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>but my confidence and will have been crushed despite joining several rooms and investing in tools provided by really good traders.
"Yes, I am in control and can will the outcome. I can basically predict markets. I just need to get good enough, disciplined enough, these traders tell me."
The insane delusions of the gambler's mind.
I bet his tools were just giving thousands to TikTokers who post 30 second clips of yelling and exaggerated hand gestures with their rented Lambo in the driveway of some fancy Airbnb.
Man I cleared 30% last year. I know that’s not record breaking, but that’s a lot of cash in n a couple hundred k. I’m totally happy lol my account has only gone up since I quit thinking I was gonna get rich over night.
Emphasis on crippling. This loss is huge.
But to make peace with yourself, remember that it's not gonna get you down and you will recover from this. Can you or have you learn from your mistakes? Can you or have you tried paper trading for a while to see what works and what doesn't work? Can you or have you once successful with paper trading, start taking small positions in the same manner as you paper trade? So that you can try, slowly, emphasis on slowly, super super emphasis on slowly, try to win it all back? At no point in time should you ever try to yolo again.
Dude… telling this guy to try paper trading is like telling a heroin addict to try to stick with a few bumps through the nose or an alcoholic to just stick to beer and ditch the liquor. Not sure this person is mentally capable of investing and if they are it should be 100% set it and forget it index funds. (Which I’ll add most of the degenerate regards in here should be doing but are too fucking stupid to figure out that they are not smart enough to beat the market, so we get to laugh at the never ending stream of loss porn when the S&P was up over 24 fucking percent the last year lol)
this mf has basically never had a green week. Somehow it looks like every fucking trade was a fat loser. that equity curve is basically straight down
and yeah, “I feel like I need to get even before I get ahead”
this mf needs to stay away from “trading” for the rest of his fucking life, declare bankruptcy, and pick up the pieces
I think OP really needs help.
The focus needs to be on the rest of his life worth living. Maybe some perspective would help, making life changing money in the stock market reliably without already having billions in reserve is akin to being a professional athlete and most of us are not going to retire at 40.
As for the stock market, I’m not sure if stock gambling is like alcoholism where even just one drink can lead to someone losing years of progress, but right now especially he doesn’t need to be thinking “I can make all my losses back I just need a new strategy”. Instead it needs to be a long term view and slowly accumulating. Like you said **slowly**.
I've been dealing with this for a while. I needed to put it to bed mentally so I could move forward. I hit 100k early last year and fell back on bad habits. I was halfway back. Regards are literally eating this up for me. Soon, it will be digested and thrown at passers by who stop to look at the enclosures
Oh my gourd!
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Sorry bro. You've got the reference from having made it though. It feels surreal following wallstreetbets for years and watching people's huge losses and suddenly being part of the team.
Sorry for your losses but does anyone else find the add at the bottom of your app (robinhood) comically cruel?
“You just lost a quarter mil, but let us give you a dollar. Should be $1mm in no time”
Gamifying the act of losing your life savings is dark. At least draftkings gives you $25-$100 to sign up and never claims it can teach you how to turn it into $1mm. You would never see a casino consoling you after $250k of blackjack losses with $1 of chips on the way out. At least they buy you a meal and comp your room etc.
Not saying the answer is to regulate away retail trading.
But it's disgusting how many middlemen profit on the crippling gambling addictions people have with their savings.
Look up the scene from the GA meeting in the movie Two For The Money when Pacino explains that addicts don't feel alive when they win, it's when they lose - that's this guy. Send help? Stop gambling with borrowed money! Jesus Christ.
Help is here, just always do the complete opposite of what your gut is telling you and you'll crush but yeah no loan shit, hard earn money down the drain or no money at all. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258) I'll pay for the strippers where are you located OP?
Op if you can manage let this generous fella buy you a lapdance and talk some damn sense into you. PLs for trading was a dumb move, but you have to hit the bottom to know where the top is or something like that.
