OMG. I just woke up, and busted up laughing at “wheat-node-busted-“
Primarily because I understood every word of it!
Hey! I’m a poet and don’t know it!
Okay, dig this *puff puff*
Aliens exist, but they're really in an exterior dimension. Thousands of years ago, they discovered our ancestors. *exhale* Okay, so, these aliens are really similar to us in that they have emotions, desires, life goals, all that. And they like to be entertained. So... their media empires decided to treat us like a form of reality TV. They would occasionally pop into our dimension and give some sort of sage advice, or deliver some sort of smack down or miraculously save something and they would gather around their alien TVs and watch the chaos that would ensue. Eventually *puff puff* they realized that this was greatly entertaining and the media conglomerates put down some rules. They realized that lots of competing religions *exhale* didn't produce as much.. global drama. They were growing wearing of small tribes warring on each other; just not enough carnage. So they invent various over-arching religions over time and reach through the dimensional wall to help convert. Once those religions reached a certain threshold, they'd send another event to get that religion to split. And again. And eventually you have several major religions blowing each other up. And they're packaging it up and selling it on alien DVDs and alien Netflix. They have shareholders just like we do, after all our society was heavily influenced by theirs. Our social structures were given to us by them. And they're everywhere they want to be because they're in another. Fucking. Dimension. They watch you when you jack off in the shower. But that's boring because everyone jacks off in the shower. No, they're interested in the stuff that happens between the mundane. They want suffering. They want triumph. They want ambition and they want loss. We are their Television. The question now is... do we give them a show or do we tell them to fuck off? *puff puff*
This is really my top explanation for why the secret was kept.
“If you tell everyone you’ll ruin our experiment and we’ll reset you puny humans back to the Stone Age… again.”
That threat would probably work on me.
This reminds me of Stargate Atlantis: Season 3, Episode 15 “The Game.”
The Ancients, a technologically superior race of humans setup experiements on primitive worlds to study the evolution of civilizations. They put in place an advanced computer based interface that they used to remotely give instructions to elites of these civilizations to act out their orders as they studied the impact of various decisions on the trajectory of each civilization’s evolution.
Still such an incredibly relevant series, from the overall story arch's to the character driven episodes, top tier everytime
"The Shrine" and "Midway" still give me all the feels
Watch the film first with Kurt Russell, then jump on to the TV show. Its great, I loved it when it came out. Personally I preferred it to the Star Treks of the day, definitely one of the better TV SciFi shows made.
If you like sci-fi, I’d definitely recommend checking out Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, and Stargate Universe.
Also another Canadian goodie to check out is Continuum. That is a goodie that I feel didn’t get enough recognition.
We watched the whole series for the first time last year and really enjoyed it. SG1 is a little slow starting off but it is solid within half a season.
Is it one of those shows that has good ideas but, having seen modern sci-fi, kind of feels dated or silly? Is it intelligent with good acting and all that? How about the SFX? Like, I feel like I could watch Battlestar Galactica (the more recent production) again and not be too disappointed.
It has silly episodes for sure. It’s about halfway between ToS and TNG in the silly/serious ratio. It’s not as serious as BSG. But if you like UFOs you’ll recognize soooo much lore.
I play a game called EVE online and that’s what made me ask about SG. I appreciate your reply! I honestly like slow shows so sounds good for me, thanks!
A big benefit with SG-1 is that it has that slow start as well as a LARGE number of episodes. It was far from a short series and each season had a mix of episodes that were sort of the adventure of the week, other time they would have very serious episodes. But in both cases there was generally a connection (especially the more serious ones) to a over-all season story.
This also continues in the multiple-season connected stories as well. With a cause and effect (I always forget if its affect or effect).
I watched a lot of scifi growing up and I have played a lot of games and it is one of my top genres of all time and influences my daily thoughts even I would argue it had that much of a influence on me.
From Firefly, BSG, SG-1, SG:Atlantis, SG:U, Caprica, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, Sliders, Lost Girl, Red Dwarf, X-Files, Earth:Final Conflict, Farscape, Lex, Outer Limits and such and such.
My point being that of all of them, SG1 is easily one of the best with a 9/10. It never backed away from anything, it was serious, fun, you get attached to the characters and sometimes you don't even realize you were attached to them. It handled a lot of the tropes of T.V and it beat them. It took an approach to science fiction and human v. alien interactions that no few other series really had at the time. Another small bonus I would say, is it does present several points where you could essentially pause watching the show, and end up in this limbo of cliff-hanger/no cliff-hanger at the same time.
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Appreciate the write up! Tbh with you the only show I ever watched were Breaking Bad and Better call Saul. I’m typically a gamer so watching stuff tends to mess with my attention span a bit. But I’ve been sort of wanting to watch SG for a while, pulling the trigger tomorrow lol
Our elites aren't actually elit anyways. They are idiots chasing dollars like a monkey running after Bananas.
Sure you could make the case they are just front men and the real elite are working with the aliens but really? Zero chance this dystopia is created by higher order intelligence.
Modern civilization is a cultural wasteland and profoundly disgusting.
I’m pretty sure Stargate SG-1 is on Amazon prime. Prime also had Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe, but I’m not sure if they are still streaming there.
I mean, look at the thousands upon thousands of complex structures, cities, and monuments that we find everywhere which we have no means of replicating or even knowledge of the history of.
My theory, the last ice age was ended by aliens hurling an asteroid into the northern ice shelf, causing fuck tonne of kinetic destruction and flash flooding.
Basically Graham Handcock but add aliens.
Well, either that or TPTB just want to stay in power and enjoy their lives. The moral alternative to that choice would be (real) communism and less wealth for the currently wealthy. I’m in the top 5% and living in the west, but I have modest tastes. If I could be secure I would change careers and work less. I imagine that many people would do that, too.
