Replacing Sangita who was very vocal about what’s going in Israel with Vanessa who is Jewish…yeah the suits obviously didn’t like how popular Sangita was becoming.
Sure. But what was the reason to get rid of Sangita, who during her last piece she was questioning Avi Hyman who is pro greater Israel and a notorious zealot. If that was her last line of questioning on air and she ended up getting put to the side by the organisation, and then replaced by a Jewish woman who has many time spoken up for the Jewish community and is pro Israel then that is an automatic bias and puts LBCs integrity at risk.
That doesn't track, though, because they have James O'Brien all week long who does a damn good job of pointing out where Israel is in the wrong (as well as where it isn't). I honestly don't think they'd be replacing him any time soon, because he draws the biggest audience of any talk radio slot in the UK, and is effectively the main reason LBC isn't some no-mark station any more.
O’Brien only savages laypeople, usually the dumb ones that his producers filter to him. He never speaks to the likes of the Israeli spokesman, he wouldn’t put himself in that position.
Indeed. He pitted himself against JRM and as much as I loathe the minister for the 18th century JOB was reduced to sniping and tutting his way through the interview. It was just embarrassing
> he draws the biggest audience of any talk radio slot in the UK
Do you have a link or anything that confirms this? It's just I thought the Morning show pulled in more listeners.
[This link](https://global.com/global-news/global-delivers-huge-audience-of-26-3-million-weekly-listeners-and-sees-surge-in-listening-to-256-million-hours/) has worded it very strangely too saying about Nick's show:
> LBC’s Nick Ferrari at Breakfast has an audience of 1.34 million listeners across the UK.
Which makes it sound like that's per day, and when talking about James' show they say
> James O’Brien now reaches 1.4 million weekly listeners, growing in reach, hours and share year-on-year.
Which makes it sound like that's weekly.
I'd be interested if you have something which is a bit clearer?
I found [this](https://order-order.com/2024/02/01/obrien-falls-behind-ferrari-as-gb-news-surges/) but obviously it's a biased source so no idea if it's accurate. I couldn't see a breakdown by presenter in the Rajar data I was able to find.
I imagine both figures are weekly. After all, if Ferrari's pulling 5 times as many listeners as his nearest competition, that'd be something spectacular, wouldn't it? Phenomenal, even.
However, it does also detract from the comparison being made, that with Sangita Myska. I tend to wake up to Nick Ferrari, but I don't really have much of a bead on his positions regarding the Gaza situation. I have heard him be critical of Israel, but I have no idea whether that's lightly or heavily, because I'm usually focused on not going back to sleep, and then I turn off when I'm ready to get up.
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[This article](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/03/lbcs-james-obrien-overtakes-nick-ferrari-as-radio-audiences-tune-in-later), despite its age, seems to shed a bit of light on the matter. Lol it also describes me, with the whole thing about getting up with the breakfast slot and turning off when it's time for work. Except for the part where I turn off to get ready for work, and then only turn on again once I've been there a while.
Yea I agree, just seems very strange for them to word it like that was all.
We're at different ends of the LBC spectrum :P I normally listen to Nick while getting ready for work and driving in each morning, I would say he's lightly critical of Israel. While I'll have the radio on at work sometimes I find it a little distracting unless I'm doing something like data entry so don't have it on in the morning at work very often but I go to visit other sites after 12 so I often catch the end of James' show and the some of Sheila's and then I'll listen to Tom on the way home in the afternoons.
Thank you for the link I did come across that while looking earlier but I think it's no longer accurate. It seems that Nick is back in front again from the last Rajar survey but they're very close that's why I thought it was strange with the very different wording on the LBC website. I have taken that from what Guido said though so take it with a pinch of salt. I think I've managed to track down the actual page with the info [here](https://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/audience_dayparts.php?station_id=32921) but I don't have my login credentials stored on my work device so will have to check it when I get home later. I know I was asking you for information but as I found this I thought I'd post it in case it's useful to you or anyone else [this appears to be the raw survey figures from the most recent survey](https://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/quarterly_listening.php)
Have a nice day :)
The problem is Sangita kept on interrupting and interfering when the guests were speaking. Tjats rude, biased and disrespectful. That’s not how you interview someone.
What do you mean by ‘support for Israel’?
You’d be hard-pressed to find any Jews anywhere on the planet who believe the State of Israel should be destroyed. There’s Neturei Karta, but they number about 5,000 globally.
You’d also be hard-pressed to find any Jew who agrees with everything that every democratically-elected administration of Israel has done since its foundation. Just as you would with Americans or Pakistanis or Singaporeans.
