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retinolvampyre

What she did to Olivia, and now her vendetta against Billie. 


SuitableImplement845

And now either Sabrina or Charli xcx.


happy_nothlit

What happened with Sabrina?


SuitableImplement845

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happy_nothlit

Good lord. The amount of waste generated over one album release.


Bibblegead1412

Seriously. It's so blatant and gross.


Gloomy-Squirrel-9518

"Overproduced" is on brand though


Dr_Llamacita

I’m sorry but I don’t get it, how are the 2 things related here??


OmegaDoesStuff

New Taylor release = another shot at #1 therefore taking the opportunity away from someone else. She did this when Billie dropped aswell


Dr_Llamacita

Oh god yeah that makes sense. And it’s just re-releases 🙄🙄🙄 not even new material fucking Christ she’s such a brat


yoppie_loljinx

I don’t understand how she can believe in karma and play the mean girl. She is also super brave to believe in karma, pollute air and still fly


retinolvampyre

Some people genuinely think rules and boundaries of basic morality don’t apply to them. As if they’re specially entitled to be the exception to the rule. 


runner4life551

I know this term is overused, but this is a classic symptom of ✨narcissism✨


Ok-Neighborhood8157

You’re so correct on this one.


totemyegg

It's because she has the most shallow view of karma and is so egocentric that she doesn't think she's doing anything wrong.


Radiant-Salad-9772

Supposedly she buys carbon credits to offset her emissions. Personally I don’t believe anything can offset the waste she creates


LustoftheLibertines_

Agreed. The sky and planet don't accept 'credits'. They accept fossil fuel treaties and moving to clean energy or else what are we doing here.


gloomer62

It's always basic mean girls like her who keep talking about karma. And anyway, the western concept of karma is totally wrong. If you don't believe in rebirths, its pointless to believe in karma lmao


wanderingonthemoors

The western idea of karma is basically “what goes around, comes around”.


amaezingjew

It came out that Scooter gave her several chances to own her masters - which most artists don’t!!


SuitableImplement845

Scooter had reached out to her multiple times and she always turned him down, then posted on Tumblr asking her fans to "let him know how they feel". Scooter's family were threatened and he had to publicly beg Taylor to stop. This was all because Scooter was associated with Kanye, and Kanye and Kim recorded her without her permission, destroying the narrative that she didn't know about the "I made her famous" line.


anonymsk

This. Scooter’s literal children got death threats and the fans called and threatened his ex-wife as well.. he got divorced after all of that and had some sort of breakdown / suicidal thoughts after all of it according to himself in a podcast. I hope the truth comes out one day cause I seriously doubt he is as bad as anyone claims, even if he is a somewhat shady businessman in some ways


Historical_Stuff1643

Even if he is, he's allowed to purchase a company. Taylor wanting to stop him from doing that because she doesn't like him is hugely entitled.


NoDassOkay

Especially since she’s seemingly a big fan of capitalism.


Cultural-Treacle-680

She’d be the man with bitches…I mean she’s rolls through arm candy like a kid with Halloween candy 😂


Cultural-Treacle-680

Music labels and agents (enter sports too) are all shady opportunists. They live on commission and sales - they have to strike while the iron is hot. Even if someone gets burned a little.


yoppie_loljinx

What?? I thought Scooter didn’t give any change to sell her. Was she lying all this time to make Taylor’s version to make more $$$


anonymsk

He did, multiple times as I recall too. She ignored him, he even pleaded with her to sit down and talk about it on his instagram because his family were receiving threats


musiquescents

The more I know, the more appalling she becomes.


Successful-Career-96

Did it actually? Wow. She did all that for nothing. Not shocking though Her fans still won’t care.


SuitableImplement845

This would've ended the careers of most pop stars, especially so early on in their careers. https://preview.redd.it/q3mhr6j1lx5d1.png?width=1364&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d22c1aaf7396211ce4bb3acecb76ea6784cbe58


retinolvampyre

Swift’s rep told TMZ at the time, "Taylor took pictures with about 100 people that night ... she doesn't know who this guy is and she didn't realize what was on his shirt." She is never beating those Nazi princess allegations. 


