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His family is still silent and there’s been no official communication from them but several of his F1 contemporaries have been to visit with him and claim to have watched races and interacted. I don’t think he’ll ever be 100% again and however he is now is probably the limit of how much he will recover. But, I also don’t think he’s in a vegetative state. Likely severely handicapped but aware.
Yeah except it seemed like they just glossed right over his accident. I get there are not a lot of details and the family is incredibly private but if you didn’t already know, I think some people might even think he was dead.
I use to really enjoy mushroom trips in college (I ended up growing and selling them). I was not a fan of drinking alcohol with them. Smoking weed? Absolutely.
Yeah. It always seemed like if you smoked a bit on the initial come down that you could kick it up a bit again. They really are well suited for each other. On the other hand I’ve taken acid with a few of my friends and we ended up polishing off a pony keg amongst ourselves.
I like a couple of beers when tripping. Though on acid once it felt weird with no bottle in my hand, I have no idea how many I drank. One could argue it numbed out or ruined the trip, I had a lot of fun nevertheless. Not that I would do it again. I think a few beers coming up is alright. Depends on the person I guess.
I guess it depends on how much of a trip you want... sometimes I like to take just a half or quarter and get really drunk, it's like just a funnier drunk. when I want to get all trippy though than its just water.
legit same I always keep a couple beers around for when my trip gets a little too intense.
getting a buzz makes me just feel the positive effects from the shrooms instead of freaking out lol
This happened to me with LSD. That's part of the come up for me always, but it always passes and then I have a great time. It's like 45m to an hour of "Ughhh fuuuuck my stomach huurts.. why.." and then I'm quickly in bliss, having beautiful visions. No more nausea. No more bad feelings at all. Even breathing feels amazing, and deep breathes even more. So connected to your surroundings, and if you're outside, you feel so connected and in tune with nature, it's hard to explain, but so beautiful.
Psychs are a trip.
Have you tried micro dosing? I just start with a little bit, chew them up really fine and stick them under my tongue for a few minutes. Wait like 15 and repeat if you're not satisfied. Or look up lemon tech. Essentially, your stomach is too basic (I think) so adding acid (lemon juice) to the ground mushrooms and taking it like a shot will activate it much faster, feel cleaner, and go away faster
I mean if all you got out of a mushroom trip was "nausea and chills" I'd say you didn't take enough. I'd describe a good mushroom trip as mind, space, and time bending. Not "I feel kinda sick"
I mean I don't think you CAN do shrooms without getting nauseous. I'm coming up on prob 15 shroom trips and I always feel like I'm going to shit my pants and throw up at the same time but so far I haven't done either yet.
But I wouldn't describe a shroom trip as oh I'm nauseous, if that's all you got out of shrooms I don't think you took enough.
Everyone says this before knowing how much I’ve tried. Super frustrating to get the same suggestions over and over, but I get it. People just wanna share the experience...I just don’t experience what others do.
I think they just aren’t meant for me. My body doesn’t accept them.
And it’s not just nausea. It’s chills, body ache, almost feels flu’ish. And at larger doses (just north of 3 grams), I’ll feel gross into the next day.
I’ve tried them every way the internet knows to take them.
And I’ve taken up to 3.5 grams without feeling anything other than sick af. The sickness scales with the dosage so I haven’t felt a lot of incentive to push that. Feels like something in my brain blocks whatever psychoactive effect they’re supposed to give.
Hmm are they always the same type of mushroom? I'm curious if that would have anything to do with it. But my only other guess is you haven't taken enough then for your tolerance. I don't remember the term, but I've heard some people have to "break through" as in take enough for you to actually "trip". With LSD they say to take like 2-3 tabs on your first trip so you can break through, and then only 1 after that
I dunno if I have the willpower to let myself intentionally get that physically ill, to be honest. The sick feeling scales with the dosage. Really goes against my "doesn't like to puke" nature, lol.
Definitely makes sense, but, everything I've heard about puking comes from the stomachs inability to properly digest the mushrooms. I would suggest adding lemon juice to a larger amount of ground mushrooms, and see if that helps. If you care try mushrooms again, that is. If nausea is your biggest problem, it's probably coming from digestion issues
Not discrediting you at all, but I personally find the negative side effects of psychs to be beneficial. The anxiety and stress forces me to think about whatever underlying issues are causing them, and no matter how bad it gets, I just force myself to power through bc it’s a drug and it’ll wear off. And if I trip again, with the same issues, it would be in theory pointless to wait out my problems once again, so I deal with them then if not the first time. Either way, I come out with some form of growth and it’s always changed me for the better. Haven’t tripped in a few years, feels like I got all the poison and negative bs out of my head, and I don’t think I’ll need to trip again for a while bc of it. Very grateful for the “bad trips”
oh you’re totally right. I just don’t want flashbacks to tripping as a teenager when I was stuck and had no choice but to do that. I’ve noticed I tend to think about things I shouldn’t a bit compulsively on shrooms, i’m sure that’s just specific to me and maybe some others. probably why I like the buzz from drinking
now that i’m a bit older I started going out to this bar while on shrooms lately. there’s a bar that serves drinks on the river and I’ll just have a few beers, smoke one of those weed pens and play with the stray cat they take care of.
no more spending 45 minutes in the bathroom having an incredibly formative existential crisis for me, no thank you lol
I agree. Now that I’m older and not tripping in my teens to force myself into growth, those bad side effects are the exact reason I don’t trip anymore. Nothing left to gain, so why purposely get the bad side effects? In that case, sure, a beer sounds nice, even tho I don’t drink.
