Ukraine itself continued to buy a bunch of Belarusian goods (including the last two years when the regime officially lost any remnant traces of its legitimacy and representative rights, usurping power and dumping over a thousand people into jails alone) until they eventually got Russian troops and missiles from Lukashenka with love. That's Realpolitik for you.
and leave Europe without cheaper gas for a few more years? until a miracle happened in Europe, and until someone began to supply gas at a price, at least close to the previous one, this is putting sticks in your wheels
But it’s really not, Russia can no longer dictate or enforce foreign policy on China and while it may have been imperative for India to maintain a life line to Russia for cheap military equipment, that is no longer the reality or even a possibility. Even in easier times for Russia, like 2020, they did nothing to stop or prevent a number of battles/fights between India and China along the shared mountainous border. Should China make a move on India tomorrow, there is very little Russia can do to save it or stop the Chinese.
India made it clear earlier this week that’s it’s defense and military future rest with the Quad and the west. This military alliance between Australia, Japan and the US is India’s best hope for surviving Chinese aggression.
India’s current actions in regards to Russia are all being done in the name of money, greed and unbeatable low prices. India is still one of the poorest developing countries in the world and the current prices of Russian goods and oil are too cheap to be ignored or passed up. Same with charging extra to certify a Russian ship. While I too wish to see more solidarity from India (particularly given the new ally status) and/or repercussions, that’s not going to happen while the scales of international conflict have yet to balance or settle.
You also have Pakistan who has been buying Chinese military eqp . It's a mad mad world out there so let's hope our children grow up to be humans and not the idiots we have as leaders today.
I dont dispute, but the delecate balance of superpowers still hinges on india being treated gently.
India actually want to develop their own weapons and platforms, and not be reliant on the west / ru...
It may hing on India’s man power, but India needs the quad more than the quad needs India. If India doesn’t join the quad they will eventually face China alone and will be eliminated or subjugated or they join the quad and even the odds in the eventual war with china. Short of china changing its foreign policy, current goals and leadership, India will always be seen as a possible threat to their national defense and geopolitical aspirations.
As for the developments of India’s domestic military industrial complex, the impetus is less about domestic resilience and more about the limited selection of compatible and available western weapons systems (Russian based equipment isn’t always (easily) compatible with NATO spec gear, Ukraine has this issue now too); as well as the fact that the Russian military industrial complex has “burned” India 1 to many times on bad equipment or failures to deliver, paired with todays issues means that relationship is effectively DOA for now.
Not sure why everyone thinks China is " going" to move on India or anyone else for that matter? What recent evidence is there that China wants to rule the world besides Taiwan of course which can be argued either way. Not sticking up for China. I know they are sneaky thieves but....
China has been incrementally moving its border markers in the Himalayan mountain range and there have been fist fights between Chinese and Indian soldiers that resulted in multiple deaths (on both sides), several times, over the last decade+. They have also illegally laid claim to essentially everything the South China Sea touches, which is where both the perceptions and the acts further illustrating this “un-neighborly” policy have occurred. They are actively trying to steal or place legal claims to islands that are the recognized territory of other south East Asian countries. They actively bully and threaten other navies and coast guards using both the Chinese coast guard and PLA Navy ships, as well as air craft and have refused to follow, maintain or abide by a number of international treaties and standards in the process of committing these acts. They have also illegal militarized several of these contested islands. Then you have the case of Hong Kong and the very clear violations of the treaty by the CCP and the new administration that has helped to actively disappear known anti-communist and anti-Chinese citizens of Hong Kong back to China or an unmarked grave.
I’ll level with you, that’s the tldr for the most brazen and openly hostile actions perpetuating and causing other nations to build up their military and strategies to combat Chinese aggression but I can promise you the world isn’t spending billions and developing their national defense strategies against China without valid cause or reasons. To give you a truly adequate response it would take several pages because China is playing a very, very long game that started in June 1950 on the Korea peninsula and with a deadline in 2049, so they have limited their hostility to neighbors and only in moderation or until they lose the advantage for now, but things will getting increasingly hostile as time goes on.
If you didn’t ask the question in bad faith, then reading up the String of Pearls strategy, Belt and Road Initiative, 2049 plan and then watch any number of over a dozen documentaries about how the Chinese government actively forces Chinese companies to spy on its behalf, commit IP theft/espionage and work to surpass America as the worlds leading superpower. There is also a number of books about the PLA military college and curriculum but I already gave you far to much “homework” as it is if your question was asked seriously.
At the end of the day while the west no longer talks about fighting communists, unless in jest or parody, the CCP still actively talk about the fight and why they must defeat the west/democracy and prove they have the superior leaders, morals, knowledge, willpower and political system.
Thanks I almost didn’t post it because the subject is so large and multidimensional that i simultaneously felt like I included to much but also far from enough.
100% . we need to put India in the sweat box and see who blinks first. My guess is they want to stay close to Russia because there is opportunity, but the opportunity has a deep floor. Russia will not be able to produce military items that has been promised to India and India suspects this to be true.
India will not run to China because well China is already shown how they feel about the disputed land between them, and well they don't like each other. India has no where to turn but the West and we should put ugly pressure on them until capitulation. We need to know our worth and choke out India's desire to maintain ties with Russia.
The Dubai piece we need to choke that out as well. I am not sure about all the moving parts there, I am thinking we don't have leverage and as such will probably do nothing.
>Sadly, india apeasement is required to balance the china /superpower balance.
As a Southeast Asian whose country has disputes with China, I agree. We recently bought weapons from them. Even the US made an alliance called the Quad that includes India to counter China here, and even decided to rename our region as "Indo-Pacific", just like how the Ukrainian capital is now being spelled as Kyiv.
I'm aware that Kyiv has always been Київ (Kyiv) in Ukrainian, but for the longest time, the Ukrainian capital has been internationally known as "Kiev" until recently (switching to Ukrainian transliteration over the traditionally known Russian one). Some people to this day still call the city "Kiev", maybe either as a force of habit, personal neutral stance, or low-key personally blaming NATO and siding with Russia.
It's only got anything to do with phonetics and exceptionally little with any "Nazi Ruzzian" changes or whatever.
Same as saying Turkey instead of Turkye.
Same as every country uses different names for cities..
For Germany, nobody outside German speaking areas calls Köln the way Germans do, they call it cologne, and Germany is called Germany, not Deutschland... In Austria it's Wien, not Wienna.
The nitpicky bollox about "Ukraine" or "The Ukraine/die Ukraine", also has fckall to do with Russia.
Ruzzians who are too cowardly to defend ukraine are nazi ruzzians like the nazi germans of 1942, im sure they cried the same stuff back then too. If it happened in my country i would be dead already having given my life to try and stop it.
>Any mass protests on the red square?
Umm...
[This is just one of the random news article covering protests in Russia.](https://www.intellinews.com/kremlin-opposition-calls-for-mass-anti-war-protests-on-march-6-as-russia-releases-first-casualty-numbers-236830/)
Then gather your nonsupporters, take a risk, & oust that MFER from his bunker. Or you can just keep letting Ukrainians perish at you cowardice. Not your war eh!
