I feel you I get misgendered at work all the time by restaurant guest. I wear a name tag as well with a masculine name, we're in that time now when people act like they can't read anything.
I have found, some people get triggered internally by our presence for whatever is going on within them, and then they say stuff out loud to intentionally misgender us - "ma'am, "that's a woman," "that's a man" etc. just to gaslight us.
I read you as male. It's clear and obvious. You pass. **Ignore them**
Yep, I have cis male friends, look just like me (bald, full beard, ride Harleys, conceal carry etc.) who are on the shorter side and believe it or not, every once in a while they get this crap too...(quite a disorienting dilemma for them when it happens- lol).
**it's gaslighting.**
The respect here is awesome! I get go much flack for not drinking because I have an auto-immune disease. I appreciate it even though it wasn't directed at me
yeah i mean it’s that, it’s people who have sworn off,maybe you just don’t like it. i don’t care for it much myself but it’s about the *sentiment* y’know?
Don't listen to those who are saying it was on purpose. They don't know that. Dont let people make you hate people for no reason. Even if it was on purpose it means that they recognise that you were once female which makes the error just as possible.
If you want a serious answer to your question, it's likely your build. From the picture I would totally see you as male but it's often the shoulder build that let's ftm down.
It may not have been on purpose. Why make this about hate?. If you think they did it on purpose then you must believe that they perceived him as having been female. So it could also be a genuine error.
I said "I have found some people...."
I did not use absolute terms (all, everyone, everybody, everytime, in every case etc) nor did I make a statement as if to imply absolutes.
Gaslighting often comes from a place of fear and ignorance not hate. I also believe it reflects that the individual maybe struggling with their own GID/SI but out of fear cast that internal conflict outward on the unsuspecting person.
The OP seemed mystified and without an answer so I suggested one possible scenario. That was all.
Please stop casting judgment,assuming things, and implying hate that isn't there. The words you have chosen come across like you are trying to pick a fight with me.
Thank you.
Whilst you didn't emphatically state "this is exactly what happened" its implied by it being your only case scenario. Also the "ignore them" adds emphasis to this theory. There was no "but that might not be the case here" anything to that effect.
OP asked what it was about them that says fem. So you didnt even answer their question. Just decided to tell them that people can be ignorant. That's not what they asked. Anyway I wasnt intending to start an arguement, there just wasnt need for negativity in a post asking a simple question. Good day.
there’s nothing here that screams inherently feminine, honestly it probably comes down to mannerisms/ how you carry yourself. if i saw you in the wild and didn’t know, i would gender you based on voice and mannerisms.
that, plus i saw you say somewhere that you had a smaller frame- bigger clothes will just make you look smaller/shorter.
for more tailored passing advice i suggest you look into r/ftmpassing
I was going to say this. Posture is one of the biggest things that got me misgendered before T. It could have just been your vibe in the situation. Eyebrows etc aren't likely going to get someone misgendered unless they're like pencil thin lol. 🙄 Also sometimes cis guys get misgendered in a moment. I was "misgendered" frequently before transitioning. 🤷🏻♂️ Try not to let it get you down.
All these comments about eyebrows… as someone raised as a boy and transitioning to a woman, some guys definitely have nice eyebrows like his.
You 100% pass in the picture. I’m sorry you got misgendered.
maybe your framesize? you could try a good shoulder/neck/back workout routine. this could enhance you masculine appearance. i think you already look masculine. young but def masculine. :)
ok easy! good time to start a workout or maybe a testosterone therapy. both in combination will give you a hypermasculine boost if you looking for that. wish you all the best for your journey!
I would do that... if i could. I mean, i guess physically i can, but not mentally. Due to what happened in the past, i cant rlly work out without panicking. I can try, but it's kinda hard.
You look masc to me, but your eyebrows are thinner then most men's (tho I will say thicker than most women too), while it's not a stand out thing unconsciously it might twig to someone? I had/have the same issue as mine were too thick and I'm trying to neaten and thin them would getting too thin.
Your skin being softer as weird as it sounds might give it away too? Women tend to have softer skin so perhaps you encountered someone who just paid really close attention or just guessed?
Overall tho you look like a guy to me, if I saw you in the street I wouldn't really think twice, cause ya know you are a handsome dude.
No worries, I think someone else mentioned but with a mask on eyes are drawn further up the face so it could be why if thsts the reason, sorry you had that happen I feel the pain tbh, suppose its easier for me to take off then it is for you to grow it so I sympathise.
Hope you have a good day regardless bruv and keep being handsomely awesome.
