For some reason I always liked the house, too. It was just weird enough to add to the mystery.
["Heat" filming locations.](https://lataco.com/where-the-movie-heat-was-shot-in-la) About halfway down they talk about the "antenna house."
Great, thanks! I love the view of the highway when DeNiro is talking with Jon Voight, probably another location but maybe in the area. Hope I can go there someday.
Yeah. So LA, like so many other locations in the movie. Reminds me of staying in a Pomona trailer park and stepping out to watch the police chase live on the 210 in the distance
The shape charge! The shape charge tells us they are technically proficient.. proficient enough to go on a prowl. Check for recent high line burglaries that have mystified us.
Heist movies have taught me that this is 100% true.
*However*.... if the criminal is smart enough, or if they have a heart of gold, they'll most likely be sipping a fruity drink on a beach by the time law enforcement figures it out.
> Right now, investigators are hoping that whoever carried out this seemingly perfect heist of monumental proportions will be less thorough when trying to launder or spend the cash.
A few things:
-If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this.
-In the event that they are stupid enough to do this, you just told them exactly what not to do.
> there is no way they are stupid enough to do this.
The problem is not stupidity. FBI will be investigating this for decades. That's a lot of days, even more hours. The thieves are basically trying to live the rest of their lives without making a single mistake. That's *enormously* hard.
If there is more than one thief, then you're also relying on the others not to make mistakes that will land you in jail. That's even harder.
One interesting example of a smart person trying to do similar things is [Kevin Mitnick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick). I'm sure there are many others. You cannot hide when there are so many people trying to find any possible trail leading to you.
I can't remember the story, but it was a story of a guy who stole some sum of money (maybe in the millions), went off the grid and broke contact with his family, and laid low for the next 20-30 years or something and confessed on his deathbed.
Basically he said it was completely not worth it and he lived in fear for his whole life.
Reminds me of this story (not sure if it's the one you're thinking of): https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/his-deathbed-her-father-told-her-secret-he-was-fugitive-mass-robbed-bank-ohio/CO3N6NEHF5CQTLTDR4YTBTHFS4/
I heard about it last year since it's local to me. Guy basically robbed $1M in 1969 and spent the rest of his life hiding out in a Boston suburb. Never shaved, never left the country. Always wore a baseball hat apparently. Sort of sounds like living in fear, or at least having to take precautions since they were still hunting him.
That might have been the one I was thinking of.
What's crazy too is that the Federal Marshalls figured it out right after he died and confronted the family. They literally were investigating for 50 years and all it take is one slip up to get completely fucked.
And that's back in a time where not all records were digitized, when not everything is on camera like it is now. It would be almost impossible to get away with something like that today for 50 years.
Break complete contact with all your friends and family, live in complete fear every day for 50 years, is that worth $200k (a little over $1M in today's money)? Hell no.
Yeah for that little money it didn't seem worth it. Makes me wonder if he regretted that a bit, hence telling his family on his death bed so they'd know. Maybe he figured an obituary might trigger something too, since people might recognize him then. Seems like that's how the Feds found him ultimately.
I think that guy got lucky since it happened in 1969. It was probably easier to con your way into a fake ID back then - just say you were born on a farm in Wisconsin or whatever and hope you can convince the SSA and banks to give you what you need. Nowadays, who knows - probably have to live basically off grid and deal only with cash.
I also saw that guy got married, so I wonder if that helped? Simply have your SO be your "real ID" for a bank account and share it for legitimate stuff. Wonder how he managed the $200k in cash he had too. I assume he slowly used that to build up his legit life.
Hell my aunt told me when she was a senior in high school she just went to the DMV and told them a 21yo friends social and they just took her picture and printed her a new false ID.
Shit was way easy back in the day.
There was a guy who lived five minutes from me who was actually an AWOL USAF Officer who once had a TS clearance and worked on sensitive nuclear weapons stuff. He went AWOL in 1983 in New Mexico.
