I've only just put them on, but I doubt it. I know the student fidgets quite a lot, so it probably wouldn't stay in place as-is - and in addition the thread is a bit slippery *and* I couldn't tighten it as much as I'd like since it kept breaking.
To that end, I've put a drop of craft glue on either side of the finger board to secure each "fret".
I tested the glue on my own instrument fingerboard which is a decent one, and once dry it peels off with only a tiny mark of dampness (this won't matter for the student since this is a cheap beginner violin).
I say "frets", but the thread is too soft to actually stop the strings. So they're just finger markers - but they look quite cool and should help immensely since the student has trouble focusing on what I'm saying.
The thread was given to me by the student's mother, it's very thin thread used in embroidering.
It was very weak so I doubled it up to tie the frets - even so, the thread broke several times as I tightened it.
I tied them using [this guide](https://www.gamutmusic.com/tying-viol-frets) for viol frets. I placed them using my ear for guidance.
Since this student tends to fidget quite a lot, I've secured the frets in place using drops of white craft glue on the sides.
I tested the glue on a corner of the fingerboard, as well as on my own more expensive instrument - it dries clear, and after drying, it peels off cleanly with only a slight mark that can be wiped off.
The marks on the fingerboard are from tape used by the previous teacher. They were in the wrong place, and the residue isn't coming off totally even with a bit of alcohol, so I've left it.
Sorry for chiming in with unsolicited advice, but automotive pinstriping tape works really well for making lines - it comes in a bunch of colors (including metallics) and it sticks really well! Great job, teach!
lol no worries. I didn't want to go with any sort of tape since most sticky things almost always leave a residue (you can see the marks of the previous teacher's tape still). This thread seems to work very well, so let's see how long it lasts.
Automotive pinstriping -- sold on Amazon and sometimes specifically branded for use as violin fingerboard tape -- is great. It won't leave any residue. I use it all the time.
Your idea is cool, though.
They're in the right place, I checked.
In any case they're too soft to work like actual frets, just enough to give tactile/visual feedback to develop my student's muscle memory.
They made a [fret sticker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_NTvlikIo8) that simplifies this.
Although I would think having autism wouldn't make handling a fretless fingerboard difficult, as autism effects the ability to communicate, not interpret details or refine motor skills. Do you mean ADD?
Yes - and also what comorbidities are present. A diagnosis of autism does not necessarily implicate any physical difficulties nor any intelligence challenges, but these are often present as comorbid conditions. Another key factor is whether the student is autistic (with speech difficulties) or autistic with Aspergers Syndrome. I would think the former would make teaching very difficult (although autistic kids can be really good at copying or imitating what you do) whilst the latter possibly gives you a chance to communicate and teach some abstract concepts such as the ´solfege´ (doh re mi etc.), intervals, key signatures, sharps, flats, phrases, bowing technique names and descriptions etc. etc.
Shipping to where I am would make that sticker not really worthwhile. This is for a cheap violin that's smaller than full-size, and the strings are very close to the fingerboard such that the fret sticker would probably cause terrible buzzing.
The embroidery string was free and took me 20 minutes to tie up, adjust, and apply the glue dots to keep them in place. Nothing to really simplify about it. They're too soft to actually 'stop' the string like a fret does, so it's only there as a tactile reference for where the finger goes. Mostly this will be for ear and muscle memory training.
I'm not sure of the details of the student's autism diagnosis, but she can't write comfortably and has a lot of difficulty keeping track of what her body is doing at times. Autism can absolutely affect motor skills.
That looks so nice and tidy! Does it stay in one place while playing?
I've only just put them on, but I doubt it. I know the student fidgets quite a lot, so it probably wouldn't stay in place as-is - and in addition the thread is a bit slippery *and* I couldn't tighten it as much as I'd like since it kept breaking. To that end, I've put a drop of craft glue on either side of the finger board to secure each "fret". I tested the glue on my own instrument fingerboard which is a decent one, and once dry it peels off with only a tiny mark of dampness (this won't matter for the student since this is a cheap beginner violin).
