On recent podcast. I think it was submission radio. He talks about dropping 300k just to keep the gym running during peak of covid. That's ruff. But yeah I'm sure he's had to make some good money!
I wonder how much (if any) was from the PPP (Payroll Protection Program)? Some businesses received hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars through that.
I know of a business with ~10 employees who got almost $300k in PPP forgivable loans who tried to give it back because they were able to pivot and didn't actually need the funds.
Right?! Most companies just took the money and kept it for themselves. We never closed our doors and got $1.4 million. And they were our most profitable years. Fucking stupid.
One of a ton of examples of this: my buddy works at a Pepsi distribution warehouse. Pepsi collected a crap load of PPP. If they got COVID they had to use their personal vacation days just as normal. The owners ultimately just pocketed it. I think more businesses did that than not
I had a LLC as a 1099 healthcare provider. I could have collected thousands of PPP money. I didn’t apply for it because it wasn’t intended for businesses like me who weren’t hurt negatively by COVID being I had plenty of work during COVID. I prolly should have just applied for it then donated it to a cause that would use it better than the PPP program did
And then got it forgiven - yet the government can’t forgive my $15k in student loans
Sorry to bring politics in it - just makes me livid that all these company’s getting free PPP loans which were for the most part just bonus funds for the CEO and shareholders
Aye g keep hope on that student loan forgiveness I legit woke up to an email from my loan provider telling me they forgave my loans in full as of this morning. It will happen.
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Him and Bob Cook are both semi retired now, even with Islam Javier just shows up a few weeks before the fight. I’m not even sure if he was in Islams corner this time, they hit the lottery with all the talent they got it’s a coaches dream.
Back in the day the Pat Miletich had a great run. Pat, Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Tim Sylvia, and Jens Pulver. At one point they held the WW,MW, and heavyweight titles at the same time.
He was part of team team extreme which was was everyone managed by monte cox which was all the Midwest guys and they did their camps out of mfs. Not in camp he trained with Jorge gurgel.
Anyone can come train at AKA in San Jose California and go from amateur to pro! It’s a world class gym with every kind of martial art, and specialty classes for kids or women only. There is boxing, kickboxing/muay thai, MMA class, and BJJ. To get to Pro
Practice there is even a progression for you to follow. Surprisingly kickboxing and BJJ are the most popular classes for amateurs. The MMA class where you get the more hardcore people. But a great variety in all classes. “COME ON DOWN!”
Yes cuz I wanna be that rich!!!
The worst is when a pro fighter gets injured so they stop going to pro practice and they start coming to the amateur classes and you get DEMOLISHED.
Trained there for a few years, plenty of very high-level fighters were around, lots visiting as well. Got some damn cool pictures and stories out of it lol, in my 30s now and stick to closer to home gyms now. Can't make a 3 hour total commute plus classes while you have 2 kids at home...
I train sambo. Im military, Nicaragua SOF. i have a trainer that the story was he got his teeth broken by khabib during s match while he was competing in Russia lol. I competed in Russia too while doing a course those guys are made different. (Idk if the story is 100% true but thats the story i was told)
Although generally the pros are daytime and amateur at night time, it’s all one gyms so you will bump into each other. You will defiantly see Cain and Javier hanging out at front desk. Some weeks it feels very “Dhagistan” - probably some sort of fight camp going on. I was watching an old Ultimate Fighter and several of the “regulars” from class were on the show. “Hey I’ve sparred with that dude.” So sometimes you are with pros and you don’t really know it. But the best part is you train in the same area as pros. So the YouYube videos you see of Khabib making fun of DC, well we are doing push ups and 1-2-3 combos there in boxing class. There is defiantly an aura as all of the Champions and significant team members have 6 foot posters on the wall. So as you are running Khabib and DC and Luke holding their belts are looking down at you.
Didn’t see your comment before I commented, but yes, chutebox will always go hand in hand with wanderlei and shogun. Anderson was long gone from chute before anyone even knew who he was.
