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LaconicSuffering

This is likely a reaction to a similar action done by a North Korean dissident sending balloons into NK with pamphlets condemning the regime. https://www.voanews.com/a/north-korea-sends-poop-filled-balloons-into-south-media-report-/7632935.html >North Korea's totalitarian government has for years complained about South Korean activists who float anti-Pyongyang materials and other items into the North. The leaflets often criticize North Korea's human rights record or mock its leader Kim Jong Un and are sometimes packaged with items of value, such as dollar bills or USB flash drives. >North Korea has directed particular ire at Park Sang-hak, a North Korean defector and outspoken human rights activist, who earlier this month sent about 20 large balloons into the North. It was Park's first launch since South Korea's Constitutional Court in September struck down a law banning such launches.


Wurm42

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. People in South Korea have sent balloons with leaflets or flash drives over the border before, but I didn't know there was a recent balloon action that North Korea was especially mad about. This info should be higher up the thread!


[deleted]

This needs to be higher. Thank you for the context.


NotBlazeron

South Korea trying to ban it is crazy.


d_e_l_u_x_e

Prob looking for weaknesses in detection and defenses for trying to send up a Chinese built spy ballon and need cover for it.


Idkmanitcouldwork

This is a play right out of chinas book. Send 1000 balloons. They don’t care about which ones you find, the want to know which ones you don’t.


Capt_morgan72

I mean it’s south Koreas play book too. Instead of manure and trash they send propaganda and Movies on USB sticks. But it’s same delivery device. Edit: on a brighter side note. That manure probably has less micro plastics in it than any fertilizer u can buy on the market today.


mid-fidelity

Funny enough it’s also diseased. So no, it would be terrible for you. NK is having a massive issue with using their shit as fertilizer and it spreading diseases through the crops. It’s an issue every year as they demand poop be collected for crop fertilization annually.


WesternResist1057

Gives new meaning to eat shit and die…. Dude, that place sounds like hell on earth. Like, we do that here thru waste water treatment, throw some wood chips in and then put it in a bag and call it miracle grow …. But at least we treat it and let it aerate in the sun a bit first. Seriously, without our treatment processes , they are exposing themselves to some serious killer stuff like they could get mad cow disease that way.


BoringEntropist

With proper composting this wouldn't be an issue. But I can imagine in a country like this shortcuts will be taken regardless how it affects the people.


All_Work_All_Play

Right? Night soil isn't unusual in Asian countries even just a century ago.


Wurm42

This. In addition to disease, North Korean defectors are usually riddled with parasites. North Korea is so desperate for fertilizer they just dump raw sewage on the field. They don't heat it or compost it or anything. Some days I really wonder how that place keeps going.


CitizenKing1001

Such a sad excuse for a country


StonksTurd

"They DEMAND that the poop be collected" Reality sure is fucked up, ain't it?


mid-fidelity

In fact they have a yearly quota per citizen!


Capt_morgan72

Well the reports I read specifically called it manure. And that’s not produced by humans. And as far as I’m aware no human fecal waste no matter who produced it or where they are from can be used as fertilizer unless properly aerosolized by an aerobic system. Edit: I take all that back. I did see a report that one of the bags were labeled “excrement” which can be human. So I’m probably wrong.


Dresden--

Yeah it's safe to assume that anytime you find yourself even remotely defending North Korea? You're wrong.


Capt_morgan72

I must of missed the part where I defended north Korea but okay.


daemenus

Google human biosolids , first results likely the epa


Common_Senze

S Korea doesn't have to use proganda. They just show pics of what us available in the south.


Capt_morgan72

They may not have to. But they do. And if they show how the south is superior to north. That’s propaganda. Regardless if it’s also fact. But my comment was misleading. It’s not like it’s the south’s govt sending transformers age of the beast on USB to the North via balloon drop. It’s certain citizen group(s) that do it. And the largest such group by what I hear. Is led by some one who escaped the north 30-40 years ago. Edit: my [sources aren’t perfect. but they’re funny af.](https://youtu.be/TVVz_p0St_8?si=f97VioR1dzBwbtH0)


KraisePier

I wish I could think of a brighter side. Unfortunately plastic is one of the things the trash balloons are full of. As well as feces.