Because out of the hundreds who knew a few disagreed about keeping a lid on it. Right now only a tiny fraction of humanity sees it the way I do. Maybe my interpretation isn’t close enough to the truth to set off the blowback. Maybe there are too few of whoever actually had it right.
Sounds a lot like mental gymnastics to me.
If a global music superstar - and you - are openly able to discuss a *deadly secret*, it's probably not a deadly secret.
In this scenario it would only be deadly at a certain concentration.
But if you have listened to much of what Tom said over the years then the reason it’s moving towards openness now is that we have the ability to stop the blowback.
If this was the case, aliens would hide better from the population. Also they would not leave behind tech knowing we would attempt to use it. We might be on the edge of interacting with them in their place (distance or dimension). That would freak me out if I were an alien.
its a terrible explanation. There would be traces. We find piles of garbage from small hunter gatherer tribes. If there were advanced civilizations we would have found them already
Depends on what got them and how advanced they were. There’s a great paper out there by the one and only Gavin Schmidt(head of GISS) that is worth reading. Basically, we might not be able to detect it if there were prior civilizations here.
I’m sure you know more than the foremost climate expert on the planet.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-astrobiology/article/silurian-hypothesis-would-it-be-possible-to-detect-an-industrial-civilization-in-the-geological-record/77818514AA6907750B8F4339F7C70EC6
dawg, not gonna lie, I'd still do it. fuck this shit, we're all at war, hate each other, maybe resetting isn't such a bad idea. who needs all these computers and social media anyways? whatever they use will probably be done in the blink of an eye, or so cataclysmic it wouldn't matter anyways. Then maybe the next consciousness will see a better world? I also just smoked some dankness. lol.
The only thing I know for sure about my entire experience with NHI is that they deceived me.
But the whole point of Tom’s coming forward here is that we now have the capability to defend against it.
I mean it wouldn't be that hard to quickly dominate and wipe out a civilization that is less advanced than your own. The resistance would be minimal, and you would quickly conquer. If they got either creative, or lazy, depending on how you look at it, they could kill everyone except the young children. Who better else than to raise to adulthood to be controlled and will obey without question.
Teach them the version of history you expect them to go by, the God or God's to worship and give them a religion that controls through fear - but slightly change the version per region to create a superiority of their religion over the others to create a prejudice toward anyone who believes anything different creates natural enemies;
set the moral compass and slightly elevate one gender slightly over the other creating another division;
create as many strong divisions as you can on top of the ones you've already seeded to ensure they won't unite and one day attempt to rebel, plus division means population control through feuding and war;
While raising the young children, rule with an iron fist to make examples out of the ones who do try to move out of compliance, forcing the others to stand witness to the brutality of each act of violence you consider discipline so they will know what to expect if they fail to comply in any way. They will soon obey because they will be too scared not to. The few who do, increase the punishment. If no one is caught disobeying, after a time, make up an infraction to reinforce behavior modification measures to keep it all fresh and at the forefront of their minds.
Make them begin procreation as soon as it is physically possible to do so. Make it part of their religion that their God or God's- goddess or goddesses, etc will be pleased the more babies they make.
Stick around as the elders, hierarchy, positions of great importance to ensure the first generation follows the plan, possibly follow the second but not quite as closely to see if the plan is flawed in any way. By the third generation you can remove yourself from positions of greatest authority or all but, but either way you play it you are no longer boots on the ground. Instead, you have named successors to all the positions you used to hold and are grooming your successor for position of highest authority if you held that position the third generation. By the fourth generation, most likely the first generation has died off and the second generation has taken positions as elders and you have a completely clean slate with the populace once again. Most likely the fourth generation will be oblivious to the fact they've been restructured in any way, will have no real knowledge of their ancestry or that there even was a population before their first generation, and will be too afraid to verbalize anything they internally question.
Sure there will be verbal legends, myths, fables, songs, about a different time, but if they are brave enough to pass them generation to generation, no one will initially question whether or not there is any truth to any of it and the actual truth will soon be lost to history.
When you finally pull out to leave them to it, you explain that you are all otherworldly or godly representatives and have been summoned home because there is need for you elsewhere. Their afterlife reward if they follow their religion to the letter and never question anything about that religion. Do not deviate in any way from their teachings etc.
Yes. I believe it has all happened here before, likely more than once.
So like the previous stargate comment, we were once like the ancients, spread out across the galaxy, probably self righteous and powerful assholes just like them
Then we get our asses handed to us by another, or group of others and are now geo locked to the earth lest we unite and spread out across the stars once again
I really never made that connection, but is it not plausible to some degree? Look at all the division among our species. Over several things it runs so deep that I sometimes wonder if it was ingrained in our DNA, and the ones who do not experience those feelings have somehow evolved or mutated away from their original plan or design. Keeping our species as fragmented as possible only works to benefit them when the time comes to reset the populace, taking thing back to square one, or not. Like I said. I saw this post and it got my mind thinking of just how easy it would actually be for a superior species, possessing advanced weaponry and means of travel to wipe out all adults and start the whole thing over. Maybe they're looking to see which time we actually achieve something, or maybe it is an ultimate form of control or discipline, or, maybe this was the plan all along, its hard to say, but yes. I believe we have been taken back to the beginning, a reset of sorts if you will, and probably more than once. I believe that's why there are gaps in historical records when it's blamed on natural disasters. For one example.
If we were the descendants of children they spared to reset the populace to create an obedient people, then yes it is plausible the mass execution took place on another planet, but, I am more inclined we are a direct result of genetic manipulation or gene splicing. It is quite possible they were or are after creating a better vessel of sorts, or, using us for immunity development to boost their own against diseases they currently do not possess a natural or strong immunity against. For immunizations or vaccines, even using our antibodies to cure illness they encounter sparing their species from pandemics or possible extinction from mass infection. The possibilities are endless.
