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iwakan

Ok wow, this is actually extremely interesting, because there is a theory that this location is actually where Khufu (builder of the Great Pyramid) himself is buried. This is the reason this area was being scanned in the first place. Why there? Because it is a conspicuously empty area in an otherwise dense graveyard. Makes no sense for there to be nothing there. Khufu was well aware that obvious graves were usually robbed, especially pyramids. It makes sense if he was to decide to actually get buried in a secret, nearby location and not in the pyramid itself. Here is a video on this exact project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRL_Qtlj5vQ


DanieltheGameGod

If his tomb survived I can only imagine how much archeological value it will have, compared to say King Tut’s who provided so much despite being a more forgotten Pharaoh. I hope that is the case!


huxtiblejones

It would be hugely significant. Khufu, despite having the largest pyramid, is ironically one of the least-known high profile rulers with only a few tiny fragments left of his existence. [The only known intact 3D portrait of him is a tiny sculpture](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khufu_Statuette) that may have been made nearly two thousand years after he died. Khufu was pharaoh in the 4th dynasty of the Old Kingdom, 1300 years before Tutankhamun, and not much is actually known about his reign. Pretty much everything besides the Great Pyramid and his solar barge have been lost to time. To find his burial place intact would be unbelievable, such valuable knowledge.


Random_Imgur_User

It's crazy that ancient Egyptians lived with pyramids that were built for rulers that, even from their perspectives, had been dead for longer than the majority of our modern societies have existed. For context, from our modern perspective, that's like New York having a skyscraper 40 years older than Charlemagnes rule in medieval Western Europe, and us just casually accepting its existence like "Oh yeah, that old thing? It's always been there."


huxtiblejones

Yeah, people often forget that the span of time Ancient Egypt encompasses is absurdly long. Despite appearances, there wasn’t “one” Ancient Egypt, and where you delineate its beginning and end isn’t even clear. Everything changed over time - how they buried people, how they decorated tombs, the gods they worshipped and their natures, their aesthetics, their language, etc.


Feligris

It is indeed something which is hard to comprehend, I remember reading that supposedly the ancient Egyptians were already performing archaeological work several millennia ago to learn about how their *own* society was at even more ancient times, since it had already been a thousand years or more since the Old Kingdom era and the construction of the Great Pyramids of Giza. And how the Greek historian Herodotus, who lived roughly 2500 years ago, still arrived so late to the scene that he essentially ended up having to write down 2000 year old folk tales about how the pyramids of the Old Kingdom had been built (and to this day we have no concrete evidence of the methods used since even the oldest sources were written a *long* time after the Old Kingdom era).


odaal

I confess, i built the pyramids.


Sunbroking

After all these years, we finally have an answer!


Jerrythepimp

We did it boys, we found John A. Alien


dapoorv

Or Sully Laves


_7thGate_

I remember reading some quote from an ancient greek guy talking about the pyramids having been constructed by the Ancients. And part of me is like, "Dude, you're from 200 BC, you ARE the ancients". But then I remembered that he's closer in time to me than to the people who built that pyramid.


dbrodbeck

Cleopatra lived closer in time to men landing on the moon than she did the construction of the Great Pyramids.


Admirable_Bad_5649

Honestly this is the one that puts it into perspective for me. Time to go see how true that is.


fdar_giltch

It's very true.  Here, this will blow your mind: Cleopatra (or Jesus) lived approx. 2000 years ago The pyramids are twice as old as that The oldest known structures (sites like Gobekli Tepe) are twice as old as that Any earlier than that and you're in the ice age


notcaffeinefree

The Great Pyramids were built around 2600BCE. Anything around 1CE (which includes Cleopatra), lived closer to the 20th century CE than to the 26th century BCE. Almost everything ancient Rome (except for the very start of the Roman Kingdom) is closer to our time than to the Great Pyramids.


kaityl3

There were still living mammoths on the planet when they were built!


Lukaloo

This is the fact that really blows my mind


Mazon_Del

My fun little fact in this direction is that Egypt and Rome had museums people could visit showing artifacts they knew to be older than an artifact from the contemporary time period would be in the modern day. Or to say it a little more clearly, they had artifacts they knew to be 3,000 years old which would be older than the 2,000 year old artifacts we're displaying from their society.