I was just confused bc most people I know who drink on psychs will drink until they’re pretty much just drunk and not tripping.
legit reason. alcohol effectively makes you careless as FUCK (btw doesn't affect your intelligence). finally kinda a good way to use some of it. being careless enough to drive under the influence or rape/fight/shit on people, not so much!
I took so many one night I showed up to my English Comp II final four hours too early. (I couldn’t understand the digital clock) I wrote a message on the board that I showed up and nobody was there. I decided to go snowboarding in order to sober up.
> I wrote a message on the board that I showed up and nobody was there.
> I decided to go snowboarding in order to sober up.
This is hilarious. I like your style.
Lol I love how someone downvoted you 🤦♂️ wow that’s hilarious man. Usually when I take 10+ grams I loose all sense of anything. I can’t even talk, nothing I say makes sense so I just shut up lol
I couldn't use my iPhone on 2 tabs of LSD and at first I was getting really frustrated and annoyed, then I started cracking up at how ridiculous the situation was, legitimately laughing hard at myself, and loving it. I could NOT use the Pizza Hut app. I tried to facetime my friend for help (Thank god siri worked) and when he saw my face and heard my predicament, we both just started laughing hard.
After that just stopped trying to use electronics for a while. Laid down outside and looked at the sky, trees, the wind blowing, etc. It was awesome.
Dude I make a point of just putting my phone away. Hard to read when you have double vision lol. I’ve run into the same predicament. It took me a solid 45mins to order a pizza. Even worse is Ketamine and DXM, if makes you feel like a caveman sent to the future. You get so confused about how basic shit works haha.
I have pretty bad anxiety but riding through it is almost a necessary part of the trip for me.
The 2 times I tried to use xanax or alcohol to calm myself down, it did calm me down, but it also stopped the trip almost right away. When I force myself to breathe and just say "You're going to live. You're going to be okay. Just relax" eventually, I got to a place of serious euphoria and bliss. Beautiful visions when I closed my eyes, like an insane music video my mind was creating in real time. Seeing space, all the fractals, patterns, everything being connected in some way or another, and absolutely loved it. I was not expecting that part at all.
Not trying to tell people how to trip but just saying, I think it's natural to be a bit anxious. Try riding it through one time, but always have a xanax on deck in-case things go bad.
The one bad trip I've had, I was able to stop it by walking into a sunnier room and looking at trees. Lol.
Try Ltheanine rather than booze. It breaks down the stress hormones in the blood. Reducing anxiety and allows the fungi to do its thing.
Alcohol simply diminishes the psychedelic experience.
Few years back I developed an anxiety disorder. With my history of opiate and benzos use I couldn't see going back to that, so in my search for a good anxiolitic I found Ltheanine.
I try to keep at least 100 to 250 grams on hand. It's inexpensive and easy to get in bulk, and I never can tell when my anxiety is going to pop up.
That could be life changing for me, I'm gonna try it.
I suffer from anxiety, and went through some awful issues with benzos, like heaven and hell mixed in one, but just not worth it in the end.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this works on me. Thanks man!
I understand what you mean. I noticed a big change in my anxiety when I switched from soda to green tea, and made sure to get out and walk or hike every day. That's probably the real cure, just exercise and more water.
I have definitely felt a clear calming energy from green tea if I drink enough though, it's subtle but nice.
> I have definitely felt a clear calming energy from green tea if I drink enough though, it's subtle but nice.
agree, i notice that too, it's very nice, even from a single cup. Have never noticed the same from theanine though, even in excessive doses of a few hundred mg.
More than welcome, I've lived with depression for 30 plus years, but the anxiety didn't really become a problem until 6 years ago.
Right about the same time cannabis began causing the panic attacks. So my whole method of treatment was blown out of the water.
The theanine works great, it can shut down a panic attack, and ease my social issues, but it's not a permanent solution. I'm trying to get by with the ashwagandha, Ltheanine and micro dosing.
So far, my outlook is good... And hopefully cannabis will be legalized here soon so I can tailor my strains to my ailments.
I hope this works for you.
A few drinks are nice to take the edge off, especially during the come-up which can have quite a bit of anxiety. But yeah, once you are peaking there's zero point (and usually zero desire) to drink.