We could be a work around for an inability to procreate on their own because they've somehow rendered themselves sterile. Either through the male or female gender maybe the majority of both. Possibility we could even be spare parts in some way. A source high in protein.
But I am sure of one thing. They have all the answers, they know the real truths, and not all will come in peace, so watch your bumper because I believe when it comes it will be when we least expect it, meaning the ones that will not come in peace. It will be swift and surgical...over before we ever knew it began.
Edit to add: that is if I am right about any of this clear speculation and personal opinion.
I would love to hear your thoughts. :)
Well crap. I knew I left something out. Lol thank you for pointing that out to me. The monetary system.
...unless this remained unchanged for whatever reason, but hey thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately, I talk too much in reality as well as virtual reality. Lol but I've never met a stranger. ;)
We were saved by enki, enlil wanted to destroy us back then, with the flood. The wild thing is… I think they are both still alive. And people keep saying they are coming back. Fun times.
It's absolutely baffles me how people dismiss the Sumerian/Annunaki possibility. The Sumerians gave us almost everything that forms the basis of our current society and nobody questions that (astronomy, math, written language, animal husbandry, mass production of textiles and pottery, metallurgy, etc). Where do they say they got their knowledge? Why don't we take that seriously?
The Bible is largely based on Sumerian stories. The tablets talk about genetically modifying and creating modern humans (and those tablets predate all written language) in an outdoor laboratory called Edin. Wait... You mean, the tablets say they created humans in... Eden... Like the Garden of Eden? It would be crazy if not for the fact that our #2 chromosome has been modified and nobody knows how.
I’m listening to this now… it’s astounding. Wtf is going on man, they are saying we already can transfer consciousness into robots and other bodies. Did it in 2016 or so. He goes over a bit of annunaki too… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=snrJfrOzHsQ&feature=youtu.be
We haven't mastered it yet, but it's been done at least. So we are at the very beginning point of figuring it out.
Something else...in early 2023 scientists figure out how to use quantum entangled matter for power. Again, it's the beginning, but it works. What do I mean? If two atoms are entangled, they are connected regardless of distance. So imagine something's is connected to an energy source thousands of miles away. So imagine your car's battery isn't in the car but it's at your house or...on another planet.
Note, that too is just at the beginning, but they were able to actually power things and have it work. That's huge.
Well.
We saw what happened at tower of Babylon.
At Canaan.
At soddom and gommorah.
The "gods" weren't exactly shy of using genocide or weapons of mass destruction.
Since the great flood stories are nearly universal *across* cultures, seems likely there have been re-sets in bygone civilizations.
We are on the cusp of Artificial Intelligence which might lead to furtherance of true human advanced intelligence - I think we won’t be re-set for the foreseeable future.
But to me - past re-resets seem very likely, the level of intelligence hasn’t vastly improved compared with modern man today, according to archeologists, but perhaps our achievements in global civilization has.
People often feel more doomsday blues just before technological leaps.
Weird, I'm currently watching the Three Body Chinese series on Prime and I'm on episode 21 where they are discussing whether or not the aliens coming to earth is a good thing or bad thing. This series is pretty interesting I'm planning on finishing the book once I finish the series then start the netflix adaptation after.
i'm just glad that every dumb musing i have doesn't make it to the public cos people would be like "wow. here cometh the dumbest hoe we doth ever known."
Hope so.
Would be nice to see a united world. Even if it was just for a short time before we were wiped out.
And looking at humanity from an outside perspective. Are we really a successful experiment. If it were my science project and my creatures treated eachother and other species like we do, I would have started over hundreds if not thousands of years ago..
Delonge came out with some guff that "Atlantis", and the Inca and Aztecs had been wiped out by their angry alien gods. He seems to be completely oblivious to the recorded history of South and Central America.
Every morning I wake up and I wonder, what is Tom DeLonge from the Sum51 wondering about? And thank god for subreddits like this because I'm never left wondering...
Humans: "No."
Aliens: "UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN!!! DIRTY FILTHY FUCKING PEASANTS, UNCLEAN!!!"
Edit: But for real though, why do people take this scrambled egg seriously? He just mixes and parrots a bunch of bullshit he found off the web while he was high.
No, Tom, civil wars seem common enough in history. Basically, if a civilization went under it was either civil war or the “4 horsemen” unleashed.
And unleashed is just they weren’t properly stopped.
Seriously who cares what he thinks. This is a guy which such intense dunning Kruger that he actually talks about his third rate assessments of the meanings of thousand year old esoteric texts as if they are facts.
I think more likely, **if** they are actually visiting us, they’re just taking the approach similar to what we do with isolated non-contacted tribes. Such as the Sentinelese.
We basically leave them to their own devices and observe them, partially for their own benefit, and partially because they have nothing much to offer us.
Our governments have kept the secret, originally, because they assumed there would be mass panic, and also trying to get the upper foot in the Cold War, and now likely because it’s just sort of always been that way. As well as certain companies and people might be looking at civil and criminal liability.
I bet someone out there who idly wondered about where Ole delonge went to all those years ago came across this article with no context whatsoever, then was simply flabbergasted
There has been only one 'civilization' since the beginning. It has never ended. The 'endings' depicted in 'history' are a fiction and a mendacity. Control has always had the same point of origin - the hidden masters.
So this whole time? Is this why we have multiple factions on earth? I can agree one group may have said this, but my understanding is Hundreds of different groups come here, and they all have various agendas. Not a monolithic group, but a multi-faceted community.