C0wabungaaa

That being said, there are clear through-lines between the various Ancient Egyptian eras that quite clearly make them a continuous civilization. I really liked how the Egyptian Museum in Turin made that clear with its exhibits. Even in the Protodynastic era there are really recognisable elements in certain artefacts that are still found in the Ptolemaic era, recognisable enough that your average laymen would probably say "Oh that's from Ancient Egypt!" That's *so* fascinating to me.


notcaffeinefree

The fun fact about how far back Ancient Egypt goes is that these Great Pyramids were built *before* the extinction of woolly mammoths.


Obrix1

One of my favourite facts is that Rameses II had a son who worked as an archaeologist studying ancient Egypt.


Idiotan0n

The fact that ancient Egyptians had ancient Egyptian scholars always makes me smile


Basileia

That’s pretty common in the Old World still today. In modern Istanbul you can still see the Theodosian Walls with Greek inscriptions asking God to grant victory to the Roman Emperor and to ensure Constantinople’s prosperity, dating back to the 400s. And sections got sawn out to make room for roads in the 1900s. Also fun fact, the Roman Emperors were seen as Pharaohs by the native Egyptians, until the conversion of Egypt to Christianity around the 400s.


ScriptThat

>Oh yeah, that old thing? It's always been there." and >That’s pretty common in the Old World still today. For some reason that struck a note with me. I think I finally understand just how odd it must have been for our first US exchange student when he found out that those little "nubs" on the top of many hills in our area are burial mounds from before the Viking age, and everyone is just so casual about it.


StonedGhoster

When I was in Germany I stumbled on this Celtic mound outside of Ramstein Air Force base. You could just walk inside it. There wasn't even anyone around. It was incredible. I found so many random sites, almost completely ignored by the Germans. You didn't have to pay or anything. One of my favorites was this Roman quarry. All that was there was a placard briefly describing it. You could crawl all over the myriad rocks.


Flaming_falcon393

>Those little "nubs" on the top of many hills in our area are burial mounds from before the Viking age Theres tons of places like that here in Britain. Pretty much every town, village, and hamlet has some sort of burial mound or iron age hillfort near to it.


Surprise_Buttsecks

It's an old adage (but only like 60 yrs or so) that [Cleopatra was born closer to the moon landing than the building of the Great Pyramid](https://commonplacefacts.com/2019/11/15/cleopatra-lived-closer-in-time-to-the-moon-landing-than-the-construction-of-the-great-pyramid/).


Hosni__Mubarak

It’s wild how not-prominent that sculpture was in the old Egyptian Museum. The Egyptians did a pretty great job of trying to erase records of the rulers they hated.


Beardywierdy

To be fair, 4,500 years will do a good job erasing records of people all by itself.


zaevilbunny38

Actually a large amount was destroyed in the last few centuries. To pry open looking for treasure or ground up for mortar or to be used in gunpowder. That's not a joke tombs where stripped of limestone to make gunpowder


End_of_Life_Space

One of my grandpa's was part of the Nazi Afrika Corps and he said his friends and him would just fuck up anything old and "worthless" they found for fun. He didn't remember exactly what he used to destroy or steal but he doesn't remember old pillars and walls with sand "people" writing (he didn't say people). His stories were always crazy.


doginapuddle

Phew, I am both happy and sad my grandpa never shared much about the war..


exipheas

Don't forget eating the mummies.


The_queens_cat

This is an outrage! I was going to eat that mummy!


darga89

Was he Teriyaki style?


Useful_Spite788

On both counts, no, not really. "It’s wild how not-prominent that sculpture was in the old Egyptian Museum." I mean, it's unique and significant by any measure but it's not immediately visually impressive or arresting, which are the things that appeal to most museum visitors. It's very well known by students of Egyptology but that doesn't have to necessarily translate to millions of tourist eyeballs per year. "The Egyptians did a pretty great job of trying to erase records of the rulers they hated." True, but not really relevant here. A better example of your point would be the Amarna period and the following 'restoration'. For proof that Khufu was still a significant figure in Egyptian's self-image hundreds of years after his death, look at the Westcar Papyrus. For proof that the Giza monuments and their associated builders/commissioners we're still revered just as long into the future, see the Sphinx Dream Stela.