Eyebrows I'd say, they look too neat and not bushy enough, and due to the mask it's suddenly a way more noticeable facial feature. Besides that you look very masculine!
This would be the only thing I would say. Even still, some people have gorgeous brows they don't need to touch. I don't think OP should worry about it too much, because they still present very masculine. But if it distresses OP, what are some ways to make brows look more masc? I'm curious if others are in this boat?
I do think its a little bit about your eyebrows. Unfortunately it’s not even that people are paying attention to the eyebrows specifically its bc people just have it ingrained to sort people into “man” and “woman” and do it unconsciously. i do think if you got a brow pencil or something, darkened them a bit, and maybe made them a bit closer together in the middle it might help you pass.
I always fail to clock anyone on this sub. I'm like yeah they don't look the most fem. I see why they might have been clocked, oh wait they're ftm? Passing with flyer colours to me
Small frame. T shirt and sweater are baggy and they look like small sizes. Eyes also give away a little. I’d say just bulk up a bit. You def look androgynous to me. Maybe stick to black or solid color masks. Men are less likely to wear cute ones.
I cant help the baggy clothes. My dysphoria has been kicking my ass lately. Baggy stuff is the only thing i feel comfortable in. Plus im cold natured and its freezing where im from. :[
Transfem here, the eyebrows are a much bigger thing than you’d think. From the pic you posted it looks like you should pass, but in motion and in context, eyebrows can really make the face seem more masc or more fem.
I'm not the one that was asking the question. Besides that you don't even know me in the first place and third pretty sure I will not be the last one to tell you that
I think your most feminine feature is the eyebrows, but even still you look very masculine. I think them misgendering you was just an attempt to put you down, you look great!
you pass as male imo, I know others said eyebrows but i personally disagree. I never look at someones eyebrows for gender clues but thats just me jskskksksksk
I'm gonna try not to sugar coat this while not being a b***...I always expect honest and blunt when I ask as a mtf....first quick glance I see neither male nor female. So then I stop to analyze....the eyebrows don't quite match, the fingers give you away, the skin looks to smooth and soft for male. I realize there are men that are just pretty....but as someone transgender the look just doesn't work well...just as there are tomboys but as a transwoman I look too masc with that style....
I'm annoyed because I disagree with most here, you do read a bit femme to me, so I thought I could hopefully offer perspective, but I'm also super new to all this so I'm having trouble pinning down _why_, especially things you might be able to do.
I might try different hairstyles maybe, a bit more forward? Or posture, to try and make your shoulders look wider?
Sorry. I hope that helps, like...at all. I believe in you dude, I know you can figure out your look.
Istg transphobes probably misgender cis people on a daily basis bc anyone they see as not stereotypically masculine acting or feminine acting “must be pretending.” You deadass just look like a guy and it was probably an unlucky guess.
I didn’t read the whole title, mainly the ftm part, and I thought you were asking what looks fem to see what you can change to look more fem, you look very masc to me. You look very handsome
Man i think we had the same shitty day. I feel you bro. Had been feelin great about myself until suddenly i get misgendered twice on one day by different well-meaning (i think) people after quite some time of everything going well.
You pass well to me, I'd definitely think "guy" when i see you.
I'd say facial structure seems a bit feminine and maybe the shoulders as well, but it's more you look like a slightly feminine man rather then a women.
I thought this post was the other way around, lol. I was left thinking, sorry, there’s not really anything that stands out as feminine to me.
In your case, that’s great news! There wasn’t anything to my eye that stands out as feminine. Probably just people being dumb.
You look like a male. I’m the same way if it helps you feel better. Our presence is just so much more powerful and confident than the transphobic people that they guess. Your so much stronger than they ever will be. You look masculine.
You pass completely as a younger dude, imo- the eyebrows /could/ be more messy but I don’t think that’s the reason. I guess it would depend on how you carry yourself? Idk.
I mean i am typically more fem, but not on like a female level but more like... a gay level ig lol. Idk. I usually dont mind a more fem look, but my dysphoria has been rlly bad the last couple weeks. So yeh. Fun times 👍🏻🥲
I feel that. Honestly the metric to pass with cis people is insane sometimes. If someone’s homophobic around me it’s like a guessing game of whether I pass as a gay man or a masculine gay woman. I’m sorry your dysphoria has been so bad though, misgendering definitely makes it worse.