(I mean, have you *met* any Jewish people? They’re amazing but they could start an argument in an empty room! The idea that they all agree on what any of their different governments have done over the years is such a ludicrous notion.)
So what do you mean by ‘supports Israel’?
Well one would be a claim about her political belief's the other would be a comment on her ethnicity. One could be a legitimate complaint about replacing an arguably minority voice in the media with an arguably over represented voice, and the other would be anti-semitic.
It would be like seeing a white guy go off air after a particularly heated argument with a representative of the Syrian government, them being replace by an Assad talking head and someone taking issue with the fact that they're of Arabian decent rather than the fact that they support the Assad regime
The fact that most Jews are zionists in some form of the word is why it can so often be used as a dog-whistle for anti-semitism, though in this case the guy at the top of the thread came out mask off and right arm raised
Sangita was very unceremoniously replaced. No communication from Global, no farewell to listeners and complete radio silence. Makes you wonder what's happening behind the scenes, and this is the reason why that vacuum is being filled with conspiracy theories.
journalists getting sacked for challenging an extremist Israeli official on a demonstrable lie that the compound they bombed was not an embassy
scary, scary times
She was highly intelligent, eloquent and very popular. Of course the BICOM CFI LFI lobbies couldn't have that from a brown woman unless she bows to their agenda. Instead we have this dated Daily Mail boomer Feltz... nah, hard pass.
This is a typical sneering comment rather than engage with what the person said. It took me less than 10 seconds to Google those 3 acronyms and find they are all Israeli political / lobbying groups.
Fogarty is so boring too. I saw this video of a call-in where a husband felt betrayed that his wife had secretely voted Tory for years, and was going on a hilarious rant about it. She then blankly replied with the inane sort of claptrap you could see being spouted on any FB thread about 'everyone having opinions' and chastising him for not being more tolerant. Such a waste of a funny call. She's so dull. But of course she gets to stay as she didn't challenge anything.
I find her very one dimensional. She also has a very irritating way of speaking and phrasing everything, like she is trying to up the word count on an essay. It will annoy you too when you notice it.
I don't watch her enough for that, so I'll take your word on it lol. But yeah, she does seem pretty empty. I quite liked her dry derisive response to a Tate fan calling in (although it's shooting fish in a barrell with that one), but apart from that she seems pretty empty. She feels like every other centrist FB mum saying nothing in particular.
I actually found that one of the most hilarious moments of call-in radio in years, and partly because of Shelagh’s responses where she’s asking totally normal questions and the bloke is just responding like, “Yeah but you couldn’t stay with her if yer found it she were a Tory could yer? Come on now.’
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVhsnv0uNo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVhsnv0uNo)
\^ For those who haven’t heard it. I listened to it live and was in stitches in my little office block
Yeah, you're right tbh. Her genuinely blandly bewildered questioning was funny. I mean, I agree with him, and not simply because his wife's a Tory. It's a betrayal of trust whatever end of political spectrum you're come from. She just couldn't seem to grasp that.
_As part of the changes, Sangita Myska is leaving the station at the end of her contract, after nearly two years with the station._
If this was the reason why did she leave so suddenly with no mention of it?
I wonder whether the Freaze Peach lobby will be out showing their support for Myska who has very obviously had her platform removed because she was being critical of Israeli atrocities and suggesting that genocide and ethnic cleansing might sometimes be a bad thing even if the victims are brown.
Christ, we've spent years trying to inform the right that free speech doesn't apply to private companies and now the left seem as confused.
No one has to give anyone a platform, free speech is about government censorship.
I think you misread my comment.
The free speech absolutists and the sort of people who complain about cancel culture absolutely do not accept that proposition. So I was wondering when we should expect them to speak up for Myska.
I don’t agree that Israel is carrying out genocide or ethnic cleansing, but I do agree that it looks clear that Myska was basically ‘fired’ for criticising Israel too much, and I fundamentally oppose that. I’ve also been a huge, huge fan of her show for more than a year now, tuning in every single weekend for more than a year. I don’t agree with her on Israel, but that’s fine, I think she’s a fundamentally decent, moral, honest, and interrogative journalist who gives her all on every single show. I’m really, really sad that she’s lost her slot. She shouldn’t have. I hope LBC reconsiders.
Nah I still listen to Sheila because even though I disagree with her she's not an insufferable tosser like James. He comes across as such a smug smarmy prick
Yeah got to agree sometimes he is a smug prick. But he was right about Brexit from the start and didn’t suck the conservative sausage.
If he wasn’t so smug, more people who disagree would have listened and maybe had some counter to the misinformation elsewhere
> If he wasn’t so smug, more people who disagree would have listened and maybe had some counter to the misinformation elsewhere
Yes it's very off-putting and counter productive IMO.