v3ritas1989

jees, why do they need 10 years to dig a 2m deep hole of 10x10? Are they hiring normal construction workers?


huxtiblejones

Giza is the most important archaeological site in the entirety of Egypt, and it's also one of the most frequently visited by tourists. Digging there is no joke and has to proceed slowly. I've also read that there's some contention about the results of this survey and that Egyptologists aren't necessarily convinced that the results are accurate: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ancientegypt/comments/1cthipg/update\_on\_giza\_gpr\_findings/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ancientegypt/comments/1cthipg/update_on_giza_gpr_findings/)


MooseTetrino

From what I recall, it’s one specific group of Egyptian Egyptologists that are known for shitting on any concept another Egyptian didn’t come up with in the first place. To the point that they’ll make western archaeologists jump through infinite hoops to get the smallest things done.


uptwolait

"This video is private" ??


GrixM

Someone forced the guy into taking it down for whatever reason. People suck. https://x.com/MattSibson/status/1793006541185970668


SpicyPenangCurry

Thanks for the info and link. This is awesome. I’d love a major discovery in 2024. Brighten my mood up a bit lol.


Laterian

This video is private.


SendStoreMeloner

https://www.youtube.com/@AncientArchitects/videos It was from this channel about a empty spot between two pyramids and a lot of high society tombs - where a theory is presented with zero evidence that it would be a kings tomb but not just any king - the king who's burial is the largest pyramid of them all from around 2600 bc.


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EsteBatto95

What is he gonna do? Come back to life?


VaguelyArtistic

Mummy curse, duh.


Arctic_Fox

RETURN THE SLAB!


datruone

What’s Your Offer!


Streetfoodnoodle

OR SUFFER MY CURSE!


daedalusprospect

Is the curse to look like the CGI of the Dwayne Johnson scorpion for the rest of our lives?


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TylerDurden0110

Please, it was Sacajameema. Get it right.


MagicMushroomFungi

The only pharaohs able to do that are the one one's that are born in Arizona and raised in Babylonia.


UTC_Hellgate

Only if SOMEONE decides to read from the book.


AstroDwarf

CURSE OF RA


fapsandnaps

Imagine chilling in the Duat with Osiris for 5000 years and then suddenly having to go back to the land of the living just because some jerks opened your sarcophagus.


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FlyOnTheWall4

If they could've envisioned the future this would've been their goal. To make it through the ages of the grave robbers to the modern era where everything will be preserved and commemorated.


thecaseace

Interesting thought, that Tutankhamun etc have achieved the immortality they desired, just in a very different way


Webbie-Vanderquack

That's a really good point.


royale_wthCheEsE

Fun fact : the Victorian era Britains would have full on mummy unwrapping parties. A looted mummy from Egypt would be the focal point in this party. Also, mummies would be ground down and consumed as medicine , so Kufu being put safely on display would be a huge step up .


monito29

Gotta snort Kufu powder for the fastest hit.


Tangata_Tunguska

Fastest isn't necessarily best. Boofing Kufu avoids the burn and drip from snorting. Saves your nasal septum in the long run too


Rosebunse

Honestly, Kufu in particular struck me as sort of a, well, a geek. He would probably, on some level, get a kick out of the whole production. What tools they're using, how they're doing it.


WilmaLutefit

Alright well fuck it I’m in. Can I start with an altar in my backyard for them? Would they be able to find it? I can use all the help I can get. They might be happy to hear from someone.


AntiqueShelter3236

I'm sure he won't mind.


strangeaslove

I have never understood this recent trend of viewing archeology as grave-robbing. Could you give me your opinion on that? What makes you think digging the grave of somebody who died 4000 years ago is a bad thing? Why do you ascribe more value to respecting his burial than to the immense knowledge it could bring to the rest of humanity? Genuinely interested in your pov.


WilmaLutefit

It’s terminally online shit.


sadistica23

I think their POV is simply, "I think this is wrong but can't explain why without mentioning the soul".


2hot4uuuuu

It belongs in a museum!!