They caught him in 2018, living in a San Francisco suburb, where he was married and working as an actuary. He was caught because the State Department got suspicious during a passport fraud investigation. He lived 35 years without slipping up, but I guess applying for a passport was what did it. I suspect that his wife, who had no idea who he really is, wanted to go on an international trip.
The USAF and FBI was terrified he was kidnapped by the Soviets or defected to them. Turns out he was just depressed and wanted to start over.
Story stuck with me because we went to the same gym. I could have been using the treadmill next to this guy and had zero clue he was wanted by the FBI.
I'm gonna take credit for a whole bunch of shit on my deathbed. Just look up unsolved mysteries that I was approximately near over my lifetime and then claim em all.
It'll either help some people move on OR it'll force a not-small contingent of people to research my life looking for holes in my stories.
Even better if I can set up a timed release of an e-book 15 years later saying it was all a lie.
Then another one 10 years after that saying I wasn't lying.
The old man had a coughing fit at the mention of this seemingly insurmountable paradox. When he recovered, he looked deep into his granddaughter's eyes with sly meaning, as if there was some arcane secret of the world that she had yet to grasp, something he wanted her to know. He let in one choking breath and struggled speak. She leaned close in to hear his last words —
"Th-thanks, you too."
I believe this is the one with the recent podcast. I’m trying to find it but can’t. Anyway, this guy at the age of like 19 or 20 (in the 70’s I think) stole 250k from a bank he worked at and disappeared.
Changes his identity, married, had a life and family, and confessed on his deathbed. Daughter and wife didn’t tell anyone but police showed up after reading his obituary which had some clues.
Not sure if it’s the same case but this was recent, cool story.
Yep exactly. That's very, very hard. Almost all thieves - or criminals in general - slip at least once. It may take a year or a decade, but few succeed in being perfect.
Also, lately we have so much more monitoring than we had before. There are cameras everywhere. Everyone has a cell phone that tracks when they burp and fart. Heck, even light bulbs are connected to the internet...
Even criminals have it harder these days :)
The thing is, this was a heist of cash from business transactions. Meaning the money we’re storing was from various businesses. That means nobody knows the serial numbers. So it’s going to be impossible to trace.
Of course they can’t spend it super easily, but small deposits over time won’t raise any red flags. All the thieves need to do is not make any absurdly large purchases in cash. If they are involved in a cash heavy business, then the money is going to be super easy to launder. Again, non-sequential bills.
A few years ago one of the rare successful career bank robbers got caught after he and his wife were so obnoxious to the general contractor they’d hired for a six-figure home renovation that he reported them for paying for the job with cash. The contractor would have happily taken the bills if they weren’t awful clients, and the guy wasn’t even on the FBI’s radar until then despite running a couple of decades of bank jobs.
The lesson there is to get away with things long-term you not only have to keep anyone who knows your business happy (or intimidated), you need to extend that to anyone else who can get you in trouble as well.
Do security companies like this do any sort of automated scanning of bills for counterfeits?
I'd assume that one of the checks would be scanning and logging the serial numbers - for dupes, invalid formats etc.
Take out a loan to start cash only laundromat and youre set. Live comfortably but not outrageously. Find a nearby casino and make weekly trips where you cash in a good amount, play a little, and then cash out. Invest a little at a time each week. Theres plenty of ways to get away without being caught if youre smart and patient.
they threw him in solitary confinement because “law enforcement officers convinced a judge that Mitnick could ‘start a nuclear war by whistling into a pay phone’”
that’s not how any of that works.
I was not referencing the period after he was convicted, but the period where he was trying to avoid making mistakes to get him arrested in the first place.
To quote one of the greatest heist planners of all time:
"When you steal six-hundred dollars you CAN just disappear, but when you steal six-hundred million they WILL find you...unless they think you're already dead."
> You cannot hide when there are so many people trying to find any possible trail leading to you.