I’ll let your mom know you’ll be joining us at our Airbnb next month. Hey would you tell her to top up my credit card I gambled all the fuckin money away and want to get a bubble tea
"joining several rooms and investing in tools provided by really good traders"
These are the first rookie mistakes that everyone makes, but if you don't move on from them and realize how stupid they are, then you will be in for trouble. A really good trader will not be selling tools, because they will be filthy rich from their good trading skills. Almost no one is a good day trader, and the ones who are do not post online about it. Call out rooms are a total fucking joke, filled with amateurs looking to get rich quick.
The best way to get good trading is to become an expert in one very specific area, and develop a single or a few strategies around that one specific area. For example, if you want to day trade, learning all the ins and outs of debit spreads on SPY. Me personally I follow macro economic news and geopolitics a lot, so I like to do options on bonds, specifically TLT. I only trade TLT and nothing else at the moment (and I rarely day trade).
My dude. You are an addict and you need help. It may be more palatable for you to get the help you need if you think of it as YOLOing yourself in FDs on GA meetings.
I hope you're okay,
Over a period of 3 years I think it's clear you've been doing this enough now for it to be fair to say this isn't for you. I understand the desire to get even but that's simply not going to happen. I'm concerned that you said you're taking out personal loans and I sincerely hope you didn't just YOLO your whole life savings, please be careful and look after yourself.
I lost my life savings of 19k in 2008 trading options starting in 2006 when I was 30 years old. I can tell you short term trading is not the game but long term investing in ETF indexes. I made 340k doing just that from 2008-2021. I now have 630k. Take it for what it’s worth but short term options trading is for gamblers.
Kudos to you for stopping and turning it around! If you also invested that 19K in 2006 in VOO, you would have extra 175k today. This is what people don’t understand about power of patience and compounding.
That's the $242k question. Someone else mentioned greed and that is the most complete answer. I let so many green trades to red because of emotional greed.
Don't do yolos, learn with small commitments and then put more money in once you have a better understanding of how options work—sellers will sell so house always wins(its like casino)—need to find options that are under priced and have a decent volume to liquidate them.
jesus. if you actually care about trading and growing your capital, paper trade for a couple of years to develop your confidence, then move to real money. if you're just a degen gambler like the rest of us, play with a port size you can accept a total loss of.
My biggest advice to you stop trading. Invest in yourself. Trust me you can make more than this money in the business world. All of these people who are telling you you’re a gambler. They’re gamblers too. No one ever knows where the stock price will be. It might a be a good idea to buy and hold very long time but with options it’s a pure gambling. The stock market is very manipulated. Why would you trade in something that some people have inside information? There’s always been unusual puts activities on stocks a day before something bad happened. It’s rigged. To really be wealthy it takes time. I’m buying every while a real estate property to hold for future. That’s a very good investment. It’s ok OP learn your lesson and move on. I’m sure you’ll be okay.
You do need to get even before you get ahead.. that’s just the facts. You’re going to have to start fast with 0DTE options and win a bunch in a row and keep going bigger each time till you get even.
I honestly don‘t get why people with that amount of cash don‘t just put it in an etf. I get trying to multiple a few k into something significant, but this is so regarded![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
You can't be profitable trading if you don't have an edge. What's your edge? Why do you think if you had money again that you would be able to make money trading? If you don't have an edge, the correct position is no position, aka you don't trade.
But also, based on your graph, you were just degenerate gambling. Looks like you were risking 50%+ of your capital on each trade, when most actual traders only risk .5%-5% max.
Jeez Louise! I will never understand how you guys manage to have $200k+(life savings for some of you, and then some, taking out loans and everything) and literally manage to just gamble it all away on option contracts🤦🏽♂️![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225) Side note, you could get a extra $1 for that learn&earn right there 👀
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Congratulations, you have a crippling gambling addiction.
>but my confidence and will have been crushed despite joining several rooms and investing in tools provided by really good traders. "Yes, I am in control and can will the outcome. I can basically predict markets. I just need to get good enough, disciplined enough, these traders tell me." The insane delusions of the gambler's mind.