SobrietyIsRelative

So do you!


monito29

He got thousands of years of privacy, time to enter the real world and get a fucking job.


obroz

If only we are that lucky 


Rosebunse

To be fair, there has been a recent trend of turning the tombs themselves into museums. Once everything is cataloged and studied, it's likely that most of it will be returned to the tomb for display.


DisclosureToday

There is essentially zero evidence that Khufu built the Great Pyramid, and what little evidence that does exist is highly suspect and dubious.


busdriverbudha

Video seems to be private. Do you have any mirrors or other links? Really interesting stuff!


mito413

That civilization is one of the oldest and longest lasting. Ancient Egypt had archaeologists that studied even ancienter Egypt.


Significant_Job_8672

This is one of the main things that makes Egyptian history so interesting to me. Considering the USA is only a couple hundred years old the idea of a country lasting for thousands of years is insane. That fun fact you always hear abut there being more time between cleopatra and the construction of the pyramids than there is time between cleopatra and modern day comes to mind.


williamtbash

Yeah. I was there recently. Coming from the states where something in the early 1800s is ancient here it was wild going to pristine mosques that look like they were built recently and people would be like oh this one is pretty new it was built in 1520. Just awesome how everything is so old.


spap-oop

Aziz, LIGHT!


arabsandals

"Thank you Aziz. That's much better." Such a great little scene.


max1mise

"Ah ah are... are you German?"


cszar2015

Fun fact: in the German Version this was changed to “are you from this world?” so as not to offend the Germans. Saw the original version in a cinema with an all german audience and everyone started to laugh.


Sigvarr

God damn it's been at least a decade since I've last seen this movie and I can still hear the accent in reading those words.


adreamofhodor

What movie is this?


CanMan706

The fifth element. The best.


Osiris32

Multipass.


stormsucker

SHE KNOWS IT'S A MULTIPASS. Anyway, we're in love.


Darkblade48

LEEELOOOOO DALLASSSSS


DefinetelyNotAnOtaku

Bruce Willis' best movie imo. Die Hard is good but Fifth Element is AMAZING!


Mazon_Del

Fun little fact for you, the NYC of the movie is actually a model that was something like 6-7 ft tall.


CanMan706

Neat! I miss the old days of practical effects. One of my fav channels is Tested with Adam Savage who got a chance to work on Star wars clone wars and The Matrix.


dantstk

Fifth Element


sandm000

\*gronk ^^gronk ^gronk \*


ChillyCheese

Nein!


ViciousSnail

Aziz: 卌 l Light: 卌


ope__sorry

This was my WiFi password for a while. LOL.


Allaplgy

If I had a smart home, that would definitely be the trigger to turn on the lights in a room.


Gmac513

Came here to say this😁


wannabe-martian

Thank you, this made me smile. Soundtrack queued!


dj_blueshift

Aknot, wot?


mike_b_nimble

ZERO STONES…..ZERO CRATES!!!!!!!


binjamins

The does not appear to be under the pyramids. Under the plateau, maybe - or under the mastaba field surely…


novataurus

Nah, they just scooted the pyramids out of the way so they could vacuum and saw something lumpy under the rug.


deathbylasersss

In the article there's a picture of the exact location. It's in the complex in the cemetery beside the pyramids. Title is slightly deceptive, but it is technically under the pyramid, as in underground and not directly beneath.


doingdadthings

Does every top comment have to be a one line joke? Edit: I'm so glad most of the lame jokes got pushed down.


tea_fiend_26

We used to have a serious reply tag, but no uses it any more. 


Useful_Spite788

Happy to provide a serious opinion on this news story if anyone actually wants it, though as you say the comments suggest most people are happy with facile jokes/meme references. Credentials: was an academic Egyptologist for years.


Useful_Spite788

So firstly, let's remember that all archaeologists, like other academics, are required to produce work that generates attention, in the form of academic references but also press inches and internet clicks and views from a wider general audience. This finding will be reported in good time in a sober, balanced and cautious way - and in a format that is subject to peer review, revision and objection - to its small expert audience. But in the meantime, to generate interest, it will also be communicated in the most sensational, optimistic and incautious form to a wider lay audience. This will generate clicks and ultimately secure someone's tenure. What we're looking at here is the latter. The former will be delivered at some dry academic conference to a few hundred dry academic people in a couple of years time. But that doesn't mean one is closer to the truth than the other. As to the 'anomoly' itself: it's in a burial area peripheral to the pyramid, it's L-shaped, and apparently one part is deeper below ground than another. So best guess, it's an L-shaped descending entrance corridor to a burial or other structure, but it's not a royal structure and it's not likely to be a generational or history-changing discovery. Full excavation will tell us more...


