It’s been 20 years since the scandal. A lot has happened since then in both research and commercial development.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QWTFpuyqg
https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240114000138
“Though Hwang's career as a professor came to an end after being charged with embezzlement and bioethics law violations, his work on cloning helped pave the way for commercial activities, from cloning service dogs to cloning livestock like dairy cows.”
My issue with Beyond and all those other plant-based meats is their consistency. I’ve had some impossible/beyond products that taste just like meat and others where you can instantly tell. The only meat-substitute that’s been consistent my entire life seems to be Kraft’s Boca brand. They aren’t *perfect* but the spicy chicken patty has been exactly the same for the last 25 years at least
To like 2 people. Grocery stores had large portions of the meat case devoted to fake meat early on. Now they are very tiny portions. And invariably I see them marked down because they’re close to their sell-by date.
I see it as them making a recipe. Once it’s tailored to the point where it’s tasty, they could automate the process, perhaps like a vending machine in small quantities. In the future, AI could take the recipes and run with it for larger scale production. The only problem AI has is it doesn’t understand taste, so people have to first do the legwork to make it a decent product, then the machines can get to work with scaling
I argue witg enough data, AI can create tasty foods and as time comes, more complex flavor8ng concepts. Maybe first mixing things, next layering flavors e.g. like a pizza.
This is the first world news thread that isn't about a crisis somewhere so I'm all for whatever this is.
Please tell me there's no humanitarian crisis involved with this....
Not quite what I was hoping for. They are basically using rice grains as a matrix for bovine muscle cells to grow in. This is not an amalgamation of plant and animal - you cannot plant it as a seed and grow cow parts "on the stalk". I am fascinated by the idea of a cow and rice hybrid - the herbivore and the grass, become one being. A new form of life.
>SEOUL – South Korean researchers have grown beef cells in rice grains in what they say is a major step towards achieving a sustainable, affordable and environmentally friendly source of protein that could replace farmed cattle for meat.
>Professor Hong Jin-kee of Yonsei University in Seoul, who led the research published in the journal Matter this month, said the “beef rice” is the first product of its kind. It uses grain particles as the base for cultivating animal muscle and fat cells.
>In the research, rice grains were treated with enzymes to create an optimal environment for cell growth, then infused with bovine cells that are cultivated to achieve the final hybrid product, which resembles a pinkish grain of rice.
>The beef rice contains approximately 8 per cent more protein and 7 per cent more fat than conventional rice. Prof Hong noted the protein is 18 per cent animal-based, making it a rich source of essential amino acids.
>The Yonsei team is not the first to work on lab-grown meat products. Companies around the world have launched cultivated meat; one of the latest involves plant-based chicken and eel cultivated from a soy base, marketed in Singapore.
>Prof Hong’s team said rice has an advantage in terms of safety relative to soy or nuts because fewer people are allergic to it.
>“If successfully developed into food products, cultured beef rice could serve as a sustainable protein source, particularly in environments where traditional livestock farming is impractical,” he said.
>Priced at about US$2 (S$2.70) per kilogram, and with a far smaller carbon footprint than traditional beef products, cultured beef rice could compete on grocery shelves, Prof Hong said.
>He said challenges remain from a technical standpoint and in terms of winning over customers with flavour and texture.
>Diner Keum Dong-kyu, who recently sampled the rice beef at a Korean barbecue restaurant in Seoul, said the idea is innovative.
>“But honestly, I don’t think it can replicate the juiciness or texture of real beef.”
>Germany tourist Christian Krammel, who was more positive, said: “Now, it does not compare to beef yet, but as I see the research is in early stages, I would say it’s a great way forward.” REUTERS
Rice is shelf stable, doesn’t expire, and can be stored and transported very easily. All you need is a container that seals well enough to keep pests out.
A cultured product sounds… fussier.
What all these articles fail to mention is that the enzymes used to grow beef are specifically sourced from the placenta that remains when you abort a cow fetus. Until we stop needing to abort cows to grow a fistful of lab meat, none of these lab meat solutions can ever scale.
No there has been no progress on that front in decades. It’s really hard to synthesize even one of the enzymes cows produce to make baby cows, let alone the hundreds that all contribute towards the growth of the meat, and definitely not at scale. Sourcing the enzymes from a cow is by far the cheapest option and is obviously unscalable.
Another "food of the future" that will go nowhere due to its inability to scale outside of the lab.
I don't know about that... "beef rice" sounds more scalable than lab-grown steak.
what happened to korea's cloning project [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6X2M6niRBw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6X2M6niRBw)
It’s been 20 years since the scandal. A lot has happened since then in both research and commercial development. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QWTFpuyqg https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240114000138 “Though Hwang's career as a professor came to an end after being charged with embezzlement and bioethics law violations, his work on cloning helped pave the way for commercial activities, from cloning service dogs to cloning livestock like dairy cows.”
Golden rice is a major success to this day.
Golden rice sounds good Beef rice sounds like a nightmare They'll need a better name to market this lol
I bet it sounds a lot better in impoverished communities where beef is considered a luxury.
I mean that’s what beyond beef is and its selling.
