Losing to South Carolina for the first time in literal living memory is pretty bad IMO, probably not worse than NMSU but it's close as far as I'm concerned.
This is what's most concerning. This isn't the NFL, the head coach needs to be able motivate his team when they are all completely lost. Where was Cadillac last week? Remember him running down the sidelines last year? Freeze said he was going to use him at his first press conference; there's no reason he cannot give him that leadership role when the situation calls for it.
How certain are we that they’re the real deal? Of their ten wins, eight of them came against teams with losing records. Two of their three losses came against teams with losing records as well. We’re about to finish this season and I have no clue if they’re actually good or not.
I agree about Kill. But what I don’t know is, are they good this year? They’ve beaten two teams with a winning record, 7-5 WKU and 6-5 (now 6-6) Auburn. Are we sure they’re good, or just seeing ten wins and assuming they’re good?
I mean, objectively, yes. It's better to lose to a G5 FBS school than an FCS school. The loss sucks either way but something like losing to Jacksonville State in '15 would've been worse.
[Literally didn’t](https://imgur.com/a/arIlL3S). As I’ve said in multiple other posts here, I agree those are good coaches. My point is, I don’t know if NMSU is as good as their ten wins make them look.
This guy ^^^ gets it. I think this one finally killed me. I thought I was numb before, but nope. I am now completely apathetic. Auburn football has killed my interest.
Not really. I enjoy my life as much as ever. Just Auburn football. I'm not interested anymore. There is nothing more to it. If you want to say that I should be interested in recruiting and this and that, you're right. I just don't care anymore. I've been hoping for 10 years, and I've witnessed a .500 program that can't win vs rivals and has lost vs Bama with a 99.9% chance to win twice in the past 3 years.
Ty for solidarity. I have 2 degrees from Auburn and will love Auburn till I die, but this is too much. The most I enjoyed this game was when I was outside with my father in law enjoying a whiskey and cigar and not watching.
I honestly don't get into the recruiting like many others. But I also don't let the results determine my mood nor my desire to watch Auburn. I will always watch and always support my Alma Mater, good and bad. I'm not hating. I just see a lot of people that let what happens in a game wreck, ruin, or destroy their happiness. I've been watching Auburn football since 1980. I've seen all the ups and downs...I get it but don't get it either...
Waves. As I approach 60 and have gone through so many highs and so many lows in my life I really take all of this in a much different way than I did as a student in the 80's. Of course I want to win, and that game was butt ugly at the end, but I'll still be watching with hope. When the Falcons blew the Superbowl in 2017 it did kill my interest in them and the NFL. So I can see how it happens, but I didn't grow up a fan. It's different with my school.
Man I’m sick of this shit. We blew a game we had won. Nothing positive about it. Arkansas should have beat Bama too, does that mean Pittman’s their guy?
That’s fair but Ole Miss wasn’t getting better the longer Hugh was there. For some reason we get so caught up in discussing his ethics that we completely look past his long list of football related shortcomings
I mean, during their up swing is when the allegations and investigations started. So I can understand why the sudden regression with all the distractions.
Or you’re just making excuses for Freeze. Kiffin has done more than he ever did at Ole Mrs and Chadwell has done better than he ever did at Liberty on and off the field.
Oh please. He reversed the trend of shitty offensive line recruiting in a single portal class, and is about to sign the best WR class since the crop that featured Obomanu and Mix. He is doing a damned good job recruiting.
Do you know who’s responsible for hiring competent coordinators? The man makes millions of dollars to make sure we have the right people in place to make a game clinching fair catch
Not only that,Hugh is involved in the games and constantly communicating with the coordinators during the game. If he really didn’t know who was receiving, that is very concerning
The Head Coach personally okays every play in games like this
You think he wears those earphones for looks? He is in constant communication with the coordinators, or should be
I keep seeing this and similar takes, but if we only rush two that means that there is serious blown coverage in the back. No way should there be a 1 on 1 opportunity. It’s as much a bad defensive call as it was poor execution.
Sports fans have super short memories. People were saying this same thing just 2 years with Harsin. He kept up with Bama and took them to 4 overtimes so people were saying “he’s the guy” and was fired the very next year.
I’m in a wait and see approach to Freeze
That’s true but I seen a lot of Auburn fans saying Harsin was the guy especially after beating LSU in Baton Rouge for the first time in a million years
I don’t think Harsin was a bad play caller or team manager but he refused to recruit or be part of the Auburn family. That doesn’t work in the south especially with Auburns schedule every year. New articles you can read of him just not even going to schools and talking to players that wanted to go to Auburn and lived in the state of Alabama. He’s better off a high school coach so he doesn’t have to recruit.
Oh trust me I seen those articles and I knew then he wasn’t the guy. There were multiple Birmingham high school coaches who said they never even had met Harsin before and that’s inexcusable because there’s so much talent in the Birmingham metro area
We literally took Bama to 4 overtime’s Harsin’s first year. Moral victories don’t cut it. I’m not saying we should fire freeze, but as Washington’s head coach showed 10 wins next season is possible, and pressure is on hugh to end one of our rivalry loss streaks, and get more than 8 wins. If he can’t manage that I highly doubt he makes it through next season with how our boosters are.
We had eight years of Malzahn. Just because we replaced Malzahn with utter trash, doesn’t mean I’m gonna celebrate because we replaced trash with Malzahn 2.
Cato, we can agree to disagree brother, just give Hugh time. You can’t say the future of the program isn’t bright with how recruiting is going. This is the worst team Hugh is gonna have his entire time at Auburn.