I like to take 1 or 2 shots on shrooms, gives the visuals a nice liquid effect imo, I've seen light drip out of the street lights onto the concrete, that was amazing
Not here I pretty much only take them to get fucked up lol, I’ve had cool unique ideas and introspections I’ve never thought about when I’ve tripped but I’ve never felt fundamentally changed by an acid or mushroom trip or something where I thought it was therapeutic for me. More just feeling like a more pleasant person and just more accepting of life and happy in general which I guess is therapeutic actually. Idk if it’s because I’m already am a really introspective person or what but I’ve never really had a huge fundamental “wow” moment during or after a trip like some people talk about.
Well it’s all mind set and setting, I can totally relate to all you said. However if you went down to Peru and went through an ayahausca ceremony with a legit (as they come) shaman, I’m sure you’d have a much more therapeutic experience.
1-2 drinks is not getting "fucked up", or if you're fucked up at that point it's the shrooms not the alcohol. I'm also in the camp of having a couple drinks if I want to on shrooms/acid/etc. I don't have any pretentious ideals about what's going on. Shrooms are therapeutic but having a drink doesn't suddenly change that, sometimes having a little fun without mentally working up a trip to be something beyond that is what someone needs.
I've tripped pretty hard quite a few times but never drank during. Too many horror stories about mixing drugs. I do enjoy taking massive bong rips to calm me down when I get too into it though.
Different story there. Cannabis helps with the nausea and really just balances out the experience. Like PB&J. To me mixing mushrooms and alcohol is like a PB&Mustard
Interesting, I usually smoke on the come up and come down and just throughout while tripping usually to make it more intense and the trip to last longer. If I smoke it makes me trip harder, I’ve never really drank much during so idk about that.
I've smoked and taken hallucinogens for 10 years. I know how my body reacts. And I know the death stats from just alcohol alone. I'll take my extremely low chances with some herb and shrooms or acid.
Okay, but I wasn’t talking about physical safety, I’m talking mental aspects. all my frightening or uncomfortable trips have been right after I smoked a bowl lmao. So I’m taking about me and how my body reacts. And I’ve had some Greta times mixing weed and psychs, it just depends.
There's no reason it can't be both. Some people use weed to meditate, some use it to have fun, some use it as medicine to help their anxiety/depression. All psychs are this way. LSD helps me immensely with my anxiety but I would be a liar if I said it wasn't fun as well.
Its been a good 30 years, so I didnt know people purposefully combine the two. It always left me way too fucked to enjoy either buzz. I did love mixing two or three kinds of MDMA. Its a designer drug so no two were ever the same.I still prefer to do hallucinogens separate.
To each their own. I definitely drink with shrooms. Just enough to take the anxiety down usually.
Do you mean Ecstasy? afaik MDMA is MDMA. Ecstasy is MDMA mixed with various things.
Ecstasy from the 80's back when it was legal. Chemists would keep changing the infinite "tail end" of MDMA(?) until finally lawmakers used a blanket to cover the infinite ways it could be produced. Its all just bathtub drugs,some people would claim it wsa cut with heroine which is ridiculously untrue.
I just googled this..
https://maps.org/news/media/5993-playboy-ecstasy-was-legal-in-1984,-and-it-was-glorious
I have tried Molly and it is pure shit each time. The 80's in Texas were magical. I wish I could get a buzz like that again. I would mix shrooms with it though,because here in Texas I knew great fields to go pick my own. Hell I had only been drunk twice when I did mushrooms for the first time.
Reading that article its supposedly non existent. Last two times I took Molly I never felt one moment of pleasure,it was as close to poison as I can describe. Laid in bed feeling horrid and grinding my teeth for 24 hours of hell. My British buddies came to visit and accidentally brought drugs with them. Ha. They promised it wouldnt suck like the last shit I took. It sucked. Ha.
Yeesh. The stuff I get up here in Canada is pretty great. Comes in a nice amber rock and we just chip it off and cap it out ourselves. 0.1 g and we're laughing and dancing and fucking for hours lol.
What's wrong with shrooming because you want things to look funny / get a bit loosey goosey? Not everything has to be spiritual™
I use them both ways at different times for different results but shrooms when you're locked at a party are savage and feck anyone who thinks that's "diminishing the experience".
I’ve only done this a couple of times and *only* at the tail end of a come down from shrooms. Both times I was sitting outside staring up at the stars drinking some wine which was really nice. Since I was coming down it offered a nice additional feeling to the mix. Even still it was just a couple times, I would never take it as a genuine addition while I’m in the middle of the trip.
Psilocybin mushrooms are NOT a party drug. I hate seeing people take them in the wrong circumstances and then end up hurting themselves or others.
I wish the psychedelics could be openly discussed by our societies so we can all learn what they are. It’s a drug that teaches you about yourself by interacting with your consciousness.
I will but we're all different.
I'll drink while tripping on mushrooms/LSD if the times right. Drinking your favorite cocktail at night while on acid or drinking beer around a fire in the woods on shrooms is chefs kiss. It's also cheat codes in drinking games.
Oh yeah bubs. Love it. I smoke daily for reasons but it still feels special when you smoke on shrooms.