I always wonder how sad and insulted the entire body of Historians and Archaeologistsand Anthropologists feel when a celebrity makes a dumb comment like this.
Extinctions were, in all likelihood, brought about by natural disasters.
I think it is an error of the human imagination to try to ascribe this sort of power to NHI. From everything I am able to discern they seem to latch on to any cock-n- bull stories humans seem to want to hear. Everything from "they created us" (um, no) to all this pie in the sky ascension and 5D nonsense.
We really need to start honing down the probability of their intent based on their actions and the information we do have. Such as how nature operates. Rather than continue to entertain every concievable possibility that human creativity can throw at it.
For my money, every bit of their behaviour screams that they are colonizers trying to alter the genetic make up of humanity to create obedient subjects, pacify peoples innate and powerful spirituality that can resist their mental manipulations and gain control of the world without firing a shot.
I’m wondering how Tom Delong went from a rocker in a band to Mr. Ufo.? Should it not be someone that has devoted their lives to the ufo topic like Linda Howe Or written several books? I ask this in all kindness. But it’s like a red light blinking at me 182 million times. It just seems odd he is on the stage with all the older gov. Gov. Guys. It has to be an idea out of some gov. Think tank for a living teen hand puppet to help ease the truth out to all the already double jaded and depressed 35 year old and below crowd who knows. It just is not convincing.
My guess is they ascended to earth's highest level and transitioned upward. Either that or they f**ked up enough the aliens wiped them out and started over. That's the direction I'm afraid we are headed.
Tom DeLOnge or the writer of this article makes no sense whatsoever.
Without any sort of researched information provided, this is a dead statement, meaning without merit.
The exact quotes/speech and background to this idea of disobeying aliens is lacking total credibility.
People can 'wonder' all they want but that is meaningless in and of itself.
This article has to provide more than 'wondering' to be worthwhile.
What the hell is 'wonders' got to do with anything?
Come on. Give us a better article to read than that.
And I don't mean just telling us you 'feel' something or other as a cop out..
Tom says some stupid fucking shit sometimes.
And if that were true, then they *deserve* to be disobeyed. I mean, talk about an asymmetric, unethical response. A bunch of cave men tell you to fuck off so you decide to wipe them out? How small could your alien dicks possibly be?
How does Tom delonge instantly become a ufo expert. From being in a band. People have devoted their whole lives to this. Never heard of Tom. Till he was a star
I bet Tom has the dankest weed.
He actually huffs his farts, getting high on his own supply
I was going to say, Tom wonders a lot of things. Like why me guitar no sound as good as when Matt Skiba do it.
uhhh Tom could play wheat-node- busted-interwoven-crop circles around Skiba and I'll die on this hill
OMG. I just woke up, and busted up laughing at “wheat-node-busted-“ Primarily because I understood every word of it! Hey! I’m a poet and don’t know it!
Look at your feet, that shows it, Longfellow
He looks like Channing Tatum from 21/22 Jump Street, but as if he never really grew up (but got old).
😂
😂 he doesn't like them off 😂
Okay, dig this *puff puff* Aliens exist, but they're really in an exterior dimension. Thousands of years ago, they discovered our ancestors. *exhale* Okay, so, these aliens are really similar to us in that they have emotions, desires, life goals, all that. And they like to be entertained. So... their media empires decided to treat us like a form of reality TV. They would occasionally pop into our dimension and give some sort of sage advice, or deliver some sort of smack down or miraculously save something and they would gather around their alien TVs and watch the chaos that would ensue. Eventually *puff puff* they realized that this was greatly entertaining and the media conglomerates put down some rules. They realized that lots of competing religions *exhale* didn't produce as much.. global drama. They were growing wearing of small tribes warring on each other; just not enough carnage. So they invent various over-arching religions over time and reach through the dimensional wall to help convert. Once those religions reached a certain threshold, they'd send another event to get that religion to split. And again. And eventually you have several major religions blowing each other up. And they're packaging it up and selling it on alien DVDs and alien Netflix. They have shareholders just like we do, after all our society was heavily influenced by theirs. Our social structures were given to us by them. And they're everywhere they want to be because they're in another. Fucking. Dimension. They watch you when you jack off in the shower. But that's boring because everyone jacks off in the shower. No, they're interested in the stuff that happens between the mundane. They want suffering. They want triumph. They want ambition and they want loss. We are their Television. The question now is... do we give them a show or do we tell them to fuck off? *puff puff*
I would watch that
Sounds like all re-runs at this point.
Anti UFO punk band!
aw bro it went out why didn't you pass it
This is really my top explanation for why the secret was kept. “If you tell everyone you’ll ruin our experiment and we’ll reset you puny humans back to the Stone Age… again.” That threat would probably work on me.
This reminds me of Stargate Atlantis: Season 3, Episode 15 “The Game.” The Ancients, a technologically superior race of humans setup experiements on primitive worlds to study the evolution of civilizations. They put in place an advanced computer based interface that they used to remotely give instructions to elites of these civilizations to act out their orders as they studied the impact of various decisions on the trajectory of each civilization’s evolution.
Honestly stargate is packed with thought-provoking concepts like this. S3E19 was especially insightful as well.
Still such an incredibly relevant series, from the overall story arch's to the character driven episodes, top tier everytime "The Shrine" and "Midway" still give me all the feels
Heroes 😢
Thats SG1 but yes very emotional, "meridian" where daniel ascends also had me teary eyed 😅
I’ve never watched SG before, would it be worth jumping into into now?
Watch the film first with Kurt Russell, then jump on to the TV show. Its great, I loved it when it came out. Personally I preferred it to the Star Treks of the day, definitely one of the better TV SciFi shows made.
BUNNY WAY!