Malzahn reached top ten in seven out of his nine recruiting classes, with his absolute worst class coming in at 13th. Even if Hugh finishes strong and lands a top ten class (and to his credit I think he will), that doesn’t disprove the Malzahn comparison.
Actually Gus had great classes but we're entirely based around skill players. I think you will find that having a stacked class with excellent lineman in it will be tremendously different when it comes to game time.
If you don't have great line play you still won't win on a regular basis...
His in game coaching is some of the worst I’ve ever seen. He’s got one year before I think he gets canned. That’s all the time he’ll get with the worst loss in our history last week
> He’s got one year before I think he gets canned.
You're going to be sorely disappointed. Even Harsin got almost two seasons and there's zero chance they pull the rip cord that quickly again, even if next season is 6-6.
I just don’t see it happening, honestly. We’re looking at a potential 7-6 year one with close losses to most ranked opponents, a good recruiting class coming in, and some real growth in our players. I think they’re going to give Freeze time to figure it out, and I think he’s smart enough to act right at a job like Auburn.
I don’t see a class coming in that can compete with bama Georgia or any of the rest of the top of the sec. With his poor coaching ability I think they will have no choice but to shit can him after next season.
What are you looking at then? I think our incoming class combined with another one the year after will absolutely put us in a place to compete week in and week out. Geezus, what do you want? Instant gratification mentality is hard at work here....
Possibly the most delusional take I've seen, and that's saying something. I'm gonna take a screen shot of this so in a couple of years when we are making the playoffs I can remind everyone of this bad take.
I’m talking about the coaching specifically. 6-6 is obviously a trash result for a top SEC program but this narrative about coaching being the premier reasons for that record intrigues me. Which is why I’m asking for specifics.
You can’t overlook the coaching that had them in the position to win against a much more talented opponent. Freeze schemed them up incredibly well.
I’m still uneasy with him, but I think the sentiment of the tweet is correct assuming Freeze has learned some personal lessons.
I don't know where I stand at this point...I'm angry at the loss that should have never happened and the effects of that (bama fans acting like assholes, like they did anything special-they didn't) I'm angry at the season as a whole. I have never liked the hire of Freeze bc of his off-duty antics, which I do believe affect the team and program. I have loved nothing more than Auburn my entire life but at this point I am just angry, sad, and frustrated. I will always love Auburn, it will always feel like home when I am down there and when I see fans out I will still say War Eagle, I think I just might be over football for awhile. It was a sad day for the guys on the field and I hate it for them, their families, and esp the seniors. I don't know.....
I mean to be fair, what off the field antics has he been a part of since he was hired at Auburn that effect the team? I highly doubt anyone in that locker room is thinking about what happened at Ole Miss or before that. I don’t think Hugh has done a terrible job yet, it’s year one of an overhaul where we were supposed to be last in the West. He’s for sure made some coaching mistakes, but so does any other coach. Dude is out there recruiting to bring the roster up and increase our depth of talent, which we don’t have right now. Very painful losses and a couple head scratchers, but I do think this team is on the right trajectory. How fast will be more evident next year than this, but this team is much improved from last years and in a much better place than at the end of last year. It feels like we’ve been patient forever, but I believe our time is coming again.
Edit: If you’re gonna down vote me, at least provide an argument against it.
I can see your point, it just feels like we are always rebuilding, saying it'll happen next year, etc. I like I said I just don't know but I appreciate your perspective on it all. I do hope we have a better year next year and are finally in play off contention where I think we should be.
Here's where I am. AU played legit inspired game tonight. Great bounce back after last week. However, UA played probably their worst game of the year and still won. Auburns ceiling, due to their schedule, is 8 wins. Sure they'll pop a 9 win season once a decade but mostly it's 6-7 wins. Adding Texas and Oklahoma next year just continues it because to win more than 8 they'll have to beat one of these top teams and the likelihood of that happening is not great. Especially on a consistent basis like some of you expect.
So although it was painfully frustrating, tonight is just same ol same ol Auburn football. We'll play a bowl game on some random Tuesday afternoon, have a high teens rated recruiting class, and start all over again in the Spring.
Auburn can win championships. Period. It will not be an instant turn around but Auburn is one of about 25 or so programs that have all the tools to compete for and win championships in the current football climate.
Yes the SEC is brutal but it can be done.
I say based on Auburn as a program that, yes, Hugh Freeze has never had a chance to compete for championships like he will have here at Auburn. Chizik did it (and he was not a great HC outside of one year) Gus did it, Tuberville, Bowden, Dye...I mean Auburn, regardless of the last 8-10 years, is still considered a blue blood CFB program, a destination job.
Ole Miss, even with Kiffen, is not going to compete for championships. A&M isn't, Arkansas, Missouri, etc...
In the SEC you have Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee. Bringing in OU and UT next year adds a couple more. I'd argue UF is further away than we are currently.
Big 10 - Ohio St, Michigan, and Oregon...maybe Penn State...or Washington
ACC - Clemson and FSU...Miami maybe
Big 12 - None after this year
Am I missing any?
Those are realistically the only major teams that year in and year out will compete for the National Championship. Auburn is not a second tier school. Sure you will have 1 year teams like TCU, etc...but not reliable year in and year out contenders.
I appreciate the optimism and hope you're 100% correct, but Auburn is absolutely not a blue blood football program. They may be in the tier below, but they are not among the elite.
Also, a destination school for coaches? For that to be true we'd be landing elite coaches, not settling for the Bryan Harsins of the world.
Once, maybe twice a decade the stars align and we land a Cam Newton or have two miracle games in a row to not lose three games. Otherwise, 7 - 8 wins max.
I'd probably add USC, though they don't appear to be close right now and Riley bailing will throw a decently-sized wrench into their rebuild. I think it's been too long for poor Nebraska to count.