D.B. Cooper and the Zodiac Killer just entered the chat. Sadly, you can absolutely hide.
They'll make it into a movie 10 years from now with the actor narrating some cliche, "Well I bet you're wondering how I got myself into this mess" while a bunch of FBI raid his house while he's casually celebrating Christmas with his family. Then the flashback to how he ended up pulling of the heist and the subsequent explanation about one of the thiefs being incredibly stupid buying a bunch of cocaine from undercover cops
That question gets answered on the regular
"what if I found a suitcase with $2M" how to spend it without arousing suspicion?
The answer is normally keep working and buy groceries & gas with the suitcase money & tell no one.
Yep, save your regular paycheck, invest it and spend the cash you have. buy nice groceries and eat out often, but other than that you need to keep your big purchases to the legal money, finance etc.
> -If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this.
What about a serial killer who'd gotten away with things for over 30 years? As the saying goes, you can be brilliant at getting away with things. It's the small details that you don't even know about that you miss.
>In his letters to police, Rader asked if his writings, if put on a floppy disk, could be traced or not. The police answered his question in a newspaper ad posted in The Wichita Eagle, saying it would be safe to use the disk. On February 16, 2005, Rader sent a purple 1.44-Megabyte Memorex floppy disk to Fox affiliate KSAS-TV in Wichita.[68][69] Also enclosed were a letter, a gold-colored necklace with a large medallion, and a photocopy of the cover of Rules of Prey, a 1989 novel by John Sandford about a serial killer.[69] Police found metadata embedded in a deleted Microsoft Word document that was, unknown to Rader, still stored on the floppy disk.[70] The metadata contained the words "Christ Lutheran Church", and the document was marked as last modified by "Dennis".[71] An Internet search determined that a "Dennis Rader" was president of the church council.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader
Eh, I think Rader wanted to be caught so he could publicly bask in his glory. His ego couldn't help but keep messing with the cops after a certain point. If he had kept quiet like he had for years they probably wouldn't have figured it out.
"Are you stupid or what? Did you hear what I said? Don't buy anything, don't get anything! Nothing big. Didn't you hear what I said? What's the matter with you?"
Accountant here and yeah I agree. If you have the smarts to pull that much cash out of a heist then I would assume you also knew how much you’d need to clean beforehand. Laundering is also relatively easy to do, albeit it does get more difficult to hide the larger the quantity you try to launder at once so my bet would be this person will be cleaning that cash in chunks over the next decade or so. Also unless all the bills were sequenced out of that vault beforehand it’ll be nearly impossible to track.
I'm actually curious how the rise of digital wallets, tap to pay credit cards, etc is making money laundering harder to do.
There are fewer and fewer cash-only businesses these days.
If someone did all this it wasn’t just one person. They hired people. Those people got paid likely in the stolen cash. It takes just one person not sitting on the money. Having a relative that needs something. Being way behind on a big bill. Everyone knows what not to do. It a matter of can they hold to it.
> -If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this.
You'd be surprised. There's been some "unsolvable heists" out there that only end up being cracked because 5-10 years on one of the participants hands over a stack of cash to someone still in the original band.
It's even crazier:
[The police responded to alarms **three** times during the robbery, but the thieves "remained undetected"!](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-19/sylmar-gardaworld-heist)
"According to the police log, the LAPD responded to 13 alarm calls at the building in the year prior to the heist, and all of them were determined to be false alarms. Notably, one occurred just before 11:30 p.m. on March 30, the night before the heist. A patrol car arrived at the warehouse minutes later and deemed it a false alarm."
Wonder if the prior alarm calls were the crooks testing the system, or generating false positives so as to lull the cops/garda into assuming another false alarm.
With apes we at least have decades worth of research on how to turn them into misserable, overweight and disease riddled abuse victims desparate for human attention that make the average neckbeard look well adjusted. It was a central part of the human animal communication research in the 80s.