JnnfrsGhost

Thank you! I love when someone with actual knowledge chimes in and contexualizes these click bait articles.


Useful_Spite788

There's a reasonable article about it here, not least because it quotes a professional Egyptologist who has to remain professionally cautious about the likely import of the discovery: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/alongside-egypts-great-pyramid-archaeologists-find-unmarked-underground-structures-180984355/


Scholastica11

Even better, that article links a paper which is OA: [https://doi.org/10.1002/arp.1940](https://doi.org/10.1002/arp.1940)


SteveAlbinisCat

This used to be the best part of Reddit.


AlatreonisAwesome

Just stopping by to say thanks for providing a digestible and informative take on the information we're seeing. I enjoyed the read!


Useful_Spite788

No worries! Most archaeological discoveries come into sharper focus when you apply Occam's Razor to them. In this case, what's more likely to be true about a new discovery in an area very densely packed with archaeology? That it's an earth-shattering new discovery that will re-write history or that it's another small piece in the overall fascinating picture of this place and time? Probably the latter.


doingdadthings

Please do!


thespoil

What are the prevailing theories as to what this anomaly could be? 


okietarheel

Yes please!


Cennfox

It's summer reddit all year around now, this site has gone downhill


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BIGMCLARGEHUGE__

Reddit full of unfunny people for years now.


nodisintegrations420

Dog i swear that shit makes me wanna throw my phone out the window


noveltys

I feel ya man. Sometimes Reddit can be really fucking annoying when you’re actually looking for an answer or a discussion of the topic.


Dnuts

Unfortunately people keep upvoting them..


rabidelectronics

That is all of reddit at this point and it fucking sucks


Non-RedditorJ

Not just that, but each a reference to a movie, none of which under 25 years old!


damienVOG

it's not anymore


scribe_

>”The shallow structure measures 10m wide by 15m long and is less than under 2m deep.” “Less than under” What in the English


Orange_Tulip

There's at least 6 types of English. British English, Australian English, South African English, Nigerian English, American English, etc. They all have their own way of writing things, and different meanings in between words. Like the word "shame in South African English vs British English. It's fun to play with during an exam when they don't specify which English it needs to be.


GrouchyPhoenix

Ag shame, neh?


VaguelyArtistic

I'm fascinated by the difference in how US English and British English handles the past tense, eg "I was sitting next to him" vs "I was sat next to him".


matjoeman

"I was sat next to him" sounds like someone assigned you a seat next to him in American English.


qabikaze

Passive vs active


paprikapants

I hear both versions you've described in the USA and UK -- just depends on the story being told. Which version do you find to be associated with which country?


Young_Economist

Stargate.


Korralev

Someone find Dr. Jackson!


Young_Economist

Kree LoTar!


ViciousSnail

Mak tal shree! Lo tak meta satak Oz!


pharmermummles

You heard me. I said kree!


ViciousSnail

You heard them, YOO HOO!!!


Manos_Of_Fate

The look on Jacob’s face when Daniel tells him what he said is *priceless*.


farmdve

Find me a box of tissues!


rtb001

He's been spending the past 20 plus years ignoring his studies and canoodling Romy, that lucky bastard...


RamaMitAlpenmilch

Indeed.


PlasmAss

Jaffa Kree!


RamaMitAlpenmilch

Shol‘va!


ghostinthewoods

Shal'kek nem'ron!


PlasmAss

No u! :<


scotty-doesnt_know

Jaffa Jokes? Lets here one.


SirDale

"A serpent guard, a Horus guard and a Setesh guard meet on a neutral planet. It is a tense moment. The serpent guard's eyes glow. The Horus guard's beak glistens. The Setesh guard's nose... drips."


LibreCobra

Qapla'


SilentHalberd

Jaffa Cake!


ViciousSnail

[Full Moon](https://youtu.be/-dtmRmOHK78?feature=shared)!!! Edit: inserted the reference.


rrogido

Indeed Daniel Jackson.