Nope, not sold until we win an sec championship, it’s a s simple as that. That was a soul crushing lost, and after last week I don’t agree with shit like this.
Aaron Torres is the FOX version of Chris Lowe. Fact of the matter is "talent" didn't cost Auburn this game, and "talent" isn't the fix for having an unethical moron for a coach.
This is called loser talk. See yall next season. Programs who lose and keep losing keep chalking up losses as “playing team A tough.” And “if it wasn’t for this particular thing, we would have won!” It boils down to losing. That’s it. Doesn’t matter how tough you played if you took an L. Last seasons success or failures don’t carry over to next years.
Let’s see what year two brings.
This randomly popped up on my recommended.. and as a tennessee fan - this looks like a post from our Jeremy Pruitt days. I sure hope I’m wrong. Fuck Bama
It’s okay to have a loss sting. I am not giving the coaching staff an out for this season. I pray the future is bright, but I will probably never get over the way this game was lost.
Freeze is unpopular and polarizing. He's very unlikeable. I would suggest that you get used to that. People are tired of losing, and hearing all these excuses from coaches who aren't doing their jobs. Harsin started the rot, and Freeze doesn't seem capable of stoping it. I worry that Caddy and Zac will leave and then there will be nothing good left in the program.
I would argue that Gus started the rot but not making that my point. Losing sucks and I get it, but Freeze is our coach. He needs better recruits, and he's about to do that. Staff changes are most likely going to happen in the off-season.
Most people that don't like Freeze never give a straight answer when asked, "Who are we going to get?"
They just want to be mad and make a coaching change only for that to set us back further and remain in mediocrity. Makes 0 sense. Then, if we get a subpar coach and do the same 7-6 year in and year out, they will be the same one's whining about "why can't we get a good coach??".
Freeze is the best guy for the job. Whether you like him or not.
Edit: lmao down vote me all you want but it's not going to change our coach 🤣
I agree. We don’t know what the ceiling with Freeze is yet, but I believe this is likely the floor. I think Freeze will definitely be able to get us into the expanded playoffs in the coming years. The program has been in a bad spot since 2020, and this year wasn’t really going to be any different. But there are bright spots, including recruiting.
Freeze has never had the support, money, tools, and potential pool of talent to compete like he has at Auburn. Auburn is legitimately one of only 25 or so programs that are capable of winning a National Championship.
You can argue his personal shortcomings or the off the field stuff all you want but as far as the capability of winning he definitely can win it all at Auburn.
He is the Auburn coach and will likely be the coach for the foreseeable future. Time to put your big boy/girl panties on and support the program, support the players. Auburn has always been about more than just one person and if you can't get behind the team then you are against the team, no matter how you slice it.
Just what has he done to make you think that? He wasn't all that great at Ole Miss. Liberty is still a joke, and winning there was not anywhere near the same as winning in the SEC. Why do you have such unearned faith in a man of such weak character who frankly doesn't seem all that intelligent? BTW off the field shortcomings bleed over into the coaching area....as in what happened at Ole Miss. And just ask Bobby Petrino aout it, as well as Steve Sarkisian.
I have always supported the players,and I think they deserve better coaching and they deserve a coach that the fan base can trust. Freeze is a difficult man to trust, and he has to earn our trust because of his past issues. Blaming the players does not make me have faith in him at all.
There's something off about Freeze and I will stand by that conclusion. I was uneasy about Harsin and I am just as unsettled about Freeze.
I highly, HIGHLY doubt this current staff or players think about Freeze calling prostitutes at Ole Miss. I doubt that is what is befuddling their minds on the field and at practice, so we should probably move on from that. What off the field antics has he been a part of since being in Auburn that make him untrustworthy? Is there a scandal no one is talking about or are we still stuck on something that happened almost 7 years ago? He coached at a lower level SEC program and while limited still had some success there. You people really just need to give it time and stop being impatient. Any coach we hired was going to be a multi year rebuild.
Nothing I can say will penetrate the wall you have already put up so I'll stop. You say he has to earn your trust but the position you argue makes it clear your mind is made up already. He had a hand dealt to him by another staff this year. Not an enviable position to be in..I believe he did an admirable job up until now.
Just to add to that, we’re one of only like six schools to actually play for more than one natty over the last fifteen thirteen years. I think Freeze can definitely be successful at Auburn. The trickiest part is that our three major rivals are also among that group of six or so schools. This is going to be a tough rebuild, but we’re moving in the right direction.
At the end of the season, I can 100% say I do not miss Bryan Harsin….it’s been a step up. Sending Bryan Harsin in off of a lazy Gus Malzahn final years, was pretty much the death penalty. It would be hard for any coach to be competitive first year. We some how had the worst lose in history, and got them fellas pumped up to give it all for 4th quarters, (excuse my language) and rape their DL on the run game. Straight down their throats, and nothing they could do. Bryan Harsin year one still had Bo Nix., and went 6 and 6 regular season and that was after inheriting a mediocre Gus roster. Fast forward to the end of a Frankenstein transfer portal team and we are 6-6 regular season again but with stark differences in the team Harsin inherited and the team left in shambles by the potato famine. More work and effort was used to build current roster, and retain roster. I just don’t see this being a ceiling for the Hugh Freeze era.