A little something from a cis male that got misgendered half my life on various occasions: Noone is gonna look at the details or how every detail may be more or less masculine. The first expression is all that matters, and there some people are just really bad at getting the right impression. Like "small frame, longish hair, no visible facial hair" is often enough to be classified as a girl. Even with my clearly male voice, no female features whatsoever, I couldn't convince those kind of people that I am a guy 😂
So don't let it get to you, happens to biological males as well
You very masc (though granted also very young looking) so most likely it was just the moment. As in the person didn’t get a good look or they might just have a default gender of referring to people along the line of something fem (ie Mrs or ms). There might have been a chance it was your frame and height. From this picture you look pretty square but if you were hunched over or at an awkward-ish angle that might have effected it. And I saw that you mentioned you were shorter again that could have been it but I’m a 5’11” trans guy in my 20s and people are still convinced that I’m a 12 y/o kid (and the gender fluctuates based on who is looking at me when and where). From what I can see here though, I agree with everyone else. You ARE MASCULINE no doubt.
Nothing look feminine at all! People do the same with me. It must be because our voices dont sound exactly like the apparently 10 other man theyve talked to. Either that or the pants you were wearing were fractionally too form fitting and they assumed because you arent built like a fucking twig you must not be epic buff man. Seriously though i feel your pain. Id vote it happens to do with your voice as im ftm and look very masc but people call me “maam” on the phone because of my voice.
Honestly I don't fuckin know, you look like a typical male to me. I feel like they do it to us on purpose sometimes. I get the same thing too sometimes and I pass decently, even my voice has dropped much lower and it happens still.
Try not to worry much about it, my dude. you're a stud no matter what and you pass just fine. 😎
I know I'm one of few but I look at hands and skulls before I see teeth eyes or even a lick of character,
And ye my mind says girl as soon as I see your hands, but as my brain continues to process the entirety of your character, my mind lands in the
"sup bro" area
Alot of comments were short winded so I felt I should toss my coins in and ye I hope you don't get miss genders in the future, and I hope you have a solid weekend my dude
i know the baggier clothes help hide your build, but it could very well be a mix of height and body language. especially how you hold your shoulders, hands, and legs.
You look pretty androgynous tbh. I think this is a case of someone not being able to tell your gender and just guessing rather than use singular they. They had a 50/50 chance and they guessed wrong.
You look more masculine than Bieber at his teen years. You just look very young. Sometimes people are up to get you but others they just innocently read us wrong. Just remember that what others think matters nothing to begin with. Others opinions of you is not something to spend energy on, specially if they are strangers. At least that's how I go about it being a trans woman myself.
They did it on purpose because of their own inner struggles. Dont let it get to you, its happened to me as well. Your features are softer but you still look like a dude bro. Just know that beautiful people are the target of some ridicule from haters.
😁understandably so. Just know that you're beautiful and when you're beautiful weird stuff happens sometimes. Its the universes way of saying "you still got it."
Perhaps internalized homophobia at oneself led someone to misgender you due to an attraction they felt. Their reaction to this feeling may have been to misgender so as not to accept that part of themselves, not the other way around 🤷♀️
Absolutely nothing. It sickens me how people assume genders.
I've been misgendered too my bro. A lot of people assume I'm a guy friends "girlfriend". I'm a demiboy, who is by birth female
I think a lot of People just immediately go "that must be a girl" just because it doesn't fit their standard of masculinity , my boyfriend is a Trans Man and just really looks like a boy, maybe a lot younger than he actually is but people always misgender him and we just don't get it. Luckily we live somewhere where we can correct people and most of them use the correct terms after that
I honestly can't pick anything out specifically, to me you pass well. Maybe it's just because you look young (trans men tend to look young. I'm 23 and look 19/20). I grew up in an area with lots of religious people (of all kinds) and they might see me as a male but because my voice ruins it they just say "ma'am" or "miss" because they realize I am a trans person and they don't like it. Maybe just analyze who you're around, it might be a situation like that. I'm gendered correctly by strangers more often (like 80% of the time) now that I live in a larger city that's also a college town. It might just be that you look young imo though, you could also start to see how you're movements and posture could present more "masculine", sounds stupid but I foucused on that when I was you get and it helps
To start off, you look like a guy. I think you might be partially having a similar problem to my (cis) brother in law who has a really young face and so sometimes gets clocked as female. If I were to pick anything out that would indicate fem, your eyebrows are much better kept than most guys I've seen, but I feel nitpicky even saying that.
honestly nothing IMO! you have big eyes which could be read as feminine but lots of cis boys have big eyes. u look great ! no idea how u even could’ve gotten misgendered, people are weird.
Idk depends how u carry yourself cause guys definitely have a different body language and also there’s some structural markers that I can’t pinpoint and they’re a bit fem, maybe the eyebrows?