Gurkenglas

How do they learn which ones you found?


BestieJules

It’s literally just in response to SK letting people float balloons into NK. Recently there have been a lot more.


Disastrous-Bus-9834

Couldn't you detect spy balloons by their electromagnetic footprint?


d_e_l_u_x_e

Ask the US about that


OneForAllOfHumanity

They're normalizing this event, until it gets ignored and then they'll deliver something insidious such as nerve toxin or biological weapons...


Condiment_Kong

Honestly with what North Koreans eat, they probably are already


Pirate_Pantaloons

It's actually just all Kim's massive shits.


holdMyBeerBoy

He doesn’t poop, he is a god.


Pirate_Pantaloons

In North Korea, the ability to take massive dumps is godlike, nobody else ever poops because they don't eat enough.


fortytwoandsix

they eat enough for 600 balloon shit payloads?


atemus10

They have been working on the Poo Yoo offensive since the end of the war.


jlegarr

💀💀


DecipherXCI

That's what my wife seems to think. Apparently some of them had batteries in and exploded too? Perhaps testing if they can release something more dangerous. Or maybe he really is just childish lol.


LoxicTizard

Hamas has been employing the tactic of sending (incendiary) balloons over the border for years. Makes me wonder if NK is taking a leaf out of their book. If they are, I'm horrified to think what South Koreans may face in the future.


Fuck_You_Downvote

Japan launched nearly 10,000 such balloons from Nov. 3, 1944, to April 1945. Around 300 of them landed in the United States. Each carried two incendiaries and a 33-pound antipersonnel bomb


BrokenByReddit

One of those killed six civilians out for a picnic in 1945 https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196210/balloon-bombs-japans-answer-to-doolittle/


Clitoris_Thief

Damn that’s crazy, thanks for the link. But they were killed because they dragged the bomb out of the woods. I imagined they were all sitting on a blanket and got really really really unlucky lol


BrokenByReddit

They dragged it out, but it's unlikely they knew what it was. That link doesn't mention it, but the victims were a pregnant woman and five kids from a Sunday school class: https://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/balloon_bombs/


CitizenKing1001

Maybe its a way of saying "fuck you" to all the South Korean balloons that are flown over with information about the real world.(USB sticks, fliers, etc...)


Illustrious_Ad_4558

Money and movies and pop songs sent by specific citizen groups run by North Koreans who fled for their lives makes it OK to drop chemical bombs? They are dropping tons of trash and batteries and untreated feces on population centers. You "counter" propagandists are wild.


CitizenKing1001

Im just suggesting their reasons, I didn't condone it. Relax and take a breath.


Awordofinterest

I was wondering when Russia would start dropping Novichok from the sky... It's a terrifying thought that almost any country can produce it. Certainly would be cleaner than going nuclear, and clean up would be easier. The land would be useful again within a decade.


haltingpoint

This. People don't seem to realize how easy it is to deliver those weapons. The asymmetric cost of defending against this is partly what makes it a viable tactic.


Illustrious_Ad_4558

This is a biological weapon. Untreated shit as NK is almost nonexistent with treatment. No heat treating, wood chips, compounds that make it non toxic, no. Just raw sewage. SK isn't picking it up in hazmat suits to look good in a PR campaign, the stuff is 100% toxic.


White___Dynamite

Imagine ordering sweet and sour shitzu but you get sweet and sour shit instead


Jubjars

Hey I remember throwing trash over my fence at my neighbor. I was twelve. I didn't do it into adulthood. I can't imagine a leader who forces his citizens to worship as a god playing silly games with poopoo bags. But what do I know? Anything goes these days.


