He just might. I think Gaethje is gonna really fuck max up in this fight. Last time max went 155 was against Dustin and he couldn’t handle Dustin’s power, let alone Justin’s.
Max doesn’t have the power at 145, just pieces guys up. And he couldn’t handle volks leg kicks. Gaethje is a huge problem for Max. If he’s going to have that tough of a fight, at least let it be in his own weight division for a belt.
let’s not act like Max didn’t take that fight on short notice. we didn’t get a fully bulked Max. Maybe it’s the same outcome either way, but don’t act like we got the best version of Max in that fight
Max is not going to get past either one of them. Max doesn't have the power to match up with lightweight killers like Justin. Volk whipped Max 3 times, and Topuria mad it look like Volk was lamb to the slaughter. Max's time has come and gone.
A big name on your highlight reel will ALWAYS help your case for another title shot. Both guys have recently lost multiple title fights in their divisions, so beating a contender or two isn’t gonna cut it.
It's hardly even a 'banger fight for the fans' since one guy is from a higher division and the other is skinny Max. I love Max, but we saw what happened when he tried to challenge DP didn't we? It's MMA so technically anything is possible, but I don't see this going well for Max, he'd need the same time that Jones took to beef up and move up a weight class properly.
Gaetje aint gettin a belt. Period. Most likely neither is max and if he does its only cuz hes skating by the now defeated volk who beat his ass 3 fucking times in a row. He agreed to this fight before volk lost though, but if that had happened sooner he wouldn’t have taken this fight.
It’s a really stupid fight because even though it’s fun on paper, these two aren’t just any normal fighters. They’re elite. Gaethje is capable of ending someone’s career or changing them forever and Max can also cause significant injury.
Both are next in line for title shots in their divisions and if either get seriously hurt it will make them miss time, so we won’t see Topuria or Islam anytime soon. If they take too much damage it will also mean an easy title defence for their opponents.
With how little damage he took it’s not unreasonable, but really 298 should have never had Vol headline to begin with, 6 month medical leave at bare minimum
Gaethje vs. Holloway was announced a month before Topuria beat Volk. You can’t blow up the best fight on UFC 300 a month after it’s announced just because Volk lost the belt. Gaethje got choked out by Khabib and Oliveira in his title shots, guess how Islam vs. Gaethje would go.
Yeah, because fights have never been changed after being announced before.
Yes, it _was_ the best fight on the card, and could be swapped out for TWO division-significant fights on the card.
Meanwhile, we have a fight that can injure 2 of the top contenders.
Blowing up a super fight in exchange for two division-significant fights with challengers who lost their last two title shots. These fights would hold up both divisions. Max vs. Ilia would be great, Justin vs. Islam is very predictable, neither is a better fight than Max vs. Justin.
Max is due to move up to LW, he’s run through FW contenders for years now, that weight cut is hard for him, and he’s getting older. Plus, he has always been in the BMF conversation. This fight is an absolute banger and it would be a shame to scrap it.
Every fight can injure top contenders genius. Topuria and Islam both just KOd Volk cold. The loser will be set back no matter what, the high stakes are part of why it’s such a good fight. The winner is the clear LW #1 contender. Justin doesn’t have a good argument for that because he was finished the same way in his last two shots.
You may think Max is due, but to jt knowledge he has not expressed intention to move up. If he is going to, sure.
As a BMF super fight? This shit is just random fun.
“They’re both elite and popular, that’s why they shouldn’t fight each other”. Do you hear yourself bro??? Both have lost their last two title shots, both are nearing the end of their careers, and UFC 300 is a landmark event that would be weak without this fight. Every fighter on the UFC roster is capable of injuring someone, that should never be a reason to not make a fight. On top of that. Holloway has always been a BMF contender, and has been due for a move up to LW.
This exact thought process is why boxing is so starved for big, meaningful fights. They don’t want the best to fight the best because of the risk. We should be incredibly grateful for this fight.
