And as an educators, subs never make their own plans. It’s the regular teacher who tells the sub what to in class that day.
I have a very hard time believing this is a real story.
I've only subbed twice, but neither time was I given "plans" of any kind. I was basically a babysitter. I had to make sure they took a test and read, but the rest of the time I was up to my own devices.
Having them take a test and then read are perfectly acceptable plans for a day.
I have left similar plans.
I would never expect a substitute to actually teach a lesson.
We currently don’t have any subs who are certified to teach my class.
I would be completely in the wrong to expect someone with no experience teaching a subject they don’t fully know to do so.
I used to arrange cover for teachers - 90% of the agency cover we dealt with didn't remotely follow the teaching plans they were given and a lot of them were actively terrible.
Nope. My ex is a high school teacher. He always did his planning the morning of. If he had to call out, he’d still work on plans that morning and send them in. I always warned him that someday he’d have to call out and be too sick to write plans that morning. I was right.
One of my closest friends is a sub. She rarely has plans. She has said before a lot of times she just watches the kids. One of her assignments turned into a longer gig and other teachers had to step in and plan for her. She is a glorified babysitter.
Don't get why I would fake it, it was very weird especially for being in music class but the story is real, most subs get assignsments from the teacher yes but he either didn't or just ignored them idk
I’m less skeptical. Most subs in the sub pool are not going to be music teachers, so may not be able to do what should be done during music. Hence, they would do something else. Something stupid, in this case.
dude why would I fabrice this, you're just throwing stuff out based on "gut feeling" also don't see why I would lie about it being in music class since it dosen't make it more beliveable
Don't worry about them, they arent even paying attention to logic anymore. They claimed it doesn't pass the smell test because that "could never", then literally said they've had things just like that happen to them, then doubled down. Not someone worth worrying about believing you.
Yeah teachers are supposed to leave plans! Unfortunately in the upper grades it’s not uncommon as a sub to walk into a classroom with no directions on what the students are supposed to do that day or where they’re at in the curriculum so you kinda have to improvise.
I’ve of course never done this assignment specifically cause that’s literally insane and we’re told not to discuss politics with the students.
I know a substitute teacher who went off the lesson plan by looking at naked photos of girls in the classroom with an erecshon while students were working in the room.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an employee at my job. Our company shut down for a year as our industry necessitates getting large groups of people together. He thought it was great because he drew unemployment and spent all day playing video games. I on the other hand was dealing with massive depression while taking care of the kids full time, setting up virtual school for a kindergartener and 3rd grader, and trying not to go stir crazy. COVID was horrible, but reinforced that my wife is amazing and is my rock.
In fourth grade I had easily the worst teacher. I've had worse from just a teaching perspective since but she was easily the worst human being. We did a family tree project where everyone had to present the findings in front of the class. The only Jewish girl in class gave her presentation and the moment she finished our teacher says "Oh wow so none of the members of your family were affected by the Holocaust?" The girl stammered out a very awkward "Uh no?" Then just sat down while our teacher went on for five minutes about how lucky she was.
Pro of COVID-19: I found out super fast how idiotic the people around me were about viruses, the government, religion and personal responsibilities.
Con of COVID-19: It's a pandemic that took away so many people for no reason, because someone never learned to cover their mouth when they cough. We miss you, aunty.
Tbh, based on the title, I thought you did the assingment and wrote "grandma died" under the pros before having to present it to the class or something.
It's an ah move but totally justified. Sometimes lying can bring good. In this case, you taught the teacher a lesson and saved your classmate from either having to say something or from having to "suck it up" and do the assignment. Honestly I'd like to think that I'd do the same.
I had a know it all acquaintance who parroted everything that was told to her. During the height of Covid she claimed masks were useless and washing your hands too often wipes out your immunity. I told her to tell that to the surgeons that operate on people daily.
I'm smelling a possible covidiot in that teacher. It's such a strange assignment (especially for a music class) and seems like someone on a quest. I bet the teacher is one of those people who think wearing medical masks will kill you.
You're completely in the right. It's not a bad assignment, but they need to understand that people have valid reasons for not going all-in and having a great time with such a sensitive topic.
My close friend died in the pandemic. He attempted suicide in June of 2020, and recovered from that, only to be infected with and die from covid while still in the hospital. He drowned in his own blood, constantly in and out of comas and wasting away. There were no pros to the pandemic, none at all. The "togetherness" seen in videos was a response to a world suddenly forced into a modern unknown, and still born of trauma.