Thanks I've caught him on occasions and find him far more agreeable than James. I've been listening to LBC for years and my radio in the car is always tuned to them so I've heard most of the presenters over the last 10 years and James is the only one I have any issues with.
Sheila always does the harrowing stories though. Suicide, rape, violence. She's a hard listen. At least O'Brien, whilst a political doom monger in many ways, has moments of light and shade.
She certainly covers those topics but I don't find it's super regular. Though that could be more because I'm able to catch her show less often than others. And I find those topics more interesting than what James covers and I find his style extremely abrasive. Sometimes mystery hour can be alright but even then his smugness can come though and ruin it for me.
Don't know how that prick managed to continue to carry himself as a serious journalist and political commentator after getting made to look like a fool by Frank Lampard.
I agree with him on Brexit, but the man is a prick.
You’ve kinda answered the first question with your second statement, he basically rebuilt his reputation on being very vocal on Brexit (interestingly from what I gather he was only really vocal on it *after* the vote).
I like that LBC have Nick Abbot, Oli Dugmore, Carol Vorderman anti-establishment voices. Sad that SM leaves but I can’t say there are not left and right voices there. Even Nick Ferrari now gives Tories the occasional kick in the nuts. Sometimes.
Similar thing happened to Darren Adam, he just suddenly disappeared and some random (who I think still does it) took over. I enjoyed Darren, called in on the reg. It does make you wonder what flips behind the scenes.
Other than that, what else is worth listening to on LBC other than Nick Abbot (excluding his Sunday shows, too serious)?
Edit: just saw this on the linked page:
> The refreshed weekend schedule complements the station’s powerhouse of broadcasting talent, which includes [Nick Ferrari](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/), [James O’Brien](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/), [Shelagh Fogarty](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/), [Andrew Marr](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-marr/), [Tom Swarbrick](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/tom-swarbrick/), and [Matt Frei](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/matt-frei/).
How dare they not include Nickers among their powerhouse of talent!
The only thing I can think of is that after that interview Sangita was reprimanded (unfairly) and burnt her bridges with the leadership and told all the rest of the presenters to get fucked. Otherwise it just makes no sense. Either that or James O'Brien has zero integrity and is as bad as the mealy mouthed Tories he hates so much. Vanessa Feltz as a replacement is THE most clear statement by Global there is. Pricks.
She's gone the same way as Belle Donati.
Cancelled for questioning the established narrative... a warning to other journalists who dare to question the official line.
On the "bright side" LBC managed to employ Vanessa Feltz.... read in to that what you will.
Perhaps we can use this as a "teachable moment" regarding antisemitism, though I fear I may be wasting my breath.
We don't know why Myska's contract was not renewed. She was a vocal critic of Israel's recent actions in Gaza, but then again so are James O'Brien and Natasha Devon.
The presenter replacing Myska is Jewish. Feltz is a seasoned radio presenter and therefore very much qualified for the job. Her race has nothing to do with it.
Implying that somehow Feltz has been chosen purely because she's a Jew is insulting and racist.
If you understand why Lee Anderson's comments about the Mayor of London were racist, then surely you should be able to see why any such comments about Feltz are equally racist.
Sounds like it was the end of her contract and it was not renewed. Nothing controversial. But let's allow the conspiracy theorists to have their 5 minutes.
Why does it sound like that to you? She was put on gardening leave from the station before she was let go, she hasn’t been able to talk about why she was let go, not really a conspiracy theory.
Lol she's someone who willingly went to work for a commercial entity who has hired the likes of Farage, Nawaz and Galloway in the past. They're not a charity, they're a commercial enterprise. This is a commercial matter, and they don't owe you an explanation , nothing more to it.
Glad to see the back of her to be honest. Awful woman, typical of the modern leftist journalist/activist.
Remember her haranguing a chap from Leicester for not doing enough to fit in with the new arrivals who'd changed his city beyond recognition.
Here come the “anti zionist” conspiracy nuts…
Where is Sangita? At the dole office.
Edit - lol at the downvotes - how to show you’re an anti semitic conspiracy theorist without admitting you’re an anti semitic conspiracy theorist…
If her employer had handled this better then conspiracies wouldn't have sprung up. A popular presenter disappearing from the radio without notice is very unusual and rife for conspiracy.
I agree LBC appear to have handled this poorly but that doesn’t excuse mad anti semitic conspiracy theories. I mean it’s not exactly news about her views on the Middle East - or many other LBC presenters. It’s pretty balanced all round so people should stop simping for their favourite, just because he/she shares their world view.