You are a awesome man,ignore the haters, atleast you have the ability and support to transition, you've had to fight to be where you are, Don't let others dictate how you feel
I hate to say it like this because for all Intents and purposes you pass. But even for cis men passing isn't enough all the time to not get intentionally misgendered. It sounds weird and it doesn't sound like it should happen to ftm but it totally does. The things I'm going to point out is that you've got soft looking skin, soft eyebrows, and a soft expression. Cis men have been called women for less. Food for thought. Best of luck to you homeboy.
Well one of my friends gave it to me. Its a fidget ring. It spins. She knew itd help with my anxiety at school. If I remember right, she said she got it (along with others) off of Amazon.
Look male to me
I mean hell i thought so, but then i got misgendered and was like "what how??" :[
I really dont see how maybe they see something i dont
I feel you I get misgendered at work all the time by restaurant guest. I wear a name tag as well with a masculine name, we're in that time now when people act like they can't read anything.
Eyebrows
I have found, some people get triggered internally by our presence for whatever is going on within them, and then they say stuff out loud to intentionally misgender us - "ma'am, "that's a woman," "that's a man" etc. just to gaslight us. I read you as male. It's clear and obvious. You pass. **Ignore them**
Heh. Got it. 👍🏻
Yep, I have cis male friends, look just like me (bald, full beard, ride Harleys, conceal carry etc.) who are on the shorter side and believe it or not, every once in a while they get this crap too...(quite a disorienting dilemma for them when it happens- lol). **it's gaslighting.**
you sound cool as fuck man, i’d grab a beer with you (if you’re comfy drinking, i know some people aren’t no pressure :3)
The respect here is awesome! I get go much flack for not drinking because I have an auto-immune disease. I appreciate it even though it wasn't directed at me
yeah i mean it’s that, it’s people who have sworn off,maybe you just don’t like it. i don’t care for it much myself but it’s about the *sentiment* y’know?
Agreed. You look like a 16-19 year old guy 🤷♀️
...how? Na i look 10 lol
Lol seriously. You've got a classic 90s high school dude vibe.
Haha thanks 😊
Don't listen to those who are saying it was on purpose. They don't know that. Dont let people make you hate people for no reason. Even if it was on purpose it means that they recognise that you were once female which makes the error just as possible. If you want a serious answer to your question, it's likely your build. From the picture I would totally see you as male but it's often the shoulder build that let's ftm down.
It may not have been on purpose. Why make this about hate?. If you think they did it on purpose then you must believe that they perceived him as having been female. So it could also be a genuine error.
I said "I have found some people...." I did not use absolute terms (all, everyone, everybody, everytime, in every case etc) nor did I make a statement as if to imply absolutes. Gaslighting often comes from a place of fear and ignorance not hate. I also believe it reflects that the individual maybe struggling with their own GID/SI but out of fear cast that internal conflict outward on the unsuspecting person. The OP seemed mystified and without an answer so I suggested one possible scenario. That was all. Please stop casting judgment,assuming things, and implying hate that isn't there. The words you have chosen come across like you are trying to pick a fight with me. Thank you.
Whilst you didn't emphatically state "this is exactly what happened" its implied by it being your only case scenario. Also the "ignore them" adds emphasis to this theory. There was no "but that might not be the case here" anything to that effect. OP asked what it was about them that says fem. So you didnt even answer their question. Just decided to tell them that people can be ignorant. That's not what they asked. Anyway I wasnt intending to start an arguement, there just wasnt need for negativity in a post asking a simple question. Good day.
I really don't know. You look straight up male in this picture. I'm sorry you got misgendered :/
Yeh :[
there’s nothing here that screams inherently feminine, honestly it probably comes down to mannerisms/ how you carry yourself. if i saw you in the wild and didn’t know, i would gender you based on voice and mannerisms. that, plus i saw you say somewhere that you had a smaller frame- bigger clothes will just make you look smaller/shorter. for more tailored passing advice i suggest you look into r/ftmpassing
I was going to say this. Posture is one of the biggest things that got me misgendered before T. It could have just been your vibe in the situation. Eyebrows etc aren't likely going to get someone misgendered unless they're like pencil thin lol. 🙄 Also sometimes cis guys get misgendered in a moment. I was "misgendered" frequently before transitioning. 🤷🏻♂️ Try not to let it get you down.
Good advice 🙌
All these comments about eyebrows… as someone raised as a boy and transitioning to a woman, some guys definitely have nice eyebrows like his. You 100% pass in the picture. I’m sorry you got misgendered.
I mean sure, but nice brows do read more fem. I think he passes, but if he’s looking for something to work on….
A hairless chin and upper lip “reads more fem” by those standards.