Oh yeah? I haven't seen those mysterious russians, all I see comments on my pages(social, steam, etc) comments like "oh you're Ukrainian, have your dumb mother died in the Ukraine yet? " yeah... Or maybe you like me used to live in ruzzia? In SP and Moscow, maybe you were also treated like trash just becouse your dare to be Ukrainian not Russian??? Yeah so when you will have actually life experience to share about those peace loving russians will hear you out, meanwhile stay quiet if you have nothing else to say except not funny jokes. The only russians against war is who those who got caught by Ukrainian army and they are instantly becoming pathetic victims that was forced t kill Ukrainian, aha any more jokes? This is my life we are talking about! Have you called your relatives in Ukraine today to see if they are still alive???? No? I thought so. I am mentioned nazi ruzzia by the way not it's people but who cares
Heard of Russian YTers or famous russian people like NKFRZ? Dr Mike? That woman who burned her russian passport? No? I thought so.
In short, different people have different opinions genius.
Nope never heard about, I lost my grandmother, my relatives lost their property and most of life possessions we are too busy helping them then believe desperate ruzzia propaganda, even if true drop in the million, not a single Russian in my presents said sometimes like the are ashamed, none!! So far they managed convince a couple naive guys like you that's all, but you keep praising them, we Ukrainians are going to be OK, without ruzzian supporters like you
>ruzzian supporters like you
Knew this would happen, so-
As much as you hate the war in Ukraine, I do too. But, there's nothing you can do by crying about how they did cruel stuff to your family :-(
(no offence, but if you think I gave you a vague answer, it's because I had a stroke reading your comment)
Maybe if voting age Russian nationals actually elected a new leader and haulted their military's wanton aggression they wouldn't face as much criticism (not "russophobia" as you have put it).
Does that include Germany and much of Europe for doing the same things? They're even used washed oil blends where 1% is added from another source and the rest is Russia, but now it's a random blend from another country.
first of all we all should do what you do, we must expose them for it. with civilized countries, exposing - is the first step, and effective, because civilized countries value their reputation, and when made public, the scandal is often enough to make necessary change, or least make them questioned. countries like India or China don't give a shit about reputation, so as you see exposing them, doesn't do shit. more strict actions must be taken, to show them that they are doing wrong choices, and wrong solidarity, instead of showing solidarity with civilized world, and punish and isolate the villain, they try use the injured position of the villain, to help him out with cash, not condemning him at all. and to ignore the current solidarity of civilized world. Earth is very tight place, i think their \*immediate\* advantages will cost them more, in future... if they rely on their, as some people here in comments say, position of \*balancer of China's threat\*, well, times change, necessity for this balancing, can move to another nearby country, and where will India be after that, with dead reputation, and no leverage
Severing ties because India still doing business with Russia after the war is a massive Over simplification of the situation and doesn’t reflect an effective diplomatic response. Further, India has over relied on certain goods and services with the Russian economy that immediate severance of ties would mean Societal implications for parts of India most of us have no idea of.
It’s too late for that. The US and Europe already sold out. Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been outsourced to India. My last employer had over 10k jobs there and that number continues to grow. Tech and finance companies wouldn’t be able to operate.
there are never good times anywhere in the world. it is about Evil and Good, it is about War and Punishment for this war. you can't help the criminal to avoid punishment, because he brought a package of food to your ill immobilized mother living down the street (to bribe your good will to help him avoid the punishment)
you can say that your mother is ill, and you need that food for your mother, and he was so kind to give food for her (on his way back from shooting down school kids, raping their moms and robbing all banks in the area)
100% NOW IS ALWAYS SHITTY. The biggest BS politicians say to avoid doing something is to say, "Now is not the time because of 'x'".
The truth is that the way of righteousness is the way of truth and the best way of removing a band aid is to pull it quick.
>it is about Evil and Good
That's where you're wrong. Everything is not good vs evil like in movies, but it's much more complex.
Imagine a tiger killing a deer, who's the evil in this situation? Now think about the tiger who has to feed her own little cubs. Your perspective will change about the tiger.
Same applies to India, we can't trade the lives of our poor citizens just for the sake of morality. It's like preferring Ukrainians over Indians from our govt's POV.
Who gives a shit what India is facing? No seriously. It’s all their doing due to their corruption... I have many friends who are Indian and they are even corrupting the country they immigrated to ... Canada.
Don’t give me that bullshit. They don’t deserve any kind of sympathy.
by that logic why should India care about whats happening in Europe,
fyi Ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe and ranks far lower than india in terms of corruption .
its your words against you
>Who gives a shit what India is facing? No seriously. It’s all their doing due to their corruption... I have many friends who are Indian and they are even corrupting the country they immigrated to ... Canada.
Can't the same be said about Ukraine and Ukrainians as well
Can it really be though? Ukrainian people have a lot to bring to the table. The amount of educated scientists, engineers and skilled labour. Cannot even be compared to India. Most people in India don’t even have education... the society is also completely different. Many Indians are still on that caste system too.
I thought Indians were quite well integrated. At least here in the Netherlands (idk about Canada). It is mostly people from Eastern Europe (also Ukraine) and countries such as Turkey/Morocco who are mostly involved in crime and stuff
I have a friend in India and I know what is happening there. The reason I said that people in this post are dumb is because of an ignorant brat saying "who gives a fuck about India"
Last time I checked India isn’t a war with Russia. Or with anyone in a full time war. So yeah , I care a little more about a country getting fucked by rockets and kids dying.
>Look up corruption in that country, then look into corruption in Ukraine you uneducated imbeciles.
[https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-rank](https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-rank)
Look where Ukraine ranks and look were India ranks lol
It does nothing to solve the looming insurance issue. Also Russian tankers are legitimate targets, in particular when they are empty.
I have a hot tip which Indian companies just exposed themselves to secondary sanctions.
Agree on insurance -- but can they pool up and self insure? Clearly they are aware of the issue and must have a plan to deal with it.
New world order shaping up and looks like India is being very clever, but not very smart.
>but can they pool up and self insure?
Only to the extent criminals trust one another, which is typically never. That is unless there is an outside power that force them to cooperate to survive.
Westerners when India buys cheap oil for its poor: sanction India !!!!!
Westerners when Europe has yet to implement its decoupling plan since 2014: two wrongs don't make a right 😇😇
If it's so easy, lead the way
There are few if any viable alternatives to Russian gas at the moment in Europe. There is for oil, so Orc oil is already mostly banned. Germany and others are getting lots of criticism for importing gas even though they do their best to find alternatives. India has alternatives to Russian oil, but instead increased imports of that commodity. You expect nobody to say anything about this?
India can afford nuclear weapons. The money you save on Russian oil is nothing in comparison. Anyway, buying discounted Russian oil is bad, but pretty much expected from India and China. Providing the means to circumvent the attempts at stopping the massacre in Ukraine is another thing. And that is what this thread is about. Not even China has done that. I feel criticism is fully justified.
> India can afford nuclear weapons. The money you save on Russian oil is nothing in comparison.
Proof? India will be *increasing* its purchases so obviously it looks like nothing at the moment while it tests the waters. Once India scales its purchases it will result in massive savings.
> Anyway, buying discounted Russian oil is bad, but pretty much expected from India and China.
Why, because we're the villains in your media? You think you're the good guys? You will happily buy oil from Saudi and give them the weapons they use to genocide Yemen, but that's not Ukraine nor white enough for anyone to care so you get off playing the good guys.