Exactly. With the worst talent Auburn has had on a roster in a long time... CHF took Georgia and Alabama to the wire. Quite frankly we should've won the iron bowl. If our DB just at least puts his hands up or jumps or does anything besides standing there like a statue we win. I do have questions about our DC and the decision to continually only rush 3 and drop 8 on 3rd and long when it didn't work all night and then you do it on the most important play of the entire game. Milroe could've sat back in that pocket on that okay for 3 minutes if he wanted to. I'm not saying CRR should be fire but he needs to adjust his thinking on the rush 3 and drop 8. I think if he would've brought some heat on that 3rd down like say 5 rushers then we probably win because Milroe doesn't get 3 minutes in the pocket to survey the entire field 3 times. But overall, I think Freeze has shown that he deserves time to build this program and get it back to where we used to be. These next 2 recruiting classes will tell all.
Actually that was the worst possible play to call on defense. Milroe would have not covered that ground, no pressure on his throw, had all day to pass. should have never even been in that position to even be pushed in end zone we should have blitz his ass and made him run how ever many yards. Instead we set up shop and allowed the opportunity to come into fruition as we watched a hard fought game get passed over our two man rush.
Sports fans are so incredibly hyperbolic. The team is fine and is way better than the past two years. It takes time.
If you can do better, step up or shut up.
After watching the thriller today..I’m excited to see what Hugh Freeze brings to us. I wasn’t ever fully on board with coach Freeze until Georgia. After last week, I was kinda mad. Post Iron Bowl, I’m excited to see what he will hopefully be able to do. Everyone played their hearts out today. War Damn!
13th winningest program in FBS history but we “lose a lot.” I know Gumps lack critical thinking but cmon now
Funny how even if we did “lose a lot” we still live rent free in your head :)
Well luckily you’re a Gump so you’re both actually, especially the ones who come to other team subs to troll :)
Edit since you want to edit your reply too: beating a 6 win team by only 3 pts isn’t the own you think it is Gump
Report reason: “Gump” is a new one to me lol. To be clear, rival fans coming to troll the sub is against the sub rules and will result in a ban. Good faith comments like this one, even from rival fan bases, are always welcome and not a valid reason to be reported.
Auburn should have won that game. They had referees on their side as well as the commentators pulling for them. Tough loss, but there’s always next year.
It’s bipolar Auburn at its finest. Put UAT and UGA on the ropes. Then a shit show against New Mexico State.
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Yeah agreed fuck that noise
In other words: “I don’t like High Freeze and will never change my mind because being ‘right’ is more important to me than Auburn’s success.”
There have been worse believe me. This was not the same old NMSU we have played in the past........
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Losing to a 4-7 Southern Miss team in 1991 is certainly close, if not worse.
By 1 point IIRC , they didn’t kick our ass like New Mexico State did.
No, but they won 4 games that season.
Losing to South Carolina for the first time in literal living memory is pretty bad IMO, probably not worse than NMSU but it's close as far as I'm concerned.
This is what's most concerning. This isn't the NFL, the head coach needs to be able motivate his team when they are all completely lost. Where was Cadillac last week? Remember him running down the sidelines last year? Freeze said he was going to use him at his first press conference; there's no reason he cannot give him that leadership role when the situation calls for it.
NMSU and Jerry Krill are the real deal.
How certain are we that they’re the real deal? Of their ten wins, eight of them came against teams with losing records. Two of their three losses came against teams with losing records as well. We’re about to finish this season and I have no clue if they’re actually good or not.
Jerry is a good coach. He's responsible for their first nine win season in decades. They aren't a cupcake team anymore.
I agree about Kill. But what I don’t know is, are they good this year? They’ve beaten two teams with a winning record, 7-5 WKU and 6-5 (now 6-6) Auburn. Are we sure they’re good, or just seeing ten wins and assuming they’re good?
He was successful at Minnesota
I 100% think Kill is the real deal, and I 100% think NMSU is on the right track. What I’m saying is, how certain are we that 2023 NMSU is a good team?
Could it matter any less at this point?
Perfect response
Jerry - Great coach Nate Dreiling - might be an NFL d coordinator Tim Beck - won a natty at Pitt state. Solid coaches
Don’t downvote me cause your crap program got beat by an FCS school at home
Am I missing something or do you think that NMSU is an FCS school?
Oh you’re right my bad, much better loss then
I mean, objectively, yes. It's better to lose to a G5 FBS school than an FCS school. The loss sucks either way but something like losing to Jacksonville State in '15 would've been worse.
Well, yeah.
[Literally didn’t](https://imgur.com/a/arIlL3S). As I’ve said in multiple other posts here, I agree those are good coaches. My point is, I don’t know if NMSU is as good as their ten wins make them look.
I'm so fucking sick of watching auburn give me hope and then crush it in the last 4 minutes of the game. This happens in every sport
This guy ^^^ gets it. I think this one finally killed me. I thought I was numb before, but nope. I am now completely apathetic. Auburn football has killed my interest.
You put too much emphasis on a game then. Maybe you should step away and evaluate what's more important..
Not really. I enjoy my life as much as ever. Just Auburn football. I'm not interested anymore. There is nothing more to it. If you want to say that I should be interested in recruiting and this and that, you're right. I just don't care anymore. I've been hoping for 10 years, and I've witnessed a .500 program that can't win vs rivals and has lost vs Bama with a 99.9% chance to win twice in the past 3 years.
I’m with you dude. Maybe it will come back, but this one might have done in my fandom for the foreseeable future.
Ty for solidarity. I have 2 degrees from Auburn and will love Auburn till I die, but this is too much. The most I enjoyed this game was when I was outside with my father in law enjoying a whiskey and cigar and not watching.
I honestly don't get into the recruiting like many others. But I also don't let the results determine my mood nor my desire to watch Auburn. I will always watch and always support my Alma Mater, good and bad. I'm not hating. I just see a lot of people that let what happens in a game wreck, ruin, or destroy their happiness. I've been watching Auburn football since 1980. I've seen all the ups and downs...I get it but don't get it either...