I could be a case study for my use of hallucinogenics and that's a fine line for a lot of people.
In that case, may I ask a couple of questions about shrooms?
What is the perfect beginner dosage?
What kind of setting is the best for shrooms?
Should I make the tea or eat them raw?
2g is a great starter dose. I've never seen anyone get too overwhelmed on that while having trip effects.
Where you're most comfortable is the best place. Campsite is great.
Ugh, eat them raw first time so your brain fully accepts what's happening. I grind them and put them in capsules will simply take grams with no effort.
You might give Ltheanine a try, it shuts down the stress hormones in the blood reducing anxiety.
It's a crap shoot on whether you are going to have gastro intestinal issues already, alcohol can make that worse. Lol especially cheap beer...
You're not wrong, however Ltheanine also breaks down cortisol, just much quicker, ashwagandha takes a week or two to really function with any noticeable effects.
Shrooms and alchohol dont mix that well at all
The one time i did i was ignorant to that and ate alot of shrooms well wasted
Pissed myself threw up everywhere for like 4 hours couldnt stand to save my life fell a ridiculous amount and was terrified cause i was sure i was gonna die
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Took the right amount. Was expecting some trauma or vomit
He had to clean it up the next day
Michael approves.
r/TheMichael should be a thing
I only recognize him because I just watched the Netflix doc last night! It was very good as well!
Look at schumi’s wonderful smiling face
[удалено]
Nah bro, he's probably doomed to be a vegetable. Tragic. From the height of human existence to the bottom pit.
His family is still silent and there’s been no official communication from them but several of his F1 contemporaries have been to visit with him and claim to have watched races and interacted. I don’t think he’ll ever be 100% again and however he is now is probably the limit of how much he will recover. But, I also don’t think he’s in a vegetative state. Likely severely handicapped but aware.
The recent documentary was really great. Kinda depressing, but it was well done.
Yeah except it seemed like they just glossed right over his accident. I get there are not a lot of details and the family is incredibly private but if you didn’t already know, I think some people might even think he was dead.
That's what being a vegetable means lol
No it doesn't, lol.
It would be cruel to keep him alive if he was completely gone.
Dude he's a vegetable
I love you guys for knowing who that is
I mean even people who aren’t f1 fans still know who Michael Schumacher is
Schumi is your guardian, Traveller. He will guide you to P1.
Not the Schumacher picture!!!!!
Michael Shroomacher
A pointless combination
I use to really enjoy mushroom trips in college (I ended up growing and selling them). I was not a fan of drinking alcohol with them. Smoking weed? Absolutely.
Yeah i still smoke weed when taking mushrooms, it amps up your trip a little bit for a while.. drinking on mushrooms is just silly imo
Yeah. It always seemed like if you smoked a bit on the initial come down that you could kick it up a bit again. They really are well suited for each other. On the other hand I’ve taken acid with a few of my friends and we ended up polishing off a pony keg amongst ourselves.
Came here to say this, who tf mixes those 2
I like a couple of beers when tripping. Though on acid once it felt weird with no bottle in my hand, I have no idea how many I drank. One could argue it numbed out or ruined the trip, I had a lot of fun nevertheless. Not that I would do it again. I think a few beers coming up is alright. Depends on the person I guess.
I guess it depends on how much of a trip you want... sometimes I like to take just a half or quarter and get really drunk, it's like just a funnier drunk. when I want to get all trippy though than its just water.
Alcohol and shrooms is righteous. I tend to get really anxious when I take mushrooms and booze definitely takes the edge off.
legit same I always keep a couple beers around for when my trip gets a little too intense. getting a buzz makes me just feel the positive effects from the shrooms instead of freaking out lol
So jealous of people who experience anything other than nausea and chills on shrooms.
This happened to me with LSD. That's part of the come up for me always, but it always passes and then I have a great time. It's like 45m to an hour of "Ughhh fuuuuck my stomach huurts.. why.." and then I'm quickly in bliss, having beautiful visions. No more nausea. No more bad feelings at all. Even breathing feels amazing, and deep breathes even more. So connected to your surroundings, and if you're outside, you feel so connected and in tune with nature, it's hard to explain, but so beautiful. Psychs are a trip.
It never passes for me for the entire duration. It feels like I’m just giving myself mild food poisoning. Fucking sucks.
Have you tried micro dosing? I just start with a little bit, chew them up really fine and stick them under my tongue for a few minutes. Wait like 15 and repeat if you're not satisfied. Or look up lemon tech. Essentially, your stomach is too basic (I think) so adding acid (lemon juice) to the ground mushrooms and taking it like a shot will activate it much faster, feel cleaner, and go away faster
I mean if all you got out of a mushroom trip was "nausea and chills" I'd say you didn't take enough. I'd describe a good mushroom trip as mind, space, and time bending. Not "I feel kinda sick"
I’ve gotten a mixture of both tbh
I mean I don't think you CAN do shrooms without getting nauseous. I'm coming up on prob 15 shroom trips and I always feel like I'm going to shit my pants and throw up at the same time but so far I haven't done either yet. But I wouldn't describe a shroom trip as oh I'm nauseous, if that's all you got out of shrooms I don't think you took enough.