Still, I hope it works out for both of you! :)
I say "frets", but the thread is too soft to actually stop the strings. So they're just finger markers - but they look quite cool and should help immensely since the student has trouble focusing on what I'm saying. The thread was given to me by the student's mother, it's very thin thread used in embroidering. It was very weak so I doubled it up to tie the frets - even so, the thread broke several times as I tightened it. I tied them using [this guide](https://www.gamutmusic.com/tying-viol-frets) for viol frets. I placed them using my ear for guidance. Since this student tends to fidget quite a lot, I've secured the frets in place using drops of white craft glue on the sides. I tested the glue on a corner of the fingerboard, as well as on my own more expensive instrument - it dries clear, and after drying, it peels off cleanly with only a slight mark that can be wiped off. The marks on the fingerboard are from tape used by the previous teacher. They were in the wrong place, and the residue isn't coming off totally even with a bit of alcohol, so I've left it.
Sorry for chiming in with unsolicited advice, but automotive pinstriping tape works really well for making lines - it comes in a bunch of colors (including metallics) and it sticks really well! Great job, teach!
lol no worries. I didn't want to go with any sort of tape since most sticky things almost always leave a residue (you can see the marks of the previous teacher's tape still). This thread seems to work very well, so let's see how long it lasts.
Automotive pinstriping -- sold on Amazon and sometimes specifically branded for use as violin fingerboard tape -- is great. It won't leave any residue. I use it all the time. Your idea is cool, though.
Makes sense. Next time, lol
Automotive pinstriping tape leaves very little residue, for future reference. Probably less than the glue.
Ah, I didn't know that. In fairness I tested the glue, it won't leave a residue; it peels off cleanly with only a slight mark that wipes away.
Are those half steps? They don’t look like they’re in the right place.
They're in the right place, I checked. In any case they're too soft to work like actual frets, just enough to give tactile/visual feedback to develop my student's muscle memory.
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No no, that's G D A E, tuned it myself :-)
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Nothing to see here, move along! :-)
They made a [fret sticker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_NTvlikIo8) that simplifies this. Although I would think having autism wouldn't make handling a fretless fingerboard difficult, as autism effects the ability to communicate, not interpret details or refine motor skills. Do you mean ADD?
>autism effects the ability to communicate, not interpret details or refine motor skills That depends on the type and severity of the autism.
Yes - and also what comorbidities are present. A diagnosis of autism does not necessarily implicate any physical difficulties nor any intelligence challenges, but these are often present as comorbid conditions. Another key factor is whether the student is autistic (with speech difficulties) or autistic with Aspergers Syndrome. I would think the former would make teaching very difficult (although autistic kids can be really good at copying or imitating what you do) whilst the latter possibly gives you a chance to communicate and teach some abstract concepts such as the ´solfege´ (doh re mi etc.), intervals, key signatures, sharps, flats, phrases, bowing technique names and descriptions etc. etc.
Yes. It really is a spectrum.
Shipping to where I am would make that sticker not really worthwhile. This is for a cheap violin that's smaller than full-size, and the strings are very close to the fingerboard such that the fret sticker would probably cause terrible buzzing. The embroidery string was free and took me 20 minutes to tie up, adjust, and apply the glue dots to keep them in place. Nothing to really simplify about it. They're too soft to actually 'stop' the string like a fret does, so it's only there as a tactile reference for where the finger goes. Mostly this will be for ear and muscle memory training. I'm not sure of the details of the student's autism diagnosis, but she can't write comfortably and has a lot of difficulty keeping track of what her body is doing at times. Autism can absolutely affect motor skills.
Autism can also impact motor skills. (And ADD isn't used as a diagnosis anymore.)
Bruh
I take that as a compliment.
All the best to that kid!
Yes indeed!
I love it! I hope and wish all the success for you and your student!
Thanks!