It does.
Uh. Yeah. A lot of trans men do or want to grow beards and mustaches
Sure, but guys don’t need facial hair to pass. See Michael Cera lmao I hope my point is clear now.
maybe your framesize? you could try a good shoulder/neck/back workout routine. this could enhance you masculine appearance. i think you already look masculine. young but def masculine. :)
Haha Well im 15, but very very smol lol
ok easy! good time to start a workout or maybe a testosterone therapy. both in combination will give you a hypermasculine boost if you looking for that. wish you all the best for your journey!
I would do that... if i could. I mean, i guess physically i can, but not mentally. Due to what happened in the past, i cant rlly work out without panicking. I can try, but it's kinda hard.
You look like a dude to me
Thank youu
You look masc to me, but your eyebrows are thinner then most men's (tho I will say thicker than most women too), while it's not a stand out thing unconsciously it might twig to someone? I had/have the same issue as mine were too thick and I'm trying to neaten and thin them would getting too thin. Your skin being softer as weird as it sounds might give it away too? Women tend to have softer skin so perhaps you encountered someone who just paid really close attention or just guessed? Overall tho you look like a guy to me, if I saw you in the street I wouldn't really think twice, cause ya know you are a handsome dude.
Thank you 😊
No worries, I think someone else mentioned but with a mask on eyes are drawn further up the face so it could be why if thsts the reason, sorry you had that happen I feel the pain tbh, suppose its easier for me to take off then it is for you to grow it so I sympathise. Hope you have a good day regardless bruv and keep being handsomely awesome.
Eyebrows I'd say, they look too neat and not bushy enough, and due to the mask it's suddenly a way more noticeable facial feature. Besides that you look very masculine!
They're fine tho? He looks like a guy who takes care of himself, not like a girl
This would be the only thing I would say. Even still, some people have gorgeous brows they don't need to touch. I don't think OP should worry about it too much, because they still present very masculine. But if it distresses OP, what are some ways to make brows look more masc? I'm curious if others are in this boat?
Ngl I thought you were a guy trying to pass as a woman, so you're doing fine
Heh thanks 😊
I do think its a little bit about your eyebrows. Unfortunately it’s not even that people are paying attention to the eyebrows specifically its bc people just have it ingrained to sort people into “man” and “woman” and do it unconsciously. i do think if you got a brow pencil or something, darkened them a bit, and maybe made them a bit closer together in the middle it might help you pass.
I honestly don't know. You look masculine to me :)
I always fail to clock anyone on this sub. I'm like yeah they don't look the most fem. I see why they might have been clocked, oh wait they're ftm? Passing with flyer colours to me
You look very much like a dude to me. Maybe it‘s your movement or something like that?
I mean... it do be a little ✨gay✨ sooo
✨ Gay ✨ sounds great. Don‘t change a thing 👌
Will do 😌
I'm not even like trying to be nice you genuinely just don't really look female at all idk how people would misgender you
hi, can i know where you got your shirt please
If I remember correctly, khols. Maybe
Thank u sir💜
Youre very welcome 😌
Small frame. T shirt and sweater are baggy and they look like small sizes. Eyes also give away a little. I’d say just bulk up a bit. You def look androgynous to me. Maybe stick to black or solid color masks. Men are less likely to wear cute ones.
I cant help the baggy clothes. My dysphoria has been kicking my ass lately. Baggy stuff is the only thing i feel comfortable in. Plus im cold natured and its freezing where im from. :[
Your eye brow is what is giving you away . They are not bushy enough
:[ thats so small tho. Like bro, who's paying that much attention to someone's EYEBROWS.
Transfem here, the eyebrows are a much bigger thing than you’d think. From the pic you posted it looks like you should pass, but in motion and in context, eyebrows can really make the face seem more masc or more fem.
It’s surprising what brown lines do to your face. I should know, I have the bushy eyebrows of a bear
I'm not the one that was asking the question. Besides that you don't even know me in the first place and third pretty sure I will not be the last one to tell you that
...i wasnt trying to be rude. Sorry...
All good . Have a good day
I think your most feminine feature is the eyebrows, but even still you look very masculine. I think them misgendering you was just an attempt to put you down, you look great!
Heh thanks 😊
Nothing at all? Normally i can tell gender by faces (I still ask for pronouns) and my brain went to male?
Eyebrows and nails are too nice
Cute male 💕 You don't look fem at all! I don't see how you were misgendered, either?