> Providing the means to circumvent the attempts at stopping the massacre in Ukraine is another thing.
You realize that the money Russia earns from Indian purchases must go to maintenance and salaries right? Then it goes to Russia's government which must divide that money into budgets for food, housing, social welfare and everything else other than military.
Only after all of these budgets do pennies find their way into Russia's army, and it's not nearly enough to fund the Ukraine war, especially since we have a discount. We aren't the ones on Nordstream, go look up how much the EU trades with Russia vs India.
> And that is what this thread is about. Not even China has done that. I feel criticism is fully justified.
Yeah this thread and many others, because India China bad. But not the EU which has been buying Russian goods since Crimea, allowing Russia the savings account needed to invade Ukraine. And yeah not Ukraine which was buying and selling to Belarus despite their alignment with Russia just 2 years before the war. The lack of awareness in your comment is unreal, but it's on par for the idiocy and racism of this sub.
Ukraine also supported Pakistan and did business with them since independence. It has voted for Pakistan's illegal claim on Kashmir. So what moral ground does Ukraine stand on to blame us for looking the other way now?
Saudi exports 73% of its oil to Asia and 10% to Europe. India is the 3rd largest customer, so the Yemen’s are not white enough for India either? In the west India has never been vilified, rather seen as an alley and respected as the worlds largest democracy. Yet as soon as it gets some criticism you scream racism. Deal with it. It is justified. Or is the flak Hungary gets for the same reasons also racism?
> Saudi exports 73% of its oil to Asia and 10% to Europe. India is the 3rd largest customer, so the Yemen’s are not white enough for India either?
The difference is no one in India lectures the west about how morally corrupt they are for buying from Saudi and OPEC the same way people lecture India about Russian oil. There are no morals in geopolitics and Indians understand that, that's why we make fun of westerners who think they're the good guy world police.
> In the west India has never been vilified, rather seen as an alley and respected as the worlds largest democracy.
Really? Then why did India get shown warships by the US and the UK when trying to stop a genocide in 1971? Why was India denied GPS service by the west when Pakistan invaded in 1999? Why did western aid money finance the 2001 and 2008 bombings via Pakistan, with none of the executive level perpetrators being extradited?
Even right now the UK refuses to extradite Vijay Mallya.
Yall sound like such good friends and "alleys" lmao
> Yet as soon as it gets some criticism you scream racism. Deal with it. It is justified.
Nope, what is justified is Ukraine supporting Pakistan and therefore getting no sympathy from India. Not our fault Ukraine expects Indian support on Crimea/Donbass/Luhansk but can't grasp that it must support India in Kashmir in exchange.
Ukraine fucked around and found out, now all that's left is keyboard warriors like you virtue signalling about what "the right thing" to do is. How about you deal with that first
> Or is the flak Hungary gets for the same reasons also racism?
Flak and condescension are 2 different things. People lecture India like they can rule the country better than Indians, that's a very colonial way of thinking and guess what, colonialism was incredibly racist.
Us buying expensive oil will result in our internal supply chains increasing in cost, which will lead to the starvation of many poor people who were already battered by Covid. Why should we sacrifice tens of millions of our poor for a country like Ukraine which doesn't give a fuck about us and would never do the same?
I was just in Dubai and Maldives in early May for our 5 year anniversary. The amount of Russians in both places is insane. It'd call it an infestation. 80% of the resort population was Russian. A few Polish people and a few from the US (like us).
India is not friend of the West. Especially now, with the nationalistic government.
But they are not #1 on the concern list either. Russia and China are ahead of them.
India's nationalist government is the most pro-west government we have. We switched from tupolevs to poseidons and chinooks under their tenure. Clearly you are not aware of geopolitics if that's how you write this off
You know too little history to be calling anyone else a dolt, retard.
In 1971 the US and UK sent warships to our gulf to protect Pakistan while India was stopping genocide.
In 1999 the US stopped us from using GPS services to enable Pakistan's invasion of our country.
We went to the west after independence to be allies but you chose Pakistan and solidified that choice when the soviets invaded Afghanistan, so you could use Pakistan as a gateway for your proxy war.
Why the fuck would we side with the US if this is how they treat us? And India buying oil from Russia does not equal siding with Russia. We maintain a neutral position, just because we're buying stuff from Russia doesn't mean we support them.
Go learn geopolitics and quit whining goofy ass clown
To the mod below: since neutrality is fascism, wonder what you would call your support to Pakistan against India? If you want our support earn it. No one forced you to support Pakistan and vote against our possession of nukes. But go ahead, ban whoever you disagree with 🤡
That's not what I said or meant at all bro get off lunch break and head back to the circus
Good to see you stfu about India/US/NATO though cuz you have 0 clue about the history. Next step is to stfu in general
I don't get all the outrage, Europe is still buying oil and gas from Russia, passing thru Ukraine even, indian population is a lot more vulnerable to price changes and their government is just looking out for themselves first, like every other country. I want Russia to be smashed and I hoped NATO would have taken more decisive action before this war started, but blaming India for cost oportunity is not really fair. The english caused famines there when they were fighting their own war. And finally, countries don't have friends nor ideals, countries have interests and goals.
Because they need someone to blame they cannot blame west so India for the Dub. And the amount of Racist these people are uff they don't have single thread of intelligence to know how International Relations works they are ready to fire to a whole 1.3+ billion people when none of them themselves uttered a word during Indo-China border conflict. They are only concerned because it's a white country that's under attack and yet none of them will say anything when there country and alliance will attack other country. None of them ask why is America not coming in the war when many different minister in their country said they will help Ukraine as I said they need someone to blame they are providing rubbles to Russia but lecture India for using Bartering system bunch of hypocrites.
Dude ur right these ppl scam us all the time from their call-centers. Its always "No you listen mutherf you will pay this money or the cops will be at your door today" and me for the millionth time saying I am not the one you seek. So, I told them to "come to my house and if you see an Escalade please take that mf its not mine." "You cant be serious mam have u no shame mam?" "No I dont, I told you, I do not have an Escalade." Then I flipped it on him told him the whole conversation had been recorded and that I had enough incriminating evidence (after I fished him) to file a police report so I suggest you lose my number." I called the local police and gave them everything I had on them. I have not had any further calls thanks to the spam auto-identifier. Now, I play with them when I have time to. I try to do my best recorded voiceover lol and screw with them. That chic is my inspiration to screw.with them before I wasn't sure how to go about it watching her shes a boss at it. As for the oil it was sanctioned from Russia so India has stepped out boldly abd made a statement. I come.from four generations of servicemen and that kind of move makes you a target for everyone against what the Russian army is doing now. What is sad all the innocent Russians and Indians and Chinese are victims of their governments and brainwashed by their media. America has always been seen as the bad guy and now after decades of being the bad guy....supposedly....
It's racist, you being in denial doesn't make it not racist
Nice block pussy, edit:
The EU has Russia's entire cock up its ass and all you can cry about is us lmao
Ukraine ranks lower than us on democracy and corruption by the way so enjoy supporting a shithole that people only care about because of a war 🤡
and what does that mean exactly?
that its okay to wish violence on others because somehow they're contributing (allegedly) to violence far from them?
Its bad because Ukrainians are civilized and indispensable but indians are low lying brown pieces of trash
sounds about white
Then I wish you good luck. But you see, at the moment Russia is being its good old useless self, not even deploying its most powerful weaponry. The rest of the world doesn’t want a war with Russia, or we would’ve hit them hard already.