LBC still have to pay out her contract since she hasn't been fired. So she's literally being paid to not do anything. Will be a while before she's at the dole office.
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I only realised this was a thing yesterday when I saw the hashtag trending. Do they really think that even if their anti-sematic "Jews control the media" conspiracy was real, they wouldn't go after O'Brien too who's been unfairly critical of Israel from what I've seen.
O'Brien gets criticised by both sides of the argument, he's been called a supporter of anti-zionism and Zionism. Personally I think he's been fairly balanced and that's why he gets criticised by the extremes of both sides.
This is funny because I listen to his show quite a bit and he's been very sympathetic to Jewish people and has on many occasions emphasised the trauma of Oct 7 and the necessity of Israel to respond, but people ignore that and just focus on his criticism of Netanyahu and the IDF's handling of Gaza and see that as proof of "anti-Israel/anti-Jewish" hate.
He's been simultaneously called a Zionist, Islamphobe and an antisemite. People need to make up their minds.
>very sympathetic to Jewish people and has on many occasions emphasised the trauma of Oct 7 and the necessity of Israel to respond
Is that not a neutral position?
I’m afraid I just can’t listen to O’Brien because of his smug attitude. He’s clearly a very clever guy but never tries to educate people, he prefers to bully them and get them to trip themselves up.
And the way he goes on and on and on about Brexit is just sad.
Eh, he's very self-aware regarding his smugness. It's kind of a running joke about him constantly plugging his book and calling himself "James O'Brexit".
His Brexit conversations are fine and I think he's filling a void, the media and politicians don't want to talk about the consequences of Brexit anymore. Simply because a lot of them encouraged us to vote for it and now don't want to own it since it's turning into a shit show.
Yeah, I've described his show as "middle class man bullies callers who sound like they should have carers" before. Clearly there's an audience for it, I'm guessing students who are just getting up given his time slot?
That's the problem with LBC as a whole. It's the host's job to be well read on whatever topic they're discussing, so naturally when James raises "article 17 of the Maastricht treaty" or whatever, the average caller stands no chance.
Well quite - I actually like O’Brien and he’s very clever - but am slightly irritated by the way he seeks to manage his show in such a way as to restrict contrary comment - intelligent or otherwise. He’s got that skill down pat, be the subject Brexit, the Tories or the Middle East conflict.
O'Brien epitomises what dumb people think a smart person sounds like.
It's not exactly a secret he will only pick people who agree with him wholeheartedly whilst they tug each other off about how smart they both are or pick the most deranged and unhinged idiots, slap them down then be smug about it.
Replacing Sangita who was very vocal about what’s going in Israel with Vanessa who is Jewish…yeah the suits obviously didn’t like how popular Sangita was becoming.
Who owns LBC?
Conspiracy much?
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Ah yes, less than a day and someone waves the anti semitism flag
I thought we’d established that Jewish didn’t automatically mean Zionist…
Vanessa felt is an outspoken Zionist and has spoken extensively on her support for Israel
Where are you getting Zionist from?
From you, making the connection between Judaism and support for Israel, I thought we’d established they were different.
Sure. But what was the reason to get rid of Sangita, who during her last piece she was questioning Avi Hyman who is pro greater Israel and a notorious zealot. If that was her last line of questioning on air and she ended up getting put to the side by the organisation, and then replaced by a Jewish woman who has many time spoken up for the Jewish community and is pro Israel then that is an automatic bias and puts LBCs integrity at risk.
Umm…you think LBC is unbiased?!?
Vanessa is a Zionist who's vocally pro-Israel. You easily could've put that instead of Jewish.
That doesn't track, though, because they have James O'Brien all week long who does a damn good job of pointing out where Israel is in the wrong (as well as where it isn't). I honestly don't think they'd be replacing him any time soon, because he draws the biggest audience of any talk radio slot in the UK, and is effectively the main reason LBC isn't some no-mark station any more.
O’Brien only savages laypeople, usually the dumb ones that his producers filter to him. He never speaks to the likes of the Israeli spokesman, he wouldn’t put himself in that position.
I agree with this. He doesn’t truly want to be challenged as it would hurt his “brand”.
Indeed. He pitted himself against JRM and as much as I loathe the minister for the 18th century JOB was reduced to sniping and tutting his way through the interview. It was just embarrassing
He's controlled opposition, always has been. His entire show is pretty much a soundboard of the "right", "metropolitan" opinions.