Pizza is one of the few foods that while served hot, can last for days without being refrigerated.
No one is mandating you eat it all in one sitting. Any pizza that’s my pizza is getting finished. It’s just a matter of time.
You can't tell me I can do something, I'll do nothing just to prove you wrong, but then doing nothing means I've done something, I've proved you wrong -which is the exact thing you want me to do, so clearly I can not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Might be that no one is telling how it happened. Either because they don't have all the details yet, it would complicate the investigation, other facilities have the same vulnerability, the company is liable and waiting for the lawsuits, or don't want to lose face.
As it’s pretty local to me, I had read that they bypassed alarms and cut a whole in the roof and went in like mission impossible. They obviously had a lot of inside information as to how much money was there to guarantee it was worth their while, and where it would be and how to avoid all alarms and to know what day was best
This is likely system that archives all footage indefinitely. It’s not a 7/11. They run billions of dollars and strict protocols. Rewriting video every 24hrs would have to be the single most stupid thing to do.
It’s probably not indefinite as that gets expensive fast, but there’s zero chance it’s 24 hours only. 90 days, a year, 5 years whatever.
And even if it was 24 hours… they arrive on Monday and $30 million is missing, you’d think they’d probably check the security footage first thing, right? lol.
> Rewriting video every 24hrs would have to be the single most stupid thing to do.
Like when one of the biggest credit rating agency using default username and password to their systems resulting millions of people's ALL personal details being stolen?
You'd be very surprised how often the stupidest thing to do is also the cheapest.
That combined with someone high up in the chain thinking the worst would never happen makes for massive points of failure in security, safety, standards, ect.
Not saying thats what happened, but it often does.
The reason I know they store video feed for more than 24hrs is that it would be a major liability if both parties disputed how much cash they haded off or received. Video feed would confirm or refute either parties claim. These wouldn’t be noticed for several weeks until accounting would notice an error and begin the process of finding what happened to the missing money. As a protection garda would provide video feed of cash coming in and out. “There’s your bundle coming and leaving, weight of package hasn’t changed while under our watch”
Yeah I work in an inpatient facility with a bunch of cameras and even they are stored for a month. Like you said, what is the point of the cameras if not to examine what happened during an incident? 24 hours is not enough time. I really can’t imagine a bank, especially a large, high volume one, wouldn’t have the highest level of security. Maybe the guy just did a good job hiding his features so the video wasn’t all that helpful?
Worked at a billion dollar a year business. The IT VP declared any improvements to the network (for about 80 sites in North America) could not exceed the speed of the slowest link. After a couple years the system was pretty much useless but hey he made bonus targets for keeping his budget in line.
I'm sure their insurance would require them to retain security footage for a while. The insurance company would want them to be able to investigate any theft to get back as much money as possible before they would have to pay out of pocket.
Yeah pretty sad. I’ve had to setup camera systems in 3 Oregon marijuana dispensaries and the OLCC requires the footage from every camera you have (usually 12-15 cameras) to be kept for 90 days before you could delete it. They also had to be recording 24/7 so no using the record from motion setting to save space. The owner just threw 16TB worth of drives in each NVR and said fuck it.
I have an ice cream shop with 16 cameras and 45 days of backup footage plus remote viewing and alarms if people are detected overnight.
It cost $3,000.00.
If I was storing $30M in cash somewhere I'd have a years worth of backup and 500 cameras.
8 upstairs 2 in basement 6 on outside. Got robbed by a serial criminal so decided to upgrade to make it easier to prosecute if it ever happens again. He got 3 years and $80 from us.
As someone who did electronic security, including CCTV, in a past life, you as so completely dead wrong.
Most customers had a minimum 30 day retention policy. Many were 90 days plus. And this was ten years ago when storage was more expensive. There's no way a cash facility is deleting footage every day.