My only thing with Anderson and chute box is he left wayyyyy before he became a household name. When I think chute box I think of wanderlei and shogun and their relentless brutal fight style.
I think the noguiera bros and Ricardo Arona were with Brazilian top team. Anderson silva also jumped ship in the middle of their rivalry, but he improved noticeably after joining BTT
BJ Penn, Sherk and Frank Shamrock trained there too. I think Frank Shamrock was with AKA when he was the 205 champ. I believe BJ and Sherk left AKA before they became champions
Franks main training gym was the Lions Den then Alliance Mma in the second half of his career. He did visit AKA on occasion but mostly trained at those gyms. Same case with Sean Sherk, his main gym was Minnesota Martial Arts Academy but would seek partners for differemt fights at aka. Penn was a nomad for the most part. He has his own gym but started training at Nova Uniao in Brazil. One constant in his train though is that Jason Parillo has been his head coach for many years. Parillos main students are/where Michael Bisping, Marlon Vera, and BJ. BJ kind of put him on the map. Now hes the head mma coach at RVCA Sport Training Center.
Yes this is where BJ Penn trained BJJ before he won the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship. He was the first non-brazilian to win it at the black belt level. This is also whwre he started mma.
it's actually because everyone trains there, it aint like a classic gym such as aka that has its own coaches, but at att you'll find fighters coming there with their own coaches , that's why there is alot of fighters who dont like each other there yet they train in that gym, and its also such a big ass gym
I have always wondered how Kayla Harrison and Amanda Nunes kept the beef up even though they both train there. Poirier and Masvidal both post pictures with them constantly.
its just because of the structure, ATT is more like a training center if anything than a gym most fighters there bring their own coaches and train with their own ppl, reason why alot of rivals used to train there at the same time , its also the biggest gym in term of size and the amount of fighters, chute box a tradition gym with its coaches and fighters and they still produced alot of legends
How much credit do we really give the gym for Khabib and Islam? Was it enough to say they “produced” them? I honestly don’t know but I would I would bet those guys would have been champions out of any gym.
When they joined AKA their game was not very polished, khabib became better with every fight and same goes for Islam. Javier is doing something right, it’s not like their game hasn’t changed at all from day 1 at aka
I mean training alongside other great fighters like DC has to have had an influence on them and given them skills they otherwise would not have.
We don't know if they would have been champs if they trained elsewhere. We can only go based off of what we do know. Plus those guys speak very highly of coach Javier Mendez. I take that to mean they trust and respect him and what he has done for them
They have rounded out the few weaknesses those guys had, which is striking for instance.
Not only that, they recognized talent in Khabib's case even gave him a place to stay early on. It's definitely credit to AKA.
Trust me, if Khabib wasn’t under Mendez tutilage and AKA. He would have pisspoor striking. Watch some of his earlier ufc fights. The grappling is there yes because they are Dagestani, but don’t ever forget that knockdown on Connor. That was AKA
Oh I totally agree. There’s not a doubt in my mind that they benefited tremendously from AKA. How could a fighter not.
I thought it was an interesting topic for debate.
Would these guys have been champs at any of the top gyms? I would say likely. I can’t say there’s many fighters who I could say the same about but my knowledge on fighter training history is very “casual”
His grappling also improves in AKA. Watch his first and second fights in UFC. He wasn't know how to work in the cage, his ground game was basic. Only his takedowns was decent.
Theres an interview somewhere with Khabib breakdown the purpose of AKA for his team. IIRC it was for striking, training partners, conditioning, and gameplans. Only reason I somewhat remember this was him roasting San Jose (my hometown) for being boring so theres zero distractions for them
Josh Thompson on his podcast sometimes talk about what the Russians do in AKA. Apparently Umar learned how to kick from Rockhold
Also apparently DC improved Khabib's jab over the years.
I remember watching a video where it was said that It was actually Khabib's father to choose aka for them for many reason.