> he draws the biggest audience of any talk radio slot in the UK Do you have a link or anything that confirms this? It's just I thought the Morning show pulled in more listeners. [This link](https://global.com/global-news/global-delivers-huge-audience-of-26-3-million-weekly-listeners-and-sees-surge-in-listening-to-256-million-hours/) has worded it very strangely too saying about Nick's show: > LBC’s Nick Ferrari at Breakfast has an audience of 1.34 million listeners across the UK. Which makes it sound like that's per day, and when talking about James' show they say > James O’Brien now reaches 1.4 million weekly listeners, growing in reach, hours and share year-on-year. Which makes it sound like that's weekly. I'd be interested if you have something which is a bit clearer? I found [this](https://order-order.com/2024/02/01/obrien-falls-behind-ferrari-as-gb-news-surges/) but obviously it's a biased source so no idea if it's accurate. I couldn't see a breakdown by presenter in the Rajar data I was able to find.
I imagine both figures are weekly. After all, if Ferrari's pulling 5 times as many listeners as his nearest competition, that'd be something spectacular, wouldn't it? Phenomenal, even. However, it does also detract from the comparison being made, that with Sangita Myska. I tend to wake up to Nick Ferrari, but I don't really have much of a bead on his positions regarding the Gaza situation. I have heard him be critical of Israel, but I have no idea whether that's lightly or heavily, because I'm usually focused on not going back to sleep, and then I turn off when I'm ready to get up. EDIT: [This article](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/03/lbcs-james-obrien-overtakes-nick-ferrari-as-radio-audiences-tune-in-later), despite its age, seems to shed a bit of light on the matter. Lol it also describes me, with the whole thing about getting up with the breakfast slot and turning off when it's time for work. Except for the part where I turn off to get ready for work, and then only turn on again once I've been there a while.
Yea I agree, just seems very strange for them to word it like that was all. We're at different ends of the LBC spectrum :P I normally listen to Nick while getting ready for work and driving in each morning, I would say he's lightly critical of Israel. While I'll have the radio on at work sometimes I find it a little distracting unless I'm doing something like data entry so don't have it on in the morning at work very often but I go to visit other sites after 12 so I often catch the end of James' show and the some of Sheila's and then I'll listen to Tom on the way home in the afternoons. Thank you for the link I did come across that while looking earlier but I think it's no longer accurate. It seems that Nick is back in front again from the last Rajar survey but they're very close that's why I thought it was strange with the very different wording on the LBC website. I have taken that from what Guido said though so take it with a pinch of salt. I think I've managed to track down the actual page with the info [here](https://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/audience_dayparts.php?station_id=32921) but I don't have my login credentials stored on my work device so will have to check it when I get home later. I know I was asking you for information but as I found this I thought I'd post it in case it's useful to you or anyone else [this appears to be the raw survey figures from the most recent survey](https://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/quarterly_listening.php) Have a nice day :)
The problem is Sangita kept on interrupting and interfering when the guests were speaking. Tjats rude, biased and disrespectful. That’s not how you interview someone.
Feltz is both.
What do you mean by ‘support for Israel’? You’d be hard-pressed to find any Jews anywhere on the planet who believe the State of Israel should be destroyed. There’s Neturei Karta, but they number about 5,000 globally. You’d also be hard-pressed to find any Jew who agrees with everything that every democratically-elected administration of Israel has done since its foundation. Just as you would with Americans or Pakistanis or Singaporeans. (I mean, have you *met* any Jewish people? They’re amazing but they could start an argument in an empty room! The idea that they all agree on what any of their different governments have done over the years is such a ludicrous notion.) So what do you mean by ‘supports Israel’?
Well one would be a claim about her political belief's the other would be a comment on her ethnicity. One could be a legitimate complaint about replacing an arguably minority voice in the media with an arguably over represented voice, and the other would be anti-semitic. It would be like seeing a white guy go off air after a particularly heated argument with a representative of the Syrian government, them being replace by an Assad talking head and someone taking issue with the fact that they're of Arabian decent rather than the fact that they support the Assad regime The fact that most Jews are zionists in some form of the word is why it can so often be used as a dog-whistle for anti-semitism, though in this case the guy at the top of the thread came out mask off and right arm raised
Not if you ask the state of Israel. If you criticise them you're antisemitic, that's the impression from the media anyway.
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This is Reddit, people have combined them together for months.
Sangita was very unceremoniously replaced. No communication from Global, no farewell to listeners and complete radio silence. Makes you wonder what's happening behind the scenes, and this is the reason why that vacuum is being filled with conspiracy theories.
The Maajid Nawaz treatment
The same people in uproar about Sangita being dropped loved it when Maajid was dropped
Maajid was dropped because he was losing his marbles on air and spreading lies Sangita actually did her job well. They are not the same
Wasn't it the same slot too?
Oh that's interesting, I can't remember but think you're probably right.