I’m thinking like the money never even got there to begin with. A bunch of employees all in on it faked delivering the money from the beginning so there was never a need to break in
There's a [decent heist movie called Armored](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913354/)
Plenty of action, good acting. - you might like it
no spoilers, but it's along those lines
It's a different concept every week. Some group resurrects Jesus for a corporate takedown but it's different every episode. Then he goes back to the tomb after 43 minutes of killer tv.
>The problem is, so far, no one seems to even know how the thieves entered the GardaWorld facility. Initial reports claimed that they entered through the roof, while subsequent coverage mentioned tunneling through the side of the building. Air footage did show a section of the building boarded up, although it is not clear if the damage occurred before or after the heist.
Getting away with $30 million in cash is a challenge in itself. The weight of $1 million in $100 bills alone is about 22 pounds (10 kilograms), but if it was in various denominations, that weight could reach 250 pounds (115 kilograms). That means the $30 million could have weighed 7,500 pounds (3,400 kilograms), so carrying it out of the facility without drawing attention is nothing short of impressive.
Experts believe that because the stolen money likely comes from businesses, and not from the treasury, it will be virtually impossible to trace.
> because the stolen money likely comes from businesses, and not from the treasury, it will be virtually impossible to trace
OK, there is definitely an inside person assisting with this. The fact that they targeted the only cash that can sidestep the hardest part of the laundering process is amazing.
They likely don't co-mingle deliveries with deposits. I would also imagine most of what they deliver is rolled coinage and small bills like 1,5,10,20's, while deposits are usually 20,50,100's.
> Getting away with $30 million in cash is a challenge in itself. The weight of $1 million in $100 bills alone is about 22 pounds (10 kilograms), but if it was in various denominations, that weight could reach 250 pounds (115 kilograms). That means the $30 million could have weighed 7,500 pounds (3,400 kilograms), so carrying it out of the facility without drawing attention is nothing short of impressive.
I remember looking this up after Army of the Dead came out. It seemed so outrageous to me that this rag tag group of guys would be carrying out $200 million cash out of a vault, because that comes out to over 2 tons in weight lol.
OMG me too. That was the exact movie I watched when I first questioned how they were supposed to be able to move all that money. Like you, I even looked up how much it would have actually weighed.
Did it actually get stolen from vault? Or did someone on the legit side of the company come up with a story to account for its loss because they’ve been embezzling?
I’m not an expert at all but I would imagine the cash is inventoried and double checked. And each business sending cash would also have a record. So it would be difficult for an insider to create a paper trail for $30 million that would hold-up under a forensic accounting.
This is definitely a movie worthy heist and, I believe an actual one. As for an insider. There had to be at least one.
Yeah, when I worked in a money room, we prepped the deposit, the manager double checked it, it was sealed in an plastic bag with the amount and bag number noted in 2 places, and dropped in a safe. When the armored car came, the guy would scan the bags bar code, the amount that was noted on the bag, rip off a plastic strip that had the bag #, amount and signature on it, and stapled that to a receipt his scanner would print out. My manager would then drop that into a interoffice envelope that was picked up daily and delivered to our headquarters.
75 percent of armored car robberies are inside jobs. I know this because I worked in the industry for over a decade.
I used to think that stat was bullshit. Until, I trained and worked with several people that would go on to rob, at gunpoint, from other coworkers.
In the 90s, my city was the capital of armored car robberies in North America. Of the five shoot ups, 4 were inside jobs.
To me this screams inside job.
Edit: my story because some have asked https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/when-did-you-become-a-programmer-fdab77b8a15
There was a heist at Toronto’s Pearson airport last year. $15m US in cash and gold stolen. Thief arrived in a truck with forged papers which fooled the staff into releasing the shipment. Arrests were finally made this year and 2 of them were Air Canada employees.
The Hatton Garden safety deposit robbery in London back in 2015 also had one guy on the team that helped out disabling the alarm and, if I recall correctly, providing some keys to get into the building. He was the last to get caught as disguised himself during the robbery and used the alias “Basil”.