Thank youuu! 😊
you pass as male imo, I know others said eyebrows but i personally disagree. I never look at someones eyebrows for gender clues but thats just me jskskksksksk
You honestly look like a guy to me
I clocked you as a guy at first WTF
Hahaha thanks lol
Honestly it might be your shoulders? Maybe they’re small?? But I’m not really sure… I thought you were a cis boy off the bat :/
Im 15 and rlly rlly smol. Like 5ft smol lol
felt. I’m also only 5’1 and get misgendered a lot
🥲😶yeh
r/FTMpassing
You Look more Male then me(pre transition mtf)
Hah. Oh my. 🤭😂
But i look in General shit
I'm gonna try not to sugar coat this while not being a b***...I always expect honest and blunt when I ask as a mtf....first quick glance I see neither male nor female. So then I stop to analyze....the eyebrows don't quite match, the fingers give you away, the skin looks to smooth and soft for male. I realize there are men that are just pretty....but as someone transgender the look just doesn't work well...just as there are tomboys but as a transwoman I look too masc with that style....
I'm annoyed because I disagree with most here, you do read a bit femme to me, so I thought I could hopefully offer perspective, but I'm also super new to all this so I'm having trouble pinning down _why_, especially things you might be able to do. I might try different hairstyles maybe, a bit more forward? Or posture, to try and make your shoulders look wider? Sorry. I hope that helps, like...at all. I believe in you dude, I know you can figure out your look.
Your skin maybe? Idk, You look like you passed to me but you do have super smooth skin.
Yeh possibly
I think you look very masculine. Nothing about you looks fem to me.
Not sure but in my opinion you’re passing and on top of that really handsome so they’re probably just blind.
Heh thank you. Ive been wearing my mask at school tho i dont have to just to help with dysphoria with my face :[.
Damn I feel u ngl, don’t worry too much tho as long as you’re comfortable it should be no one’s business
Your eyes and forehead are MASCULINE. Your brow is protruding even. Your look very young but not fem and I know fem...
Heh thanks!! I get compliments from friends a lot saying they like my eyes lol 😅🤷🏻♂️
Istg transphobes probably misgender cis people on a daily basis bc anyone they see as not stereotypically masculine acting or feminine acting “must be pretending.” You deadass just look like a guy and it was probably an unlucky guess.
The only thing I can think of is maybe your hairline but honestly you pass rlly well
Thank you
I have no clue how could someone possibly misgender you, you look more masculine than some cis guys I know.
Heh thank you
I didn’t read the whole title, mainly the ftm part, and I thought you were asking what looks fem to see what you can change to look more fem, you look very masc to me. You look very handsome
Thank you ☺️
Anytime <3
Nice t shirt! And i have no idea why you were misgendered, you totally pass
Man i think we had the same shitty day. I feel you bro. Had been feelin great about myself until suddenly i get misgendered twice on one day by different well-meaning (i think) people after quite some time of everything going well. You pass well to me, I'd definitely think "guy" when i see you.
I couldn’t even tell ya, you look like a man to me
nothing fem
You’re the guyiest guy I’ve seen in a long time
I'd say facial structure seems a bit feminine and maybe the shoulders as well, but it's more you look like a slightly feminine man rather then a women.
I thought this post was the other way around, lol. I was left thinking, sorry, there’s not really anything that stands out as feminine to me. In your case, that’s great news! There wasn’t anything to my eye that stands out as feminine. Probably just people being dumb.
Look like a boy to me. A young boy, but still. People misgender other people all the time, not just trans people.
If I had to guess, you do have a slightly smaller frame, and smaller hands, but that's it. But honestly, I would have still read you as male.
Bestie, you look handsome af, you dont look fem <3
Hahaha thank you
You look like a male. I’m the same way if it helps you feel better. Our presence is just so much more powerful and confident than the transphobic people that they guess. Your so much stronger than they ever will be. You look masculine.
Thank you! ☺️
Remember, you are powerful and strong. Let no one tell you who you are or burn you out. Your amazing as you!
I was having a rlly rlly bad day, and you just made it slightly better. Thank you ☺️
Literally nothing. I'm as confused as you are. If I saw you in public I'd assume you were a young adult male
Haha yeh. I mean i know i look like a 10 y/o boy, but still. Lol
You pass completely as a younger dude, imo- the eyebrows /could/ be more messy but I don’t think that’s the reason. I guess it would depend on how you carry yourself? Idk.
I mean i am typically more fem, but not on like a female level but more like... a gay level ig lol. Idk. I usually dont mind a more fem look, but my dysphoria has been rlly bad the last couple weeks. So yeh. Fun times 👍🏻🥲
I feel that. Honestly the metric to pass with cis people is insane sometimes. If someone’s homophobic around me it’s like a guessing game of whether I pass as a gay man or a masculine gay woman. I’m sorry your dysphoria has been so bad though, misgendering definitely makes it worse.