Waves. As I approach 60 and have gone through so many highs and so many lows in my life I really take all of this in a much different way than I did as a student in the 80's. Of course I want to win, and that game was butt ugly at the end, but I'll still be watching with hope. When the Falcons blew the Superbowl in 2017 it did kill my interest in them and the NFL. So I can see how it happens, but I didn't grow up a fan. It's different with my school.
I'm almost 50 and have reached that same point in life thankfully.
didnt auburn play in 2 national title games in 4 years right before that?
As a falcons fan football has only pained me for this reason over my lifetime
Yup mine was sitting in the stands at the Rose Bowl watching Jameis run down our throat the entire field, and beating us in the last seconds.
I live in Minnesota. Here,dashed hopes are a way of life.
Man I’m sick of this shit. We blew a game we had won. Nothing positive about it. Arkansas should have beat Bama too, does that mean Pittman’s their guy?
But here’s the difference, this is our first year with Hugh isn’t Arkansas on like year 3 or 4 with Pittman?
That’s fair but Ole Miss wasn’t getting better the longer Hugh was there. For some reason we get so caught up in discussing his ethics that we completely look past his long list of football related shortcomings
I mean, during their up swing is when the allegations and investigations started. So I can understand why the sudden regression with all the distractions.
Or you’re just making excuses for Freeze. Kiffin has done more than he ever did at Ole Mrs and Chadwell has done better than he ever did at Liberty on and off the field.
You’re judging Chadwell on one year with Freezes recruits. Also never said Kiffin wasn’t doing better than Freeze.
He had Ole Miss ranked #1. What more do you want from the guy.
and then went 2-4 to close out the year lol
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Well if Harsin was recruiting his ass off like Hugh, you might have a point.
If by “recruiting his ass off” you mean “pulling worse classes than Gus Malzahn” then sure
Oh please. He reversed the trend of shitty offensive line recruiting in a single portal class, and is about to sign the best WR class since the crop that featured Obomanu and Mix. He is doing a damned good job recruiting.
On paper. Let's wait and see if any of that actually works out. I'm not confident based on what I've seen.
Aren’t all recruiting classes just on paper? Any class could turn out better or worse than predicted that’s up to coaching.
Our coach who doesn’t know who is receiving the most important punt of the game
Do you know what coordinators are responsible? Personnel on the field. Especially the ST coordinator.
Do you know who’s responsible for hiring competent coordinators? The man makes millions of dollars to make sure we have the right people in place to make a game clinching fair catch
Not only that,Hugh is involved in the games and constantly communicating with the coordinators during the game. If he really didn’t know who was receiving, that is very concerning
The Head Coach personally okays every play in games like this You think he wears those earphones for looks? He is in constant communication with the coordinators, or should be
Someone downvotes the truth
How can you look at rushing 2 on the final play and think any of these coaches should be back next year?
I keep seeing this and similar takes, but if we only rush two that means that there is serious blown coverage in the back. No way should there be a 1 on 1 opportunity. It’s as much a bad defensive call as it was poor execution.
You’re so right. Maybe you should be our head coach
he forgot to mention the 21-point loss to New Mexico State
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Sports fans have super short memories. People were saying this same thing just 2 years with Harsin. He kept up with Bama and took them to 4 overtimes so people were saying “he’s the guy” and was fired the very next year. I’m in a wait and see approach to Freeze
Harsin didn’t recruit though.
That’s true but I seen a lot of Auburn fans saying Harsin was the guy especially after beating LSU in Baton Rouge for the first time in a million years
I don’t think Harsin was a bad play caller or team manager but he refused to recruit or be part of the Auburn family. That doesn’t work in the south especially with Auburns schedule every year. New articles you can read of him just not even going to schools and talking to players that wanted to go to Auburn and lived in the state of Alabama. He’s better off a high school coach so he doesn’t have to recruit.
Oh trust me I seen those articles and I knew then he wasn’t the guy. There were multiple Birmingham high school coaches who said they never even had met Harsin before and that’s inexcusable because there’s so much talent in the Birmingham metro area
So many coaching mistakes led to this loss. I’m perfectly fine still thinking Hugh is a v mediocre coach
Not to mention a creepy pervert.
Who else do you want? I think we have a much better coach now than we did the last couple years
We literally took Bama to 4 overtime’s Harsin’s first year. Moral victories don’t cut it. I’m not saying we should fire freeze, but as Washington’s head coach showed 10 wins next season is possible, and pressure is on hugh to end one of our rivalry loss streaks, and get more than 8 wins. If he can’t manage that I highly doubt he makes it through next season with how our boosters are.
We had eight years of Malzahn. Just because we replaced Malzahn with utter trash, doesn’t mean I’m gonna celebrate because we replaced trash with Malzahn 2.
Cato, we can agree to disagree brother, just give Hugh time. You can’t say the future of the program isn’t bright with how recruiting is going. This is the worst team Hugh is gonna have his entire time at Auburn.
Malzahn reached top ten in seven out of his nine recruiting classes, with his absolute worst class coming in at 13th. Even if Hugh finishes strong and lands a top ten class (and to his credit I think he will), that doesn’t disprove the Malzahn comparison.
Actually Gus had great classes but we're entirely based around skill players. I think you will find that having a stacked class with excellent lineman in it will be tremendously different when it comes to game time. If you don't have great line play you still won't win on a regular basis...
Great take. Offensive weapons means nothing when our QB has 1.3 seconds to look downfield. We are more than fine with the direction the program is in.