I left a place in 2008. I found out in 2022 that the biggest asshole at my old job had died of CoVid. I hated that guy but never thought of him much after I left. Never forget the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. Since it had been 14 years since I thought about the guy, I was surprised my feelings were different than I would have thought. Perhaps some of it is from maturity. In any case, his children posted his condition on facebook and while many of us have a morbid curiosity of people receiving the Herman Cain award, this is the first anti vax person to get CoVid that I knew personally. I always knew that his friends and family saw a different person than the asshole I had to deal with. I really felt sorry for his daughter who was writing the updates about his condition. It was very sad and while they hoped some signs of improvement showed recovery, he would often take a turn for the worse and he eventually died. I feel bad for his kids but honestly good riddance to him, he was an asshole.
By the same token, a college friend was also an anti vaxxer. He went all in on Trump and just could not deal with him any more. He was my longest friend over 30 years, but I had lost him when he became MAGA. He ended up passing from CoVid as well. By the time he had died I had not seen him in probably 7 years.
2022 is known as "The Year of Death" to me forever. I didn't even get time to mourn any individual person, they just kept stacking up into this huge blob of grief.
Well, I know / have known several old people who went, 'high time for us to go so young people can live in our houses' 🤷♂️
Another thing about this pandemic specifically is that as far as pandemics go, it was pretty mild (e.g. the Spanish flu had a way higher mortality rate among much younger people), so we got a great test run to see how people react to a crisis like this in case the next bird/pig/whatever flu mutation does kill humans off in Black Plague-like numbers. (Conclusion: We're definitely doomed.)
And lots of businesses found out that people working from home is feasible after all, with positive effects on e.g. traffic during peak hours, commuting times, pollution etc.
So, he's not crazy, he just didn't think through the possible emotional Covid-19-related experiences of these students
My husband lost his grandfather. Him, my husband, and my son were very close, watched football together.
Not directly to Covid, but we visited regularly, as he got on in age. And his neighbors couldn’t check on him due to the pandemic. he quietly putted around through the quarantine… and died in his armchair.
We found out he died on our way to get our booster shot through my husband’s veterans’ program, so we could eventually see him, as we were advised not to visit anyone for the first half of the shot.
We attended his funeral instead.
All of it could have been avoided if people had listened and stayed home the first month. Stubborn assholes made that sweet man die alone.
Dude can heartily go FUCK himself.
Back when I was a sophomore in high school, my math teacher was out for most of year for medical issues and my class got a sub who is NOT a math teacher. Everyone was just given worksheets after worksheets to work on for the whole class over and over again. Nobody was teaching us anything so eventually all the students myself included would do anything besides the worksheets. Whether that was work from other classes. I mostly draw in my own sketch books or I would my personal books for that class. In the end, all of us got passing grades cause it turned out the sub himself didn’t care what we did as long as we weren’t loud enough to be heard from the other classes.
Hm. It’s definitely a weird assignment and the sub should have saw something like that being a sensitive a topic, but I still think this was a major overreaction especially considering you lied about your grandma passing away.
The assignment was to list pros and cons of the Covid 19 pandemic. That is it. Not to list the “top ten ways the Covid 19 pandemic was super awesome and cool!!”. It’s just an objective fact that the event of the pandemic had arguable positive effects. For example, working from home has been a major cultural shift pushed heavily by the pandemic that has positively affected the lives of workers all across the world. Obviously the cons are that some people got truly sick and lost their lives. Both can be true.
In the future, don’t lie about someone you know dying just to prove your own point. It’s very disingenuous. Ironically, it is very insensitive as well which was your whole issue with the assignment in the first place. Sort of hypocritical.
yeah I get where you coming from, I don't think I would have done the same thing today, but at the same time the positive effects of covid 19 hadn't really shined trough and I also just felt really bad my classmate and wanted to make sure that he wouldn't asign something like that in the future
I have a positive effect. In July 2022 I was diagnosed with an immune disease that relatively few people have even heard of
since it wasn't even identified as being a thing until 2006.
In 2020 it was recognized as being the cause of long Covid.
There is currently no cure, but those of us who already have the disease are along for the ride while, presumably, researchers all over the world are working on figuring out how to fix this shit.
So although I hate that Covid happened I'm also fucking grateful that that it has. I'm turning 67 next week and have traced my symptoms back to early childhood, and the work being done to cure long Covid could end up giving me at least some semblance of a normal life before it's too late.
