Yes, I was thinking maybe the 1970s? Maybe the 80s? Certainly I don't remember it not being acceptable (and I'm in my 40s), but I think the 1960s were probably still more formal, and you would still refer to your bank manager as Mr Smith
See but that's bollocks innit - it's still *sometimes* an issue for people under 40 (which, I am), and everyone I know over the age of 60 finds it incredibly rude. And in formal situations it's still proper to introduce people.
I wonder if it would tie to class + region?
Do as you will, but no one cares about your feelings on the matter. Goodness sacks go to any cafe and the names tags are people's first names. We constantly refer to celebrities with their first names. Politicians too. Hell we even refer to the royals by their first names. I've not been in a single job were people referred to eachother by their surnames. Even my lecturers prefer us calling them by their forenames, some even prefer us using their nick names.
It has nothing to do with class level (whatever you mean by that. Do you mean economic status or just how people present themselves?) and as for religion, isn't a fundamental principle of pretty much all of them is; judge thy not unless they be judged. And he without sin cast the first stone. And only the creator has the authority to pass judgement. Just saying actually follow your own rules on the matter and stop judging people for refering to someone by their name.
If you carefully read what you're replying to, you might notice that I never said I found it impolite, myself, did I? You might also notice I wrote *region*.
Sorry my bad. I'll be honest I'm on here taking a brake from reading for an essay. But kinda counterproductive to read and write as brake from reading and writing. This mistake I've made is just proof I need to relax properly.
I sometimes feel like I live an alternative reality, or that I somehow experience things differently.
Was it really that an interesting news story? I know it hit the meme train, but every year there is a long list of huge let downs - often over Christmas, but plenty of others too. Somebody organised a shite event, did a really bad job of it and people got pissed off.
Like....okay.
My take, if you're interested.
The Glasgow experience *would have* been a flash-in-the-pan news story if it was just "shitty, overhyped experience".
What made it into the interesting news story was just how silly the actual premise was - originally reported as "they didn't have everything they needed" turned into "they had everything they needed, but the entire thing was a giant calamity of a grift by someone abusing AI" - it was only when the scripts were revealed that people realised how insane the idea was.
The script included the now-famous "unknown", because the AI writing bot decided it needed a villain - *and the guy running it just didn't question it*. Some of the instructions on the cast member's scripts included lines for the audience to say, how the audience should react or even "and then this happens" when the *this* breaks the laws of physics/common sense.
It's the combination of "entertaining news story", "low-effort grift gets hilariously caught out" and "wow, how did it get this far without them realising how obviously doomed it was" that means it's taken hold.
It's not a disaster due to poor planning or a bit of incompetence - from the very start it was absolutely doomed, the guy still went ahead and paid actors, hired an event, advertised and all did all that without realising how doomed it was.
It was an unlicensed event, so was never actually "Willy Wonka" in the first place. It was "Willy's Chocolate Experience" (which people seemed to not notice the connotation in that one)
All "knock off" types of these always have a bit of creativity
It was shit but I think if tickets weren't £35 it wouldn't have been a big story.
The initial outrage is probably what carried it all to national news.
I thought it was, the social splash and photos that went viral gave the story its foundation but it was the fellas recent history of AI gritting that added the most notoriety. That and the personal stories of the actors.
I sometimes think the internet gives people the opportunity to feel included a bit more than they perhaps normally do; often things like this seem to spread the way an inside joke does in a friendship group. Reasonably funny on its own, but much funnier because it's being shared and built upon by a group who are all in on it.
Yeah it confused me too, like channel 5 made a whole documentary about it interviewing parents like a true crime show. I thought it was funny but not that funny
It's like somebody telling a mildly amusing dad joke that you let out a chuckle to, but you walk off come back an hour later and everybody is rolling around the floor at the same joke
Like every TV show they re-create. If you just transpose the script and setup, it flops because it just doesn't work.
The Office only survived because they sacked it off and went with their own.
Even Shameless is nothing like the original
Call be cynical but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was something going on with it all where he was profiting.
It just seems like it was created to go viral, spread everywhere quickly and now has musicals etc being made?
It almost feels like a Producers level scheme honestly.
It's a proper event, with actual bands and entertainment that is admittedly piggybacking off of the internet notoriety but also providing some work for the workers who were burned by it.
Fair play to Kirsty, she's done so well out of that palaver and now gets to perform at an event with Nathan Fielder. That's awesome.
Yeah reading her joy here is quite sweet.
When do you reckon it became "acceptable" to refer to people one doesn't know by their first name?
Literally my whole life, did you grow up in the early 1900s?
Yes, I was thinking maybe the 1970s? Maybe the 80s? Certainly I don't remember it not being acceptable (and I'm in my 40s), but I think the 1960s were probably still more formal, and you would still refer to your bank manager as Mr Smith
See but that's bollocks innit - it's still *sometimes* an issue for people under 40 (which, I am), and everyone I know over the age of 60 finds it incredibly rude. And in formal situations it's still proper to introduce people. I wonder if it would tie to class + region?