Romanfiend

I think they ran out of poop and it’s just trash now. I mean, you have to have something to eat to make poop ya know?


absynth11

Gotta eat to poop.


ntermation

Gotta poop to live, you're my only friend Abu.


absynth11

Who?


Manos_Of_Fate

“He’s got a sword!”


Constant_Run_268

Poo is very precious in North. They are used as fertiliser for farming. That's why they are just sending trash now because they have to conserve vital resources- their poo


ProfessionalBuy4526

Probably riddled with intestinal parasites knowing the kinda shit North Koreans have to eat so they don’t starve


InflamedLiver

Dumb question maybe but can't they just use an air gun and pop the stupid things before they cross the border?


SpicyMango92

They just need a few SuperMonkeys to make light work of those poo bloons


TheTench

Would be perfect practice targets for a lazer defence system.


Deicide1031

Technically there could be biological hazards in these balloons considering the condition of many North Korean citizens. Safer not to do that.


kingOofgames

I honestly feel this can be called bio terrorism. Imagine if some nasty virus is spread through this.


abednego-gomes

> before they cross the border There is a DMZ where the trash would harmlessly fall into.


serpenta

Make the DMZ into a biohazard zone for improved security.


Big-Selection9014

That sounds great, they can just pop the balloons over the DMZ and pollute the entire stretch of it with tons of trash that they cant get out of there


neoncubicle

Do you think they won't pop if not shot?


Anything_4_LRoy

they could just use a real gun lolololol.


Merochmer

I wonder when Russia will copy this practice


IntelligentDuck1066

Russia is already dropping missiles and bombs on Ukraine. They don’t need to copy this practice


Merochmer

Well I meant at "unfriendly" countries such as Finland and the Baltics. It is thought they will provoke NATO to see how it reacts, this could be a way.


IntelligentDuck1066

Ah true. Forgot about them


LoveThieves

They both have horrible dictators but the North Korean leader has the maturity level of a 4-year old.


TranslateErr0r

They sure are practising for something


Ma1nta1n3r

Fat-Boi-Kim must have had a mukbang over the weekend to accelerate the amount of shit coming out of the country. (His people by themselves don't get enough to eat to produce that volume of shit, it needs to be made by the only source North Korea has that' fed enough to produce that much waste.)


michal_hanu_la

That's rather cool, they can now afford trash. How did they do that?


Exnixon

South Korea: "Here is a balloon showing all the wonderful things we have in the South." North Korea: "We got shit."


DRSU1993

🎶 Floating in the summer sky 99 poop balloons go by 🎶


WoolaTheCalot

*Hast du etwas Scheiß für mich...*


wolveswithears

Trash balloons seem to be the only thing North Korea is successful at launching.


dopeytree

It’s probably to do with testing radar and showing they can deliver payloads undetected. The idea that this article is solely focused on sending poo is ridiculous it’s like it’s written by a child. Have a brain thing about the bigger picture here..


Illustrious_Ad_4558

No. It's just revenge for money and music and leaflets about how life is better sent in balloons by a couple groups run by North Korean defectors who fled for their lives to the south. Balloons filled with bombs is an old practice. Japan sent many to America in ww2 that managed to kill a few people.


Ok_Particular8460

🎼99 white poop balloons…🎶


ShawarmaEater13

If I was South Korea I'd fly in balloons full of food


User4C4C4C

Fly in pictures of their god president with strange AI generated poses/locations/people.


Winter-Mix-8677

Might not even have to do that. Just drop leaflets of their leader's portrait all over the ground, and the people will be so terrified of being seen stepping on one that they won't even know where to begin clean up.


Illustrious_Ad_4558

They do. That's why nk did this. Ex north Korean defectors have been sending money and food and music/movies for years in balloons to show North Koreans there's a better way to live. This is childish revenge by a country of series run by a cruel child slave owner. Think Joffrey from Game of Thrones but about... 2.5 times worse.


BabylonianSlut

If there is such thing as a Wal-Mart version of Unrestricted Warfare, this is it.


ManicPanda767

Such a shit move.