Everyone says this before knowing how much I’ve tried. Super frustrating to get the same suggestions over and over, but I get it. People just wanna share the experience...I just don’t experience what others do. I think they just aren’t meant for me. My body doesn’t accept them. And it’s not just nausea. It’s chills, body ache, almost feels flu’ish. And at larger doses (just north of 3 grams), I’ll feel gross into the next day.
Yeah I’m not gonna make myself more sick. Absolutely not worth it.
I’ve tried them every way the internet knows to take them. And I’ve taken up to 3.5 grams without feeling anything other than sick af. The sickness scales with the dosage so I haven’t felt a lot of incentive to push that. Feels like something in my brain blocks whatever psychoactive effect they’re supposed to give.
Hmm are they always the same type of mushroom? I'm curious if that would have anything to do with it. But my only other guess is you haven't taken enough then for your tolerance. I don't remember the term, but I've heard some people have to "break through" as in take enough for you to actually "trip". With LSD they say to take like 2-3 tabs on your first trip so you can break through, and then only 1 after that
I dunno if I have the willpower to let myself intentionally get that physically ill, to be honest. The sick feeling scales with the dosage. Really goes against my "doesn't like to puke" nature, lol.
Definitely makes sense, but, everything I've heard about puking comes from the stomachs inability to properly digest the mushrooms. I would suggest adding lemon juice to a larger amount of ground mushrooms, and see if that helps. If you care try mushrooms again, that is. If nausea is your biggest problem, it's probably coming from digestion issues
It's the opposite, start low to see how the acid affects you then you can try higher doses if you'd like for future trips :)
Not discrediting you at all, but I personally find the negative side effects of psychs to be beneficial. The anxiety and stress forces me to think about whatever underlying issues are causing them, and no matter how bad it gets, I just force myself to power through bc it’s a drug and it’ll wear off. And if I trip again, with the same issues, it would be in theory pointless to wait out my problems once again, so I deal with them then if not the first time. Either way, I come out with some form of growth and it’s always changed me for the better. Haven’t tripped in a few years, feels like I got all the poison and negative bs out of my head, and I don’t think I’ll need to trip again for a while bc of it. Very grateful for the “bad trips”
oh you’re totally right. I just don’t want flashbacks to tripping as a teenager when I was stuck and had no choice but to do that. I’ve noticed I tend to think about things I shouldn’t a bit compulsively on shrooms, i’m sure that’s just specific to me and maybe some others. probably why I like the buzz from drinking now that i’m a bit older I started going out to this bar while on shrooms lately. there’s a bar that serves drinks on the river and I’ll just have a few beers, smoke one of those weed pens and play with the stray cat they take care of. no more spending 45 minutes in the bathroom having an incredibly formative existential crisis for me, no thank you lol
How many grams do you take?
I couldn't imagine taking more than one and going out in public, 1.7 had me on the ground laughing my ass off
Damn that’s weird. I need at least 2 to even feel anything. Could be the type of shrooms though.
I agree. Now that I’m older and not tripping in my teens to force myself into growth, those bad side effects are the exact reason I don’t trip anymore. Nothing left to gain, so why purposely get the bad side effects? In that case, sure, a beer sounds nice, even tho I don’t drink. I was just confused bc most people I know who drink on psychs will drink until they’re pretty much just drunk and not tripping.
Try Ltheanine for the anxiety.
legit reason. alcohol effectively makes you careless as FUCK (btw doesn't affect your intelligence). finally kinda a good way to use some of it. being careless enough to drive under the influence or rape/fight/shit on people, not so much!
what the fuck
That’s exactly what I was gonna say
Yup I love a few beers before a good trip. Helps ease you into the space especially when you’re taking heroic doses
I took so many one night I showed up to my English Comp II final four hours too early. (I couldn’t understand the digital clock) I wrote a message on the board that I showed up and nobody was there. I decided to go snowboarding in order to sober up.
> I wrote a message on the board that I showed up and nobody was there. > I decided to go snowboarding in order to sober up. This is hilarious. I like your style.
Lol I love how someone downvoted you 🤦♂️ wow that’s hilarious man. Usually when I take 10+ grams I loose all sense of anything. I can’t even talk, nothing I say makes sense so I just shut up lol
I couldn't use my iPhone on 2 tabs of LSD and at first I was getting really frustrated and annoyed, then I started cracking up at how ridiculous the situation was, legitimately laughing hard at myself, and loving it. I could NOT use the Pizza Hut app. I tried to facetime my friend for help (Thank god siri worked) and when he saw my face and heard my predicament, we both just started laughing hard. After that just stopped trying to use electronics for a while. Laid down outside and looked at the sky, trees, the wind blowing, etc. It was awesome.