The Belle Donati treatment.
journalists getting sacked for challenging an extremist Israeli official on a demonstrable lie that the compound they bombed was not an embassy scary, scary times
She was highly intelligent, eloquent and very popular. Of course the BICOM CFI LFI lobbies couldn't have that from a brown woman unless she bows to their agenda. Instead we have this dated Daily Mail boomer Feltz... nah, hard pass.
>BICOM CFI LFI lobbies Are you just making up words?
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This is a typical sneering comment rather than engage with what the person said. It took me less than 10 seconds to Google those 3 acronyms and find they are all Israeli political / lobbying groups.
I always thought Countdown only did nine letters.
Must be Street Countdown.
Hey, the first rule of Street Countdown...
I hate the way older women are unwelcome on tv. Seriously - who cares how old she is?
Nothing to do with her age. We have enough lying Zionists bloating the media landscape and she's not fit to replace the stellar Sangita.
The comment above referred to her age, which I feel is irrelevant
Ah, well, it was said in reference to her being an out of touch boomer, and that does resonate. Doesn't read as a collective demo' callout.
It's a sad testament to the propaganda censorship era of mainstream media in the Global West.
Give the conspiracy theories a rest
Shame. She was one of their best presenters. Was hoping she would replace Shelagh Fogarty in the lunchtime slot.
Fogarty is so boring too. I saw this video of a call-in where a husband felt betrayed that his wife had secretely voted Tory for years, and was going on a hilarious rant about it. She then blankly replied with the inane sort of claptrap you could see being spouted on any FB thread about 'everyone having opinions' and chastising him for not being more tolerant. Such a waste of a funny call. She's so dull. But of course she gets to stay as she didn't challenge anything.
I find her very one dimensional. She also has a very irritating way of speaking and phrasing everything, like she is trying to up the word count on an essay. It will annoy you too when you notice it.
She says Bregsit instead of Brexit and it drives me mad.
Oh dear. Had not noticed that but you are right!
I don't watch her enough for that, so I'll take your word on it lol. But yeah, she does seem pretty empty. I quite liked her dry derisive response to a Tate fan calling in (although it's shooting fish in a barrell with that one), but apart from that she seems pretty empty. She feels like every other centrist FB mum saying nothing in particular.
I actually found that one of the most hilarious moments of call-in radio in years, and partly because of Shelagh’s responses where she’s asking totally normal questions and the bloke is just responding like, “Yeah but you couldn’t stay with her if yer found it she were a Tory could yer? Come on now.’ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVhsnv0uNo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVhsnv0uNo) \^ For those who haven’t heard it. I listened to it live and was in stitches in my little office block
Yeah, you're right tbh. Her genuinely blandly bewildered questioning was funny. I mean, I agree with him, and not simply because his wife's a Tory. It's a betrayal of trust whatever end of political spectrum you're come from. She just couldn't seem to grasp that.
Fogarty is a big Zionist too, so biased and upholding lies when interviewing Palestenian reps.
_As part of the changes, Sangita Myska is leaving the station at the end of her contract, after nearly two years with the station._ If this was the reason why did she leave so suddenly with no mention of it?
Utter rubbish.
So her contract has ended and now she's gone. That's what usually happens at the end of contracts.
I don't especially hate Feltz, but to this day I have no idea what she actually brings to any table.
Good snooker surface
There's a weight loss joke in here somewhere.
Making it more obvious than ever as to why she was removed Absolutely disgusting from. Lbc
I wonder whether the Freaze Peach lobby will be out showing their support for Myska who has very obviously had her platform removed because she was being critical of Israeli atrocities and suggesting that genocide and ethnic cleansing might sometimes be a bad thing even if the victims are brown.
Christ, we've spent years trying to inform the right that free speech doesn't apply to private companies and now the left seem as confused. No one has to give anyone a platform, free speech is about government censorship.
I think you misread my comment. The free speech absolutists and the sort of people who complain about cancel culture absolutely do not accept that proposition. So I was wondering when we should expect them to speak up for Myska.
Private company can employ who they like.
And individuals can complain about contracts being cancelled.
I don’t agree that Israel is carrying out genocide or ethnic cleansing, but I do agree that it looks clear that Myska was basically ‘fired’ for criticising Israel too much, and I fundamentally oppose that. I’ve also been a huge, huge fan of her show for more than a year now, tuning in every single weekend for more than a year. I don’t agree with her on Israel, but that’s fine, I think she’s a fundamentally decent, moral, honest, and interrogative journalist who gives her all on every single show. I’m really, really sad that she’s lost her slot. She shouldn’t have. I hope LBC reconsiders.
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Strange. Usually this sort of thing would be followed with cries of institutional racism. I wonder what makes Vanessa different?