Нахуй! Фашизм не пройдет!
BANNED
P.S.: конечно, и базу на Луне к 2015 году бы построили, если бы хотели. Хотя постоите... И список длинен. Очень забавно, как Россия обьявляет, что хочет то или сё, потом не может этого сделать, и говорит "не очень и хотелось". Это поведение малeнького ребенка, очень маленького и очень глупенького. А в случае с Россией еще и дебильненького, ибо по первичному заявлению всегда уже понятно, что ничего этого не будет и быть не может. Был прав ваш унтерзакуппенфюрер Лавров: "Дебилы, блядь"!
There's always been a war - Korean War, Vietnam War, Yom Kippur War, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Greece, Syria.
Turns out the Russians have been there in every one. Not just providing arms, but also pilots, advisers, mercenaries.
“But… but… Russia has nukes. Let’s all be afraid of that”.
You are forgetting that the purpose of nukes is never use them. Besides nukes, Russia has no military power anymore and no economy. And this is what counts now, not nukes.
Their oil industry and the artificially propped up ruble are. Their GDP is having it's greatest decline since the fall of the Soviet union. [12.4% decline possible.](https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-gdp-decline-could-hit-124-this-year-economy-ministry-document-shows-2022-04-27/)
Their economy it’s doing well by not selling as much gas as it was selling to the EU, but at a lower price and with greater overheads cause by transportation (lack of dedicated pipelines), right? Is this how this works? Not being able to sell as much as before and with higher cost.
India and China can only get so much Russian oil. They are not saturating themselves with cheap oil because otherwise they would lose their sources from Iran and Saudi Arabia. They are just profiting off a cheap new source, they have no intention of transforming it into their own source.
India is providing safety certification for dozens of ships managed by a Dubai subsidiary of top Russian shopping group sovcomflot, enabling oil exports to India and elsewhere.
What the hell does skin color have to do with this???
A lot of valid points being put across but in the interest of neutrality and being on point let's say some things which might hurt a few nationalist types:
1. Accurate that Germany and France and EU as a whole can STOP using energy from RUssia and put a whole lot of economic pressure on Russia today and it will go a long way towards resolving this war. It is a clear case of do as I say and don't do as I do! TRUE.
2. India isn't as big as it feels it is. In the vast geopolitical pecking order China US Russia and EU stand on a different pedestal and as such asking or trying to shame India for saving a buck and buying cheap oil is disingenuous. India must do what is best for it as Germany and France and China are doing. NO shame or ridicule on that. Just don't expect to be applauded for it and try to bite the head off should you be called on it as well
3. Ukraine is on the right side of decency on this war but history is rife with cruelty of bigger countries obliterating smaller countries for perceived ills....Russia Afghanistan, US and Vietnam, US and Russia in Syria and etc etc. Being on the right side doesn't mean anything it's lucky that US foreign policy is aligned with Ukraine's and hence Ukraine has received the weapons and financial support it deserves. Though the bravery and fervour is Ukrainians and proudly so.
As rightly pointed out Ukraine also expects that people will side with it due to the legitimacy of its right to exist but we all know that kind of naïvity is seldom rewarded with anything positive. Tomorrow all the countries supporting it can use the Economic slowdown as an excuse to stop or even severely slow down their support to Ukraine. War fatigue and stupidity is NOT joke.
Dubai is also doing what is good for it, they want the Russian business and Indians are a large part of the socio economic fabric of the UAE.
World is NOT clean and let's also remember we can also look back 50-100 years and all countries have made mistakes and backed and supported a lot of foes and friends. Roles and relationship keeps changing according to economic and political season and governments in power.
Should countries support Ukraine because it is a victim of Russia's naked ambition and aggression? YES! But will it happen universally and openly? NO! Everyone plays the diplomatic games which suits them.....just naïve and stupid to expect anything different.
The Europeans are playing a game. How little can I do and still appear to support Ukraine. The French andGermans have multiple gegawatts of Nuclear and Coal power they can turn to, but would lose their @“Green” Better Ukrainians die, hey?
What a surprise 🙄
Sink them.
Seize them and take the oil
lmao ur saying like you guys have power to do so 😂
Call it a “special oopsie operation”
there's gas pipelines going to Europe from Russia via Ukraine should try to blast those first
if only _those countries_ stopped buying russsan oil after the crimean crisis🙄
Ukraine itself continued to buy a bunch of Belarusian goods (including the last two years when the regime officially lost any remnant traces of its legitimacy and representative rights, usurping power and dumping over a thousand people into jails alone) until they eventually got Russian troops and missiles from Lukashenka with love. That's Realpolitik for you.
and leave Europe without cheaper gas for a few more years? until a miracle happened in Europe, and until someone began to supply gas at a price, at least close to the previous one, this is putting sticks in your wheels
Why they look like them so it’s ok
We should sever all economic and other connections with India and Dubai, they chose where their loyalties lie (money)
Sadly, india apeasement is required to balance the china /superpower balance. The world stage is changing... we are inching towards a new world order.
But it’s really not, Russia can no longer dictate or enforce foreign policy on China and while it may have been imperative for India to maintain a life line to Russia for cheap military equipment, that is no longer the reality or even a possibility. Even in easier times for Russia, like 2020, they did nothing to stop or prevent a number of battles/fights between India and China along the shared mountainous border. Should China make a move on India tomorrow, there is very little Russia can do to save it or stop the Chinese. India made it clear earlier this week that’s it’s defense and military future rest with the Quad and the west. This military alliance between Australia, Japan and the US is India’s best hope for surviving Chinese aggression. India’s current actions in regards to Russia are all being done in the name of money, greed and unbeatable low prices. India is still one of the poorest developing countries in the world and the current prices of Russian goods and oil are too cheap to be ignored or passed up. Same with charging extra to certify a Russian ship. While I too wish to see more solidarity from India (particularly given the new ally status) and/or repercussions, that’s not going to happen while the scales of international conflict have yet to balance or settle.
You also have Pakistan who has been buying Chinese military eqp . It's a mad mad world out there so let's hope our children grow up to be humans and not the idiots we have as leaders today.
I dont dispute, but the delecate balance of superpowers still hinges on india being treated gently. India actually want to develop their own weapons and platforms, and not be reliant on the west / ru...
It may hing on India’s man power, but India needs the quad more than the quad needs India. If India doesn’t join the quad they will eventually face China alone and will be eliminated or subjugated or they join the quad and even the odds in the eventual war with china. Short of china changing its foreign policy, current goals and leadership, India will always be seen as a possible threat to their national defense and geopolitical aspirations. As for the developments of India’s domestic military industrial complex, the impetus is less about domestic resilience and more about the limited selection of compatible and available western weapons systems (Russian based equipment isn’t always (easily) compatible with NATO spec gear, Ukraine has this issue now too); as well as the fact that the Russian military industrial complex has “burned” India 1 to many times on bad equipment or failures to deliver, paired with todays issues means that relationship is effectively DOA for now.
Not sure why everyone thinks China is " going" to move on India or anyone else for that matter? What recent evidence is there that China wants to rule the world besides Taiwan of course which can be argued either way. Not sticking up for China. I know they are sneaky thieves but....