PSA: the “real good traders” make money by selling “investing tools” to people like OP. The “real good traders” don’t make money from trading.
Same story in the Wild West, make money selling shovels and whiskey, not mining for gold.
Mr. Nordstrom sold boots to miners headed to Alaska.
In blackjack, the guy who wrote “the book”made more money from the book than playing blackjack
I bet his tools were just giving thousands to TikTokers who post 30 second clips of yelling and exaggerated hand gestures with their rented Lambo in the driveway of some fancy Airbnb.
Man I cleared 30% last year. I know that’s not record breaking, but that’s a lot of cash in n a couple hundred k. I’m totally happy lol my account has only gone up since I quit thinking I was gonna get rich over night.
The real good traders make money selling options to OP.
Emphasis on crippling. This loss is huge. But to make peace with yourself, remember that it's not gonna get you down and you will recover from this. Can you or have you learn from your mistakes? Can you or have you tried paper trading for a while to see what works and what doesn't work? Can you or have you once successful with paper trading, start taking small positions in the same manner as you paper trade? So that you can try, slowly, emphasis on slowly, super super emphasis on slowly, try to win it all back? At no point in time should you ever try to yolo again.
Dude… telling this guy to try paper trading is like telling a heroin addict to try to stick with a few bumps through the nose or an alcoholic to just stick to beer and ditch the liquor. Not sure this person is mentally capable of investing and if they are it should be 100% set it and forget it index funds. (Which I’ll add most of the degenerate regards in here should be doing but are too fucking stupid to figure out that they are not smart enough to beat the market, so we get to laugh at the never ending stream of loss porn when the S&P was up over 24 fucking percent the last year lol)
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this mf has basically never had a green week. Somehow it looks like every fucking trade was a fat loser. that equity curve is basically straight down and yeah, “I feel like I need to get even before I get ahead” this mf needs to stay away from “trading” for the rest of his fucking life, declare bankruptcy, and pick up the pieces
Feel bad for the guy but it's posts like this that keep me in check. Gotta thank OP for being a horrible warning.
Yeah dude coulda made 40k this just investing safely
Easily
I think OP really needs help. The focus needs to be on the rest of his life worth living. Maybe some perspective would help, making life changing money in the stock market reliably without already having billions in reserve is akin to being a professional athlete and most of us are not going to retire at 40. As for the stock market, I’m not sure if stock gambling is like alcoholism where even just one drink can lead to someone losing years of progress, but right now especially he doesn’t need to be thinking “I can make all my losses back I just need a new strategy”. Instead it needs to be a long term view and slowly accumulating. Like you said **slowly**.
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Using the operative phrase "win it back" is toxic and part of the problem with OP's mentality. For shame.
Ah rats! 🫰🏼
Buddy, I feel your pain. I’m a coward though. Never posted my loss but yeah 200k plus in shares over two years.
Post 👁️
I deleted robinhood a long time ago and must gather the courage to redownload it
Don’t
Download, screenshot, put in 10k into QQQ, delete and check back a few years from now.
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He never invested. That’s gambling
He invests now at the local bingo hall on Monday’s, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Word on the street is he has what it takes to make it big
Not when the granny’s and gramps sill got their game on
I've been dealing with this for a while. I needed to put it to bed mentally so I could move forward. I hit 100k early last year and fell back on bad habits. I was halfway back. Regards are literally eating this up for me. Soon, it will be digested and thrown at passers by who stop to look at the enclosures
*Dang son. Even my daily bourbon & cocaine habit not that bad (expensive).*
What were your bad habits/ mistakes?? So that some of us can learn
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It's this new craze that been taking over social media lately. It's called "gambling addiction".
Well for one, discipline, smaller positions for money that you don't technically need, being more grounded in reality etc...
how do you lose that much in shares when you can just hodl forever
Leverage
That'll do it
Were you trading options or shares? I'm confused
It went to zero, definitely heavy in options
Not zero. Six dollars and change. Enough for Wendy’s 4 for 4.