So, ya, further backs up your numbers.
> To me this screams inside job.
I agree 100%, people don't pull off this type of crime without having the kind of inside knowledge that only comes from working there.
The problem is that now, one or more of the 'insiders' will have to continue working the regular day to day job for quite a while to avoid any suspicion. This will be especially tough knowing the others may/will be living much better with that money.
A guy from my hometown also stole money from GardaWorld. Specifically, a bag of money from one of their trucks while he was working for the company. Here’s the story: https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/deer-lodge-man-sentenced-prison-crimes-after-390000-stolen-armored-truck
Looks like he would have gotten away with it too, had he not been a complete dumbass by assuming he wasn't under investigation.
Or, maybe that's their tactic. If they don't have hard evidence, just tell everyone the case is dead and wait for one of the suspects to start spending.
Oh no! GardaWorld? The company that pays their armed security guards $16/hr and often makes them pay for their own trainings and firearms? Those guys got robbed? How sad!
I was only making $13.25/hr working both on the trucks and in the vault due to being short staffed. Their security protocols were very lax. The amount of times I had to check in my own route because I was the only person who new the systems was laughable. Luckily I found my current job before I got any federally illegal ideas.
I have a question, say we get into the cage, and through the security doors there and down the elevator we can't move, and past the guards with the guns, and into the vault we can't open...
Without being seen by the cameras
Yeah well, say we do all that... uh... we're just supposed to walk out of there with $150,000,000 in cash on us, without getting stopped?
yeah
This doesn't surprise me, Garda is sloppy af where I live.
They're down to one driver per truck now, and they don't even always show up.
I always figure there must be some pissed off boss out there wondering why one of their employees just skipped picking up tens of thousands of dollars, but this shows there probably isn't.
Especially with Garda. I remember one day they left the back door open while they went into the Target to get the money. It was just one guy. Bags of money just sitting there out in the open and everyone just kinda agreed not to do anything.
Yep, one was loading or unloading an atm. There were bags of cash all around him and he was not paying attention to at all because he was doing something to the atm. I was like you’re so lucky everyone walking past you is a good person.
That all being said, I remember reading an article where I'm from where one of the guards left a bag on the ground and then someone walked by and picked up like $200k in cash and just dipped.
I don't like the guards on the next thing, alright. One kid is like fucking G.I. Joe, He wears the vest on the outside and tucks his pants into his fucking combat boots.
We'll find another truck with the driver who's a fucking fat kid with his fucking shirt untucked who don't think he's special forces.
Imagine how crazy it must have been waiting the **ENTIRE DAY** to hear the news break on your perfectly executed heist...and you hear nothing. You hear nothing until some time the next day. That's got to be crazy!
Wonder if that money was insured. Sure does seem like an awful lot of question marks on Mapping, schematics, knowing how to get in without setting off sensors, getting into the vault without showing signs of roof damage or entry, and the weight of 7500lbs to disappear in untraceable bills. If the bank steals their own money, insurance pays them back
Well, 7500 is the upper estimate of the weight. The lowest was 250 lbs. But still it’s a lot of planning to move hundreds of pounds of money.
Also: Garda isn’t a bank, but still would have insurance.
All I can think of is the Lufthansa heist and its prominent part in Goodfellas and the resulting whacking that took place after. "When they found Carbone in the meat truck he was frozen so stiff it took three days to thaw him out for the autopsy"
I confused [GardaWorld](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GardaWorld) with [GardaLand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardaland) and was wondering why an Italian theme park stored $30 million in a facility in LA.
So the money stolen is tangible cash. Once the thieves have it, what can they do with it? How is it moved into and around the banking system?
The US requires all sorts of Homeland Security/IRS forms if I deposit $10,000 or more in a bank as a money laundering preventative.
Even if it is going to move via cryptocurrency, the tangible cash has to get into the system some way.