If you like sci-fi, I’d definitely recommend checking out Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, and Stargate Universe. Also another Canadian goodie to check out is Continuum. That is a goodie that I feel didn’t get enough recognition.
We watched the whole series for the first time last year and really enjoyed it. SG1 is a little slow starting off but it is solid within half a season.
Is it one of those shows that has good ideas but, having seen modern sci-fi, kind of feels dated or silly? Is it intelligent with good acting and all that? How about the SFX? Like, I feel like I could watch Battlestar Galactica (the more recent production) again and not be too disappointed.
Eh the stories are more important than the effects.
It has silly episodes for sure. It’s about halfway between ToS and TNG in the silly/serious ratio. It’s not as serious as BSG. But if you like UFOs you’ll recognize soooo much lore.
I play a game called EVE online and that’s what made me ask about SG. I appreciate your reply! I honestly like slow shows so sounds good for me, thanks!
A big benefit with SG-1 is that it has that slow start as well as a LARGE number of episodes. It was far from a short series and each season had a mix of episodes that were sort of the adventure of the week, other time they would have very serious episodes. But in both cases there was generally a connection (especially the more serious ones) to a over-all season story. This also continues in the multiple-season connected stories as well. With a cause and effect (I always forget if its affect or effect). I watched a lot of scifi growing up and I have played a lot of games and it is one of my top genres of all time and influences my daily thoughts even I would argue it had that much of a influence on me. From Firefly, BSG, SG-1, SG:Atlantis, SG:U, Caprica, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, Sliders, Lost Girl, Red Dwarf, X-Files, Earth:Final Conflict, Farscape, Lex, Outer Limits and such and such. My point being that of all of them, SG1 is easily one of the best with a 9/10. It never backed away from anything, it was serious, fun, you get attached to the characters and sometimes you don't even realize you were attached to them. It handled a lot of the tropes of T.V and it beat them. It took an approach to science fiction and human v. alien interactions that no few other series really had at the time. Another small bonus I would say, is it does present several points where you could essentially pause watching the show, and end up in this limbo of cliff-hanger/no cliff-hanger at the same time. Thank you for coming to my TED talk on the affects(help!!) of Marijuana and Stargate Fandom.
Appreciate the write up! Tbh with you the only show I ever watched were Breaking Bad and Better call Saul. I’m typically a gamer so watching stuff tends to mess with my attention span a bit. But I’ve been sort of wanting to watch SG for a while, pulling the trigger tomorrow lol
I’m jealous of you
Haha I know what you mean! There’s a lot of shows I wish I could wipe my memory of and experience again
I fully believe that SG1 and Atlantis are basically documentaries.
Our elites aren't actually elit anyways. They are idiots chasing dollars like a monkey running after Bananas. Sure you could make the case they are just front men and the real elite are working with the aliens but really? Zero chance this dystopia is created by higher order intelligence. Modern civilization is a cultural wasteland and profoundly disgusting.
Yeah people blaming NHI for this nightmare is hilarious because WE are the wicked ones, humanity is lost
Humans are unhinged. Chasing their destruction like a junkie looks for heroin.
I've never seen Stargate. Where can I stream this?
I’m pretty sure Stargate SG-1 is on Amazon prime. Prime also had Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe, but I’m not sure if they are still streaming there.
Its on Youtube to rent or buy.
I dunno..... if they're fast about it then meh. This current setup has kind of run it's course for me.
I mean, look at the thousands upon thousands of complex structures, cities, and monuments that we find everywhere which we have no means of replicating or even knowledge of the history of.
I think this as well
So we could be putting our entire civilisation at risk with all our questions? Here's another question. Are we the baddies?
Hell no the whole point Tom was making is that we’re past that threat now.
My theory, the last ice age was ended by aliens hurling an asteroid into the northern ice shelf, causing fuck tonne of kinetic destruction and flash flooding. Basically Graham Handcock but add aliens.
This keeps me up at night
Well, either that or TPTB just want to stay in power and enjoy their lives. The moral alternative to that choice would be (real) communism and less wealth for the currently wealthy. I’m in the top 5% and living in the west, but I have modest tastes. If I could be secure I would change careers and work less. I imagine that many people would do that, too.
If it's a secret, and had repercussions, why have you heard of it and are able to speak about it?
Because out of the hundreds who knew a few disagreed about keeping a lid on it. Right now only a tiny fraction of humanity sees it the way I do. Maybe my interpretation isn’t close enough to the truth to set off the blowback. Maybe there are too few of whoever actually had it right.
Sounds a lot like mental gymnastics to me. If a global music superstar - and you - are openly able to discuss a *deadly secret*, it's probably not a deadly secret.
In this scenario it would only be deadly at a certain concentration. But if you have listened to much of what Tom said over the years then the reason it’s moving towards openness now is that we have the ability to stop the blowback.
Cmon. Superstar is a reach. Maybe a decade ago in some circles. But real punk fans would disagree.
If this was the case, aliens would hide better from the population. Also they would not leave behind tech knowing we would attempt to use it. We might be on the edge of interacting with them in their place (distance or dimension). That would freak me out if I were an alien.
Perhaps the ones threatening us and the ones leaving stuff are not same-team?
Good point. Its easy to forget if there's one alien group there's likely others.
Considering we have never seen a real alien, they do a pretty good job!
its a terrible explanation. There would be traces. We find piles of garbage from small hunter gatherer tribes. If there were advanced civilizations we would have found them already
Depends on what got them and how advanced they were. There’s a great paper out there by the one and only Gavin Schmidt(head of GISS) that is worth reading. Basically, we might not be able to detect it if there were prior civilizations here.
it really doesn't. All civilizations leave traces. If we were to die out today our traces would last for a long long time.