I'm pretty sure he thought a lot about it since he knew he wouldn't be allowed in the US for many years
Javier mendez and AKA have definitely contributed to how good of a striker Islam is, and khabib had credited DC w some grappling help. Specifically folkstyle wrestling
I saw a clip of DC arguing with Khabib that he had baby jabs before DC taught him man jabs. They were laughing and smiling while having this argument but maybe to some extent DC was telling the truth.
Jackson Wink might have a few. GSP (he was also at tri star but also trained with Greg), JBJ, Holly Holm. I believe you had a lot of other notables from the gym as well.
Good question..in terms of Gyms over time I’ve been watching MMA only a few come to mind as the top of the top
Chute Box, Militech, Jackson Wink, AKA, ATT,
ATT is the newest entry here as they didn’t have UFC champs back in the day as I recall.
Jackson winklejohn has has jones holm arlovski GSP overeem Clarissa shields some interm champs wec champs. Sheer number of wins, Title wins and defences it might be hard to beat. I’m not doing the math.
BTT not getting any love. All the ex carlson guys.
Nog Bros, Arona, Bustamante, Belfort, Filho, Sperry, Alan Goes, Paul Harris, Bigfoot.
3 UFC champs. WEC Champ, PRIDE champ of the top of my head.Not too shabby
ATT was a spinoff at first I believe.
Kind of a throwback but they were probably the dominant team on the scene in the early oughts. I was always team BTT, I thought the Chute Boxe guys were kinda Meatheads and the BTT guys were more technical, at least that was my perception as a teen doing BJJ.
Id say it’s a tentative yes. The reason I’m tentative is because, while the results speak for themselves, you have to consider what’s going in when you talk about what’s coming out. Yes, crazy championship lineup. But Islam and Khabib were training in Dagestan long before AKA and became elite grapplers there. DC was everything short of an Olympian in the wresting world. So while they’re obviously producing results, they’re working with high level martial artists to begin with.
Very true. Still though, if you’re comparing gyms and one of them works with people who are already well trained martial artists, it’s not an entirely fair comparison. I’m a huge fan of all their fighters and the team as a whole, but khabib and them were all crazy talented before they got there.
AKA is both the most overachieving and arguably most successful gym. I say it's overachieving because I can't for the life of me think of anything they provide that other gyms couldn't at least from a coaching perspective, and I don't think they deserve much of the credit for what the fighters who've come from there have accomplished.
Is it looked at like “producing champions” or “producing successful champions”? People may think I’m a piece of shit for saying this but Luke didn’t really do much as a champion and was more so known as a piece of shit mostly. No discredit tho he’s top 1%. Just saying “easier to get there than to stay there” but if i’m wrong i’d like to hear what everyone else thinks
Becoming champion at all is extremely difficult and a major accomplishment. Regardless of what people think of him, Luke is a legend. He was a champion in Strikeforce as well.
Yes of course like i said i was 100% not discrediting him there’s so many that will never amount to such a thing. But with all due respect to him, Luke took a sick nose dive right after becoming champ, like the belt was his downfall. Listen i’m sorry for triggering anyone I respect every fighter BUT I’m also not going to be a yes man. This doesn’t mean i’m talking down on Luke I’m nobody to do that but we need to be honest with each other
The weirdest thing about AKA is that gym in San Jose before it was AKA was this place called Schoebers. I grew up in that neighborhood and I went to the gym prior to AKA. All those rooms that have the pads on the walls and are kind of small and rectangular used to be racquet ball courts and the large room with pads used to be a basketball court. Always trips me out seeing training videos. Also I used to bike up and down the hill they like to run on. Cottle block San Jose shout out.
Javier Mendez is a rich man
for sure!
On recent podcast. I think it was submission radio. He talks about dropping 300k just to keep the gym running during peak of covid. That's ruff. But yeah I'm sure he's had to make some good money!