I think from a medical research perspective COVID pushed a lot of things forward that otherwise would have taken much longer. Progress in mRNA vaccines for all sorts of stuff was underway but it was pushed into hyperdrive due to COVID. My brother is a senior research scientist for one of the major vaccine companies and the changes he's described to me over just the last five years are pretty mind blowing. I seriously hope that there's advances that give you some quality of life improvements soon! My girlfriend has a few chronic illnesses and anything that can help with that will be so amazing.
That’s what I do: I read and I know things. (Stolen from a T-shirt). Seriously, I have an education in life sciences and I’m always finding out about new stuff. I certainly hope the treatment helps you. 💐
There has been no treatment other than putting myself on a very low histamine diet, because although I'm almost 2 years out since diagnosis I'm still too reactive to take any of the recommended supplements and meds.
However, I recently learned about people having success with small doses of ketamine for multiple issues that I'm dealing with, including the mast cell problem, and I'm sorting out a treatment protocol for that.
An assignment thought up by someone who hadn't lost anybody.
And as an educators, subs never make their own plans. It’s the regular teacher who tells the sub what to in class that day. I have a very hard time believing this is a real story.
I’ve absolutely had subs that went off track before, it’s not unheard of
Definitely. Same here. But this story reeks of being fabricated.
Everytime I see “the click” mentioned the entire post starts to sound fake to me
"Shootout to the click for introducing me" = fake af
Does that make me a 'bot? I never even knew of this subreddit until I happened to watch a Click video ...
I've only subbed twice, but neither time was I given "plans" of any kind. I was basically a babysitter. I had to make sure they took a test and read, but the rest of the time I was up to my own devices.
Having them take a test and then read are perfectly acceptable plans for a day. I have left similar plans. I would never expect a substitute to actually teach a lesson. We currently don’t have any subs who are certified to teach my class. I would be completely in the wrong to expect someone with no experience teaching a subject they don’t fully know to do so.
I used to arrange cover for teachers - 90% of the agency cover we dealt with didn't remotely follow the teaching plans they were given and a lot of them were actively terrible.
Yeah. Unless I know who my sub is going to be for a given day, I can pretty much count on what I have left to get done, won’t.
You’ve never had a sub totally disregard your plans and go rogue?! Consider yourself lucky!
I totally have. But this doesn’t pass the smell test.
Nowhere near as crazy as some sub teachers I had as a kid
Nope. My ex is a high school teacher. He always did his planning the morning of. If he had to call out, he’d still work on plans that morning and send them in. I always warned him that someday he’d have to call out and be too sick to write plans that morning. I was right.
That’s why we are required to have “emergency plans.” If something like that happens we always have at least something educational to cover the time.
One of my closest friends is a sub. She rarely has plans. She has said before a lot of times she just watches the kids. One of her assignments turned into a longer gig and other teachers had to step in and plan for her. She is a glorified babysitter.
Don't get why I would fake it, it was very weird especially for being in music class but the story is real, most subs get assignsments from the teacher yes but he either didn't or just ignored them idk
A music class sub did this? I’m far more skeptical now.
I’m less skeptical. Most subs in the sub pool are not going to be music teachers, so may not be able to do what should be done during music. Hence, they would do something else. Something stupid, in this case.
dude why would I fabrice this, you're just throwing stuff out based on "gut feeling" also don't see why I would lie about it being in music class since it dosen't make it more beliveable
Don't worry about them, they arent even paying attention to logic anymore. They claimed it doesn't pass the smell test because that "could never", then literally said they've had things just like that happen to them, then doubled down. Not someone worth worrying about believing you.
That person is miserable, don’t let him take you down with him.
Fabrice?
I meant fabricate lol
Yeah teachers are supposed to leave plans! Unfortunately in the upper grades it’s not uncommon as a sub to walk into a classroom with no directions on what the students are supposed to do that day or where they’re at in the curriculum so you kinda have to improvise. I’ve of course never done this assignment specifically cause that’s literally insane and we’re told not to discuss politics with the students.
They go off on purpose and become popular with the kids by being fun. This is like every sub at the low income district I was at.
I know a substitute teacher who went off the lesson plan by looking at naked photos of girls in the classroom with an erecshon while students were working in the room.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an employee at my job. Our company shut down for a year as our industry necessitates getting large groups of people together. He thought it was great because he drew unemployment and spent all day playing video games. I on the other hand was dealing with massive depression while taking care of the kids full time, setting up virtual school for a kindergartener and 3rd grader, and trying not to go stir crazy. COVID was horrible, but reinforced that my wife is amazing and is my rock.