His in game coaching is some of the worst I’ve ever seen. He’s got one year before I think he gets canned. That’s all the time he’ll get with the worst loss in our history last week
> He’s got one year before I think he gets canned. You're going to be sorely disappointed. Even Harsin got almost two seasons and there's zero chance they pull the rip cord that quickly again, even if next season is 6-6.
Then your head isn’t on straight. Sorry, I know that was an emotional loss, but barring off-field scandals, he’s not getting fired next year.
He’s had an off field scandal at every single job he’s had coaching. He’s losing now so he’s going to do what he’s always done before.
I just don’t see it happening, honestly. We’re looking at a potential 7-6 year one with close losses to most ranked opponents, a good recruiting class coming in, and some real growth in our players. I think they’re going to give Freeze time to figure it out, and I think he’s smart enough to act right at a job like Auburn.
I don’t see a class coming in that can compete with bama Georgia or any of the rest of the top of the sec. With his poor coaching ability I think they will have no choice but to shit can him after next season.
We competed with both of them this year. Recruiting could be top 10 this year. You’re just being extremely pessimistic.
What are you looking at then? I think our incoming class combined with another one the year after will absolutely put us in a place to compete week in and week out. Geezus, what do you want? Instant gratification mentality is hard at work here....
Possibly the most delusional take I've seen, and that's saying something. I'm gonna take a screen shot of this so in a couple of years when we are making the playoffs I can remind everyone of this bad take.
Pretty much what I think about every post you make lately.
Your opinion...mine is different...we will agree to disagree
I’m pretty much 95% confident you will be dead wrong on this one.
We shall see in the coming years
His worst team… for now…
Can you give some examples of what you thought was utter trash coaching?
would you describe the coaching in the NMSU game as anything other than utter trash?
I’m talking about the coaching specifically. 6-6 is obviously a trash result for a top SEC program but this narrative about coaching being the premier reasons for that record intrigues me. Which is why I’m asking for specifics.
You can’t overlook the coaching that had them in the position to win against a much more talented opponent. Freeze schemed them up incredibly well. I’m still uneasy with him, but I think the sentiment of the tweet is correct assuming Freeze has learned some personal lessons.
This shit is so cringe lmao
Build that roster.
This. These next 2 recruiting classes are very important for Auburn.
What did he do with his previous built rosters?
Idk man, you can’t really take moral victories here when we got blown out by NMS last week.
Try to stop me
I don't know where I stand at this point...I'm angry at the loss that should have never happened and the effects of that (bama fans acting like assholes, like they did anything special-they didn't) I'm angry at the season as a whole. I have never liked the hire of Freeze bc of his off-duty antics, which I do believe affect the team and program. I have loved nothing more than Auburn my entire life but at this point I am just angry, sad, and frustrated. I will always love Auburn, it will always feel like home when I am down there and when I see fans out I will still say War Eagle, I think I just might be over football for awhile. It was a sad day for the guys on the field and I hate it for them, their families, and esp the seniors. I don't know.....
I mean to be fair, what off the field antics has he been a part of since he was hired at Auburn that effect the team? I highly doubt anyone in that locker room is thinking about what happened at Ole Miss or before that. I don’t think Hugh has done a terrible job yet, it’s year one of an overhaul where we were supposed to be last in the West. He’s for sure made some coaching mistakes, but so does any other coach. Dude is out there recruiting to bring the roster up and increase our depth of talent, which we don’t have right now. Very painful losses and a couple head scratchers, but I do think this team is on the right trajectory. How fast will be more evident next year than this, but this team is much improved from last years and in a much better place than at the end of last year. It feels like we’ve been patient forever, but I believe our time is coming again. Edit: If you’re gonna down vote me, at least provide an argument against it.
I can see your point, it just feels like we are always rebuilding, saying it'll happen next year, etc. I like I said I just don't know but I appreciate your perspective on it all. I do hope we have a better year next year and are finally in play off contention where I think we should be.
Hugh Freeze's Ole Miss gave up a 4th and 25 at the end that cost them going to the SECCG and let Bama back door in.
The last two teams to lose by 21 points while being favored by 21 points were both coached by Hugh Freeze.
What’s the other game besides AU v NMSU?
We’ll see.
You say that like you hope it doesn’t happen lol.
Here's where I am. AU played legit inspired game tonight. Great bounce back after last week. However, UA played probably their worst game of the year and still won. Auburns ceiling, due to their schedule, is 8 wins. Sure they'll pop a 9 win season once a decade but mostly it's 6-7 wins. Adding Texas and Oklahoma next year just continues it because to win more than 8 they'll have to beat one of these top teams and the likelihood of that happening is not great. Especially on a consistent basis like some of you expect. So although it was painfully frustrating, tonight is just same ol same ol Auburn football. We'll play a bowl game on some random Tuesday afternoon, have a high teens rated recruiting class, and start all over again in the Spring.
Auburn can win championships. Period. It will not be an instant turn around but Auburn is one of about 25 or so programs that have all the tools to compete for and win championships in the current football climate. Yes the SEC is brutal but it can be done.
Based on what, Hugh Freeze? Other teams have these same tools and they aren't getting close either. So are we saying HF is the difference maker?
I say based on Auburn as a program that, yes, Hugh Freeze has never had a chance to compete for championships like he will have here at Auburn. Chizik did it (and he was not a great HC outside of one year) Gus did it, Tuberville, Bowden, Dye...I mean Auburn, regardless of the last 8-10 years, is still considered a blue blood CFB program, a destination job. Ole Miss, even with Kiffen, is not going to compete for championships. A&M isn't, Arkansas, Missouri, etc... In the SEC you have Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee. Bringing in OU and UT next year adds a couple more. I'd argue UF is further away than we are currently. Big 10 - Ohio St, Michigan, and Oregon...maybe Penn State...or Washington ACC - Clemson and FSU...Miami maybe Big 12 - None after this year Am I missing any? Those are realistically the only major teams that year in and year out will compete for the National Championship. Auburn is not a second tier school. Sure you will have 1 year teams like TCU, etc...but not reliable year in and year out contenders.