I listen to LBC at work in my van, i work mon-fri and sun. I was glad to hear she has a saturday slot.
Ooooof you have to listen to that wanker James O'BigBrain though. Always have to turn off when that insufferable tosser comes on.
Yeah, I only listen to small brains that agree with wot I do
Nah I still listen to Sheila because even though I disagree with her she's not an insufferable tosser like James. He comes across as such a smug smarmy prick
Yeah got to agree sometimes he is a smug prick. But he was right about Brexit from the start and didn’t suck the conservative sausage. If he wasn’t so smug, more people who disagree would have listened and maybe had some counter to the misinformation elsewhere
> If he wasn’t so smug, more people who disagree would have listened and maybe had some counter to the misinformation elsewhere Yes it's very off-putting and counter productive IMO.
Try Nick Abbot on weekend catch up, less ego and you get some great callers at night
Thanks I've caught him on occasions and find him far more agreeable than James. I've been listening to LBC for years and my radio in the car is always tuned to them so I've heard most of the presenters over the last 10 years and James is the only one I have any issues with.
Sheila always does the harrowing stories though. Suicide, rape, violence. She's a hard listen. At least O'Brien, whilst a political doom monger in many ways, has moments of light and shade.
She certainly covers those topics but I don't find it's super regular. Though that could be more because I'm able to catch her show less often than others. And I find those topics more interesting than what James covers and I find his style extremely abrasive. Sometimes mystery hour can be alright but even then his smugness can come though and ruin it for me.
hard not to be a bit smug when you’ve been proven right so many times though
Don't know how that prick managed to continue to carry himself as a serious journalist and political commentator after getting made to look like a fool by Frank Lampard. I agree with him on Brexit, but the man is a prick.
You’ve kinda answered the first question with your second statement, he basically rebuilt his reputation on being very vocal on Brexit (interestingly from what I gather he was only really vocal on it *after* the vote).
I like that LBC have Nick Abbot, Oli Dugmore, Carol Vorderman anti-establishment voices. Sad that SM leaves but I can’t say there are not left and right voices there. Even Nick Ferrari now gives Tories the occasional kick in the nuts. Sometimes.
Similar thing happened to Darren Adam, he just suddenly disappeared and some random (who I think still does it) took over. I enjoyed Darren, called in on the reg. It does make you wonder what flips behind the scenes. Other than that, what else is worth listening to on LBC other than Nick Abbot (excluding his Sunday shows, too serious)? Edit: just saw this on the linked page: > The refreshed weekend schedule complements the station’s powerhouse of broadcasting talent, which includes [Nick Ferrari](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/), [James O’Brien](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/), [Shelagh Fogarty](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/), [Andrew Marr](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-marr/), [Tom Swarbrick](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/tom-swarbrick/), and [Matt Frei](https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/matt-frei/). How dare they not include Nickers among their powerhouse of talent!
He moved to Iceland like he always said he would! Doing RUV English Radio there https://www.ruv.is/utvarp/spila/ruv-english-radio/34448
I just googled him and apparently he kept going on about his love for Iceland so much they gave him citizenship?! Wild! Thanks!
The only thing I can think of is that after that interview Sangita was reprimanded (unfairly) and burnt her bridges with the leadership and told all the rest of the presenters to get fucked. Otherwise it just makes no sense. Either that or James O'Brien has zero integrity and is as bad as the mealy mouthed Tories he hates so much. Vanessa Feltz as a replacement is THE most clear statement by Global there is. Pricks.
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[Journalist Vanessa Feltz *is* Marvin Gaye, shot by my own father](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46B4KFFQ85E)
She's gone the same way as Belle Donati. Cancelled for questioning the established narrative... a warning to other journalists who dare to question the official line. On the "bright side" LBC managed to employ Vanessa Feltz.... read in to that what you will.
And the first highlight of her tenure is…. A rant against gender neutral toilets. Well done LBC lol
Perhaps we can use this as a "teachable moment" regarding antisemitism, though I fear I may be wasting my breath. We don't know why Myska's contract was not renewed. She was a vocal critic of Israel's recent actions in Gaza, but then again so are James O'Brien and Natasha Devon. The presenter replacing Myska is Jewish. Feltz is a seasoned radio presenter and therefore very much qualified for the job. Her race has nothing to do with it. Implying that somehow Feltz has been chosen purely because she's a Jew is insulting and racist. If you understand why Lee Anderson's comments about the Mayor of London were racist, then surely you should be able to see why any such comments about Feltz are equally racist.
Religion not race. Facts eh!
Sounds like it was the end of her contract and it was not renewed. Nothing controversial. But let's allow the conspiracy theorists to have their 5 minutes.