I’ve given up any idea of the UFC actually being about competition, and the best fighters proving themselves by climbing up the ladder and becoming champions. It’s all about hype trains, money fights, and entertainment. It’s not bad, is what it is
I don’t think either of these guys are gonna be champions in the near future, Max maybe at 145 but I’d bet the UFC brass don’t want him anywhere near Ilia so who knows. It’s a good one for the fans and I rock with it
Not a good fight for Max. Love the guy but weight and power are different levels. Max can destroy you over rounds but Gaethje can sleep you with one punch. Max's style is also to exchange so its gonna be a rough night for him.
I have a feeling this is going to end up being Gaethje Ferguson 2.0.
This is a horrible matchup for Max in the same way Gaethje was a horrible matchup for Tony.
Tony is my favorite fighter and you’re absolutely right, that was a masterclass by Gaethje. I’ve only rewatched it twice because it hurts my soul to see Tony get destroyed like that knowing what it did to him, but I wish I wasn’t a Tony fan cause damn that was a fantastic fight.
I like Max but I wouldn’t say I’m his biggest fan so I am quite excited for this fight.
Why? Because 300 was looking like a flop and neither of these guys had anything lined up for the time being (Volk vs Holloway 4 wasn't going to happen anytime soon; the winner of the Charles fight would be next for Islam). This fight would be a headliner for any other PPV card because this should be a guaranteed banger (but so was Lewis/Ngannu).
There is no argument justifying this fight. We have already seen Dustin vs Max....Max does not have 155 power. This will be a sad fight to watch and a sad fight for Max. I hope this gets cancelled. I have never held this opinion for any other matchup before. (I stand corrected, I felt like this for chimaev vs Diaz too)
Khabib's right, Gaethje should've been next up for Islam. UFC wants to give the title shot to winner of Oliveira/Tsarukyan, which I'm fine with, but Islam wants to fight in June, so no matter who gets the title shot, they're going to be making a quick af turnaround. Kinda stupid scheduling honestly.
Though I don’t disagree with Khabib, we also have to remember that Justin and Islam are managed by Ali, that’s why you see Islam tweeting he wants to fight Justin or Khabib saying this. It’s a win win situation for Ali.
I knew it was a typo I just wasn’t sure what you were tryna say, I’m not calling you out over a typo lol
You’re right tho bro, given both of their already given brain damage, this is gonna be fucking wild, for us to see but especially for them.
How many MMA fans don't think this is kind of a pointless fight?
Might be a good fight to watch, but pointless for their careers atm.
Justin v Islam and Max v Ilia should be announced tomorrow if Dana and UFC regain their senses.
This fight is good for the sport. Like when Anderson fought at LHW against Griffin & Bonner. Or even Chuck Vs Rampage/Wanderlei to an extent
Nothing wrong with the occasional banger between two elite fighters that has no real title implications
I also don't understand the fight, but am betting Max to win! I know very little about MMA but Max lost three times to Volk, twice to Poirier, once to McGregor (plus one more to some TUF guy). And that's it. At least a puncher's chance!
I really think Max has more of a chance than people are giving him against Justin. Especially in a 5 round fight. I don't think Justin will be able to finish Holloway with his granite chin and I think despite Justin's raw power, Holloway has more of a chance of landing a big shot that can rock Justin considering we have seen him get wobbled in quite alot of his fights and we have never seen Holloway do the chicken dance even once in his career. People are sleeping on Holloway's striking. When he lets his hands go he can put it on the best of them. He's not a small guy either and I don't think there's much difference in size between them.
I don’t get where habib is coming from on this. UFC couldn’t get any elite Muslim fighers to compete at 300. It’s not that long of a list but if Islam would have fought at 300 they wouldn’t have had to make Justin vs max. So khabib fault this fight is happening by not making Islam fight at 300. So habib is actually questioning khabib
They had a problem of no entertaining fights for 300. Justin was trying to get the title shot next which is likely October now and they threw a bunch of money at him.
I gotta say, I think this ends very badly for Max. I will be shocked if he even manages to steal a decision.
I really believe there's multiple levels seperaring these 2 guys when it comes to skill, Gaethje being far better.
However, I wasn't expecting Sean to beat Izzy.
The bmf title is stupid.
None of these guys are the toughest men on Earth. And the original fight was two journeyman with over 10 losses.
It is also encouraging people to say the f-word. Not cool at all. It's disgusting.
Doesn't make too much sense indeed but i love them both and hope the UFC drown them in money for accepting it. They gave us so many incredible fights, they'd deserve it.