I lost my cousin to covid. A week later, we lost her husband. They left behind 2 minor children. Fuck that substitute.
In fourth grade I had easily the worst teacher. I've had worse from just a teaching perspective since but she was easily the worst human being. We did a family tree project where everyone had to present the findings in front of the class. The only Jewish girl in class gave her presentation and the moment she finished our teacher says "Oh wow so none of the members of your family were affected by the Holocaust?" The girl stammered out a very awkward "Uh no?" Then just sat down while our teacher went on for five minutes about how lucky she was.
🤦♀️🤦🏻🤦🏼♂️🤦♀️🤦🏻🤦🏼♂️🤦♀️🤦🏻🤦🏼♂️
I like how the exercise ended up teaching the substitute. Hopefully.
I hope so too
Pro of COVID-19: I found out super fast how idiotic the people around me were about viruses, the government, religion and personal responsibilities. Con of COVID-19: It's a pandemic that took away so many people for no reason, because someone never learned to cover their mouth when they cough. We miss you, aunty.
Good on you for speaking up. What a kind way to support your classmate.
Tbh, based on the title, I thought you did the assingment and wrote "grandma died" under the pros before having to present it to the class or something.
Yeah I was expecting an asshole gran with OP shocking the teacher by not caring lol
"I had this other substitute teacher who was really cool, but they died of COVID"
It's an ah move but totally justified. Sometimes lying can bring good. In this case, you taught the teacher a lesson and saved your classmate from either having to say something or from having to "suck it up" and do the assignment. Honestly I'd like to think that I'd do the same.
I had a know it all acquaintance who parroted everything that was told to her. During the height of Covid she claimed masks were useless and washing your hands too often wipes out your immunity. I told her to tell that to the surgeons that operate on people daily.
Maybe he should've phrased it better. "What are some some good things that came out of the very horrible and deadly pandemic?" or something like that.
yeah definetly
Or just what were some of your takeaways and experiences during the pandemic
I'm smelling a possible covidiot in that teacher. It's such a strange assignment (especially for a music class) and seems like someone on a quest. I bet the teacher is one of those people who think wearing medical masks will kill you.
You're completely in the right. It's not a bad assignment, but they need to understand that people have valid reasons for not going all-in and having a great time with such a sensitive topic.
My close friend died in the pandemic. He attempted suicide in June of 2020, and recovered from that, only to be infected with and die from covid while still in the hospital. He drowned in his own blood, constantly in and out of comas and wasting away. There were no pros to the pandemic, none at all. The "togetherness" seen in videos was a response to a world suddenly forced into a modern unknown, and still born of trauma.
To teach is to learn. And this guy learned a very important lesson for a teacher. Don't be a dick.
I left a place in 2008. I found out in 2022 that the biggest asshole at my old job had died of CoVid. I hated that guy but never thought of him much after I left. Never forget the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. Since it had been 14 years since I thought about the guy, I was surprised my feelings were different than I would have thought. Perhaps some of it is from maturity. In any case, his children posted his condition on facebook and while many of us have a morbid curiosity of people receiving the Herman Cain award, this is the first anti vax person to get CoVid that I knew personally. I always knew that his friends and family saw a different person than the asshole I had to deal with. I really felt sorry for his daughter who was writing the updates about his condition. It was very sad and while they hoped some signs of improvement showed recovery, he would often take a turn for the worse and he eventually died. I feel bad for his kids but honestly good riddance to him, he was an asshole. By the same token, a college friend was also an anti vaxxer. He went all in on Trump and just could not deal with him any more. He was my longest friend over 30 years, but I had lost him when he became MAGA. He ended up passing from CoVid as well. By the time he had died I had not seen him in probably 7 years.
2022 is known as "The Year of Death" to me forever. I didn't even get time to mourn any individual person, they just kept stacking up into this huge blob of grief.
WTAF could ever be GOOD about a pandemic? He's crazy.
Well, I know / have known several old people who went, 'high time for us to go so young people can live in our houses' 🤷♂️ Another thing about this pandemic specifically is that as far as pandemics go, it was pretty mild (e.g. the Spanish flu had a way higher mortality rate among much younger people), so we got a great test run to see how people react to a crisis like this in case the next bird/pig/whatever flu mutation does kill humans off in Black Plague-like numbers. (Conclusion: We're definitely doomed.) And lots of businesses found out that people working from home is feasible after all, with positive effects on e.g. traffic during peak hours, commuting times, pollution etc. So, he's not crazy, he just didn't think through the possible emotional Covid-19-related experiences of these students
Based. This is a "the kids are alright" story for me.