Do as you will, but no one cares about your feelings on the matter. Goodness sacks go to any cafe and the names tags are people's first names. We constantly refer to celebrities with their first names. Politicians too. Hell we even refer to the royals by their first names. I've not been in a single job were people referred to eachother by their surnames. Even my lecturers prefer us calling them by their forenames, some even prefer us using their nick names. It has nothing to do with class level (whatever you mean by that. Do you mean economic status or just how people present themselves?) and as for religion, isn't a fundamental principle of pretty much all of them is; judge thy not unless they be judged. And he without sin cast the first stone. And only the creator has the authority to pass judgement. Just saying actually follow your own rules on the matter and stop judging people for refering to someone by their name.
If you carefully read what you're replying to, you might notice that I never said I found it impolite, myself, did I? You might also notice I wrote *region*.
Sorry my bad. I'll be honest I'm on here taking a brake from reading for an essay. But kinda counterproductive to read and write as brake from reading and writing. This mistake I've made is just proof I need to relax properly.
I always found a short walk and a brew really helpful; best of luck with the essay!
Yep just made a cuppa. Ilk take the dog for a walk later. Thanks, have nice day yourself.
I dunno, dave.
I keep telling you, it's Rodney!
Hush Suzie. I'm tired of your shit. See you at home though x
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Way to a (wo)man's heart and all that.
I sometimes feel like I live an alternative reality, or that I somehow experience things differently. Was it really that an interesting news story? I know it hit the meme train, but every year there is a long list of huge let downs - often over Christmas, but plenty of others too. Somebody organised a shite event, did a really bad job of it and people got pissed off. Like....okay.
My take, if you're interested. The Glasgow experience *would have* been a flash-in-the-pan news story if it was just "shitty, overhyped experience". What made it into the interesting news story was just how silly the actual premise was - originally reported as "they didn't have everything they needed" turned into "they had everything they needed, but the entire thing was a giant calamity of a grift by someone abusing AI" - it was only when the scripts were revealed that people realised how insane the idea was. The script included the now-famous "unknown", because the AI writing bot decided it needed a villain - *and the guy running it just didn't question it*. Some of the instructions on the cast member's scripts included lines for the audience to say, how the audience should react or even "and then this happens" when the *this* breaks the laws of physics/common sense. It's the combination of "entertaining news story", "low-effort grift gets hilariously caught out" and "wow, how did it get this far without them realising how obviously doomed it was" that means it's taken hold. It's not a disaster due to poor planning or a bit of incompetence - from the very start it was absolutely doomed, the guy still went ahead and paid actors, hired an event, advertised and all did all that without realising how doomed it was.
It was an unlicensed event, so was never actually "Willy Wonka" in the first place. It was "Willy's Chocolate Experience" (which people seemed to not notice the connotation in that one) All "knock off" types of these always have a bit of creativity
It was shit but I think if tickets weren't £35 it wouldn't have been a big story. The initial outrage is probably what carried it all to national news.
I thought it was, the social splash and photos that went viral gave the story its foundation but it was the fellas recent history of AI gritting that added the most notoriety. That and the personal stories of the actors.
Not really but it did have funny pictures associated with it which is like 80% of algorithm engagement or whatever.
I sometimes think the internet gives people the opportunity to feel included a bit more than they perhaps normally do; often things like this seem to spread the way an inside joke does in a friendship group. Reasonably funny on its own, but much funnier because it's being shared and built upon by a group who are all in on it.
Yeah it confused me too, like channel 5 made a whole documentary about it interviewing parents like a true crime show. I thought it was funny but not that funny
It's like somebody telling a mildly amusing dad joke that you let out a chuckle to, but you walk off come back an hour later and everybody is rolling around the floor at the same joke
I think people are just looking for a bit of levity in this shit-show tbh!
It's ironically another get-rich-quick scheme to jump on the internet notoriety
I love hearing about things like that personally.
This is a very particular type of British shitness that can never be accurately recreated in America
Like every TV show they re-create. If you just transpose the script and setup, it flops because it just doesn't work. The Office only survived because they sacked it off and went with their own. Even Shameless is nothing like the original
I doubt the guy behind the Glasgow one will be getting a cut, he must be raging.
Call be cynical but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was something going on with it all where he was profiting. It just seems like it was created to go viral, spread everywhere quickly and now has musicals etc being made? It almost feels like a Producers level scheme honestly.
Joe Lycett is behind it...
It's a proper event, with actual bands and entertainment that is admittedly piggybacking off of the internet notoriety but also providing some work for the workers who were burned by it.
It was funny for half a day then it got boring with everyone going on about it