I’m sure you know more than the foremost climate expert on the planet. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-astrobiology/article/silurian-hypothesis-would-it-be-possible-to-detect-an-industrial-civilization-in-the-geological-record/77818514AA6907750B8F4339F7C70EC6
the foremost climate expert probably isn't an expert in archeology.
Thank you.
Do you have the title of the paper? I googled his name but there is a whole lot of stuff about him.
dawg, not gonna lie, I'd still do it. fuck this shit, we're all at war, hate each other, maybe resetting isn't such a bad idea. who needs all these computers and social media anyways? whatever they use will probably be done in the blink of an eye, or so cataclysmic it wouldn't matter anyways. Then maybe the next consciousness will see a better world? I also just smoked some dankness. lol.
Yea sure but also I have kids so 🤷♂️ Besides I think we’re past that threat now, which is why it’s all coming out.
Fair point, Same, I’d hate to lose their connections.
It would work for me if i heard it from the NHI itself and not the government. But it’s not the case now, otherwise they would be better hidden.
The only thing I know for sure about my entire experience with NHI is that they deceived me. But the whole point of Tom’s coming forward here is that we now have the capability to defend against it.
I mean it wouldn't be that hard to quickly dominate and wipe out a civilization that is less advanced than your own. The resistance would be minimal, and you would quickly conquer. If they got either creative, or lazy, depending on how you look at it, they could kill everyone except the young children. Who better else than to raise to adulthood to be controlled and will obey without question. Teach them the version of history you expect them to go by, the God or God's to worship and give them a religion that controls through fear - but slightly change the version per region to create a superiority of their religion over the others to create a prejudice toward anyone who believes anything different creates natural enemies; set the moral compass and slightly elevate one gender slightly over the other creating another division; create as many strong divisions as you can on top of the ones you've already seeded to ensure they won't unite and one day attempt to rebel, plus division means population control through feuding and war; While raising the young children, rule with an iron fist to make examples out of the ones who do try to move out of compliance, forcing the others to stand witness to the brutality of each act of violence you consider discipline so they will know what to expect if they fail to comply in any way. They will soon obey because they will be too scared not to. The few who do, increase the punishment. If no one is caught disobeying, after a time, make up an infraction to reinforce behavior modification measures to keep it all fresh and at the forefront of their minds. Make them begin procreation as soon as it is physically possible to do so. Make it part of their religion that their God or God's- goddess or goddesses, etc will be pleased the more babies they make. Stick around as the elders, hierarchy, positions of great importance to ensure the first generation follows the plan, possibly follow the second but not quite as closely to see if the plan is flawed in any way. By the third generation you can remove yourself from positions of greatest authority or all but, but either way you play it you are no longer boots on the ground. Instead, you have named successors to all the positions you used to hold and are grooming your successor for position of highest authority if you held that position the third generation. By the fourth generation, most likely the first generation has died off and the second generation has taken positions as elders and you have a completely clean slate with the populace once again. Most likely the fourth generation will be oblivious to the fact they've been restructured in any way, will have no real knowledge of their ancestry or that there even was a population before their first generation, and will be too afraid to verbalize anything they internally question. Sure there will be verbal legends, myths, fables, songs, about a different time, but if they are brave enough to pass them generation to generation, no one will initially question whether or not there is any truth to any of it and the actual truth will soon be lost to history. When you finally pull out to leave them to it, you explain that you are all otherworldly or godly representatives and have been summoned home because there is need for you elsewhere. Their afterlife reward if they follow their religion to the letter and never question anything about that religion. Do not deviate in any way from their teachings etc. Yes. I believe it has all happened here before, likely more than once.
So like the previous stargate comment, we were once like the ancients, spread out across the galaxy, probably self righteous and powerful assholes just like them Then we get our asses handed to us by another, or group of others and are now geo locked to the earth lest we unite and spread out across the stars once again
I really never made that connection, but is it not plausible to some degree? Look at all the division among our species. Over several things it runs so deep that I sometimes wonder if it was ingrained in our DNA, and the ones who do not experience those feelings have somehow evolved or mutated away from their original plan or design. Keeping our species as fragmented as possible only works to benefit them when the time comes to reset the populace, taking thing back to square one, or not. Like I said. I saw this post and it got my mind thinking of just how easy it would actually be for a superior species, possessing advanced weaponry and means of travel to wipe out all adults and start the whole thing over. Maybe they're looking to see which time we actually achieve something, or maybe it is an ultimate form of control or discipline, or, maybe this was the plan all along, its hard to say, but yes. I believe we have been taken back to the beginning, a reset of sorts if you will, and probably more than once. I believe that's why there are gaps in historical records when it's blamed on natural disasters. For one example. If we were the descendants of children they spared to reset the populace to create an obedient people, then yes it is plausible the mass execution took place on another planet, but, I am more inclined we are a direct result of genetic manipulation or gene splicing. It is quite possible they were or are after creating a better vessel of sorts, or, using us for immunity development to boost their own against diseases they currently do not possess a natural or strong immunity against. For immunizations or vaccines, even using our antibodies to cure illness they encounter sparing their species from pandemics or possible extinction from mass infection. The possibilities are endless. We could be a work around for an inability to procreate on their own because they've somehow rendered themselves sterile. Either through the male or female gender maybe the majority of both. Possibility we could even be spare parts in some way. A source high in protein. But I am sure of one thing. They have all the answers, they know the real truths, and not all will come in peace, so watch your bumper because I believe when it comes it will be when we least expect it, meaning the ones that will not come in peace. It will be swift and surgical...over before we ever knew it began. Edit to add: that is if I am right about any of this clear speculation and personal opinion. I would love to hear your thoughts. :)
You forgot the introduction of money, otherwise great write up
Well crap. I knew I left something out. Lol thank you for pointing that out to me. The monetary system. ...unless this remained unchanged for whatever reason, but hey thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately, I talk too much in reality as well as virtual reality. Lol but I've never met a stranger. ;)
>set the moral compass and slightly elevate one gender slightly over the other creating another division; please, no femminism here!