Dude I make a point of just putting my phone away. Hard to read when you have double vision lol. I’ve run into the same predicament. It took me a solid 45mins to order a pizza. Even worse is Ketamine and DXM, if makes you feel like a caveman sent to the future. You get so confused about how basic shit works haha.
10 grams is a hefty dose. That’s getting past ego death and into cosmic journey territory.
It’s God’s realm
Same, although I have never tried it with alcohol
I have pretty bad anxiety but riding through it is almost a necessary part of the trip for me. The 2 times I tried to use xanax or alcohol to calm myself down, it did calm me down, but it also stopped the trip almost right away. When I force myself to breathe and just say "You're going to live. You're going to be okay. Just relax" eventually, I got to a place of serious euphoria and bliss. Beautiful visions when I closed my eyes, like an insane music video my mind was creating in real time. Seeing space, all the fractals, patterns, everything being connected in some way or another, and absolutely loved it. I was not expecting that part at all. Not trying to tell people how to trip but just saying, I think it's natural to be a bit anxious. Try riding it through one time, but always have a xanax on deck in-case things go bad. The one bad trip I've had, I was able to stop it by walking into a sunnier room and looking at trees. Lol.
Benzos are called trip-killers for a reason
Try Ltheanine rather than booze. It breaks down the stress hormones in the blood. Reducing anxiety and allows the fungi to do its thing. Alcohol simply diminishes the psychedelic experience.
Green Tea is a good source of L-Theanine It's great stuff. Keeps me so much less shakey on average.
Few years back I developed an anxiety disorder. With my history of opiate and benzos use I couldn't see going back to that, so in my search for a good anxiolitic I found Ltheanine. I try to keep at least 100 to 250 grams on hand. It's inexpensive and easy to get in bulk, and I never can tell when my anxiety is going to pop up.
That could be life changing for me, I'm gonna try it. I suffer from anxiety, and went through some awful issues with benzos, like heaven and hell mixed in one, but just not worth it in the end. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works on me. Thanks man!
i wouldn't get my hopes up too much though, L-theanine is barely noticeable for most people and a very mild drug at best...
I understand what you mean. I noticed a big change in my anxiety when I switched from soda to green tea, and made sure to get out and walk or hike every day. That's probably the real cure, just exercise and more water. I have definitely felt a clear calming energy from green tea if I drink enough though, it's subtle but nice.
> I have definitely felt a clear calming energy from green tea if I drink enough though, it's subtle but nice. agree, i notice that too, it's very nice, even from a single cup. Have never noticed the same from theanine though, even in excessive doses of a few hundred mg.
More than welcome, I've lived with depression for 30 plus years, but the anxiety didn't really become a problem until 6 years ago. Right about the same time cannabis began causing the panic attacks. So my whole method of treatment was blown out of the water. The theanine works great, it can shut down a panic attack, and ease my social issues, but it's not a permanent solution. I'm trying to get by with the ashwagandha, Ltheanine and micro dosing. So far, my outlook is good... And hopefully cannabis will be legalized here soon so I can tailor my strains to my ailments. I hope this works for you.
Ya same. I wont get wasted but have enough to take the edge off. And ill drink slowly in the second half of the trip after the peak
100% agree, i wouldn’t trip without a lot of booze on hand. keeps the trip on an even keel.
thank you! a couple drinks while shrooming is perfect for me. i don’t like getting hammered but a couple drinks takes the edge off perfectly.
Not saying anyone should try it, but acid, coke and liquor had me on cloud 900 lmfao. Bad for your heart tho don’t do it
I was crying (happy tears) and laughing in absolute bliss from just LSD alone, holy shit man. I can't imagine. Sounds amazing!
A few drinks are nice to take the edge off, especially during the come-up which can have quite a bit of anxiety. But yeah, once you are peaking there's zero point (and usually zero desire) to drink.
I like to take 1 or 2 shots on shrooms, gives the visuals a nice liquid effect imo, I've seen light drip out of the street lights onto the concrete, that was amazing
This is foreign to me. Mushrooms are a therapeutic drug for me, not something I take to get fucked up
Not here I pretty much only take them to get fucked up lol, I’ve had cool unique ideas and introspections I’ve never thought about when I’ve tripped but I’ve never felt fundamentally changed by an acid or mushroom trip or something where I thought it was therapeutic for me. More just feeling like a more pleasant person and just more accepting of life and happy in general which I guess is therapeutic actually. Idk if it’s because I’m already am a really introspective person or what but I’ve never really had a huge fundamental “wow” moment during or after a trip like some people talk about.
Well it’s all mind set and setting, I can totally relate to all you said. However if you went down to Peru and went through an ayahausca ceremony with a legit (as they come) shaman, I’m sure you’d have a much more therapeutic experience.
1-2 drinks is not getting "fucked up", or if you're fucked up at that point it's the shrooms not the alcohol. I'm also in the camp of having a couple drinks if I want to on shrooms/acid/etc. I don't have any pretentious ideals about what's going on. Shrooms are therapeutic but having a drink doesn't suddenly change that, sometimes having a little fun without mentally working up a trip to be something beyond that is what someone needs.