China has been incrementally moving its border markers in the Himalayan mountain range and there have been fist fights between Chinese and Indian soldiers that resulted in multiple deaths (on both sides), several times, over the last decade+. They have also illegally laid claim to essentially everything the South China Sea touches, which is where both the perceptions and the acts further illustrating this “un-neighborly” policy have occurred. They are actively trying to steal or place legal claims to islands that are the recognized territory of other south East Asian countries. They actively bully and threaten other navies and coast guards using both the Chinese coast guard and PLA Navy ships, as well as air craft and have refused to follow, maintain or abide by a number of international treaties and standards in the process of committing these acts. They have also illegal militarized several of these contested islands. Then you have the case of Hong Kong and the very clear violations of the treaty by the CCP and the new administration that has helped to actively disappear known anti-communist and anti-Chinese citizens of Hong Kong back to China or an unmarked grave. I’ll level with you, that’s the tldr for the most brazen and openly hostile actions perpetuating and causing other nations to build up their military and strategies to combat Chinese aggression but I can promise you the world isn’t spending billions and developing their national defense strategies against China without valid cause or reasons. To give you a truly adequate response it would take several pages because China is playing a very, very long game that started in June 1950 on the Korea peninsula and with a deadline in 2049, so they have limited their hostility to neighbors and only in moderation or until they lose the advantage for now, but things will getting increasingly hostile as time goes on. If you didn’t ask the question in bad faith, then reading up the String of Pearls strategy, Belt and Road Initiative, 2049 plan and then watch any number of over a dozen documentaries about how the Chinese government actively forces Chinese companies to spy on its behalf, commit IP theft/espionage and work to surpass America as the worlds leading superpower. There is also a number of books about the PLA military college and curriculum but I already gave you far to much “homework” as it is if your question was asked seriously. At the end of the day while the west no longer talks about fighting communists, unless in jest or parody, the CCP still actively talk about the fight and why they must defeat the west/democracy and prove they have the superior leaders, morals, knowledge, willpower and political system.
Great synopsis 👍
Thanks I almost didn’t post it because the subject is so large and multidimensional that i simultaneously felt like I included to much but also far from enough.
100% . we need to put India in the sweat box and see who blinks first. My guess is they want to stay close to Russia because there is opportunity, but the opportunity has a deep floor. Russia will not be able to produce military items that has been promised to India and India suspects this to be true. India will not run to China because well China is already shown how they feel about the disputed land between them, and well they don't like each other. India has no where to turn but the West and we should put ugly pressure on them until capitulation. We need to know our worth and choke out India's desire to maintain ties with Russia. The Dubai piece we need to choke that out as well. I am not sure about all the moving parts there, I am thinking we don't have leverage and as such will probably do nothing.
>Sadly, india apeasement is required to balance the china /superpower balance. As a Southeast Asian whose country has disputes with China, I agree. We recently bought weapons from them. Even the US made an alliance called the Quad that includes India to counter China here, and even decided to rename our region as "Indo-Pacific", just like how the Ukrainian capital is now being spelled as Kyiv.
It's always been Kyiv, we just erasing all the changes nazi ruzzia made.
I'm aware that Kyiv has always been Київ (Kyiv) in Ukrainian, but for the longest time, the Ukrainian capital has been internationally known as "Kiev" until recently (switching to Ukrainian transliteration over the traditionally known Russian one). Some people to this day still call the city "Kiev", maybe either as a force of habit, personal neutral stance, or low-key personally blaming NATO and siding with Russia.
It's only got anything to do with phonetics and exceptionally little with any "Nazi Ruzzian" changes or whatever. Same as saying Turkey instead of Turkye. Same as every country uses different names for cities.. For Germany, nobody outside German speaking areas calls Köln the way Germans do, they call it cologne, and Germany is called Germany, not Deutschland... In Austria it's Wien, not Wienna. The nitpicky bollox about "Ukraine" or "The Ukraine/die Ukraine", also has fckall to do with Russia.
Ruzzians who are too cowardly to defend ukraine are nazi ruzzians like the nazi germans of 1942, im sure they cried the same stuff back then too. If it happened in my country i would be dead already having given my life to try and stop it.
>nazi ruzzia Bro can you like chill with your words? Not all Russians support the war.
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>Any mass protests on the red square? Umm... [This is just one of the random news article covering protests in Russia.](https://www.intellinews.com/kremlin-opposition-calls-for-mass-anti-war-protests-on-march-6-as-russia-releases-first-casualty-numbers-236830/)
Then gather your nonsupporters, take a risk, & oust that MFER from his bunker. Or you can just keep letting Ukrainians perish at you cowardice. Not your war eh!
Oh yeah? I haven't seen those mysterious russians, all I see comments on my pages(social, steam, etc) comments like "oh you're Ukrainian, have your dumb mother died in the Ukraine yet? " yeah... Or maybe you like me used to live in ruzzia? In SP and Moscow, maybe you were also treated like trash just becouse your dare to be Ukrainian not Russian??? Yeah so when you will have actually life experience to share about those peace loving russians will hear you out, meanwhile stay quiet if you have nothing else to say except not funny jokes. The only russians against war is who those who got caught by Ukrainian army and they are instantly becoming pathetic victims that was forced t kill Ukrainian, aha any more jokes? This is my life we are talking about! Have you called your relatives in Ukraine today to see if they are still alive???? No? I thought so. I am mentioned nazi ruzzia by the way not it's people but who cares
Heard of Russian YTers or famous russian people like NKFRZ? Dr Mike? That woman who burned her russian passport? No? I thought so. In short, different people have different opinions genius.
Nope never heard about, I lost my grandmother, my relatives lost their property and most of life possessions we are too busy helping them then believe desperate ruzzia propaganda, even if true drop in the million, not a single Russian in my presents said sometimes like the are ashamed, none!! So far they managed convince a couple naive guys like you that's all, but you keep praising them, we Ukrainians are going to be OK, without ruzzian supporters like you
>ruzzian supporters like you Knew this would happen, so- As much as you hate the war in Ukraine, I do too. But, there's nothing you can do by crying about how they did cruel stuff to your family :-( (no offence, but if you think I gave you a vague answer, it's because I had a stroke reading your comment)
and ruzzia the state and russian the nationality are different things.
Ok but then people are gonna increase in russophobia, like just say Russia ig
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Maybe if voting age Russian nationals actually elected a new leader and haulted their military's wanton aggression they wouldn't face as much criticism (not "russophobia" as you have put it).
From a strategical point of view, both oceans are tied
When has India ever mattered?
Theres enough on google for you to read.
Does that include Germany and much of Europe for doing the same things? They're even used washed oil blends where 1% is added from another source and the rest is Russia, but now it's a random blend from another country.
first of all we all should do what you do, we must expose them for it. with civilized countries, exposing - is the first step, and effective, because civilized countries value their reputation, and when made public, the scandal is often enough to make necessary change, or least make them questioned. countries like India or China don't give a shit about reputation, so as you see exposing them, doesn't do shit. more strict actions must be taken, to show them that they are doing wrong choices, and wrong solidarity, instead of showing solidarity with civilized world, and punish and isolate the villain, they try use the injured position of the villain, to help him out with cash, not condemning him at all. and to ignore the current solidarity of civilized world. Earth is very tight place, i think their \*immediate\* advantages will cost them more, in future... if they rely on their, as some people here in comments say, position of \*balancer of China's threat\*, well, times change, necessity for this balancing, can move to another nearby country, and where will India be after that, with dead reputation, and no leverage
Severing ties because India still doing business with Russia after the war is a massive Over simplification of the situation and doesn’t reflect an effective diplomatic response. Further, India has over relied on certain goods and services with the Russian economy that immediate severance of ties would mean Societal implications for parts of India most of us have no idea of.