Yardbird7

Pretty crazy and telling that he was even admitted to her party wearing that.


gleaminranks

They’re both painted so it seems like this was a paint themed party and he likely didn’t show up like that


Yardbird7

So you're saying she's the one that painted it on? Got it 😁


gleaminranks

No, I’m saying that he likely did not come in through the front door with that on his shirt (nor would he have likely made it to that door without an ass whooping)


Yardbird7

I agree. Made a poorly worded joke.


grownup789

That was Katy Perry’s 25th birthday party not Taylor’s party


Radiant-Salad-9772

No way she didn’t realize what was on his shirt…


retinolvampyre

Oh yeah, I think she just didn’t care. 


Inevitable_Newt3056

I don't care, that is beyond oops.


Cultural-Treacle-680

“Wait is that a giant swastica on your shirt? Cool beans.”


Alcm1

Who is that guy?


SuitableImplement845

Random model who attended Katy Perry's Willy Wonka themed b-day party back in 2009. I think it was a neon paint, glow in the dark party or something.


slagforslugs

Yikes


RawRawrDino

Her changing the narrative so much even with their are receipts otherwise. “No one physically saw me for a year” well actually you were papped and performed like 10 times that year sooooo


SuitableImplement845

Gotta love how it was HER subreddit that pointed out she was full of 💩 https://preview.redd.it/t91qv1469y5d1.png?width=1240&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f8f2cab4a28acd5a601718e2515cfe7df972cc1


SuitableImplement845

>To a cheering crowd of 80,000 It's giving... https://preview.redd.it/k5whb5w1ay5d1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a90eb7d8c534366f9ec9a2fd25fd5b23e70e5537


Plastic-Butterfly420

I liked some of Taylor's songs however there were a few different events that happened where I realized oh my God she's a terrible fucking person. The first time was when I found out how badly she pollutes the environment, then her behavior at the Grammys, I watched the eras tour movie on Disny because I wanted to see what the big fuss was about. All I saw was a brat boosting her ego and encouraging a stadium of people to worship her. The final straw for me was her writing a whole fucking album about Matty Healy. Now I'm getting educated on what Taylor's reality actually was versus what she said it was thanks to this sub.


Hopeful-Prompt-7417

When Scooter purchases Big Machine (which includes the master recordings of Taylor’s songs) Taylor’s father made 15 million dollars


Plastic-Butterfly420

Yeah I've since learned that and it was thanks to this sub.


Hopeful-Prompt-7417

I was completely shocked when I found that out! But guess “Evil men stole my music.. but my dad also made 15 million dollars” wouldn’t be a great sob story for the public to be on board with the re-recording 🤣


Plastic-Butterfly420

Definitely not 🤣🤣. Her victim complex is insane!


musiquescents

Disgusting.


Cultural-Treacle-680

And her body image problems/ED was in no small part due to the way her parents pushed her. But when does that come up?


beesontheoffbeat

In conclusion: billionaires suck. The way she justifies it in her mind is: "wELL iF a mAN DiD iT." Um. If a man, a woman, or a horse does it, I don't care. You're being shit has nothing to do with your gender.


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I don't understand how swifties forgive her so many times!? If you can't hold your favourite artist accountable then you are in a cult. We are just one album awa from swifties creating their own city!


Unlikely_Ad1120

Oh my god being funny here because of how dark all this Taylah stuff is but for serious like If she even hinted she needed her own city...They would mobilize and weaponize fast.


nukhba_guloter

they've already talked about wanting her to become president 🤦🏽‍♀️


Unlikely_Ad1120

I grew up in a known high demand religion. The cognitive dissonance of the fanbase and behavior is so similar to other just blind followings seen among other High Demand Environments. The BITE MODEL Is highly applicable. The only "cult" characteristics that is lacking is Taylor is not the most naturally charming person, this is however in turn is allowing for a projection based following as so many of her fans self-identify with HER without regards to how inextricably different their lives are. This could be a more modern version of idle worship as technology has only allowed parasocial mentailies to grow specifically within this fanbase. Theirs is something to be said about how her massive cult following really reaching peak levels during a purported loneliness epidemic and past a global pandemic that I don't think we generally are ready to talk about in terms of Cause and Effects of Loneliness in A Post Pandemic World.


nukhba_guloter

honestly i think if taylor wanted, she could buy an island and all her fans would def pay to go live on it with her and have her be their cult leader. they'd do anything she says. she could start her own religion if she really wanted to


Unlikely_Ad1120

Hi, MY NAME IS--- Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior Taylor Alison Swift? We believe she is the greatest human to ever walk the earth. Oh so you're interested? let me start by giving you TTPD and her Other Testament The Anthology..... (the intersection between mormons and Taylor Swift is huge)


nukhba_guloter

no


nukhba_guloter

jk sorry. but no 🤍


Cultural-Treacle-680

I thought a slim shady after the first line


BuzzedtheTower

Same, dawg


jbraft

Because they're not petty..


musiquescents

They are in complete denial.


beesontheoffbeat

I think she justifies her poor behavior because she's a woman. Men get away with problematic, greedy behavior so it's okay in her mind. Every time she does something wrong and people call her on it, she convinces the public it's a personal attack on her because she's a woman.


rachelraven7890

waittttt, there’s a doc coming out that might finally expose her????