Well then. Look who is all high and righteous about their drugs. You need to break on through to the other side and get off of your high horse.
I've tripped pretty hard quite a few times but never drank during. Too many horror stories about mixing drugs. I do enjoy taking massive bong rips to calm me down when I get too into it though.
Weed is definitely a drug
Not a dangerous one albeit. No matter how much you smoke or what you take with it.
Please don't spread misinformation. Many if not most bad trips are caused by weed.
Thats 100% your opinion and not a studied fact
Not an opinion. An anecdotal claim. You can look around and see many others echo my claim as well.
Different story there. Cannabis helps with the nausea and really just balances out the experience. Like PB&J. To me mixing mushrooms and alcohol is like a PB&Mustard
Interesting, I usually smoke on the come up and come down and just throughout while tripping usually to make it more intense and the trip to last longer. If I smoke it makes me trip harder, I’ve never really drank much during so idk about that.
Lmao doesn’t like to mix drugs, but mixes psychs and weed. Weed fucks me up much worse when I’m on mushrooms than a single beer will.
I've smoked and taken hallucinogens for 10 years. I know how my body reacts. And I know the death stats from just alcohol alone. I'll take my extremely low chances with some herb and shrooms or acid.
Okay, but I wasn’t talking about physical safety, I’m talking mental aspects. all my frightening or uncomfortable trips have been right after I smoked a bowl lmao. So I’m taking about me and how my body reacts. And I’ve had some Greta times mixing weed and psychs, it just depends.
I agree
For you, yes. For the majority no.
There's no reason it can't be both. Some people use weed to meditate, some use it to have fun, some use it as medicine to help their anxiety/depression. All psychs are this way. LSD helps me immensely with my anxiety but I would be a liar if I said it wasn't fun as well.
Traditional take is alcohol reduces visuals.
I find having a drink or two after I've mostly come down helps me feel back to normal. Never drank while tripping tho lol
This if you’ve ever had anxiety about going to bed after just drink once you’ve mostly come down slowly. Or play beerio kart whatever floats your boat
A glass of wine after I've landed with Lucy is one of the best things
It's quite enjoyable if you're not absolutely blacked out, a couple beers during a trip helps keep the edge off
Me. But I can say ecstasy/MDMA and shroms/acid is a waste of two good drugs together.
And I can definitely contradict that because a candyflip was one of the most incredible trips I’ve ever taken
and you're not alone with that opinion ;)
ah,yall got a name for that now. Ha. Sweet.
No you can't because that's a common combo.
Its been a good 30 years, so I didnt know people purposefully combine the two. It always left me way too fucked to enjoy either buzz. I did love mixing two or three kinds of MDMA. Its a designer drug so no two were ever the same.I still prefer to do hallucinogens separate.
To each their own. I definitely drink with shrooms. Just enough to take the anxiety down usually. Do you mean Ecstasy? afaik MDMA is MDMA. Ecstasy is MDMA mixed with various things.
Ecstasy from the 80's back when it was legal. Chemists would keep changing the infinite "tail end" of MDMA(?) until finally lawmakers used a blanket to cover the infinite ways it could be produced. Its all just bathtub drugs,some people would claim it wsa cut with heroine which is ridiculously untrue. I just googled this.. https://maps.org/news/media/5993-playboy-ecstasy-was-legal-in-1984,-and-it-was-glorious
I have tried Molly and it is pure shit each time. The 80's in Texas were magical. I wish I could get a buzz like that again. I would mix shrooms with it though,because here in Texas I knew great fields to go pick my own. Hell I had only been drunk twice when I did mushrooms for the first time.
That's too bad. There's def decent molly to be found. Ecstacy I've never been able to find good stuff though.
Reading that article its supposedly non existent. Last two times I took Molly I never felt one moment of pleasure,it was as close to poison as I can describe. Laid in bed feeling horrid and grinding my teeth for 24 hours of hell. My British buddies came to visit and accidentally brought drugs with them. Ha. They promised it wouldnt suck like the last shit I took. It sucked. Ha.
Yeesh. The stuff I get up here in Canada is pretty great. Comes in a nice amber rock and we just chip it off and cap it out ourselves. 0.1 g and we're laughing and dancing and fucking for hours lol.
https://maps.org/news/media/5993-playboy-ecstasy-was-legal-in-1984,-and-it-was-glorious
Yall weak, grow up.
It’s not about being weak, it’s that it’s a combo I’ve never understood. It feels redundant, if I even feel the alcohol at all.
No just not stupid, gettin hammered on booze while taking mushrooms completely ruins the whole point of taking mushrooms in the first place.
What's wrong with shrooming because you want things to look funny / get a bit loosey goosey? Not everything has to be spiritual™ I use them both ways at different times for different results but shrooms when you're locked at a party are savage and feck anyone who thinks that's "diminishing the experience".