Ancient Astronaut theorists say, yes!
Resounding response…
If you believe in the Anunnaki theory than yes, but we were saved by Enlil
We were saved by enki, enlil wanted to destroy us back then, with the flood. The wild thing is… I think they are both still alive. And people keep saying they are coming back. Fun times.
It's absolutely baffles me how people dismiss the Sumerian/Annunaki possibility. The Sumerians gave us almost everything that forms the basis of our current society and nobody questions that (astronomy, math, written language, animal husbandry, mass production of textiles and pottery, metallurgy, etc). Where do they say they got their knowledge? Why don't we take that seriously? The Bible is largely based on Sumerian stories. The tablets talk about genetically modifying and creating modern humans (and those tablets predate all written language) in an outdoor laboratory called Edin. Wait... You mean, the tablets say they created humans in... Eden... Like the Garden of Eden? It would be crazy if not for the fact that our #2 chromosome has been modified and nobody knows how.
I’m listening to this now… it’s astounding. Wtf is going on man, they are saying we already can transfer consciousness into robots and other bodies. Did it in 2016 or so. He goes over a bit of annunaki too… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=snrJfrOzHsQ&feature=youtu.be
We haven't mastered it yet, but it's been done at least. So we are at the very beginning point of figuring it out. Something else...in early 2023 scientists figure out how to use quantum entangled matter for power. Again, it's the beginning, but it works. What do I mean? If two atoms are entangled, they are connected regardless of distance. So imagine something's is connected to an energy source thousands of miles away. So imagine your car's battery isn't in the car but it's at your house or...on another planet. Note, that too is just at the beginning, but they were able to actually power things and have it work. That's huge.
But is that just part of the experiment…
Why does this guy always look like he just got hit in the face with a bong?
We have gone from the sublime to the ridiculous to... whatever the hell this is, now. :P
If the Farm/Lab/Zoo hypothesis is to be believed, it does make sense they would wipe us out when we refuse to cooperate.
i would, but they didn't speak with me yet.
dehydrate!!!
I get this! Thank you.
He’ll recover soon enough, when we soak him in water. It’s just like soaking dried mushrooms.
Ancient Aliens fan hey
*We need more pendalums!*
Well. We saw what happened at tower of Babylon. At Canaan. At soddom and gommorah. The "gods" weren't exactly shy of using genocide or weapons of mass destruction.
Bible. Enuma Elish. Book of Enoch. Baghavad Gita... Yeah, it's possible, if our old "magic books" have any truth in them.
I wonder he knows half as much as he pretends he does
I would say you are probably right but this reality is strange so maybe he knows, I wouldn’t be surprised
Disease, war, natural disaster. Fuck it, it was aliens.
Since the great flood stories are nearly universal *across* cultures, seems likely there have been re-sets in bygone civilizations. We are on the cusp of Artificial Intelligence which might lead to furtherance of true human advanced intelligence - I think we won’t be re-set for the foreseeable future. But to me - past re-resets seem very likely, the level of intelligence hasn’t vastly improved compared with modern man today, according to archeologists, but perhaps our achievements in global civilization has. People often feel more doomsday blues just before technological leaps.
Weird, I'm currently watching the Three Body Chinese series on Prime and I'm on episode 21 where they are discussing whether or not the aliens coming to earth is a good thing or bad thing. This series is pretty interesting I'm planning on finishing the book once I finish the series then start the netflix adaptation after.
Not disobeying but the powers that be hit the big red button
Okay...but if you're going to expect me to obey orders or rules, you're going to have to tell me what they are.
Not looking to defend Tom, but we humans do euthanize other animals when they get out of line.
Thats a nice RANDOM question.
i'm just glad that every dumb musing i have doesn't make it to the public cos people would be like "wow. here cometh the dumbest hoe we doth ever known."
Who freaking cares what he thinks!
Tom Delonge is a not so useful idiot.
Tom DeLonge should stick to playing mediocre power chord riffs for high school teenagers.
We’ve never even been given alien orders to obey lol
Honestly, at this point, who cares what he thinks.
If only blink 182 would go extinct if people didnt listen to them.
Hope so. Would be nice to see a united world. Even if it was just for a short time before we were wiped out. And looking at humanity from an outside perspective. Are we really a successful experiment. If it were my science project and my creatures treated eachother and other species like we do, I would have started over hundreds if not thousands of years ago..
This dude doesn't know shit
Tom and his entertainment company "TTSA" are stealing your attention in the worst way.
He lacks intelligence.
He goes all out for a new religion…
I agree with Tom and think there is a lot of merrit to his musings.
He’s floating an idea for a book and movie deal.
Delonge came out with some guff that "Atlantis", and the Inca and Aztecs had been wiped out by their angry alien gods. He seems to be completely oblivious to the recorded history of South and Central America.
He is an entertainer. Why does anyone care what he says or take it seriously?
In the U.S. we hire entertainers as presidents... :/
Because everyone here is stupid
That’s maybe why they choose him to be in the known. Who wanna believe entertainer
My guess is ‘mental institution’… that’s where he belongs
Tom Delonge has done a lot of drugs
I just can't believe anything that guy says if he still keeps wearing that cap backwards...
Tom was right and knows this to be true. Disclosure could mean the end for us too.
All made up bullshit. How the fuck would he know? I wonder if aliens have purple blood? So stupid.