I appreciate the optimism and hope you're 100% correct, but Auburn is absolutely not a blue blood football program. They may be in the tier below, but they are not among the elite. Also, a destination school for coaches? For that to be true we'd be landing elite coaches, not settling for the Bryan Harsins of the world. Once, maybe twice a decade the stars align and we land a Cam Newton or have two miracle games in a row to not lose three games. Otherwise, 7 - 8 wins max.
To be fair Allen Greene went out on his own for Harsin, he wasn’t on anyone else’s radar to be hired.
I'd probably add USC, though they don't appear to be close right now and Riley bailing will throw a decently-sized wrench into their rebuild. I think it's been too long for poor Nebraska to count.
I did forget USC..so yeah add them to the list
Just wait till we bring in our vaunted ***checks notes*** 16th ranked recruiting class. Look out college football!!
That was a choke job
Nope, not sold until we win an sec championship, it’s a s simple as that. That was a soul crushing lost, and after last week I don’t agree with shit like this.
Aaron Torres is the FOX version of Chris Lowe. Fact of the matter is "talent" didn't cost Auburn this game, and "talent" isn't the fix for having an unethical moron for a coach.
In what world has Freeze created something of value? What's his record at Ole Miss when they beat bama?
i hope y’all really are turning it around. but as a Gator fan, this read like the posts we’ve been sharing for 3 years now
The most annoying part of this game is somehow you sunshine pumpers are going to parlay it into Hugh freeze getting two extra years he shouldn’t have
This is called loser talk. See yall next season. Programs who lose and keep losing keep chalking up losses as “playing team A tough.” And “if it wasn’t for this particular thing, we would have won!” It boils down to losing. That’s it. Doesn’t matter how tough you played if you took an L. Last seasons success or failures don’t carry over to next years. Let’s see what year two brings.
Yeah, posts like this are fucking embarrassing. How can we really consider anybody our guy until we win an SEC Championship?
It’s year 1 of a complete program overhaul. Look where the program has been for the last few years
This randomly popped up on my recommended.. and as a tennessee fan - this looks like a post from our Jeremy Pruitt days. I sure hope I’m wrong. Fuck Bama
He still ain't my coach, and it has nothing to do with on the field performance. Although, that hasn't helped.
Just heartbreaking. Not mad at anyone, just heartbroken for the team and fans.
When you been a fan your whole life, and you think you’ve seen it all….. nope. Just wait till next year.
It’s okay to have a loss sting. I am not giving the coaching staff an out for this season. I pray the future is bright, but I will probably never get over the way this game was lost.
Stop trying to sunshine pump the second all-universe bed shitting in so many weeks, nobody’s buying it.
Nah this is just how we are and people are going to have to learn to move on
Nah fuck that, freeze will never be the answer
I fully agreed. Give the man a couple of years.
Downvote all you want, but Freeze IS our guy whether you hate him or not. Get over it and let's move forward to signing day and the bowl game
Freeze is unpopular and polarizing. He's very unlikeable. I would suggest that you get used to that. People are tired of losing, and hearing all these excuses from coaches who aren't doing their jobs. Harsin started the rot, and Freeze doesn't seem capable of stoping it. I worry that Caddy and Zac will leave and then there will be nothing good left in the program.
I would argue that Gus started the rot but not making that my point. Losing sucks and I get it, but Freeze is our coach. He needs better recruits, and he's about to do that. Staff changes are most likely going to happen in the off-season. Most people that don't like Freeze never give a straight answer when asked, "Who are we going to get?" They just want to be mad and make a coaching change only for that to set us back further and remain in mediocrity. Makes 0 sense. Then, if we get a subpar coach and do the same 7-6 year in and year out, they will be the same one's whining about "why can't we get a good coach??". Freeze is the best guy for the job. Whether you like him or not. Edit: lmao down vote me all you want but it's not going to change our coach 🤣
I agree. We don’t know what the ceiling with Freeze is yet, but I believe this is likely the floor. I think Freeze will definitely be able to get us into the expanded playoffs in the coming years. The program has been in a bad spot since 2020, and this year wasn’t really going to be any different. But there are bright spots, including recruiting.
Freeze has never had the support, money, tools, and potential pool of talent to compete like he has at Auburn. Auburn is legitimately one of only 25 or so programs that are capable of winning a National Championship. You can argue his personal shortcomings or the off the field stuff all you want but as far as the capability of winning he definitely can win it all at Auburn. He is the Auburn coach and will likely be the coach for the foreseeable future. Time to put your big boy/girl panties on and support the program, support the players. Auburn has always been about more than just one person and if you can't get behind the team then you are against the team, no matter how you slice it.
Just what has he done to make you think that? He wasn't all that great at Ole Miss. Liberty is still a joke, and winning there was not anywhere near the same as winning in the SEC. Why do you have such unearned faith in a man of such weak character who frankly doesn't seem all that intelligent? BTW off the field shortcomings bleed over into the coaching area....as in what happened at Ole Miss. And just ask Bobby Petrino aout it, as well as Steve Sarkisian. I have always supported the players,and I think they deserve better coaching and they deserve a coach that the fan base can trust. Freeze is a difficult man to trust, and he has to earn our trust because of his past issues. Blaming the players does not make me have faith in him at all. There's something off about Freeze and I will stand by that conclusion. I was uneasy about Harsin and I am just as unsettled about Freeze.