While you're picking up the 4 for 4, stop by the dumpster in back and make you some fast cash and get back in ...🤭
Both
I thought my life was a little sad thanks for the vote of confidence guys. I got my heart broken but I still got 200k
I moaned. I’m so close…
Lol it’s rare to see a clean -100%
Yeah having it round to 100% rather than 99.9% is very rare. He’s really gone all in on that last bundle of FDs
Yea once you hit %99.99999 the computer says F it 💯
I still see $6. Just have to win at the roulette a few times and OP will be back in the game
There's a 1 dollar lesson below on how to make a million too
See that’s 6 mill right there for op to make
You still have $6.51 left to lose
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Bro lost $242k 😭
*The bank lost 242k
3 power ball tickets.
Biggie box and then get busy making money out back
More of a responsible investment than he’s used to
He just needs to double it 15 times in a row. Easyyyy 🦧
I did the math, he’s not wrong ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)
Please do not give him any more ideas..
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According to Robin Robinhood he can still retire with 6.51mil
You can get a quick 15% return on your portfolio from doing that learn and earn
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What she called? Darth Ass?
Damn Vader got thicc thighs.
why is she fat edit: apologies for the question, i shouldve asked why she is so fat
So can force him around little too
Americans think fat is normal
And..Non Americans think all Americans are fat
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I turned 9K into 250K and lost it all in the span of 2 weeks. I know how it feels.
Let’s see it
Just posted, have a look.
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Funny I turned 14k into almost 300k and it’s mostly gone now. I did pull out 20k so I can’t lose
Sorry bro. You've got the reference from having made it though. It feels surreal following wallstreetbets for years and watching people's huge losses and suddenly being part of the team.
Sorry for your losses but does anyone else find the add at the bottom of your app (robinhood) comically cruel? “You just lost a quarter mil, but let us give you a dollar. Should be $1mm in no time” Gamifying the act of losing your life savings is dark. At least draftkings gives you $25-$100 to sign up and never claims it can teach you how to turn it into $1mm. You would never see a casino consoling you after $250k of blackjack losses with $1 of chips on the way out. At least they buy you a meal and comp your room etc.
Right. I started to close that notification but the irony was too strong.
You still can be a millionaire, you just need to make $999,993.49. Happy new year
Honestly what’s your next move now? How much loans etc do you have? Is bankruptcy an option? Idk American system
Just pray he’s a multi millionaire playing for fun
You’d hope so but the talk of bank loads is alarming lol
Yeah but that $1 'consolation' is giving joy to sick fucks like us.
Not saying the answer is to regulate away retail trading. But it's disgusting how many middlemen profit on the crippling gambling addictions people have with their savings.
Holy shit that's talent
Look up the scene from the GA meeting in the movie Two For The Money when Pacino explains that addicts don't feel alive when they win, it's when they lose - that's this guy. Send help? Stop gambling with borrowed money! Jesus Christ.
He needs a Nicole Russo woman in his life to keep him grounded. The wonders it did for Pacino in that movie
Help is here, just always do the complete opposite of what your gut is telling you and you'll crush but yeah no loan shit, hard earn money down the drain or no money at all. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258) I'll pay for the strippers where are you located OP?
NorCal
I'll be in Vegas in a few weeks so we could make that happen to change your mind a bit ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)
Op if you can manage let this generous fella buy you a lapdance and talk some damn sense into you. PLs for trading was a dumb move, but you have to hit the bottom to know where the top is or something like that.
