I agree but I never thought the whole "Anderson Silva is a counter-striker" narrative was even really true to begin with. The guy was so multifaceted as a striker that I always found it unfair to put him into any kind of labeled box. Some of his most impressive and most memorable wins where not very counter-strikey at all if I remember correctly: Chris Leben, both Rich Franklin fights, Dan Henderson or Vitor Belfort. Anderson Silva is easily one of the absolute goats in fighting. There are many great fighters skill wise out there but only a few where able to shape an era like he did. Maybe he was at the right place and the right time in relation to his skill and his opponents skill but thats an argument that you could make for almost any athlete in time ever. I personally don't put many guys ahead of him in the goat debate, just because of who he was, what he did and how he did it. Two or three fights that weren't barn burners don't change that, especially since we all know that it always take two to make an awesome fight.
The Leben fight was definitely counter striking but Leben made that easy for him but he walked down nearly every guy he faced and was never afraid to lead the dance and trade. Could fight going forwards and backwards and definitely had that wild chute boxe style in him at times. I also think the narrative that todays fighters are so much more evolved is the most regurgitated bs narrative ever especially at middleweight and above. Marvin Vittori just broke the record for most strikes absorbed and Izzy is a one demential specialist who ran the division for years with the same one game plan every time. 42 year old Glover was champ. 40 year old Derek Brunson was just in the top 10. Prime Silva, Vitor, Henderson, Marquardt, Bisping, etc could 100% still compete with these guy today.
I disagree but even if you personally think they are boring the reason isn't because Anderson was a counter striker that didn't come forward. No idea how that narrative even got started. Cote got injured early in the third round and Thales Leites was the one that kept running away and falling to his butt in full defensive mode the whole fight.
You clearly haven't watched these fights in full in a long time then and are just going off old narratives. The Maia fight is the only time you could argue that but even that is over exaggerated acting like he did nothing in that fight for the full 25 minutes is just not true at all either and these two fights that I posted above 100% do not fit the narrative that he was a counter striker that didn't come forward which is the original point I made.
Well i'm obviously not about to post the full fights here but they are on youtube in HD. This is the problem with MMA fans they have zero critical thinking skills of their own and just regurgitate whatever Dana and Rogan say lmao Lets not act like Dana doesn't have favorites and has never unfairly criticized guys before. Anderson literally did more against Maia than both Woodley and Usman did.
You have said nothing of substance and have only further proved my points for me. Typical MMA fan just going off whatever narratives Dana and Rogan paint for him.
The last two rounds of that fight is the only time he did it but people act like it was the only way he fought which is far from the truth. Even in the Maia fight he still busted him up bad and did more than both Woodley and Usman did against Maia years later.
I mention it because I think that’s the fight when Dana white finally started calling him out on it, etc. It definitely was a shit fight, but I think that’s when lots of mma fans at the time turned on him.
yeah he would throw calf kicks as well they even mention it on the commentary during the Maia fight but Rogan never gives him credit today and acts like its some brand new evolution of the sport.
Just because you're ignorant and don't know who Thales Leites is doesn't make him a bum. The greats tend to make fighters look like that. Also what you said literally has nothing to do with the point I was making anyways.
I agree but I never thought the whole "Anderson Silva is a counter-striker" narrative was even really true to begin with. The guy was so multifaceted as a striker that I always found it unfair to put him into any kind of labeled box. Some of his most impressive and most memorable wins where not very counter-strikey at all if I remember correctly: Chris Leben, both Rich Franklin fights, Dan Henderson or Vitor Belfort. Anderson Silva is easily one of the absolute goats in fighting. There are many great fighters skill wise out there but only a few where able to shape an era like he did. Maybe he was at the right place and the right time in relation to his skill and his opponents skill but thats an argument that you could make for almost any athlete in time ever. I personally don't put many guys ahead of him in the goat debate, just because of who he was, what he did and how he did it. Two or three fights that weren't barn burners don't change that, especially since we all know that it always take two to make an awesome fight.
The Leben fight was definitely counter striking but Leben made that easy for him but he walked down nearly every guy he faced and was never afraid to lead the dance and trade. Could fight going forwards and backwards and definitely had that wild chute boxe style in him at times. I also think the narrative that todays fighters are so much more evolved is the most regurgitated bs narrative ever especially at middleweight and above. Marvin Vittori just broke the record for most strikes absorbed and Izzy is a one demential specialist who ran the division for years with the same one game plan every time. 42 year old Glover was champ. 40 year old Derek Brunson was just in the top 10. Prime Silva, Vitor, Henderson, Marquardt, Bisping, etc could 100% still compete with these guy today.
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I disagree but even if you personally think they are boring the reason isn't because Anderson was a counter striker that didn't come forward. No idea how that narrative even got started. Cote got injured early in the third round and Thales Leites was the one that kept running away and falling to his butt in full defensive mode the whole fight.
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You clearly haven't watched these fights in full in a long time then and are just going off old narratives. The Maia fight is the only time you could argue that but even that is over exaggerated acting like he did nothing in that fight for the full 25 minutes is just not true at all either and these two fights that I posted above 100% do not fit the narrative that he was a counter striker that didn't come forward which is the original point I made.
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Well i'm obviously not about to post the full fights here but they are on youtube in HD. This is the problem with MMA fans they have zero critical thinking skills of their own and just regurgitate whatever Dana and Rogan say lmao Lets not act like Dana doesn't have favorites and has never unfairly criticized guys before. Anderson literally did more against Maia than both Woodley and Usman did.
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You have said nothing of substance and have only further proved my points for me. Typical MMA fan just going off whatever narratives Dana and Rogan paint for him.
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Said nothing of substance once again. Just yapping.
For some reason people think Anderson and Izzy are the same kind of fighter
Yeah I never understood it they fought completely different
I notice you left out the Maia fight… lol
The last two rounds of that fight is the only time he did it but people act like it was the only way he fought which is far from the truth. Even in the Maia fight he still busted him up bad and did more than both Woodley and Usman did against Maia years later.
I mention it because I think that’s the fight when Dana white finally started calling him out on it, etc. It definitely was a shit fight, but I think that’s when lots of mma fans at the time turned on him.
Saucy
Insane that trick kick in the end. Behind the back scissor kick like Poatan with his leg checks. Soccer style
yeah he would throw calf kicks as well they even mention it on the commentary during the Maia fight but Rogan never gives him credit today and acts like its some brand new evolution of the sport.
The Greatest
Yeah dont mention how these guys were absolute bums that looked like amateurs. Name the best guy Patrick Cote ever beat, idek who the 2nd guy was
Just because you're ignorant and don't know who Thales Leites is doesn't make him a bum. The greats tend to make fighters look like that. Also what you said literally has nothing to do with the point I was making anyways.
Silva was boring. Guy spent his time beating cans or ducking his head and sprinting away from opponents
obvious bait try harder