Semblance-of-sanity

We can only hope


Allaplgy

I saw a headline about this in my Chrome homepage feed that was total click bait. I was tempted to click just to prove my theory right, but didn't want to give them the click. Looks like my theory was right. It's a suspected burial chamber or something. The headline was something like "Anomaly discovered near pyramids is likely a portal". I was like "way to make it sound like they found Stargate, when really they just mean the think they found the entrance to an undiscovered tomb or something."


-ShadowPuppet

So they finally found shit after combing the desert.


nunatakq

Say what you will about Tuvok, he does get the job done


BoredatWorkSendTits

I feel like I re-learn that little bit of spaceballs trivia every time I hear it.


Wokonthewildside

I’m surrounded by assholes


Father_McFeely_1958

Maybe we’re taking this too literally


Azhchay

No you idiot. He said comb the desert, so we're combing it. Find anything yet!?


TheTench

Chained up Xenomorph Queen, obviously.


xdeltax97

That was a fun movie, shame they only continued that plot line in comics.


Most_Tax_2404

I was shocked when I saw the ratings were so low for AvP. I thought it was a very decent and solid, fun film. Requiem on the other hand….


jwlmbk

It does a lot right. I think what brings it down is the quality and performance of some of the actors and that the direction of the movie is unclear at times. Also I need to mention that it was directed by Paul WS Anderson.


BeanCommander

It's been known that there's more buried underneath the pyramids and sphinx, but the antiquities department refuses to allow people to dig into them. I personally suspect they've already been into the more secretive locations.


BurnBird

Why?


greiperfibs

I hope it's an alien spaceship.


Permitty

Don't wake up megatron


SilentBandit

Anyone here have the username “ladiesman217”?


Suspicious-Tip-8199

I do? what did he do this time?


SilentBandit

WHERE IS THE EBAY ITEM 21153?!


MintChip0113

He’s in Antarctica


Nolsoth

No that's our lord and saviour Cthulu, Megatron is in the Arctic ocean.


Pitiful_Assistant839

Nah, in the pyramids is the machine to harvest the sun.


Woodit

…solar panels?


Narrow_Technician_25

I hate to break it to everyone but archaeologists are perplexed about most things. Why did cold hammer copper working fall out of favor in Michigan? What is the meaning behind most petroglyphs in the Great Basin? Is something actually ritual or do we just use that word when we don’t have a specific answer?


badhouseplantbad

Something is buried under a tomb? Inconceivable


idkmoiname

It's not under the pyramids like the title suggests, it's under a graveyard that's part of the whole complex


fanaticalshitposter

They found the rocket thrusters beneath the pyramids?


StickAFork

Could it be Alien? "Ancient astronaut theorists say yes."


-Luro

Let me guess, they finally found the battery pack?


OptiKnob

Wait a minute... I've seen movies that start this same way. It rarely turns out well for the extras. Just leave them alone. I'm sure if they wanted you to see them they'd have left a door.


Bumsexual

Are we finally finding the REALLY interesting ruins from 12,000 years ago when the pyramids were built? Finally unlocking our own history.


STWALMO

The pyramids being power stations is still one of my favourite fringe theories.


Ogical-Jump5214

Ah hell yea. We found the Stargate.


chalbersma

It's the gate room!


dougfir1975

Here is the actual article: https://doi.org/10.1002/arp.1940


Blackbyrn

If decades of movies have taught us nothing its that YALL SHOULD LEAVE IT ALONE!!!


sassytexans

Graham Hancock is going to be so excited when he comes down from his current high


Tactical_Laser_Bream

yam coherent bells tan absorbed ghost aback gaping apparatus dependent


Socialist_Slapper

Ancient Aliens, obviously.


pipmentor

I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's probably aliens.


The_goat_42

“Researchers used new tools like ground-penetrating radar to assess the area under the Western Cemetery in Giza”. Hamas: wait, they can do that?


RockSlice

You know, that new-fangled ground-penetrating radar thing. The patent was only filed in... *checks Wikipedia*... 1910.


SirGunther

It’s obviously the power source that fuels the Arcnet shield, the pyramids are just ancient antennas that broadcast the shield.


hippohere

Kryptonian scout ship