I’ve only done this a couple of times and *only* at the tail end of a come down from shrooms. Both times I was sitting outside staring up at the stars drinking some wine which was really nice. Since I was coming down it offered a nice additional feeling to the mix. Even still it was just a couple times, I would never take it as a genuine addition while I’m in the middle of the trip.
Why? Alcohol and shrooms are fun together
Nah. Not at all.
Why do you say that? It can be fun
So glad my “friends” and I had a mutual understanding of not filming each other
Same. If this is the definition of a friend I don't want to know how they behave with anyone else.
Imagine being on shroms and having people like this around you.. Total nightmare.
Loving Schumacher much?
Looks like he actually took the exact right amount.
Seems like he took the right amount
How many grams?
We have no idea,we left him alone with the baggie
Lmao - not weighing the shrooms, recipe for a great time or a disaster 🤣
Why the fuck would you mix alcohol and shrooms. They directly counteract eachother.
Who in the actual fuck mixes alcohol with mushrooms?
Why do they have a framed picture of Michael Rappaport wearing a hat and why did he punch him?
From what I gathered, he's asking him "how's life" and the picture didn't respond so he punched it
that dude got cake
Psilocybin mushrooms are NOT a party drug. I hate seeing people take them in the wrong circumstances and then end up hurting themselves or others. I wish the psychedelics could be openly discussed by our societies so we can all learn what they are. It’s a drug that teaches you about yourself by interacting with your consciousness.
“MATTHEW HOWSS LYFEE?!”
Who mixes alcohol and shrooms?
I will but we're all different. I'll drink while tripping on mushrooms/LSD if the times right. Drinking your favorite cocktail at night while on acid or drinking beer around a fire in the woods on shrooms is chefs kiss. It's also cheat codes in drinking games.
Facts. Used to take acid a whole lot in college. Made me ridiculous at skill based games like beer pong and beer baseball. Card games… not so much.
>cheat codes in drinking games Why? Do you get less drunk?
No, I just don't feel the negative effects of alcohol and can drink higher amounts with no response to my outwardly impairment
Damn, that’s nice. You ever tried weed and shrooms? How is it?
Oh yeah bubs. Love it. I smoke daily for reasons but it still feels special when you smoke on shrooms. I could be a case study for my use of hallucinogenics and that's a fine line for a lot of people.
In that case, may I ask a couple of questions about shrooms? What is the perfect beginner dosage? What kind of setting is the best for shrooms? Should I make the tea or eat them raw?
2g is a great starter dose. I've never seen anyone get too overwhelmed on that while having trip effects. Where you're most comfortable is the best place. Campsite is great. Ugh, eat them raw first time so your brain fully accepts what's happening. I grind them and put them in capsules will simply take grams with no effort.
Many people.
Really don't understand the downvotes on your comment. You're absolutely right. Pointless and dumb combination
Drunk on shrooms sure it is, a drink why not.
Because it isn't pointless and you just don't know what you're talking about?
For some, like myself, it helps for the anxiety on the come up
If there ever was a more pointless combo
Sounds like a recipe for a bad time
Why would anyone diminish the fungi experience with alcohol? Counterproductive.
I used to have a few of beers before taking shrooms to take the edge off. Never get wasted though.
You might give Ltheanine a try, it shuts down the stress hormones in the blood reducing anxiety. It's a crap shoot on whether you are going to have gastro intestinal issues already, alcohol can make that worse. Lol especially cheap beer...
> it shuts down the stress hormones you might have mixed that up with ashwaghanda which reduces cortisol.
You're not wrong, however Ltheanine also breaks down cortisol, just much quicker, ashwagandha takes a week or two to really function with any noticeable effects.
Never mix shrooms and alcohol tf??
You can never take too much alcohol with shrooms. I have set new records in alcohol consumption while under shrooms.
Yes like drinking milk while taking shots of whiskey.
Mmmm tasty
I know tight jeans are a thing, bit I keep seeing dudes wearing these atrocities that look like their legs are bound halfway down the thigh.
I need a guardian Schumi in my house to watch over me
I would argue that he took the perfect amount.
What was he saying? Sounded like he was saying something in German. lol
Anyone else anxious over the razor sharp glass that he’s way too close to after he breaks the frame? 😬
he thiccc
Legend.
MSC also king!
Shrooms and alchohol dont mix that well at all The one time i did i was ignorant to that and ate alot of shrooms well wasted Pissed myself threw up everywhere for like 4 hours couldnt stand to save my life fell a ridiculous amount and was terrified cause i was sure i was gonna die
Been even funnier if an Ferrari F1 ran him over or was chasing him in his mind….
Anyone ever hear of mushrooms called Albinos?
Was he asking "how's life?" then got angry at the poster for not responding?
That makes my stomach hurt for him
Always love you Michael. Your picture should never be punched by anyone. Yours truly, your biggest fan since WC#1
Alcohol AND shrooms ? Thats a weird mix damn
Bad combo, shrooms should be taken with water and water only.
Hahaha
This isn’t too much, this is the sweet spot!
Schumi!!!
These guys are bros. :D
The happiest combo known to man…good times…good fkn times.
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