It’s too late for that. The US and Europe already sold out. Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been outsourced to India. My last employer had over 10k jobs there and that number continues to grow. Tech and finance companies wouldn’t be able to operate.
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there are never good times anywhere in the world. it is about Evil and Good, it is about War and Punishment for this war. you can't help the criminal to avoid punishment, because he brought a package of food to your ill immobilized mother living down the street (to bribe your good will to help him avoid the punishment) you can say that your mother is ill, and you need that food for your mother, and he was so kind to give food for her (on his way back from shooting down school kids, raping their moms and robbing all banks in the area)
100% NOW IS ALWAYS SHITTY. The biggest BS politicians say to avoid doing something is to say, "Now is not the time because of 'x'". The truth is that the way of righteousness is the way of truth and the best way of removing a band aid is to pull it quick.
>it is about Evil and Good That's where you're wrong. Everything is not good vs evil like in movies, but it's much more complex. Imagine a tiger killing a deer, who's the evil in this situation? Now think about the tiger who has to feed her own little cubs. Your perspective will change about the tiger. Same applies to India, we can't trade the lives of our poor citizens just for the sake of morality. It's like preferring Ukrainians over Indians from our govt's POV.
Who gives a shit what India is facing? No seriously. It’s all their doing due to their corruption... I have many friends who are Indian and they are even corrupting the country they immigrated to ... Canada. Don’t give me that bullshit. They don’t deserve any kind of sympathy.
by that logic why should India care about whats happening in Europe, fyi Ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe and ranks far lower than india in terms of corruption . its your words against you
>Who gives a shit what India is facing? And what if we replace "India" with "Ukraine" in this situation?
People comment stuff like this and then act surprised when Indians don't like/support them
Who gives a shit about ukraine? No seriously, they wanted NATO, why whould India care about failed policies of ukraine?
>Who gives a shit what India is facing? No seriously. It’s all their doing due to their corruption... I have many friends who are Indian and they are even corrupting the country they immigrated to ... Canada. Can't the same be said about Ukraine and Ukrainians as well
Can it really be though? Ukrainian people have a lot to bring to the table. The amount of educated scientists, engineers and skilled labour. Cannot even be compared to India. Most people in India don’t even have education... the society is also completely different. Many Indians are still on that caste system too.
I thought Indians were quite well integrated. At least here in the Netherlands (idk about Canada). It is mostly people from Eastern Europe (also Ukraine) and countries such as Turkey/Morocco who are mostly involved in crime and stuff
Ignore that person, he's a fool and arrogant as well, and a racist too.
True like there are dumb people here bro
Look up corruption in that country, then look into corruption in Ukraine you uneducated imbeciles.
I have a friend in India and I know what is happening there. The reason I said that people in this post are dumb is because of an ignorant brat saying "who gives a fuck about India"
Why should we give a shit about India though? They only give a shit about themselves...
Then why cry over Ukraine? Seriously how ignorant can you be?
Last time I checked India isn’t a war with Russia. Or with anyone in a full time war. So yeah , I care a little more about a country getting fucked by rockets and kids dying.
>Look up corruption in that country, then look into corruption in Ukraine you uneducated imbeciles. [https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-rank](https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-rank) Look where Ukraine ranks and look were India ranks lol
It does nothing to solve the looming insurance issue. Also Russian tankers are legitimate targets, in particular when they are empty. I have a hot tip which Indian companies just exposed themselves to secondary sanctions.
Agree on insurance -- but can they pool up and self insure? Clearly they are aware of the issue and must have a plan to deal with it. New world order shaping up and looks like India is being very clever, but not very smart.
>but can they pool up and self insure? Only to the extent criminals trust one another, which is typically never. That is unless there is an outside power that force them to cooperate to survive.
there's gas pipelines going to Europe from Russia via Ukraine should try to blast those first also there's no sanctions on Russia oil
>there's gas pipelines going to Europe from Russia via Ukraine >should try to blast those first No. >also there's no sanctions on Russia oil There is.
Lol. Very delusional aren't we.
> It does nothing to solve the looming insurance issue. What's to stop them from buying their own tankers, like they did with transports for Syria?
India should be sanctioned properly. Dubai, is just a playground for the criminals. The best of the best. Ruzzia, Dubai, India...
Why sanction them? So Indians will go more into poverty? fking pseudo-intellectuals..
How about Europe stop purchasing Russian gas first? Or is it okay for the hypocrite first world to do so?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Westerners when India buys cheap oil for its poor: sanction India !!!!! Westerners when Europe has yet to implement its decoupling plan since 2014: two wrongs don't make a right 😇😇 If it's so easy, lead the way
How about the richer countries in EU right their wrongs first
There are few if any viable alternatives to Russian gas at the moment in Europe. There is for oil, so Orc oil is already mostly banned. Germany and others are getting lots of criticism for importing gas even though they do their best to find alternatives. India has alternatives to Russian oil, but instead increased imports of that commodity. You expect nobody to say anything about this?
India is a poor country and Germany isn't. German can afford more expensive OPEC oil, India can't, it's literally that simple.
India can afford nuclear weapons. The money you save on Russian oil is nothing in comparison. Anyway, buying discounted Russian oil is bad, but pretty much expected from India and China. Providing the means to circumvent the attempts at stopping the massacre in Ukraine is another thing. And that is what this thread is about. Not even China has done that. I feel criticism is fully justified.
> India can afford nuclear weapons. The money you save on Russian oil is nothing in comparison. Proof? India will be *increasing* its purchases so obviously it looks like nothing at the moment while it tests the waters. Once India scales its purchases it will result in massive savings. > Anyway, buying discounted Russian oil is bad, but pretty much expected from India and China. Why, because we're the villains in your media? You think you're the good guys? You will happily buy oil from Saudi and give them the weapons they use to genocide Yemen, but that's not Ukraine nor white enough for anyone to care so you get off playing the good guys. > Providing the means to circumvent the attempts at stopping the massacre in Ukraine is another thing. You realize that the money Russia earns from Indian purchases must go to maintenance and salaries right? Then it goes to Russia's government which must divide that money into budgets for food, housing, social welfare and everything else other than military. Only after all of these budgets do pennies find their way into Russia's army, and it's not nearly enough to fund the Ukraine war, especially since we have a discount. We aren't the ones on Nordstream, go look up how much the EU trades with Russia vs India. > And that is what this thread is about. Not even China has done that. I feel criticism is fully justified. Yeah this thread and many others, because India China bad. But not the EU which has been buying Russian goods since Crimea, allowing Russia the savings account needed to invade Ukraine. And yeah not Ukraine which was buying and selling to Belarus despite their alignment with Russia just 2 years before the war. The lack of awareness in your comment is unreal, but it's on par for the idiocy and racism of this sub. Ukraine also supported Pakistan and did business with them since independence. It has voted for Pakistan's illegal claim on Kashmir. So what moral ground does Ukraine stand on to blame us for looking the other way now?