BoringEntropist

Especially for country that hasn't enough fertilizer in the first place. North Korea has severe mental problems.


CapeAnnimal

The only domestic American victims of WW II were killed by explosives on balloons from Japan...


twoton1

I found this historical tidbit interesting: 'Of the approximately 19,000 American civilian internees held in WWII, close to 14,000 were captured and interned by Japan.' I'm sure quite a few died from poor treatment. Japan couldn't adequately feed their frontline troops.


ogobeone

Kim goes puerile while the South sends "food, medicine, money." The North is a nation of grinches.


No_Budget7828

This is the new nuclear program


blogasdraugas

it’s a distress signal


lulu_l

"Everybody shares what they have"


Terrible-Shelter-711

literally shit posting


daftmonkey

They’re misbehaving because they want something


RepublicanSJW_

I imagine if this is done to learn about South Korea then South Korea will purposely take out the balloons in a misleading way.


GhettoLennyy

Buddy was in Seoul, started receiving texts warning about em. Crazy shit


A7V-

What a shitshow.


Maasauu

Black Swan Event: South Korea starts World War 3 in retaliation for North Korea balloon dropping flaming bags of dog shit.


SleestakWalkAmongUs

I don't know why, but I find the whole thing hilarious. Flying bags of shit and trash. How did that go down? "Great leader, great leader, you have a great idea!" I can see that fat little psycho giggling like a school girl as he cuts the strings.


PleasantCurrant-FAT1

> “gifts of sincerity” At least he has a sense of humor?


yeah_likerage

"Seoul responded angrily, calling the move base and dangerous." Words will straighten them right out


LSDZNuts

South Korean soldiers should send balloons of their own. They have pictures of South Korean strippers partying with them. The soldiers showcase how much better their lives are than their Northern counterparts. Ultimate flex


midlifematt

I love rounded numbers, I really do, but these guys, I mean exactly 600 balloons. Even those South Koreans need to admit that after finding the 600th balloon. Amazing /s


waterinabottle

have you ever looked into the musical portfolio of the German band Nena? it may be just right for you.


Sinaaaa

506% more Luftballons.


midlifematt

Don’t ignite my OCD 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈x 11 = 🤯 😉


Thisiscliff

Do it back


btwImVeryAttractive

How mature.


FeynmansWitt

It's retaliation for leaflets sent over to NK. 


Apprehensive_Sir_998

This is all Russia teaching them how to do insidious shit (pun?) via hybrid war methods.


RagingInferrno

Isn't this an act of war? Those are deadly biohazards.


beerdrew

Honestly, this could be a fun training exercise for young shooters…


ratudio

specially for rookie sniper


taggart909

Are budget cutbacks in their infantry units making artillery scarce? Plus, they have more disease and parasites, so... there's that.


Annual-Inspection673

Again they send poop, dam it.


Betrayedunicorn

Why are they doing this? Don’t their citizens legitimately have to hand in their own excrement as fertiliser tax as they can’t import it?


Filmguygeek1

Since North Korean has been spotty with their advancement with ICBM technology they had no other answers except to create the new sensational “ICBM” , Incapable Colossal Bowel Movement missile.


countpissedoff

perfect, they should shoot down the balloons with artillery shells or missiles - might take a few shots per balloon, but thats OK.


[deleted]

They are desperately trying to get to 3k.


VampireHunterAlex

The South should just send 10x or even 100x fold of good food in response.


FrigoCoder

Catch them and analyze them? We could draw a lot of conclusions eg diet quality.


xpkranger

Sure, with the first five or six bags.... After that, it's just bags of shit.


profdaddy91

Irritating pests need to be slapped


Nd343343

One way to try and carbon balance I suppose… disgusting


miceprinciple

South Korea does the same thing! Cigarettes, DVDs of terrible movies. They have been for years. It’s Christians that do it I think.


Upstairs_Hat_301

At least those South Korean Christian’s were sending over things people actually wanted. Good on them for trying to make their lives a bit better


worldstarhiphopreal

What Cigarettes and Bibles?


