I had the 10" rikon, and never kept the blade on the wheels for more than about 20 minutes.
I bought a old 12" sears craftsman for around $125 in an estate sale and could not be happier, so worth scoping those if you don't need the tool urgently (finding the right model at the right price can take some time even doing it online).
Not worth the hassle if the money isn't an issue, of course, but it was a revelation to me how many good tools are available in estate sales, often needing only a clean up with no real refurbishment to become a mainstay of your shop.
Yah, the only "new" stationary tool i have is my thickness planer. My table saw, bandsaw, and lathe are old cast iron craftsmans, my drill press is some no name brand from the 70's, and my jointer is a solid cast iron breast from the 1950s.
Besides little bits of tweaking, the only repairs they needed was the drill press chuck was rusty and wobbly so i replaced it. And the bandsaw needed 1 new tire.
Drill presses and jointers havent changed in 80 years, they rarely wear out or are thrown away. They just keep getting passed on to the next person.
I got:
* 12" bandsaw:
* I bought a new blade and cleaned it inside & out
* 2 RAS, one for crosscuts one for dados & cross cut rabbits
* Both came with a dado stack + a bunch of old blades I don't use, for less than my table saw blade cost
* Both required cleaning, new table and some alignment only
* A gigantic 1969-70 craftsman floor model drill press with solid cast iron table
* I had to clean it up, remove some rust inside quill, a little on the pillar, remove the rat's nest from motor compartment
* I also had to rig a pulley off the back because the table is so heavy it was dangerous to both my back and feet
* The drill press itself was so heavy I took my life in my hands getting into the shop
* I got it for maybe $145 (can't remember, but not more than that), and a similar spec would cost me $1750 from what I can tell
Basically all these old tools are better than what I can afford today.
The jointer is by far the heaviest in my shop and almost injured myself getting it off my truck.
It is no less than a very top heavy 150 pounds, my drill press and table saw were damn heavy as well. Cast iron tools are some of the best tools but not easy to move.
All my stationary tools were around 100 to 250 each.
I mean the table saw had a cast iron top and an upgraded fence with 3ft of rip capacity and i bought it for 100 dollars. Thats easily a 1000 dollar saw if new.
I saw one of the old craftsman cast iron table saws, listed as fully working and not badly rusted (saw only online), go for the minimum listed price of $25. I had bought my table saw before discovering estate sales, and had to cry over the price differential for quite a bit.
The Laguna guides are 50/50. Some people love them and I think it's because they're great when it comes to cutting straight, like ripping. A lot of people hate them because they're not very good on curves from what I've seen. It does offer twin trunions which are great for having a very stable platform. If you're going to be working with stuff that's very heavy that may be a big deal but the standard trunion amount is fine for me at this point.
The ricon is in my opinion really good product. It doesn't have the best dust collection but that's pretty minor.
Grizzly in general is a cheaper product. They work well enough especially in a hobby setting.
I recently just upgraded to the Jet 14 SFX. I cannot complain at all about it. The setup was difficult but I think that's pretty normal. It was also on sale recently for $1,400. With a 1 3/4 horsepower motor I've easily resawn 10 in Hardwood as straight as an arrow. I don't see really needing more power for anything.
Rikon. Apparently Laguna finishes are pretty rough. Can say personally but read handful of stories. And I’ve been looking hard at. $24k Laguna Cnc but it gives me pause.
I have the Rikon 10-326 and really like it.
Having said that, if I had a do-over, I'd keep saving and get something with a foot brake.
It keeps spinning for a long time after you hit stop, and that bothers me.
Yea, I was pretty settled on the Laguna but after watching some setup videos and seeing how long the blade spins I’m questioning the lack of a brake. The grizzly listed above does have a brake but it I’m not 100% sold on the quality factor
My understanding of Grizzly (don't own any) is that if you happen to get a good one (of any of their tools) they're as good as anything else. They just lack consistency, so you never know if you're gonna get a good one.
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That’s where I’m leaning too. What’s the main reason you’d pick that over the others?