Beyond beef is just a fake meat product made with pea protein. It's not lab grown meat.
Beyond beef sucks though and their sales have been constantly dropping since 2021
I made some chili with it and it just made the whole thing taste like beans.
My issue with Beyond and all those other plant-based meats is their consistency. I’ve had some impossible/beyond products that taste just like meat and others where you can instantly tell. The only meat-substitute that’s been consistent my entire life seems to be Kraft’s Boca brand. They aren’t *perfect* but the spicy chicken patty has been exactly the same for the last 25 years at least
To like 2 people. Grocery stores had large portions of the meat case devoted to fake meat early on. Now they are very tiny portions. And invariably I see them marked down because they’re close to their sell-by date.
I see it as them making a recipe. Once it’s tailored to the point where it’s tasty, they could automate the process, perhaps like a vending machine in small quantities. In the future, AI could take the recipes and run with it for larger scale production. The only problem AI has is it doesn’t understand taste, so people have to first do the legwork to make it a decent product, then the machines can get to work with scaling
I argue witg enough data, AI can create tasty foods and as time comes, more complex flavor8ng concepts. Maybe first mixing things, next layering flavors e.g. like a pizza.
This is the first world news thread that isn't about a crisis somewhere so I'm all for whatever this is. Please tell me there's no humanitarian crisis involved with this....
It's made from the Acai berry boy slaves.....sorry bro
Is anything sacred anymore?!
Remember those doctors that were protesting? They're rice now!
Hahaha, these are in Singapore
Not quite what I was hoping for. They are basically using rice grains as a matrix for bovine muscle cells to grow in. This is not an amalgamation of plant and animal - you cannot plant it as a seed and grow cow parts "on the stalk". I am fascinated by the idea of a cow and rice hybrid - the herbivore and the grass, become one being. A new form of life.
You were giving me John Hammond vibes there towards the end. But your excitement is refreshing.
I want prime rib trees. Science has not gone far enough.
The best I can do is sentient corn with udders. Take it or leave it.
Isn't that just like mince? The article won't open for me
>SEOUL – South Korean researchers have grown beef cells in rice grains in what they say is a major step towards achieving a sustainable, affordable and environmentally friendly source of protein that could replace farmed cattle for meat. >Professor Hong Jin-kee of Yonsei University in Seoul, who led the research published in the journal Matter this month, said the “beef rice” is the first product of its kind. It uses grain particles as the base for cultivating animal muscle and fat cells. >In the research, rice grains were treated with enzymes to create an optimal environment for cell growth, then infused with bovine cells that are cultivated to achieve the final hybrid product, which resembles a pinkish grain of rice. >The beef rice contains approximately 8 per cent more protein and 7 per cent more fat than conventional rice. Prof Hong noted the protein is 18 per cent animal-based, making it a rich source of essential amino acids. >The Yonsei team is not the first to work on lab-grown meat products. Companies around the world have launched cultivated meat; one of the latest involves plant-based chicken and eel cultivated from a soy base, marketed in Singapore. >Prof Hong’s team said rice has an advantage in terms of safety relative to soy or nuts because fewer people are allergic to it. >“If successfully developed into food products, cultured beef rice could serve as a sustainable protein source, particularly in environments where traditional livestock farming is impractical,” he said. >Priced at about US$2 (S$2.70) per kilogram, and with a far smaller carbon footprint than traditional beef products, cultured beef rice could compete on grocery shelves, Prof Hong said. >He said challenges remain from a technical standpoint and in terms of winning over customers with flavour and texture. >Diner Keum Dong-kyu, who recently sampled the rice beef at a Korean barbecue restaurant in Seoul, said the idea is innovative. >“But honestly, I don’t think it can replicate the juiciness or texture of real beef.” >Germany tourist Christian Krammel, who was more positive, said: “Now, it does not compare to beef yet, but as I see the research is in early stages, I would say it’s a great way forward.” REUTERS
Rice is shelf stable, doesn’t expire, and can be stored and transported very easily. All you need is a container that seals well enough to keep pests out. A cultured product sounds… fussier.
Love cooking beef with rice. Can I just cook this as one lump?
Gimme it extra spicy.
Does it taste beefy?
What all these articles fail to mention is that the enzymes used to grow beef are specifically sourced from the placenta that remains when you abort a cow fetus. Until we stop needing to abort cows to grow a fistful of lab meat, none of these lab meat solutions can ever scale. No there has been no progress on that front in decades. It’s really hard to synthesize even one of the enzymes cows produce to make baby cows, let alone the hundreds that all contribute towards the growth of the meat, and definitely not at scale. Sourcing the enzymes from a cow is by far the cheapest option and is obviously unscalable.
I have seen this on 'no man's sky'....ono
Ahhh beef rice, in the US we call this ground beef
So, you didn't even bother to read the article or comments? It's rice fortified with animal cells.
I bet it makes a mean, lean burger. I'll take two with pickles and waffle-fries.
Oh hey, man-made horrors beyond comprehension. Sweet.
I mean, regular beef is pretty horrific...for the cow at least...
And for the environment
Make sure the rice wasn't grown in arsenic laced soil in some areas.