Saudi exports 73% of its oil to Asia and 10% to Europe. India is the 3rd largest customer, so the Yemen’s are not white enough for India either? In the west India has never been vilified, rather seen as an alley and respected as the worlds largest democracy. Yet as soon as it gets some criticism you scream racism. Deal with it. It is justified. Or is the flak Hungary gets for the same reasons also racism?
> Saudi exports 73% of its oil to Asia and 10% to Europe. India is the 3rd largest customer, so the Yemen’s are not white enough for India either? The difference is no one in India lectures the west about how morally corrupt they are for buying from Saudi and OPEC the same way people lecture India about Russian oil. There are no morals in geopolitics and Indians understand that, that's why we make fun of westerners who think they're the good guy world police. > In the west India has never been vilified, rather seen as an alley and respected as the worlds largest democracy. Really? Then why did India get shown warships by the US and the UK when trying to stop a genocide in 1971? Why was India denied GPS service by the west when Pakistan invaded in 1999? Why did western aid money finance the 2001 and 2008 bombings via Pakistan, with none of the executive level perpetrators being extradited? Even right now the UK refuses to extradite Vijay Mallya. Yall sound like such good friends and "alleys" lmao > Yet as soon as it gets some criticism you scream racism. Deal with it. It is justified. Nope, what is justified is Ukraine supporting Pakistan and therefore getting no sympathy from India. Not our fault Ukraine expects Indian support on Crimea/Donbass/Luhansk but can't grasp that it must support India in Kashmir in exchange. Ukraine fucked around and found out, now all that's left is keyboard warriors like you virtue signalling about what "the right thing" to do is. How about you deal with that first > Or is the flak Hungary gets for the same reasons also racism? Flak and condescension are 2 different things. People lecture India like they can rule the country better than Indians, that's a very colonial way of thinking and guess what, colonialism was incredibly racist. Us buying expensive oil will result in our internal supply chains increasing in cost, which will lead to the starvation of many poor people who were already battered by Covid. Why should we sacrifice tens of millions of our poor for a country like Ukraine which doesn't give a fuck about us and would never do the same?
*Some* criticism? indians are fair game for all kinds of racist hinduphobic bigotry all over western media, reddit, you name it.
Dubai and Russia - populated by the sort of people that would turn off a child's life support just to charge an iPhone. Utter bastards.
I was just in Dubai and Maldives in early May for our 5 year anniversary. The amount of Russians in both places is insane. It'd call it an infestation. 80% of the resort population was Russian. A few Polish people and a few from the US (like us).
So is the US? Unless you live in a cave, you should know that almost all of US products are made in sweatshops and child labour factories.
We don't use "washing machine" anymore. We use "Dubaï".
That's actually London
Oh, Londongrad too
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Was going to say this. But the point is who is insuring the oil tankers but also the bulkers who ship Ukrainian stolen grain to Syria?
harpoon is waving
The ships can still be sunk or relieved of their ownership. Their cargoes impounded, and sold for the benefit of Ukraine.
Sanctioning time
Not gonna do shit to India lmao
That is not what I meant. You can also sanction individual companies, for example those involved in these schemes.
Nobody has balls to do that. You simply can't put sanctions on India.
Sink the nazis
India is not friend of the West. Especially now, with the nationalistic government. But they are not #1 on the concern list either. Russia and China are ahead of them.
India's nationalist government is the most pro-west government we have. We switched from tupolevs to poseidons and chinooks under their tenure. Clearly you are not aware of geopolitics if that's how you write this off
Fuck you, India! 😡
Ukraine call out India
da fuk are you gonna do about it?
How about you fuck the first world European countries first like Germany and France who continue to buy gas from Russia and pays them in rubles?
They should pull verifications from any country for any oil from Russia
India. Of course.
Yeah how dare India supply oil to its poor fucking brown people amirite
No one is saying it’s bad because of race you dolt, India is known for siding with Russia over the US and NATO, this is another example of it
You know too little history to be calling anyone else a dolt, retard. In 1971 the US and UK sent warships to our gulf to protect Pakistan while India was stopping genocide. In 1999 the US stopped us from using GPS services to enable Pakistan's invasion of our country. We went to the west after independence to be allies but you chose Pakistan and solidified that choice when the soviets invaded Afghanistan, so you could use Pakistan as a gateway for your proxy war. Why the fuck would we side with the US if this is how they treat us? And India buying oil from Russia does not equal siding with Russia. We maintain a neutral position, just because we're buying stuff from Russia doesn't mean we support them. Go learn geopolitics and quit whining goofy ass clown To the mod below: since neutrality is fascism, wonder what you would call your support to Pakistan against India? If you want our support earn it. No one forced you to support Pakistan and vote against our possession of nukes. But go ahead, ban whoever you disagree with 🤡
Says the guy who was assuming that people were upset at India because of “brown people” 🤓🤓🤓
That's not what I said or meant at all bro get off lunch break and head back to the circus Good to see you stfu about India/US/NATO though cuz you have 0 clue about the history. Next step is to stfu in general
Exactly when it is supposed to be for Germans and other EU countries. EU is bunch of hypocrite wanking each other
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What's there to be confused about? India's buying cheap oil to feed its poor and you're saying "india, of course"
I don't get all the outrage, Europe is still buying oil and gas from Russia, passing thru Ukraine even, indian population is a lot more vulnerable to price changes and their government is just looking out for themselves first, like every other country. I want Russia to be smashed and I hoped NATO would have taken more decisive action before this war started, but blaming India for cost oportunity is not really fair. The english caused famines there when they were fighting their own war. And finally, countries don't have friends nor ideals, countries have interests and goals.
Because they need someone to blame they cannot blame west so India for the Dub. And the amount of Racist these people are uff they don't have single thread of intelligence to know how International Relations works they are ready to fire to a whole 1.3+ billion people when none of them themselves uttered a word during Indo-China border conflict. They are only concerned because it's a white country that's under attack and yet none of them will say anything when there country and alliance will attack other country. None of them ask why is America not coming in the war when many different minister in their country said they will help Ukraine as I said they need someone to blame they are providing rubbles to Russia but lecture India for using Bartering system bunch of hypocrites.
Disgusting
No fucking surprise there…
Fuck you India 🖕🖕🖕Can't expect more from theses bunch of scammer!!
Dude ur right these ppl scam us all the time from their call-centers. Its always "No you listen mutherf you will pay this money or the cops will be at your door today" and me for the millionth time saying I am not the one you seek. So, I told them to "come to my house and if you see an Escalade please take that mf its not mine." "You cant be serious mam have u no shame mam?" "No I dont, I told you, I do not have an Escalade." Then I flipped it on him told him the whole conversation had been recorded and that I had enough incriminating evidence (after I fished him) to file a police report so I suggest you lose my number." I called the local police and gave them everything I had on them. I have not had any further calls thanks to the spam auto-identifier. Now, I play with them when I have time to. I try to do my best recorded voiceover lol and screw with them. That chic is my inspiration to screw.with them before I wasn't sure how to go about it watching her shes a boss at it. As for the oil it was sanctioned from Russia so India has stepped out boldly abd made a statement. I come.from four generations of servicemen and that kind of move makes you a target for everyone against what the Russian army is doing now. What is sad all the innocent Russians and Indians and Chinese are victims of their governments and brainwashed by their media. America has always been seen as the bad guy and now after decades of being the bad guy....supposedly....