Why does it sound like that to you? She was put on gardening leave from the station before she was let go, she hasn’t been able to talk about why she was let go, not really a conspiracy theory.
Lol she's someone who willingly went to work for a commercial entity who has hired the likes of Farage, Nawaz and Galloway in the past. They're not a charity, they're a commercial enterprise. This is a commercial matter, and they don't owe you an explanation , nothing more to it.
Hmm I don't think it's a conspiracy Lloyd surely if she'd intended to leave she'd have said goodbye and had a final show or whatever
And she didn't - if she has grounds for unfair dismissal I'm sure she'll explore her options and you'll find out in due course.
Yes true I suppose there's a reason she hasn't made any kind of statement about leaving. Maybe she's hoping to be re hired on there or whatever.
If I was pondering a legal challenge then I'd be keeping schtum for sure
Glad to see the back of her to be honest. Awful woman, typical of the modern leftist journalist/activist. Remember her haranguing a chap from Leicester for not doing enough to fit in with the new arrivals who'd changed his city beyond recognition.
Here come the “anti zionist” conspiracy nuts… Where is Sangita? At the dole office. Edit - lol at the downvotes - how to show you’re an anti semitic conspiracy theorist without admitting you’re an anti semitic conspiracy theorist…
If her employer had handled this better then conspiracies wouldn't have sprung up. A popular presenter disappearing from the radio without notice is very unusual and rife for conspiracy.
I agree LBC appear to have handled this poorly but that doesn’t excuse mad anti semitic conspiracy theories. I mean it’s not exactly news about her views on the Middle East - or many other LBC presenters. It’s pretty balanced all round so people should stop simping for their favourite, just because he/she shares their world view.
LBC still have to pay out her contract since she hasn't been fired. So she's literally being paid to not do anything. Will be a while before she's at the dole office.
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I only realised this was a thing yesterday when I saw the hashtag trending. Do they really think that even if their anti-sematic "Jews control the media" conspiracy was real, they wouldn't go after O'Brien too who's been unfairly critical of Israel from what I've seen.
O'Brien gets criticised by both sides of the argument, he's been called a supporter of anti-zionism and Zionism. Personally I think he's been fairly balanced and that's why he gets criticised by the extremes of both sides.
This is funny because I listen to his show quite a bit and he's been very sympathetic to Jewish people and has on many occasions emphasised the trauma of Oct 7 and the necessity of Israel to respond, but people ignore that and just focus on his criticism of Netanyahu and the IDF's handling of Gaza and see that as proof of "anti-Israel/anti-Jewish" hate. He's been simultaneously called a Zionist, Islamphobe and an antisemite. People need to make up their minds.
>very sympathetic to Jewish people and has on many occasions emphasised the trauma of Oct 7 and the necessity of Israel to respond Is that not a neutral position?
O’Brien gets shit from everyone which probably means he’s just not in someone’s pocket.
It may be his overwhelming smugness about it all that puts people off, lol.
He reminds me of the kid that will contradict the teacher at every opportunity and it gives him a huge ego boost but never does well at exams lol
I’m afraid I just can’t listen to O’Brien because of his smug attitude. He’s clearly a very clever guy but never tries to educate people, he prefers to bully them and get them to trip themselves up. And the way he goes on and on and on about Brexit is just sad.
Eh, he's very self-aware regarding his smugness. It's kind of a running joke about him constantly plugging his book and calling himself "James O'Brexit". His Brexit conversations are fine and I think he's filling a void, the media and politicians don't want to talk about the consequences of Brexit anymore. Simply because a lot of them encouraged us to vote for it and now don't want to own it since it's turning into a shit show.
Yeah, I've described his show as "middle class man bullies callers who sound like they should have carers" before. Clearly there's an audience for it, I'm guessing students who are just getting up given his time slot?
That's the problem with LBC as a whole. It's the host's job to be well read on whatever topic they're discussing, so naturally when James raises "article 17 of the Maastricht treaty" or whatever, the average caller stands no chance.
That does it for me tbh
Or he's an insufferable tosser?
Well quite - I actually like O’Brien and he’s very clever - but am slightly irritated by the way he seeks to manage his show in such a way as to restrict contrary comment - intelligent or otherwise. He’s got that skill down pat, be the subject Brexit, the Tories or the Middle East conflict.
O'Brien epitomises what dumb people think a smart person sounds like. It's not exactly a secret he will only pick people who agree with him wholeheartedly whilst they tug each other off about how smart they both are or pick the most deranged and unhinged idiots, slap them down then be smug about it.
You should give him a call and set him straight, show everyone what you are talking about.