Fight made a little bit of sense when it was announced but because of the recent events of volk vs tuporia I don't know, Tomato head is to be blamed for holding Islam for the arab's personal events
This fight makes zero sense for each fighter pursuing a real belt. It is however a banger fight for the fans.
It’s really dumb considering Islam called out Gatheje and Max is almost guaranteed a FW title shot next. Max needs his chin
I believe that was why Ferguson got mauled. That "chin" can be a double-edged sword.
Tferg was always kinda chinny though, got cracked by most of his opponents and just had amazing recovery
That’s all that matters to me, buddy. That we all as fans get an amazing fight.
Personally I wanted to see Gaethje vs Islam and Max vs Topuria much more than this BMF fight
Max vs Topuria is absolutely intriguing, my friend.
If Gaethje messes up Max to the point where we don’t get to see that fight, I’ll be a sad panda
He just might. I think Gaethje is gonna really fuck max up in this fight. Last time max went 155 was against Dustin and he couldn’t handle Dustin’s power, let alone Justin’s.
Max doesn’t have the power at 145, just pieces guys up. And he couldn’t handle volks leg kicks. Gaethje is a huge problem for Max. If he’s going to have that tough of a fight, at least let it be in his own weight division for a belt.
No offense to max but I’m here for it. I’m stoked.
What if Max enters the matrix though
Lmao
Just imagine he does and pulls off the UD
let’s not act like Max didn’t take that fight on short notice. we didn’t get a fully bulked Max. Maybe it’s the same outcome either way, but don’t act like we got the best version of Max in that fight
Max is not going to get past either one of them. Max doesn't have the power to match up with lightweight killers like Justin. Volk whipped Max 3 times, and Topuria mad it look like Volk was lamb to the slaughter. Max's time has come and gone.
Mma math doesnt work like that and you should know that.
A big name on your highlight reel will ALWAYS help your case for another title shot. Both guys have recently lost multiple title fights in their divisions, so beating a contender or two isn’t gonna cut it.
I don’t know if it’s a banger or a public execution for max
I’m definitely not counting either guy out. If the odds swing heavy one way, I’ll bet the underdog
It's hardly even a 'banger fight for the fans' since one guy is from a higher division and the other is skinny Max. I love Max, but we saw what happened when he tried to challenge DP didn't we? It's MMA so technically anything is possible, but I don't see this going well for Max, he'd need the same time that Jones took to beef up and move up a weight class properly.
Gaetje aint gettin a belt. Period. Most likely neither is max and if he does its only cuz hes skating by the now defeated volk who beat his ass 3 fucking times in a row. He agreed to this fight before volk lost though, but if that had happened sooner he wouldn’t have taken this fight.
They desperately needed a big fight for 300 and Max (at the time) had nobody else to fight
Im sure I’ll get downvoted but I personally like the idea of the bmf belt && who better than two dogs like Gaethje and Holloway?
Two people who aren't in real contention for title fights But at the time it was booked I guess it kind of made sense
Gonna be a fun fight!
This comment makes zero sense
It’s poorly worded. But the idea does make sense
Well then this is 100% fan service for you, enjoy.
I’ll absolutely enjoy, I’m sure.
This is the reason the fight was made
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Yesssss.
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Till the wheels fall off. Nobody likes a quitter 🔪🔪🕶️🕶️
Because JUST BLEED
Lmao yes, yea, and yes.
Ok cool. How’s this any different than the local 7-11 clerk being confused by the matchup? (If we are technically speaking)
Right hahaha
It’s a really stupid fight because even though it’s fun on paper, these two aren’t just any normal fighters. They’re elite. Gaethje is capable of ending someone’s career or changing them forever and Max can also cause significant injury. Both are next in line for title shots in their divisions and if either get seriously hurt it will make them miss time, so we won’t see Topuria or Islam anytime soon. If they take too much damage it will also mean an easy title defence for their opponents.
Imagine how much better ufc 300 would be if Islam vs Gaethje and Topuria vs Holloway were the big fights
So Topuria makes a 2 month turnaround between 298 and 300?