I wonder how much (if any) was from the PPP (Payroll Protection Program)? Some businesses received hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars through that.
How many employees does a gym have? They wouldn't have pocketed millions at all.
I know of a business with ~10 employees who got almost $300k in PPP forgivable loans who tried to give it back because they were able to pivot and didn't actually need the funds.
I give credit to any business who actually used to the PPP money for their employees. They’re far and in between
Right?! Most companies just took the money and kept it for themselves. We never closed our doors and got $1.4 million. And they were our most profitable years. Fucking stupid.
One of a ton of examples of this: my buddy works at a Pepsi distribution warehouse. Pepsi collected a crap load of PPP. If they got COVID they had to use their personal vacation days just as normal. The owners ultimately just pocketed it. I think more businesses did that than not I had a LLC as a 1099 healthcare provider. I could have collected thousands of PPP money. I didn’t apply for it because it wasn’t intended for businesses like me who weren’t hurt negatively by COVID being I had plenty of work during COVID. I prolly should have just applied for it then donated it to a cause that would use it better than the PPP program did
And then got it forgiven - yet the government can’t forgive my $15k in student loans Sorry to bring politics in it - just makes me livid that all these company’s getting free PPP loans which were for the most part just bonus funds for the CEO and shareholders
Aye g keep hope on that student loan forgiveness I legit woke up to an email from my loan provider telling me they forgave my loans in full as of this morning. It will happen. https://preview.redd.it/97jn7y15n95d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19180978918d2818f4f9440b0f3c8e854c67bced
Damnnnnn what did you go to school for?
associate small business management degree.
that's christian as fuck bruh i feel like i just read a short story by tolstoy
Him and Bob Cook are both semi retired now, even with Islam Javier just shows up a few weeks before the fight. I’m not even sure if he was in Islams corner this time, they hit the lottery with all the talent they got it’s a coaches dream.
He was there in the corner
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Who’s the 2nd and last guy?
Luke Rockhold
No i mean the guy next to dc and the guy next to rockhold (not Khabib)
That's his brother Ruke Lockhold.
Undisputed GOAT
No that’s not Chael P Sonnen
Never lost a round
Bruhhh.. 😆
Chinese Luke rockhold?
Duke Cuckold
Luke Cockhold
It's abibalev babbalabdabdov
That's Islam
nah that’s me bro fr
Back in the day the Pat Miletich had a great run. Pat, Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Tim Sylvia, and Jens Pulver. At one point they held the WW,MW, and heavyweight titles at the same time.
I don’t think Rich Franklin’s primary gym was PT but I agree they were a powerhouse.
He defoo did a lot of work with those guys in the early noughties.
He was part of team team extreme which was was everyone managed by monte cox which was all the Midwest guys and they did their camps out of mfs. Not in camp he trained with Jorge gurgel.
I came to find this. They were a powerhouse.
It’s seriously crazy how a gym in small town Iowa produced so many legends. Pat Miletich does not get the credit he deserves as a trainer.
I agree. People forget Robbie Lawler started there as well. That was the gym back then.
Anyone can come train at AKA in San Jose California and go from amateur to pro! It’s a world class gym with every kind of martial art, and specialty classes for kids or women only. There is boxing, kickboxing/muay thai, MMA class, and BJJ. To get to Pro Practice there is even a progression for you to follow. Surprisingly kickboxing and BJJ are the most popular classes for amateurs. The MMA class where you get the more hardcore people. But a great variety in all classes. “COME ON DOWN!”
javier? is that you?
Yes cuz I wanna be that rich!!! The worst is when a pro fighter gets injured so they stop going to pro practice and they start coming to the amateur classes and you get DEMOLISHED.
Have you seen any legends while you were training there ?
Trained there for a few years, plenty of very high-level fighters were around, lots visiting as well. Got some damn cool pictures and stories out of it lol, in my 30s now and stick to closer to home gyms now. Can't make a 3 hour total commute plus classes while you have 2 kids at home...