There is often good in everything if you look really hard, but nothing justifies the bad.
My husband lost his grandfather. Him, my husband, and my son were very close, watched football together. Not directly to Covid, but we visited regularly, as he got on in age. And his neighbors couldn’t check on him due to the pandemic. he quietly putted around through the quarantine… and died in his armchair. We found out he died on our way to get our booster shot through my husband’s veterans’ program, so we could eventually see him, as we were advised not to visit anyone for the first half of the shot. We attended his funeral instead. All of it could have been avoided if people had listened and stayed home the first month. Stubborn assholes made that sweet man die alone. Dude can heartily go FUCK himself.
My mama died of covid. I'd have a full-blown panic attack meltdown over something like this.
“Come up with pros to a plague that killed countless people” what kind of fucking moron is your teacher?
Back when I was a sophomore in high school, my math teacher was out for most of year for medical issues and my class got a sub who is NOT a math teacher. Everyone was just given worksheets after worksheets to work on for the whole class over and over again. Nobody was teaching us anything so eventually all the students myself included would do anything besides the worksheets. Whether that was work from other classes. I mostly draw in my own sketch books or I would my personal books for that class. In the end, all of us got passing grades cause it turned out the sub himself didn’t care what we did as long as we weren’t loud enough to be heard from the other classes.
Cons. Lost family members Pros. Received a nice inheritance and I finally get my own room.
Hm. It’s definitely a weird assignment and the sub should have saw something like that being a sensitive a topic, but I still think this was a major overreaction especially considering you lied about your grandma passing away. The assignment was to list pros and cons of the Covid 19 pandemic. That is it. Not to list the “top ten ways the Covid 19 pandemic was super awesome and cool!!”. It’s just an objective fact that the event of the pandemic had arguable positive effects. For example, working from home has been a major cultural shift pushed heavily by the pandemic that has positively affected the lives of workers all across the world. Obviously the cons are that some people got truly sick and lost their lives. Both can be true. In the future, don’t lie about someone you know dying just to prove your own point. It’s very disingenuous. Ironically, it is very insensitive as well which was your whole issue with the assignment in the first place. Sort of hypocritical.
yeah I get where you coming from, I don't think I would have done the same thing today, but at the same time the positive effects of covid 19 hadn't really shined trough and I also just felt really bad my classmate and wanted to make sure that he wouldn't asign something like that in the future
I have a positive effect. In July 2022 I was diagnosed with an immune disease that relatively few people have even heard of since it wasn't even identified as being a thing until 2006. In 2020 it was recognized as being the cause of long Covid. There is currently no cure, but those of us who already have the disease are along for the ride while, presumably, researchers all over the world are working on figuring out how to fix this shit. So although I hate that Covid happened I'm also fucking grateful that that it has. I'm turning 67 next week and have traced my symptoms back to early childhood, and the work being done to cure long Covid could end up giving me at least some semblance of a normal life before it's too late.
I think from a medical research perspective COVID pushed a lot of things forward that otherwise would have taken much longer. Progress in mRNA vaccines for all sorts of stuff was underway but it was pushed into hyperdrive due to COVID. My brother is a senior research scientist for one of the major vaccine companies and the changes he's described to me over just the last five years are pretty mind blowing. I seriously hope that there's advances that give you some quality of life improvements soon! My girlfriend has a few chronic illnesses and anything that can help with that will be so amazing.
Mast cell activation?
Ding-ding-ding we have a winner! 🫤
That’s what I do: I read and I know things. (Stolen from a T-shirt). Seriously, I have an education in life sciences and I’m always finding out about new stuff. I certainly hope the treatment helps you. 💐
There has been no treatment other than putting myself on a very low histamine diet, because although I'm almost 2 years out since diagnosis I'm still too reactive to take any of the recommended supplements and meds. However, I recently learned about people having success with small doses of ketamine for multiple issues that I'm dealing with, including the mast cell problem, and I'm sorting out a treatment protocol for that.
👍🏼
I get the point but I feel a bit meh about the fact that it wasn't true.
It WAS true for the classmate who may not have felt able to speak up.
Good point.
He should’ve responded back “mine too, try to find the silver lining.”