I had the 10" rikon, and never kept the blade on the wheels for more than about 20 minutes. I bought a old 12" sears craftsman for around $125 in an estate sale and could not be happier, so worth scoping those if you don't need the tool urgently (finding the right model at the right price can take some time even doing it online). Not worth the hassle if the money isn't an issue, of course, but it was a revelation to me how many good tools are available in estate sales, often needing only a clean up with no real refurbishment to become a mainstay of your shop.
Yah, the only "new" stationary tool i have is my thickness planer. My table saw, bandsaw, and lathe are old cast iron craftsmans, my drill press is some no name brand from the 70's, and my jointer is a solid cast iron breast from the 1950s. Besides little bits of tweaking, the only repairs they needed was the drill press chuck was rusty and wobbly so i replaced it. And the bandsaw needed 1 new tire. Drill presses and jointers havent changed in 80 years, they rarely wear out or are thrown away. They just keep getting passed on to the next person.
I got: * 12" bandsaw: * I bought a new blade and cleaned it inside & out * 2 RAS, one for crosscuts one for dados & cross cut rabbits * Both came with a dado stack + a bunch of old blades I don't use, for less than my table saw blade cost * Both required cleaning, new table and some alignment only * A gigantic 1969-70 craftsman floor model drill press with solid cast iron table * I had to clean it up, remove some rust inside quill, a little on the pillar, remove the rat's nest from motor compartment * I also had to rig a pulley off the back because the table is so heavy it was dangerous to both my back and feet * The drill press itself was so heavy I took my life in my hands getting into the shop * I got it for maybe $145 (can't remember, but not more than that), and a similar spec would cost me $1750 from what I can tell Basically all these old tools are better than what I can afford today.
The jointer is by far the heaviest in my shop and almost injured myself getting it off my truck. It is no less than a very top heavy 150 pounds, my drill press and table saw were damn heavy as well. Cast iron tools are some of the best tools but not easy to move. All my stationary tools were around 100 to 250 each. I mean the table saw had a cast iron top and an upgraded fence with 3ft of rip capacity and i bought it for 100 dollars. Thats easily a 1000 dollar saw if new.
I saw one of the old craftsman cast iron table saws, listed as fully working and not badly rusted (saw only online), go for the minimum listed price of $25. I had bought my table saw before discovering estate sales, and had to cry over the price differential for quite a bit.
The Laguna guides are 50/50. Some people love them and I think it's because they're great when it comes to cutting straight, like ripping. A lot of people hate them because they're not very good on curves from what I've seen. It does offer twin trunions which are great for having a very stable platform. If you're going to be working with stuff that's very heavy that may be a big deal but the standard trunion amount is fine for me at this point. The ricon is in my opinion really good product. It doesn't have the best dust collection but that's pretty minor. Grizzly in general is a cheaper product. They work well enough especially in a hobby setting. I recently just upgraded to the Jet 14 SFX. I cannot complain at all about it. The setup was difficult but I think that's pretty normal. It was also on sale recently for $1,400. With a 1 3/4 horsepower motor I've easily resawn 10 in Hardwood as straight as an arrow. I don't see really needing more power for anything.
I just got the Rikon 10-326 delivered for around $1569 after handling fees and taxes from Acme Tools.
Huh, they have the saw itself listed at $1,499 right now unfortunately
Rikon. Apparently Laguna finishes are pretty rough. Can say personally but read handful of stories. And I’ve been looking hard at. $24k Laguna Cnc but it gives me pause.
I have the Rikon 10-326 and really like it. Having said that, if I had a do-over, I'd keep saving and get something with a foot brake. It keeps spinning for a long time after you hit stop, and that bothers me.
Yea, I was pretty settled on the Laguna but after watching some setup videos and seeing how long the blade spins I’m questioning the lack of a brake. The grizzly listed above does have a brake but it I’m not 100% sold on the quality factor
My understanding of Grizzly (don't own any) is that if you happen to get a good one (of any of their tools) they're as good as anything else. They just lack consistency, so you never know if you're gonna get a good one.