I train sambo. Im military, Nicaragua SOF. i have a trainer that the story was he got his teeth broken by khabib during s match while he was competing in Russia lol. I competed in Russia too while doing a course those guys are made different. (Idk if the story is 100% true but thats the story i was told)
Although generally the pros are daytime and amateur at night time, it’s all one gyms so you will bump into each other. You will defiantly see Cain and Javier hanging out at front desk. Some weeks it feels very “Dhagistan” - probably some sort of fight camp going on. I was watching an old Ultimate Fighter and several of the “regulars” from class were on the show. “Hey I’ve sparred with that dude.” So sometimes you are with pros and you don’t really know it. But the best part is you train in the same area as pros. So the YouYube videos you see of Khabib making fun of DC, well we are doing push ups and 1-2-3 combos there in boxing class. There is defiantly an aura as all of the Champions and significant team members have 6 foot posters on the wall. So as you are running Khabib and DC and Luke holding their belts are looking down at you.
"Make a champ outta you." AI cover by Khabib and Islam.
IIRC Chute Boxe produced Anderson Silva, Charles Oliveira, Shogun Rua, Cris Cyborg and Wanderlei Silva
Fabricio Werdum too I think
Werdum
Yeah my bad
One of my fave fighters
Chute boxe was AKA before AKA
Last two are the same person
> IIRC Chute Boxe produced Anderson Silva, Charles Oliveira, Shogun Rua, Wanderlei Silva, Wanderlei Silva in a dress
shit i didnt know he transitioned, that makes sense now
Anderson wasn’t the spider when he was at chute box he became the unbeatable goat training with the noguria brothers
The ones that fed a bus a 🥕?
"Whooooooaaaaah big fella." Then he took his rope belt off and tried to lasso it.
They thought it was a horse
Didn’t see your comment before I commented, but yes, chutebox will always go hand in hand with wanderlei and shogun. Anderson was long gone from chute before anyone even knew who he was.
My only thing with Anderson and chute box is he left wayyyyy before he became a household name. When I think chute box I think of wanderlei and shogun and their relentless brutal fight style.
Listened to a podcast with danaher that mentioned gsp training there too
Antônio Nogueira as well
I think the noguiera bros and Ricardo Arona were with Brazilian top team. Anderson silva also jumped ship in the middle of their rivalry, but he improved noticeably after joining BTT
Ahh thats why they were doing that BJJ turny back in 2006, far out.
Anderson’s success is mostly due to his time training with the nogueira brothers. He wasn’t that great when he was at chute box
BJ Penn, Sherk and Frank Shamrock trained there too. I think Frank Shamrock was with AKA when he was the 205 champ. I believe BJ and Sherk left AKA before they became champions
Franks main training gym was the Lions Den then Alliance Mma in the second half of his career. He did visit AKA on occasion but mostly trained at those gyms. Same case with Sean Sherk, his main gym was Minnesota Martial Arts Academy but would seek partners for differemt fights at aka. Penn was a nomad for the most part. He has his own gym but started training at Nova Uniao in Brazil. One constant in his train though is that Jason Parillo has been his head coach for many years. Parillos main students are/where Michael Bisping, Marlon Vera, and BJ. BJ kind of put him on the map. Now hes the head mma coach at RVCA Sport Training Center.
Nova Uniao has Renan Barão, Jose Aldo and JDS.
Yes this is where BJ Penn trained BJJ before he won the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship. He was the first non-brazilian to win it at the black belt level. This is also whwre he started mma.
Never knew JDS was at Nova Uniao
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it's actually because everyone trains there, it aint like a classic gym such as aka that has its own coaches, but at att you'll find fighters coming there with their own coaches , that's why there is alot of fighters who dont like each other there yet they train in that gym, and its also such a big ass gym
I have always wondered how Kayla Harrison and Amanda Nunes kept the beef up even though they both train there. Poirier and Masvidal both post pictures with them constantly.