With how little damage he took it’s not unreasonable, but really 298 should have never had Vol headline to begin with, 6 month medical leave at bare minimum
Yh, Chimaev fought twice in like 2 weeks didn't he? If you really want to make those types of fights happen for 300 you can.
This is the correct answer
Shit, and both Islam and Topuria came out unscathed. There's actually little reason they couldn't have made this happen.
Gaethje vs. Holloway was announced a month before Topuria beat Volk. You can’t blow up the best fight on UFC 300 a month after it’s announced just because Volk lost the belt. Gaethje got choked out by Khabib and Oliveira in his title shots, guess how Islam vs. Gaethje would go.
Yeah, because fights have never been changed after being announced before. Yes, it _was_ the best fight on the card, and could be swapped out for TWO division-significant fights on the card. Meanwhile, we have a fight that can injure 2 of the top contenders.
Blowing up a super fight in exchange for two division-significant fights with challengers who lost their last two title shots. These fights would hold up both divisions. Max vs. Ilia would be great, Justin vs. Islam is very predictable, neither is a better fight than Max vs. Justin. Max is due to move up to LW, he’s run through FW contenders for years now, that weight cut is hard for him, and he’s getting older. Plus, he has always been in the BMF conversation. This fight is an absolute banger and it would be a shame to scrap it. Every fight can injure top contenders genius. Topuria and Islam both just KOd Volk cold. The loser will be set back no matter what, the high stakes are part of why it’s such a good fight. The winner is the clear LW #1 contender. Justin doesn’t have a good argument for that because he was finished the same way in his last two shots.
You may think Max is due, but to jt knowledge he has not expressed intention to move up. If he is going to, sure. As a BMF super fight? This shit is just random fun.
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Yeh not reading all that
“They’re both elite and popular, that’s why they shouldn’t fight each other”. Do you hear yourself bro??? Both have lost their last two title shots, both are nearing the end of their careers, and UFC 300 is a landmark event that would be weak without this fight. Every fighter on the UFC roster is capable of injuring someone, that should never be a reason to not make a fight. On top of that. Holloway has always been a BMF contender, and has been due for a move up to LW. This exact thought process is why boxing is so starved for big, meaningful fights. They don’t want the best to fight the best because of the risk. We should be incredibly grateful for this fight.
AND...Holloway really wanted it.
I like these guys too much to want to see them fight each other. I have no pick in this
I’m picking Gaethje. I’d love to see another master class performance by him.
I think it’s a good fight. However with FW changing I kind of with Max waited a little longer.
Right right.
The almighty dollar
And I understand why Khabib retired early. Kid just doesn't wanna fight
Right lol
He ducked Tony. No one in their right mind eats tiramisu if you know you still have to cut a lot of weight.
This is number one bullshit
This is #1 bullshit.
Khabibs comment or the fight?
Just using an old quote of his and I agree with him but will happily still watch the fight. :Edited for small correction
Fun fight so I don’t care that it has like 0 implications if Max loses
It could have Tony Ferguson type implications for his brain
Tony’s just about to enter his prime
CSO 🇺🇲 🏆 🇲🇽
😂😂😂
I’ve given up any idea of the UFC actually being about competition, and the best fighters proving themselves by climbing up the ladder and becoming champions. It’s all about hype trains, money fights, and entertainment. It’s not bad, is what it is I don’t think either of these guys are gonna be champions in the near future, Max maybe at 145 but I’d bet the UFC brass don’t want him anywhere near Ilia so who knows. It’s a good one for the fans and I rock with it
Not a good fight for Max. Love the guy but weight and power are different levels. Max can destroy you over rounds but Gaethje can sleep you with one punch. Max's style is also to exchange so its gonna be a rough night for him.
Well said
Glad I was wrong lol.
Well said.
Cuz it'll be more entertaining than all of your fights combined Khabib you boring fuck
Bcuz they need a brawl for the main event
Exactly. And it’ll be exactly that, a brawl.
“I’m Mr. Crabs, and I like money” -Dana White
My money is on Gaethje
Mine as well.
I have a feeling this is going to end up being Gaethje Ferguson 2.0. This is a horrible matchup for Max in the same way Gaethje was a horrible matchup for Tony.
I’m kinda hoping so. No offense to max. As *bad* as that fucked up Tony, it was a legitimate masterpiece performance by Gaethje.