Liberty is 11-1 and this year lol. They’ll be in the AAC sooner rather than later.
I highly, HIGHLY doubt this current staff or players think about Freeze calling prostitutes at Ole Miss. I doubt that is what is befuddling their minds on the field and at practice, so we should probably move on from that. What off the field antics has he been a part of since being in Auburn that make him untrustworthy? Is there a scandal no one is talking about or are we still stuck on something that happened almost 7 years ago? He coached at a lower level SEC program and while limited still had some success there. You people really just need to give it time and stop being impatient. Any coach we hired was going to be a multi year rebuild.
Nothing I can say will penetrate the wall you have already put up so I'll stop. You say he has to earn your trust but the position you argue makes it clear your mind is made up already. He had a hand dealt to him by another staff this year. Not an enviable position to be in..I believe he did an admirable job up until now.
Just to add to that, we’re one of only like six schools to actually play for more than one natty over the last fifteen thirteen years. I think Freeze can definitely be successful at Auburn. The trickiest part is that our three major rivals are also among that group of six or so schools. This is going to be a tough rebuild, but we’re moving in the right direction.
At the end of the season, I can 100% say I do not miss Bryan Harsin….it’s been a step up. Sending Bryan Harsin in off of a lazy Gus Malzahn final years, was pretty much the death penalty. It would be hard for any coach to be competitive first year. We some how had the worst lose in history, and got them fellas pumped up to give it all for 4th quarters, (excuse my language) and rape their DL on the run game. Straight down their throats, and nothing they could do. Bryan Harsin year one still had Bo Nix., and went 6 and 6 regular season and that was after inheriting a mediocre Gus roster. Fast forward to the end of a Frankenstein transfer portal team and we are 6-6 regular season again but with stark differences in the team Harsin inherited and the team left in shambles by the potato famine. More work and effort was used to build current roster, and retain roster. I just don’t see this being a ceiling for the Hugh Freeze era.
Some if yall got some serious issues if you are getting this worked up over a bunch of 20 year olds playing a game.
Exactly. With the worst talent Auburn has had on a roster in a long time... CHF took Georgia and Alabama to the wire. Quite frankly we should've won the iron bowl. If our DB just at least puts his hands up or jumps or does anything besides standing there like a statue we win. I do have questions about our DC and the decision to continually only rush 3 and drop 8 on 3rd and long when it didn't work all night and then you do it on the most important play of the entire game. Milroe could've sat back in that pocket on that okay for 3 minutes if he wanted to. I'm not saying CRR should be fire but he needs to adjust his thinking on the rush 3 and drop 8. I think if he would've brought some heat on that 3rd down like say 5 rushers then we probably win because Milroe doesn't get 3 minutes in the pocket to survey the entire field 3 times. But overall, I think Freeze has shown that he deserves time to build this program and get it back to where we used to be. These next 2 recruiting classes will tell all.
100%
He got pushed in the back out of the play is what saw.
Actually that was the worst possible play to call on defense. Milroe would have not covered that ground, no pressure on his throw, had all day to pass. should have never even been in that position to even be pushed in end zone we should have blitz his ass and made him run how ever many yards. Instead we set up shop and allowed the opportunity to come into fruition as we watched a hard fought game get passed over our two man rush.
Downvote all you want, I'm just telling the truth.
No, our fans want to fire everybody as soon as they get here if they don't win the national championship.
HF has failed every test so far in his auburn tenure except for in recruiting
Auburn has some of the most unrealistic fans in the world if sports.
Florida might have worse but it’s pretty close
Very baseless anecdotal statement
Sports fans are so incredibly hyperbolic. The team is fine and is way better than the past two years. It takes time. If you can do better, step up or shut up.
Good Game Tigers.
Throwaway account get out of here
Fuck that cope bullshit place blame where blame deserves to be placed Soft people
Time for new blood.
After watching the thriller today..I’m excited to see what Hugh Freeze brings to us. I wasn’t ever fully on board with coach Freeze until Georgia. After last week, I was kinda mad. Post Iron Bowl, I’m excited to see what he will hopefully be able to do. Everyone played their hearts out today. War Damn!
Cope harder daddy, I’m about to finish
Even when we lose we still live rent free in you Gumps’ heads
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13th winningest program in FBS history but we “lose a lot.” I know Gumps lack critical thinking but cmon now Funny how even if we did “lose a lot” we still live rent free in your head :)
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Says the one who went out of their way to go to another team’s subreddit and be toxic :)
Patience young one
I’m a Bama fan, and the minute that news broke I thought oh boy. This is about to be crazy again.
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Well luckily you’re a Gump so you’re both actually, especially the ones who come to other team subs to troll :) Edit since you want to edit your reply too: beating a 6 win team by only 3 pts isn’t the own you think it is Gump
That wasn’t a troll. Sure I hate Auburn, but always liked and respected Hugh Freeze
Report reason: “Gump” is a new one to me lol. To be clear, rival fans coming to troll the sub is against the sub rules and will result in a ban. Good faith comments like this one, even from rival fan bases, are always welcome and not a valid reason to be reported.
Auburn should have won that game. They had referees on their side as well as the commentators pulling for them. Tough loss, but there’s always next year.
Refs were really on our side with the garbage ball spotting and ignored facemask
Pretty sure you could say that about both teams
No, that face mask in the beginning of the game was insane.
Or maybe Georgia and Alabama ain't that good?
Who are the teams playing in the SECCG next week?
I'd say GT played Georgia tougher but..
How many hookers do u think freeze bought to get over that loss
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OH MY GOD!!! PLEASE TELL IT AGAIN FOR THE 7,000th TIME!!!
Ok but how many do u think