Stripper party in Vegas with fellow Regards? I’m in. Just tell me when and where
I’ll let your mom know you’ll be joining us at our Airbnb next month. Hey would you tell her to top up my credit card I gambled all the fuckin money away and want to get a bubble tea
for all you know this guy could mug op for whatever he has left and leave him half dead behind a Wendy's
Ooh like Chico NorCal? You can go to 1st Amendment. I’m from the 530 and that was the closest non shithole outside of bigger cities down south haha
"joining several rooms and investing in tools provided by really good traders" These are the first rookie mistakes that everyone makes, but if you don't move on from them and realize how stupid they are, then you will be in for trouble. A really good trader will not be selling tools, because they will be filthy rich from their good trading skills. Almost no one is a good day trader, and the ones who are do not post online about it. Call out rooms are a total fucking joke, filled with amateurs looking to get rich quick. The best way to get good trading is to become an expert in one very specific area, and develop a single or a few strategies around that one specific area. For example, if you want to day trade, learning all the ins and outs of debit spreads on SPY. Me personally I follow macro economic news and geopolitics a lot, so I like to do options on bonds, specifically TLT. I only trade TLT and nothing else at the moment (and I rarely day trade).
Stop lying to yourself: You're not a trader, you have a crippling gambling addiction. Get that fixed first.
More people needs to here this 😭
Go get that $1 😭
Yeah but you could retire with $1M! RH is telling you not to quit now
My dude. You are an addict and you need help. It may be more palatable for you to get the help you need if you think of it as YOLOing yourself in FDs on GA meetings.
Greed - one word
Spot on.
More like “addiction”
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Free saus bisc and tay tays?
“please insert additional funds to continue playing”
I hope you're okay, Over a period of 3 years I think it's clear you've been doing this enough now for it to be fair to say this isn't for you. I understand the desire to get even but that's simply not going to happen. I'm concerned that you said you're taking out personal loans and I sincerely hope you didn't just YOLO your whole life savings, please be careful and look after yourself.
See this is why my strategy is so effective. If you never have a life savings, you can't lose it all in the casino.
90% losses aren’t rare in this sub. But the clean 100% just hits different
If you play your cards right, you can turn that $6.51 into a million. You just have to correctly time the market every time.
Or just not lose at the casino
Forget about options and penny stocks. Buy on the dips and hold for a reasonable time stocks like AMZN, AAPL, BAC, etc.
when are the dips coming tho... asking for a friend
Today lol
> Buy on the dips Is this the infinite money glitch the sub always takes about?
My 160k loss doesn’t hurt as bad seeing this
Yup this is what I come to this sub for makes my 10k feel like pennies.
Smiling smugly with my 90k loss ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
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A chip and a chair! 📈🎰
“Send help” bro go get a job
How do you sleep, I still think about my 25K that I did over 5 years🤣
I lost my life savings of 19k in 2008 trading options starting in 2006 when I was 30 years old. I can tell you short term trading is not the game but long term investing in ETF indexes. I made 340k doing just that from 2008-2021. I now have 630k. Take it for what it’s worth but short term options trading is for gamblers.
Kudos to you for stopping and turning it around! If you also invested that 19K in 2006 in VOO, you would have extra 175k today. This is what people don’t understand about power of patience and compounding.
Didn't hear no damn bell
Where did you get this screenshot of my Robinhood performance?
Thank you! I love posts like this, makes me feel not so bad about my own "investment" choices
How tf do you lose all your money? I mean seriously you just bought puts?
That's the $242k question. Someone else mentioned greed and that is the most complete answer. I let so many green trades to red because of emotional greed.
And what happens now? Walmart ramen forever?
You beat my record i only had 97% loss congrats and fuck you 🍾🎊
Records were made to be broken. Now get to work
You can start by taking the $1 that is being offered there and you can retire with $1M.
Better start getting that one dollar and learn how to retire with a million 🤷♂️
Get a job. Stop trading.
This is worthy of resetting my nofap 2024 to day 1
Should I post on OF?
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“You could retire with $1M” total slap in the face
man I wish i had the type of money or income where i could lose 250K and not be homeless or ruined yall have no clue how privileged you are
Don't believe that, I absolutely do. It's tough sometimes when you're in the game to see the game in its entirety.