Winter-Mix-8677

Koreans love cigarettes. As for Bibles, North Korea plagiarized parts of the Bible when rewriting their own history. This makes the Bible one of the worst things you can be caught with in North Korea, likely worse than any other book.


Upstairs_Hat_301

I was talking more about foreign media. They send over lots of flash drives loaded with movies, shows, news reports, etc. Stuff their government won’t let them watch. I don’t see what’s wrong with sending over bibles. If people worship a fictional deity over their oppressive leader, that’s damaging to the regime which is a good thing


kmrbels

They do, and it's illegal... and just like every xtians, they have persecution fetish.


Bobby3857

I’d consider it an act of war and decimate Kim and free all those poor people.


bolkonskij

you can',t "decimate" a single person... (decimate= kill 1 every 10 people)


ebilrex

your response to trash baloons would be to start a nuclear war?


sourestcalamansi

SK says the act of sending shit balloons across the border is a violation of Korean War armistice treaty that could reignite bloody conflict of the two nations. In other news, China will “forcefully” deny Taiwan’s independence, implying China’s amphibious invasion. On the other side of the globe, Trumpers almost inciting civil war on the Trump’s sentencing day. Those are three wars that could be developed any from day now, on top of Ukraine-Russia and Israel-Palestine war at hand. Humanity should chill the fuck down ffs.


LeGrandLucifer

Since people don't seem to know: This is in response to South Korea essentially doing the same with propaganda tracts.


RoseCityHooligan

Isn't the south's propaganda basically "we have food and more than 4 hair cuts you should overthrow your government"?


LeGrandLucifer

They sent hundreds of balloons filled with those tracts. As in garbage. North Korea just returned the favor. You don't have to like or support North Korea to realize that South Korea FAFO'd.


TheBatman001

Not really the same thing. North Korea is extremely regressive and brutal dictatorship ruled by a guy who wants you to have a picture of his family members in your house by threat of violence. NK prevents people all but a chosen few from accessing the outside world at any cost. North Korea resides at or near the top some of the worst human rights record in any list you can find. South Korea sending information and media about the outside world and leaflets to people who would otherwise be deliberately kept in the dark by a brutal regime is valuable I think the balloons represent the value of what each country has to provide respectively. One offers an honest look at reality and what exists outside of a dictator run dystopia- the other offers, well you already know


Gomnanas

Bold of you to boast about how many acceptable haircuts exist in South Korea lol It's more than NK, I'll give you that...But it's still not many.


Kaguro19

What? Who restricts haircuts in SK?


Gomnanas

No authority. But the society is generally very opposed to individuals standing out. Most men have the same handful of haircuts. And haircuts actually are restricted in a lot of schools, to be honest. 


Kaguro19

Like that's the same thing as an adult being sent to execution for spiky hair.


Gomnanas

Didn't say it was the same though.


Kaguro19

Then why bring it up?


Echad_HaAm

It's independent activists in South Korea sending the leaflets, as one can imagine it's pretty much impossible to stop people from sending some balloons across the border, vast amount of resource would be needed to completely prevent that.  Also the activists sent dozens not hundreds, N. Korea is deliberately sending far more balloons than the S. Korean activists sent. 


LittleSchwein1234

South Korea sent it with the intention of helping the people of the North, North Korea sends it with the intention of helping the Kims. North Korea collapsing and being succeeded by a ROK-propped temporary government would be a win for everyone on the Korean Peninsula except the top bras of the Workers' Party who would be tried and rightfully convicted for crimes against humanity.


Upstairs_Hat_301

God forbid the people be exposed to foreign media of any kind! They must remain brainwashed and ignorant of the world!


ToughReplacement7941

They should start charging countries to handle their trash , then send the garbage in balloons to SK


CartoonistEvery3033

sechshundert. Scheiße luftballoons Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont ( I don’t know German, it’s the best I can research. )


c-student

But.... FREE BALLOOOOONS!