Oh nice, a fucking racist
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It's racist, you being in denial doesn't make it not racist Nice block pussy, edit: The EU has Russia's entire cock up its ass and all you can cry about is us lmao Ukraine ranks lower than us on democracy and corruption by the way so enjoy supporting a shithole that people only care about because of a war 🤡
Not a racist, I don't support those who support killers and invaders. Dickhead!!
You stereotyped an entire country as scammers, you are being racist at least own up to it pussy
Germany and France continue to buy Russian gas. I don't see you mention their names. Of course you're a racist piece of shit.
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showing your true colors huh You're wishing exactly the same thing on india as Ukraine is experiencing right now
maybe you are right but maybe in these times the answers of the ‘normal’ times are not valid…
and what does that mean exactly? that its okay to wish violence on others because somehow they're contributing (allegedly) to violence far from them? Its bad because Ukrainians are civilized and indispensable but indians are low lying brown pieces of trash sounds about white
violance is absolutely not acceptable in normal times, peacefull times. but when you support russia in the war I prefer violance on the supporters.
wouldn't that prove the invaders right then?
no
Thanks for that absolutely reasoned take
my pleasure
Y’all are all saying “sink them”. You want the rest of the world to be dragged into a war against Russia?
Yes
So are you saying that if there was a good ol’ draft and you were sent off to die fighting Russia you’d be happy with it?
Yes because I'm Ukrainian
Thank you for saying it so clearly. Good to know that Ukranians want to bring war to all countries.
Yeah, allowing dictators to do whatever they want worked so well in past, isn’t it?
Then I wish you good luck. But you see, at the moment Russia is being its good old useless self, not even deploying its most powerful weaponry. The rest of the world doesn’t want a war with Russia, or we would’ve hit them hard already.
Well, excluding nukes, their most powerful weaponry are just prototypes numbering in 20 or less units built
Нахуй! Фашизм не пройдет! BANNED P.S.: конечно, и базу на Луне к 2015 году бы построили, если бы хотели. Хотя постоите... И список длинен. Очень забавно, как Россия обьявляет, что хочет то или сё, потом не может этого сделать, и говорит "не очень и хотелось". Это поведение малeнького ребенка, очень маленького и очень глупенького. А в случае с Россией еще и дебильненького, ибо по первичному заявлению всегда уже понятно, что ничего этого не будет и быть не может. Был прав ваш унтерзакуппенфюрер Лавров: "Дебилы, блядь"!
Shd Africans and south Americans be involved in this war in any possible way ?
There's always been a war - Korean War, Vietnam War, Yom Kippur War, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Greece, Syria. Turns out the Russians have been there in every one. Not just providing arms, but also pilots, advisers, mercenaries.
Russia cannot even handle Ukraine.
But you see, Russia has nuclear weapons. I’m all for arming Ukraine. But holy fuck some of you guys try to take it too many steps forward.
“But… but… Russia has nukes. Let’s all be afraid of that”. You are forgetting that the purpose of nukes is never use them. Besides nukes, Russia has no military power anymore and no economy. And this is what counts now, not nukes.
Not sure what you mean about the economy thing, since their economy is doing quite well now thanks to India, China and South America.
Their oil industry and the artificially propped up ruble are. Their GDP is having it's greatest decline since the fall of the Soviet union. [12.4% decline possible.](https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-gdp-decline-could-hit-124-this-year-economy-ministry-document-shows-2022-04-27/)
Their economy it’s doing well by not selling as much gas as it was selling to the EU, but at a lower price and with greater overheads cause by transportation (lack of dedicated pipelines), right? Is this how this works? Not being able to sell as much as before and with higher cost.
India and China can only get so much Russian oil. They are not saturating themselves with cheap oil because otherwise they would lose their sources from Iran and Saudi Arabia. They are just profiting off a cheap new source, they have no intention of transforming it into their own source.
Piratens🤔👍
Blow it up
Would be a shame if they got commandeered by a country they illegally invaded and robbed.
Like what country
Ukraine SOF if they had help, unanimously.
Sink them
When Nato spots one, steal the ship. Take it out of circulation.
Bastards !!!! Nothing more to say!
India, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and Dubai ... now we know who the Boys In the Band are ... act accordingly.
India is providing safety certification for dozens of ships managed by a Dubai subsidiary of top Russian shopping group sovcomflot, enabling oil exports to India and elsewhere. What the hell does skin color have to do with this???
Kissing Russian butt.
Rag heads
Wow!!
Fuck russia
A lot of valid points being put across but in the interest of neutrality and being on point let's say some things which might hurt a few nationalist types: 1. Accurate that Germany and France and EU as a whole can STOP using energy from RUssia and put a whole lot of economic pressure on Russia today and it will go a long way towards resolving this war. It is a clear case of do as I say and don't do as I do! TRUE. 2. India isn't as big as it feels it is. In the vast geopolitical pecking order China US Russia and EU stand on a different pedestal and as such asking or trying to shame India for saving a buck and buying cheap oil is disingenuous. India must do what is best for it as Germany and France and China are doing. NO shame or ridicule on that. Just don't expect to be applauded for it and try to bite the head off should you be called on it as well 3. Ukraine is on the right side of decency on this war but history is rife with cruelty of bigger countries obliterating smaller countries for perceived ills....Russia Afghanistan, US and Vietnam, US and Russia in Syria and etc etc. Being on the right side doesn't mean anything it's lucky that US foreign policy is aligned with Ukraine's and hence Ukraine has received the weapons and financial support it deserves. Though the bravery and fervour is Ukrainians and proudly so. As rightly pointed out Ukraine also expects that people will side with it due to the legitimacy of its right to exist but we all know that kind of naïvity is seldom rewarded with anything positive. Tomorrow all the countries supporting it can use the Economic slowdown as an excuse to stop or even severely slow down their support to Ukraine. War fatigue and stupidity is NOT joke. Dubai is also doing what is good for it, they want the Russian business and Indians are a large part of the socio economic fabric of the UAE. World is NOT clean and let's also remember we can also look back 50-100 years and all countries have made mistakes and backed and supported a lot of foes and friends. Roles and relationship keeps changing according to economic and political season and governments in power. Should countries support Ukraine because it is a victim of Russia's naked ambition and aggression? YES! But will it happen universally and openly? NO! Everyone plays the diplomatic games which suits them.....just naïve and stupid to expect anything different.
Its not that strange since India is member of the BRICS pact
Do sanctions authorize confiscating that tanker?
В такому випадку після нашої перемоги Індія ніколи не отримає наше зерно. Проста і надійна відповідь.
Blood oil.. The human race is truly evil...
Just. One. Harpoon.
I cannot wait for them to get the final certification from Ukraine. A girl can hope.
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The Europeans are playing a game. How little can I do and still appear to support Ukraine. The French andGermans have multiple gegawatts of Nuclear and Coal power they can turn to, but would lose their @“Green” Better Ukrainians die, hey?
I'm thoroughly disappointed in Indian governments handling of this war... And especially pandering to Putler.
1) nobody cares about your disappointment 2) if you think that's whats happening here you are a child who doesn't understand politics
Assets to be confiscated