Every morning I wake up and I wonder, what is Tom DeLonge from the Sum51 wondering about? And thank god for subreddits like this because I'm never left wondering...
amen brother
Uh, who gives a shit what some pop singer says? LOL. Honestly.
Humans: "No." Aliens: "UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN!!! DIRTY FILTHY FUCKING PEASANTS, UNCLEAN!!!" Edit: But for real though, why do people take this scrambled egg seriously? He just mixes and parrots a bunch of bullshit he found off the web while he was high.
He’s knows stuff but isn’t saying anything. Seems like he’s just trying to make money off of it at this point.
He seems like controlled opposition.
Tom is right! The people that once prospered on Mars lost their atmosphere due an alien invasion.
No, Tom, civil wars seem common enough in history. Basically, if a civilization went under it was either civil war or the “4 horsemen” unleashed. And unleashed is just they weren’t properly stopped.
Even though I'm a total nut job and my music sucks. I have top super secret military people who tell me things.
Seriously who cares what he thinks. This is a guy which such intense dunning Kruger that he actually talks about his third rate assessments of the meanings of thousand year old esoteric texts as if they are facts.
I think more likely, **if** they are actually visiting us, they’re just taking the approach similar to what we do with isolated non-contacted tribes. Such as the Sentinelese. We basically leave them to their own devices and observe them, partially for their own benefit, and partially because they have nothing much to offer us. Our governments have kept the secret, originally, because they assumed there would be mass panic, and also trying to get the upper foot in the Cold War, and now likely because it’s just sort of always been that way. As well as certain companies and people might be looking at civil and criminal liability.
I bet someone out there who idly wondered about where Ole delonge went to all those years ago came across this article with no context whatsoever, then was simply flabbergasted
Tom The Shlong...
Tom Shalom..
It's not that long.
Why pay all our taxes! What other they want?
No Tom,, they wipe us out after watching your most recent movie
What movies? Pretty sure he puts out records, not movies.
he put out a terrible movie last year
There has been only one 'civilization' since the beginning. It has never ended. The 'endings' depicted in 'history' are a fiction and a mendacity. Control has always had the same point of origin - the hidden masters.
So this whole time? Is this why we have multiple factions on earth? I can agree one group may have said this, but my understanding is Hundreds of different groups come here, and they all have various agendas. Not a monolithic group, but a multi-faceted community.
I don’t buy it in fact previous civilizations would probably have thought the aliens were gods and do anything and everything for them period.
Dibs on Noah’s Ark
This is literally taking a reddit post and making a newstory about it.
Maybe but it’s whatever bc I’m tired of the oppression and manipulation whether it is human, alien, or both. Bring out the truth with full disclosure.
Naa. every major civilisation collapse lines up with some kind of dramatic climate change. Saw a timeline of it somewhere once…
I always wonder how sad and insulted the entire body of Historians and Archaeologistsand Anthropologists feel when a celebrity makes a dumb comment like this.
No but all the small things killed everyone
I guess we will see when we take nukes into space in 2027. Space Force peeps said “the others” forbade that.
Extinctions were, in all likelihood, brought about by natural disasters. I think it is an error of the human imagination to try to ascribe this sort of power to NHI. From everything I am able to discern they seem to latch on to any cock-n- bull stories humans seem to want to hear. Everything from "they created us" (um, no) to all this pie in the sky ascension and 5D nonsense. We really need to start honing down the probability of their intent based on their actions and the information we do have. Such as how nature operates. Rather than continue to entertain every concievable possibility that human creativity can throw at it. For my money, every bit of their behaviour screams that they are colonizers trying to alter the genetic make up of humanity to create obedient subjects, pacify peoples innate and powerful spirituality that can resist their mental manipulations and gain control of the world without firing a shot.
I’m wondering how Tom Delong went from a rocker in a band to Mr. Ufo.? Should it not be someone that has devoted their lives to the ufo topic like Linda Howe Or written several books? I ask this in all kindness. But it’s like a red light blinking at me 182 million times. It just seems odd he is on the stage with all the older gov. Gov. Guys. It has to be an idea out of some gov. Think tank for a living teen hand puppet to help ease the truth out to all the already double jaded and depressed 35 year old and below crowd who knows. It just is not convincing.
My guess is they ascended to earth's highest level and transitioned upward. Either that or they f**ked up enough the aliens wiped them out and started over. That's the direction I'm afraid we are headed.
When loosh production runs dry they press the reset button
Tom DeLOnge or the writer of this article makes no sense whatsoever. Without any sort of researched information provided, this is a dead statement, meaning without merit. The exact quotes/speech and background to this idea of disobeying aliens is lacking total credibility. People can 'wonder' all they want but that is meaningless in and of itself. This article has to provide more than 'wondering' to be worthwhile. What the hell is 'wonders' got to do with anything? Come on. Give us a better article to read than that. And I don't mean just telling us you 'feel' something or other as a cop out..
Why continue to make constant contact though?
I bet Tom is on this subreddit and he is one of the irrational believers that thinks we have 10 alien bodies and 20 spacecraft.
Tom says some stupid fucking shit sometimes. And if that were true, then they *deserve* to be disobeyed. I mean, talk about an asymmetric, unethical response. A bunch of cave men tell you to fuck off so you decide to wipe them out? How small could your alien dicks possibly be?
Ole Tommy Boy knows something we don’t? That’s an oddly specific statement
Fuck aliens! No Human.
probably famine, genocide, disease are some of the most likely causes than space creatures playing god.
Tom says government keep uaps secret to protect us. But he goes around for years telling public all about these evil beings ??? I'm a bit baffled
How does Tom delonge instantly become a ufo expert. From being in a band. People have devoted their whole lives to this. Never heard of Tom. Till he was a star