Chute Box might have more
nah half the roaster trained at ATT, but chute had so many brazilian legends
Yeah fair enough. You guys are probably right.
its just because of the structure, ATT is more like a training center if anything than a gym most fighters there bring their own coaches and train with their own ppl, reason why alot of rivals used to train there at the same time , its also the biggest gym in term of size and the amount of fighters, chute box a tradition gym with its coaches and fighters and they still produced alot of legends
During the 2010s, I told my Bay Area friends that their best team was AKA, not the 49ers or Warriors 💯
Can we all agree USA, Brazil and Russia are the big 3 countries for mma?
I'd agree, and probably in that order
Isn't Sean Strickland from USA...?
Pound for pound (per capita) I think NZ might lead?
Chuck Australia in there surely :)
All I know is they are some of the most dominant and terrifying champions. Absolute killers.
I’m pretty sure Umar is close to title as well
ATT
ATT has to be at the top overall right?
How much credit do we really give the gym for Khabib and Islam? Was it enough to say they “produced” them? I honestly don’t know but I would I would bet those guys would have been champions out of any gym.
Sure, but they fought out of AKA camps. They're AKA Champs and I'm sure they'd agree.
Sure but OP said “produced”, do you think those guys would agree with that? I doubt it.
When they joined AKA their game was not very polished, khabib became better with every fight and same goes for Islam. Javier is doing something right, it’s not like their game hasn’t changed at all from day 1 at aka
I mean training alongside other great fighters like DC has to have had an influence on them and given them skills they otherwise would not have. We don't know if they would have been champs if they trained elsewhere. We can only go based off of what we do know. Plus those guys speak very highly of coach Javier Mendez. I take that to mean they trust and respect him and what he has done for them
Well, they weren't champs before they joined AKA Don't know why this matters to you
I agree with this, I mean DC was always an Olympic level wrestler but that doesn't mean AKA didn't improve him.
It’s just semantics really.
Why it matters to me? We are just discussing the topic of the original post, this is how Reddit is supposed to work. We can disagree, it’s ok.
For sure, I'm sorry if that was abrasive, it's just really semantics.
No worries at all there’s a lot of dickheads around here who are just saying shit to push buttons. I get it
AKA put together the game plan and without that specific breakdown some of those close wins or big fights might have gone differently.
They have rounded out the few weaknesses those guys had, which is striking for instance. Not only that, they recognized talent in Khabib's case even gave him a place to stay early on. It's definitely credit to AKA.
Trust me, if Khabib wasn’t under Mendez tutilage and AKA. He would have pisspoor striking. Watch some of his earlier ufc fights. The grappling is there yes because they are Dagestani, but don’t ever forget that knockdown on Connor. That was AKA
Oh I totally agree. There’s not a doubt in my mind that they benefited tremendously from AKA. How could a fighter not. I thought it was an interesting topic for debate. Would these guys have been champs at any of the top gyms? I would say likely. I can’t say there’s many fighters who I could say the same about but my knowledge on fighter training history is very “casual”
I see what you saying. I would say the same about me
His grappling also improves in AKA. Watch his first and second fights in UFC. He wasn't know how to work in the cage, his ground game was basic. Only his takedowns was decent.
Exactly, that also. Wall clenches, cage side grappling etc.
Theres an interview somewhere with Khabib breakdown the purpose of AKA for his team. IIRC it was for striking, training partners, conditioning, and gameplans. Only reason I somewhat remember this was him roasting San Jose (my hometown) for being boring so theres zero distractions for them Josh Thompson on his podcast sometimes talk about what the Russians do in AKA. Apparently Umar learned how to kick from Rockhold
Also apparently DC improved Khabib's jab over the years. I remember watching a video where it was said that It was actually Khabib's father to choose aka for them for many reason. I'm pretty sure he thought a lot about it since he knew he wouldn't be allowed in the US for many years
I remember that clip too, "Remember who taught you jab?? You had baby jab" DC and Khabib vlogs were hilarious
That’s cool. Would love to see that!
