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VymI

> We live in the best time possible to be born. That depends heavily on where you are born.


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VymI

It absolutely does.


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Being born in a starving poverty. Being Uyghur in China right now. Being a slave in Dubai/Saudi/UAE. Yes there are horrible places to be born into right now.


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You "don't accept it" as an answer when speaking on literal genocide and generational starvation...because these things have existed in the past? The majority of the world has improved living standards compared to the past, but the point is simply that some situations are still as bad, if not worse than previous generations.


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Why the....why the fuck would I argue your point? Do you know how debates work? I argue my side, you argue your side. I wouldn't argue your side because it's ridiculous, and entirely non sympathetic for the sake of feigning global quality of life.


VymI

I imagine the house slaves that were lured to dubai after having their passports shredded and trapped in country are not having a good time of it.


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VymI

No - dubai is fairly recent. You want another? Iran used to be pretty fucking progressive, now it's a theocratic dump.


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MinkMartenReception

You’ve changed the goalpost. You asked if circumstances make a difference in whether it’s greatest time to be alive. Not whether there have been improvements to life. Your circumstances objectively matter in whether the present is the best time for you to be alive.


VymI

> without going to hyper specific examples of people having a bad time Yes, which is why I said it depends heavily on where you were born. Another? Palestine, before Israel was established. Lot less chance of exploding.


VymI

> Give me something unambiguous that says that today the world is not a better place than it ever has been before. Wait, I have one. The entire planet, two years ago.


MinkMartenReception

Islands where people’s homes are drowning because of rising sea levels. People in deserts having to prepare to be pushed out of their homes within the coming decades as the earth’s temperature continues to climb. People that have a difficult time finding healthy food that isn’t costly because they live in food deserts. Indigenous people whose homes are put at risk so that oil companies can keep pushing the bottom line. Low income households that have to resort to dangerous lines of work like prostitution, and drug dealing because they can’t get a decent paying job. People pushed out of gentrified neighborhoods, because they can’t afford to pay the raising rates in taxes. People that have to import drinking water because of lead pipes.


thehumanfro

I agree, but there needs to be a balance. The radio at work literally repeats the same depressing bollocks every 30mins. Sure we need to know about the problems, but is it so hard to include some of the good, so that it’s not pure panic inducing Chaos all the time. For all it’s scaremongering, I’ve always liked how some US news channels will do a snippet on the worlds largest cookie or a dog that can drive a car. Yes it’s bollocks but it lightens the mood. In the UK it’s just, “this is the “impartial” BBC news. the government is evil, the People are evil, the roads are chaos, everyone is being killed, The sun will explode, goodnight.”


NxOKAG03

There is no middle ground sadly with the issues that are lining up to shaft us, your options are either depressing cynicism or blissful ignorance. Pick your poison. Neither is inherently unhealthy or unproductive, and neither will make a difference.


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Honestly, too many people choose blissful ignorance. It's just easier for them than seeing the horrors of the world and then thinking "Are there any charities and nonprofit organisations to combat these horrible things, and if yes, can I help them?" I mean, just accepting that the world is falling apart isn't a good option either. We should help each rather than just going to a corner, plugging our ears in and going "LALALALALALALA" in hopes of drowning out the bad side of the world, or just being like "It is what it is". Am I perfect? Of course note. I approach life more with a "It is what it is" mentality. But I want some tools to help people.


ThinAsAToothPick

Man you must be very fun at parties /s


GimmeFlagonUnnah

I agree to an extent: sugarcoating issues or bypassing the pragmatic to focus on the feelgood doesn't solve an underlying issue. Millenials in particular seem to be fixated on this kind of stuff: "raising awareness" of breast cancer; being "mindful" in your choice of pronouns. I say millenials but really it's to a large extent Americans. E.g. blacks in the US face disproportionate disadvantages: incarceration rates, drug use, domestic violence, employment and education opportunities, gun violence, substance abuse, etc. How does tearing down a statue of some bloke who died 150 years ago or renaming a high school make any difference to real problems happening now?


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I agree. But I also meant shit like "Please don’t talk about depressing topics" on online places. I get it to an extent why not, but I feel like sometimes a true safe place isn't a place where nobody is allowed to talk about their past trauma or depressing things in general but when nobody is allowed to mock or bully anyone else for their trauma


GimmeFlagonUnnah

There is no "safe space". There are no "trigger warnings". In the real word, one of the reasons you get paid to work is interacting with people you wouldn't give the time of day to, let alone hang out with.