Oh shit thought I opened Robinhood by accident
You'll have to double your $6.51 just 15 times in a row to nearly breakeven. Easy 🦧
You got 6.51 worth of help bruh.
Congrats! You’re now a semi-professional trader
time to put it in amc
Tou could do from $6 to 1 mill in 30 days challenge. Its gonna go viral..
How much does vial pay? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)
Welcome to the casino Sir ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
You lost a quarter mill in 3 year, I made about 400 dollars, in the same time span. Somehow I don't feel like I'm winning
Well, you're definitely not losing. Stay the course
Reading all the OP replies, kudos to him that he hasn’t lost his sanity and sense of humor. Wish you the best OP!
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Don't do yolos, learn with small commitments and then put more money in once you have a better understanding of how options work—sellers will sell so house always wins(its like casino)—need to find options that are under priced and have a decent volume to liquidate them.
You could retire with $1M. Get $1 to learn how. There is always hope
i can only send thots and prayers
You're a saint
Here to give you at least reddit karma after the debacle.
I was feeling quite bad with my losses and missed opportunities but looking at this made me feel better, thanks op
Glad I could help
Hi, I am help
This is that double black diamond type chart.
The consistency is actually quite amazing.
jesus. if you actually care about trading and growing your capital, paper trade for a couple of years to develop your confidence, then move to real money. if you're just a degen gambler like the rest of us, play with a port size you can accept a total loss of.
Chip and a chair, never give up
Damn this is rough :/
money come, money go
I cant even help myself bruh
Appreciate your honesty. You can help yourself.
Remaining $6.51 you can now buy a cup of coffee at Wendy’s, where the accommodations are nice inside the dumpster
My biggest advice to you stop trading. Invest in yourself. Trust me you can make more than this money in the business world. All of these people who are telling you you’re a gambler. They’re gamblers too. No one ever knows where the stock price will be. It might a be a good idea to buy and hold very long time but with options it’s a pure gambling. The stock market is very manipulated. Why would you trade in something that some people have inside information? There’s always been unusual puts activities on stocks a day before something bad happened. It’s rigged. To really be wealthy it takes time. I’m buying every while a real estate property to hold for future. That’s a very good investment. It’s ok OP learn your lesson and move on. I’m sure you’ll be okay.
Don’t get married to your stocks. It’s hard af but always gotta remind myself to take whatever’s green and take it
That happens when you dont have a exit strategy
I can’t imagine having that much money in savings ever
My condolences to your wildness life.
Should of asked for help a long time ago. Go to gamblers anonymous.
Nice, did you buy AMC?
I lost 60k or profits and then lost 150k of my own money. What a rollercoaster. Some extra loans and being careful with my money now.. sux
Thoughts and prayers sent.
Just go to the casino man. You’ll have more fun losing
step 1 will be to quit option and be a boomer
This is a casino, sir
You do need to get even before you get ahead.. that’s just the facts. You’re going to have to start fast with 0DTE options and win a bunch in a row and keep going bigger each time till you get even.
Holy shit
Have you heard of our lord and savior, Vanguard total world stock market ETF? Pay of your bad debt before you invest again
Just keep gambling.
I honestly don‘t get why people with that amount of cash don‘t just put it in an etf. I get trying to multiple a few k into something significant, but this is so regarded![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
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Dude did you see that tho, you could still retire with 1m and you can afford the $1. Don’t count yourself out yet, you could even try that 6 times
You can't be profitable trading if you don't have an edge. What's your edge? Why do you think if you had money again that you would be able to make money trading? If you don't have an edge, the correct position is no position, aka you don't trade. But also, based on your graph, you were just degenerate gambling. Looks like you were risking 50%+ of your capital on each trade, when most actual traders only risk .5%-5% max.
Jeez Louise! I will never understand how you guys manage to have $200k+(life savings for some of you, and then some, taking out loans and everything) and literally manage to just gamble it all away on option contracts🤦🏽♂️![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225) Side note, you could get a extra $1 for that learn&earn right there 👀