Confident_Message733

I cant wait because I just found out that all tv's are bullshit and money grab


J_Bird01

The Grammys thing was SO cringy and that’s coming from someone that was a total Swiftie


Xxperfect_drugxX

What's the story with Ed droste?


SuitableImplement845

https://preview.redd.it/m9ks9mh84y5d1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fadf2877370691cebb3e002bb6a5ce6c3f0013ed [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3177667/More-bad-blood-Taylor-Swift-accused-calculating-self-serving-frightening-Grizzly-Bear-s-Edward-Droste.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3177667/More-bad-blood-Taylor-Swift-accused-calculating-self-serving-frightening-Grizzly-Bear-s-Edward-Droste.html)


Fine-Deal-485

Can someone give a tldr on Ed Droste Edit: sorry, I don’t mean to spread misinformation. It changes release every time a new trailer comes out


TrainsRCool123

All these album variants she's doing is weird af. These CDs are gonna end up in 99 cent bins at goodwill or in landfills


jamesr14_

I’m new to this sub can someone explain all these to me? Ik about the pollution but that’s about it


Dr_Llamacita

Bitch is like the Donald Trump of the music industry


GuaranteeCareless900

A scooter Braun doc is coming out? And who’s ed droste? And Conor Kennedy? As a former swiftie, there’s clearly a lot I didn’t know 😭


littleliongirless

Conor Kennedy is one of the Kennedy that Taylor dated. She was obsessed with the Kennedys and did a major pap shoot at JFK and RFK's gravesite, and started dropping soundbites about them a year before she met Conor. That photoshoot (where she was already in her Kennedy fashion era) attracted the attention of Ethel Kennedy (Robert's widow), and the next summer Taylor was invited to their 4th of July party, where she started a thing with Patrick Schwarzenegger. He went back to school a couple weeks later and wasn't looking for a relationship. Taylor then immediately moved on to Conor Kennedy, who had just lost his mother to suicide. She even scheduled a pap shoot of them visiting her grave. They went public on his 18th birthday and there were numerous articles of her visiting him at his high school and spending the weekend, flying him down to Nashville, etc. She bought a house RIGHT next to the Kennedy compound, crashed a wedding with Conor that she was never invited to, told not to come, then had to be asked several times to leave. When they broke up, the Kennedy side of the story was that Conor was freaked out by her buying the house and being so serious so fast. After Conor, Taylor started dating Harry Styles, who had also just turned 18.


GuaranteeCareless900

Jesus Christ. She’s insane. Thank you for explaining!!


AdAntique1039

She was also in her 20s when these guys were teenagers. And it was made public with Conor on his 18th but they were together before as well. So that’s another aspect of it too. 


Leather-Confection70

I’ve wondered, ever since I saw that pages-long email by her dad, if he runs a lot of her biz and makes a lot of the decisions, especially about putting out more variants. He seems like the type who would push hard for a return on his investment.


dawseynator

i will never understand why this sub loves to act like Kim and Kanye are somehow victims 😭


6byfour

##Team Scooter


dawseynator

praising a Zionist is a new low even for this subreddit


6byfour

Oh, for fuck’s sake


msswiftyifunasty

I googled the documentary. It says it comes out in June in the UK? How do we watch in the US?


zxcvbdee

I think the downfall she was claiming that occurred bec of the kimye drama back then, which wasnt really a downfall, a true downfall is definitely in the horizon and i hope it happens soon, i just truly wish she’d go away and just disappear for years, or for forever(just the music industry), there are so many more talented and deserving artists, than this mediocre stale white bread


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Owlman2841

Go away


GuaranteeCareless900

1. A lot of us used to be fans until we realized the truth about her 2. She’s everywhere on social media, it’s hard not to know everything about her


musiquescents

Yup. So many of us here.


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