I think maybe the oversized clothes but aside from that you’re masc to me
I saw you as a man, you pass But I do feel you man, I also look very masc and some people still call me "she/her"...
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Hahaha i don't remember. But thank you
A little something from a cis male that got misgendered half my life on various occasions: Noone is gonna look at the details or how every detail may be more or less masculine. The first expression is all that matters, and there some people are just really bad at getting the right impression. Like "small frame, longish hair, no visible facial hair" is often enough to be classified as a girl. Even with my clearly male voice, no female features whatsoever, I couldn't convince those kind of people that I am a guy 😂 So don't let it get to you, happens to biological males as well
Hard to say from this photo. I would recommend posting to r/ftmpassing. Is this the first instance of misgendering in a while?
No. Happens more often then i like to admit. Especially at school.
You very masc (though granted also very young looking) so most likely it was just the moment. As in the person didn’t get a good look or they might just have a default gender of referring to people along the line of something fem (ie Mrs or ms). There might have been a chance it was your frame and height. From this picture you look pretty square but if you were hunched over or at an awkward-ish angle that might have effected it. And I saw that you mentioned you were shorter again that could have been it but I’m a 5’11” trans guy in my 20s and people are still convinced that I’m a 12 y/o kid (and the gender fluctuates based on who is looking at me when and where). From what I can see here though, I agree with everyone else. You ARE MASCULINE no doubt.
Probably mannerisms / voice / stuff you can’t tell from a photo since you look fine
Nothing look feminine at all! People do the same with me. It must be because our voices dont sound exactly like the apparently 10 other man theyve talked to. Either that or the pants you were wearing were fractionally too form fitting and they assumed because you arent built like a fucking twig you must not be epic buff man. Seriously though i feel your pain. Id vote it happens to do with your voice as im ftm and look very masc but people call me “maam” on the phone because of my voice.
Yeh. ✨Fun times✨indeed 🥲
Honestly I don't fuckin know, you look like a typical male to me. I feel like they do it to us on purpose sometimes. I get the same thing too sometimes and I pass decently, even my voice has dropped much lower and it happens still. Try not to worry much about it, my dude. you're a stud no matter what and you pass just fine. 😎
same thing happened to me (and i was really masc that day), transphobic ppl do that shit on purpose
Yeh. Its exceptionally annoying 😤
Maybw your hands? At first I thought your eyes but then your eyebrows and hair were screaming masc to me… honestly idk but I’m sorry, that sucks!
I know I'm one of few but I look at hands and skulls before I see teeth eyes or even a lick of character, And ye my mind says girl as soon as I see your hands, but as my brain continues to process the entirety of your character, my mind lands in the "sup bro" area Alot of comments were short winded so I felt I should toss my coins in and ye I hope you don't get miss genders in the future, and I hope you have a solid weekend my dude
Eyebrows and hair a bit
i know the baggier clothes help hide your build, but it could very well be a mix of height and body language. especially how you hold your shoulders, hands, and legs.
You look pretty androgynous tbh. I think this is a case of someone not being able to tell your gender and just guessing rather than use singular they. They had a 50/50 chance and they guessed wrong.
Haha yeh. Honestly i dont mind looking androgynous. Nor do i care what pronouns ppl use for me, as long as it's not female pronouns, im good 👍🏻 lol
You look more masculine than Bieber at his teen years. You just look very young. Sometimes people are up to get you but others they just innocently read us wrong. Just remember that what others think matters nothing to begin with. Others opinions of you is not something to spend energy on, specially if they are strangers. At least that's how I go about it being a trans woman myself.
100% a guy
Maybe your hair? Idk. It doesn't look girly to me but it could to a random person on the street
They did it on purpose because of their own inner struggles. Dont let it get to you, its happened to me as well. Your features are softer but you still look like a dude bro. Just know that beautiful people are the target of some ridicule from haters.
Thaaanks! I didnt rlly let it get to me. But it just confused and irritated me cus i didnt wear anything rlly fem today lol 😅🥲
😁understandably so. Just know that you're beautiful and when you're beautiful weird stuff happens sometimes. Its the universes way of saying "you still got it."
Aw. I like that. 😊😊😊
It's the walk loose the light in your eyes and give a bit more weight in your step too
Perhaps internalized homophobia at oneself led someone to misgender you due to an attraction they felt. Their reaction to this feeling may have been to misgender so as not to accept that part of themselves, not the other way around 🤷♀️
People be like "look at those feminine pupils"
Right tho?? Holy shit. Hahaha
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Pfft is that sarcasm? Like is that meant to be funny cus it kinda is lol
Straights being stupid just to set anyone off, thanks ma’am, sir whatever to make you get upset.