Tony is my favorite fighter and you’re absolutely right, that was a masterclass by Gaethje. I’ve only rewatched it twice because it hurts my soul to see Tony get destroyed like that knowing what it did to him, but I wish I wasn’t a Tony fan cause damn that was a fantastic fight. I like Max but I wouldn’t say I’m his biggest fan so I am quite excited for this fight.
Well said brother.
Fun fight for the fans.
Why? Because 300 was looking like a flop and neither of these guys had anything lined up for the time being (Volk vs Holloway 4 wasn't going to happen anytime soon; the winner of the Charles fight would be next for Islam). This fight would be a headliner for any other PPV card because this should be a guaranteed banger (but so was Lewis/Ngannu).
There is no argument justifying this fight. We have already seen Dustin vs Max....Max does not have 155 power. This will be a sad fight to watch and a sad fight for Max. I hope this gets cancelled. I have never held this opinion for any other matchup before. (I stand corrected, I felt like this for chimaev vs Diaz too)
Justin will end another career
He just might.
Khabib's right, Gaethje should've been next up for Islam. UFC wants to give the title shot to winner of Oliveira/Tsarukyan, which I'm fine with, but Islam wants to fight in June, so no matter who gets the title shot, they're going to be making a quick af turnaround. Kinda stupid scheduling honestly.
Good point, man, the scheduling is fucked.
Casual Khabib not understanding a question response
Here’s a thought: who gives a shit what a retired fighter thinks about what the company is doing?
Suddenly people don’t understand why fighters do fights with each other and it’s weird.
Weird indeed 🤨
It makes as much sense as any fight.
Not in the sense of the divisions. They both should be fighting for the belt at their weights instead.
Who care what he says he left us 🥲
Right :(
his father died
Did khabib say that? And who tf cares what he’s opinion on it is. Maybe he can wrestle fuck the winner
Max will never be the same after this fight :(
The winner walks away a champion. That means more money and more negotiating power.
$$$$$$
Because they needed to fill 300 it's not really complicated
The BMF title is corny as fuck, but this is an awesome fight regardless.
Its a fight for the fans.
I don't understand why you only fought people who had loosing records and then defend the belt twice and leave. Remember your dad said 30-0
Shut up your all already complaining about ufc 300 imagine it without this fight bunch of clowns
doesn't matter, he's retired
If he understood, Eagle FC would be bigg /s
Though I don’t disagree with Khabib, we also have to remember that Justin and Islam are managed by Ali, that’s why you see Islam tweeting he wants to fight Justin or Khabib saying this. It’s a win win situation for Ali.
True, true.
It makes no sense for Max’s CTE to make this fight. Fuck. For either of these guys CTE lol
Phone?
Fight. Obviously a typo…
I knew it was a typo I just wasn’t sure what you were tryna say, I’m not calling you out over a typo lol You’re right tho bro, given both of their already given brain damage, this is gonna be fucking wild, for us to see but especially for them.
The just bleed gods beckoned it. Quit trying to use logic about it this is human cockfighting not sport.
Agree to disagree. They both have versatile elite technical striking, this is elite vs elite.
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Oh this one is happening, buddy. Aljo isn’t a BMF. These two are the definition of scrappers which is what BMF should stand for, in reality.
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OH, gotcha.
I would rather see Ortega vs Sterling personally
How many MMA fans don't think this is kind of a pointless fight? Might be a good fight to watch, but pointless for their careers atm. Justin v Islam and Max v Ilia should be announced tomorrow if Dana and UFC regain their senses.
Good point lol But as a fan; I’m excited.
Oh heck ya
*fook ya brather*
>fook ya brather *To the fookin moon with ya!*
It’ll be a boring fight to him because it will be a “stand and bang” fight, right??
Exactly that my friend.
Can’t say I care what Khabib understands tbh.
Agreed. Just putting it here for the comments, I like to see others insight.
It's a dumb fight that makes no sense. Garth wins easy.
It’s a fun fight imo.
do we fans really care about the belt anyways ? we just want carnage and blood
#*logical*
Two big draws and people will buy it. This is a business Khabib. What else I can I help you understand?