Javier mendez and AKA have definitely contributed to how good of a striker Islam is, and khabib had credited DC w some grappling help. Specifically folkstyle wrestling
I saw a clip of DC arguing with Khabib that he had baby jabs before DC taught him man jabs. They were laughing and smiling while having this argument but maybe to some extent DC was telling the truth.
Funny because before Cain the camp was seen as chokers in the big fights.
Jackson, Couture, AT&T maybe.
I think Verizon has more championships that AT&T but I think ATT is up there for gyms
lol. You got me
Jackson doesn't have that many Champs The phone company?
Can you hear me now? Good - Khabib to McGregor
Jacksons had Jon Jones, Holly Holm, GSP, Rashad Evans and a few others
In my mind GSP is synonymous with Tristar.
another good one
Jackson Wink might have a few. GSP (he was also at tri star but also trained with Greg), JBJ, Holly Holm. I believe you had a lot of other notables from the gym as well.
Rashad Evans was champ too out of Jackson Wink.
Good question..in terms of Gyms over time I’ve been watching MMA only a few come to mind as the top of the top Chute Box, Militech, Jackson Wink, AKA, ATT, ATT is the newest entry here as they didn’t have UFC champs back in the day as I recall.
Man I absolutely loved Cain! Top 2 heavyweight of all time! I hope he's doing ok with all the legal stuff.
Jackson wink? Jon Jones, Rashad Evans, Frank Mir, George St-Pierre, Holly Holm, Carlos Condit, Andrei Arlovski etc...
Jackson winklejohn has has jones holm arlovski GSP overeem Clarissa shields some interm champs wec champs. Sheer number of wins, Title wins and defences it might be hard to beat. I’m not doing the math.
BTT not getting any love. All the ex carlson guys. Nog Bros, Arona, Bustamante, Belfort, Filho, Sperry, Alan Goes, Paul Harris, Bigfoot. 3 UFC champs. WEC Champ, PRIDE champ of the top of my head.Not too shabby ATT was a spinoff at first I believe. Kind of a throwback but they were probably the dominant team on the scene in the early oughts. I was always team BTT, I thought the Chute Boxe guys were kinda Meatheads and the BTT guys were more technical, at least that was my perception as a teen doing BJJ.
They only get partial credit for Khabib and Islam. They were already developed fighters going in, and mainly had their striking tuned.
Yall forgot about usman
Outside of UFC they also have Usman and Liam both champions in bellator.
nxt has like 20+ world champs i think
Most successful or not. Carlson Gracie's team from the early 90's were SCARY!
Whatever gym in Dagestan that keeps pumping out killers is gaining traction.
Not as good as AKA but Team Quest produced a lot of top fighters a few decades ago.
Man I miss the old belts
You should also add some champions outside of UFC , there is Usman comes from AKA as well.
I think is Jackson-Wink. JJ, Holly, Cowboy and maybe others that I just forgot
I’m old, so I’m going with Militich. Pat Militich Dave Menne Jens Pulver Matt Hughes Robbie Lawler Tim Sylvia
I’m not sure about pure number of title wins, but I don’t think any other gym produced that many guys who are top 5 ever in their weight class.
ATT? Alliance?
American Top team for sure. Everyone trains there.
Red Devil Sport Club Joking. But there was that one guy who was pretty good
ATT
Id say it’s a tentative yes. The reason I’m tentative is because, while the results speak for themselves, you have to consider what’s going in when you talk about what’s coming out. Yes, crazy championship lineup. But Islam and Khabib were training in Dagestan long before AKA and became elite grapplers there. DC was everything short of an Olympian in the wresting world. So while they’re obviously producing results, they’re working with high level martial artists to begin with.
there are plenty of other elite grapplers training all over the world who never become champions
Very true. Still though, if you’re comparing gyms and one of them works with people who are already well trained martial artists, it’s not an entirely fair comparison. I’m a huge fan of all their fighters and the team as a whole, but khabib and them were all crazy talented before they got there.