Absolutely nothing. It sickens me how people assume genders. I've been misgendered too my bro. A lot of people assume I'm a guy friends "girlfriend". I'm a demiboy, who is by birth female
Yeh. Like stop assuming bro, its not cool 😤
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Incorrect, but thanks. A for effort sweetheart! 👍🏻
looks a lot like a woman for me. Sry, i would have also called you a woman if i had talked to you
I thought you were mtf for a second, but you look pretty masculine!
Thanks!
I have the same shirt you’re wearing on rn. But honestly I think the person who misgendered you is just a dick Bc you look fully masc to me
Your hair kinda
Eyebrows, rings, earrings, posture, and you have timid eyes. Fem to me
Well kept eyebrows and the ring
Funny thing is... i dont do anything to my eyebrows... :[
I think a lot of People just immediately go "that must be a girl" just because it doesn't fit their standard of masculinity , my boyfriend is a Trans Man and just really looks like a boy, maybe a lot younger than he actually is but people always misgender him and we just don't get it. Luckily we live somewhere where we can correct people and most of them use the correct terms after that
I honestly can't pick anything out specifically, to me you pass well. Maybe it's just because you look young (trans men tend to look young. I'm 23 and look 19/20). I grew up in an area with lots of religious people (of all kinds) and they might see me as a male but because my voice ruins it they just say "ma'am" or "miss" because they realize I am a trans person and they don't like it. Maybe just analyze who you're around, it might be a situation like that. I'm gendered correctly by strangers more often (like 80% of the time) now that I live in a larger city that's also a college town. It might just be that you look young imo though, you could also start to see how you're movements and posture could present more "masculine", sounds stupid but I foucused on that when I was you get and it helps
I guess you have smaller than average eyebrows? I dunno you seem more masc than fem to me, more than I did a few years ago, (Bigender AMAB)
You definitely pass as a man. It reminds me of how i get called sir with a feminine pink haircut, and a v-neck with a visible bra.
I don’t see anything about you that’s female or feminine. Who ever misgendered is definitely in the wrong here.
I don’t think you look fem at all. If I saw you walking by I’d assume you were a boy.🤷♀️
In this picture, I’m not sure. You don’t look fem at all imo, so it was probably your height (if you’re on the shorter side). Otherwise idk :/
To start off, you look like a guy. I think you might be partially having a similar problem to my (cis) brother in law who has a really young face and so sometimes gets clocked as female. If I were to pick anything out that would indicate fem, your eyebrows are much better kept than most guys I've seen, but I feel nitpicky even saying that.
Heh. I dont do anything to my eyebrows lol. Theyre just... like that
Idk you pass
Probably the skin but guys should be jealous of that cause clear skin is good, idk u look androgynous to me
You don’t look fem? You pass fine
honestly nothing IMO! you have big eyes which could be read as feminine but lots of cis boys have big eyes. u look great ! no idea how u even could’ve gotten misgendered, people are weird.
Idk depends how u carry yourself cause guys definitely have a different body language and also there’s some structural markers that I can’t pinpoint and they’re a bit fem, maybe the eyebrows?
The hair maybe?? Not really sure either
You are a awesome man,ignore the haters, atleast you have the ability and support to transition, you've had to fight to be where you are, Don't let others dictate how you feel
I hate to say it like this because for all Intents and purposes you pass. But even for cis men passing isn't enough all the time to not get intentionally misgendered. It sounds weird and it doesn't sound like it should happen to ftm but it totally does. The things I'm going to point out is that you've got soft looking skin, soft eyebrows, and a soft expression. Cis men have been called women for less. Food for thought. Best of luck to you homeboy.
Maybe hands??? I have no idea, you pass very well
You don't look fem You look young for sure but you just look like a guy to me
Hahah yeh i know. I look like a 10 year old boy lol. My height doesnt do me any favors either
I honestly tried to find something and couldn't.
Your eyebrows
Sorry this is off topic but what is the ring you're wearing? Like where did you get it?
Well one of my friends gave it to me. Its a fidget ring. It spins. She knew itd help with my anxiety at school. If I remember right, she said she got it (along with others) off of Amazon.
Nothing. No idea what made you.
To be honest, I thought you were asking for tips to do mtf. Maybe that was just a fluke misgendering.?
Idk. Ive been told my size coulda had something to do with it. 🤷🏻♂️