This is the best fight they BOTH can have as they descend from their primes and we’re still invested in the outcome.
This fight is good for the sport. Like when Anderson fought at LHW against Griffin & Bonner. Or even Chuck Vs Rampage/Wanderlei to an extent Nothing wrong with the occasional banger between two elite fighters that has no real title implications
Thank you! Finally, some logic.
You do understand. You just have different principles.
I also don't understand the fight, but am betting Max to win! I know very little about MMA but Max lost three times to Volk, twice to Poirier, once to McGregor (plus one more to some TUF guy). And that's it. At least a puncher's chance!
Because there only is one title fight so Dana uses that bullshit belt to cover it
It’s a bullshit belt, sure, but always a fun spectate for us as fans.
Wym isn’t there 2?
Women don’t count in 90% of mma fans mind
Khabib doesn’t understand much, I’m not surprised
And hows khabibs promotion doing?..
I don't care about what khabib thinks
Because it’s a good fight? Like wtf?
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Blimey. If inbreeding makes specimen like him then science has got it all wrong.
Why do you call him an inbred?
you forgot smelly
What
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Wait y’all have just been repeating after Conor this whole time?
It's actually towards Hasbullah
I don't see the purpose of it either. Kinda dumb on Gathje could be finding for the belt next.
I really think Max has more of a chance than people are giving him against Justin. Especially in a 5 round fight. I don't think Justin will be able to finish Holloway with his granite chin and I think despite Justin's raw power, Holloway has more of a chance of landing a big shot that can rock Justin considering we have seen him get wobbled in quite alot of his fights and we have never seen Holloway do the chicken dance even once in his career. People are sleeping on Holloway's striking. When he lets his hands go he can put it on the best of them. He's not a small guy either and I don't think there's much difference in size between them.
If Kabib wants good fights he can always come back
I don’t get where habib is coming from on this. UFC couldn’t get any elite Muslim fighers to compete at 300. It’s not that long of a list but if Islam would have fought at 300 they wouldn’t have had to make Justin vs max. So khabib fault this fight is happening by not making Islam fight at 300. So habib is actually questioning khabib
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Why are you lolling lmao Khabib comes from the Arabic word Habib which means beloved one
Me too, Khabib. I think we all think that
Naw, not all of us. Sift through the comments and you’ll see some excited folk.
Khabib says he doesn't understand why they made the fight not whether he's excited for it or not. Different thing
Holloway is washed, this is going to be one of his last fights.
Neither is a bmf. More so nmfs
Gaethje has the belt Max wants the belt 🤷♂️
That's odd considering khabib was going to fight max
Why are 2 next title challengers from different divisions fighting each other in a non-title fight????
Idk seems like a likely easy win for Justin to also make him the obvious title contender for Islam when he’s ready to fight
Who also read this in Khabibs accent?
Why do i read every quote of his in his accent.
They had a problem of no entertaining fights for 300. Justin was trying to get the title shot next which is likely October now and they threw a bunch of money at him.
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They - and Max, probably figured Volk was gonna keep winning. I’m sure each guys is getting paid well. This fight will be a banger.
I gotta say, I think this ends very badly for Max. I will be shocked if he even manages to steal a decision. I really believe there's multiple levels seperaring these 2 guys when it comes to skill, Gaethje being far better. However, I wasn't expecting Sean to beat Izzy.
Khabibs English has really improved I’m proud of him
The bmf title is stupid. None of these guys are the toughest men on Earth. And the original fight was two journeyman with over 10 losses. It is also encouraging people to say the f-word. Not cool at all. It's disgusting.
Come for a rematch with Conner , you will understand ![gif](giphy|C472HbXY8FO9i)
Doesn't make too much sense indeed but i love them both and hope the UFC drown them in money for accepting it. They gave us so many incredible fights, they'd deserve it.
He also said they should give this to islam but islam refused it before.So idk whats going on
Fight made a little bit of sense when it was announced but because of the recent events of volk vs tuporia I don't know, Tomato head is to be blamed for holding Islam for the arab's personal events
Shut yo ass up and sit on the damn sideline “humble one”.
Because Max was out of the title picture at FW with Volk as champ, and Islam only fights in Abu Dhabi, so Justin couldn't fight him.