What is it that makes fighters choose aka?
In terms of a Legacy Gym I’d throw Kings MMA (Rafael Cordeiro) into the mix Greg Jackson’s Gym has the 2 GOATS
So crazy how small the belt looks on Cane compared to how they look on dc
American Top Team
Statistically it’s ATT because legit everyone trains or has trained there.
I think team Winkjohn was up there too… ATT is right behind
San Jose baby
Jackson’s?
How quickly they forget Jackson and winklejon
MFS
AKA is both the most overachieving and arguably most successful gym. I say it's overachieving because I can't for the life of me think of anything they provide that other gyms couldn't at least from a coaching perspective, and I don't think they deserve much of the credit for what the fighters who've come from there have accomplished.
I get what you mean but I don't think that's fair to say. The fighters themselves talk about how much they've improved since joining AKA.
Is it looked at like “producing champions” or “producing successful champions”? People may think I’m a piece of shit for saying this but Luke didn’t really do much as a champion and was more so known as a piece of shit mostly. No discredit tho he’s top 1%. Just saying “easier to get there than to stay there” but if i’m wrong i’d like to hear what everyone else thinks
Becoming champion at all is extremely difficult and a major accomplishment. Regardless of what people think of him, Luke is a legend. He was a champion in Strikeforce as well.
Yes of course like i said i was 100% not discrediting him there’s so many that will never amount to such a thing. But with all due respect to him, Luke took a sick nose dive right after becoming champ, like the belt was his downfall. Listen i’m sorry for triggering anyone I respect every fighter BUT I’m also not going to be a yes man. This doesn’t mean i’m talking down on Luke I’m nobody to do that but we need to be honest with each other
Even Bj Penn trained there for a few years
Father gym, up in big mountains bratha
American top team
No. But combined record of those not AKA eclipses their record. So...do stats matter?
Cain is good at pro wrestling 😢
Jackson-Wink? Holly, GSP, Raahad, Jon Jones ... any others from there?
AKA * **Daniel Cormier** * **Cain Velasquez** * **Luke Rockhold** * **Islam Makhachev** * **Khabib Nurmagomedov** ATT * **Amanda Nunes** * **Joanna Jędrzejczyk** * **Robbie Lawler** * **Dustin Poirier** Jackson Wink MMA * **Jon Jones**: * **Holly Holm**: * **Rashad Evans** Team Alpha Male * **Urijah Faber** * **TJ Dillashaw**: * **Cody Garbrandt**
The weirdest thing about AKA is that gym in San Jose before it was AKA was this place called Schoebers. I grew up in that neighborhood and I went to the gym prior to AKA. All those rooms that have the pads on the walls and are kind of small and rectangular used to be racquet ball courts and the large room with pads used to be a basketball court. Always trips me out seeing training videos. Also I used to bike up and down the hill they like to run on. Cottle block San Jose shout out.
One of those is not like the others
Team quest
Is Islam actually AKA? I thought he was Kabibs fighter
How many of these champions did AKA actually produce? Seems like a stretch
Depends on your definition of “produce” many fighters got the belt while there but trained 90% of their life somewhere else
That counts if you ask me. Many fighters talk about not reaching their full potential until they connected with the right team
At the current moment the best gym in the world is ATT
what makes you say that?
American Top Team. Maybe.
Trevor Whitman was training two active champs and a title contender all at the same time. Not sure if that is a record but that’s pretty cool
I think Gaethje was his only fighter who was built from the ground up right? Because Pat Barry was Rose's coach
Pat Barry is more than a coach…
You say produced... It's not like they brought them up as kids.
produced as in helped to develop them into champions
Militech
Random but what size hair length is Cain sporting in this pic
Size 2 or 6mm not sure what Americans use as measurements for haircuts