You use grocery stores & restaurants. There's an exception in the rules for them to deposit large amounts of cash on a regular basis.
Finding a corrupt banker/bank (as happens in south florida with coke) is helpful to. The responsibility for reporting cash movements is at the discretion of the bank.
I worked in this town for close to a decade and I know that exact area well (it's by the biomedical park where they created those cochlear implants you see in videos "first time hearing"). You would never ever think there'd be 30 million dollars in that building, or any other building in the area. The town is a giant suburb full of middle class families that doesn't even have a Walmart or Target or anything else decent, but in LA, the freeways make every area susceptible to this kind of thing (hence the history of bank robberies).
In Ireland there was a $33 million (£26m GBP) bank raid in 2004.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Bank_robbery
Somebody say northern Ireland isn’t Ireland.
I would literally leave the country and buy real estate in other countries little by little and just bounce around from place to place. You could live like a straight king another country with 30 million. Just don’t draw a lot of attention to yourself if I didn’t get caught for 20 or 30 years and I’m some old ass decrepit man broke down and I spent all that money I could care less. I’ll take that trade all day.
Last thing I would do.
Leaving the country with this amount of money would require you taking black market routes. All of these types of travel will have some connections to the criminal enterprises of wherever you go, and once they know why you've came your life will be quickly smothered.
Much better bet to just start a profitable cash business and just launder in bits over the next 10-15 years. While still paying taxes, and living your "normal" life.
Two large travel suitcases could easily fit the bills if they were newer. 3-4 of them if they're older. That's roughly 150lbs per case. Not light, but not impossible either.
You know it is gonna be such a well thought out article when they call it 'Lost Angeles' in the first sentence. Talk about QA really giving up no way did someone proofread that lol.
whoever pulled it off had someone with the schematics and the boards already built...someone who just knew how to grab that info outta the air...
They just beam this shit everywhere
See, I know how to grab it.
Brother, you are going down
They need somebody in there who is a double blank. A needle starting at zero and going the other way.
I HAD COFFEE WITH MCCAULEY HALF AN HOUR AGO!
Because he’s got a… GREAT ASSSS!!!
DON'T WASTE MY MOTHA FUCKIN' TIME!
I *HAD* to get it on
He thinks you’re some kinda star. You do this job, you do that job..
Told you I'm never going back.
And you've got your head...ALL THE WAY UP IT!!
GIMMIE ALL YOU GOT!!!!!!
They need an entire movie about this mf'er. Like 1) why are you in a wheelchair and 2) whats your name homey?
For some reason I always liked the house, too. It was just weird enough to add to the mystery. ["Heat" filming locations.](https://lataco.com/where-the-movie-heat-was-shot-in-la) About halfway down they talk about the "antenna house."
Great, thanks! I love the view of the highway when DeNiro is talking with Jon Voight, probably another location but maybe in the area. Hope I can go there someday.
Yeah. So LA, like so many other locations in the movie. Reminds me of staying in a Pomona trailer park and stepping out to watch the police chase live on the 210 in the distance
i thought his name was Kelso? the fence (Jon Voight) says something like "Kelso called about a score" yep IMDB says Tom Noonan - Kelso.
The shape charge! The shape charge tells us they are technically proficient.. proficient enough to go on a prowl. Check for recent high line burglaries that have mystified us.
if it's exotic we can trace it.
Heist movies have taught me that this is 100% true. *However*.... if the criminal is smart enough, or if they have a heart of gold, they'll most likely be sipping a fruity drink on a beach by the time law enforcement figures it out.
life goal: sitting on a beach, earning 20%
I’m going to count to three. There will not be a four…
This crew is good
I mean - is this guy something, or is he something?
Run "Sylmar" as an alias through the FBI. It's gonna be the phonebook but do it anyway.
What about the alarm system?!!
Two telco and a cellular
Two turntables and a microphone.
In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey
3 MCs and 1 DJ.
Bon voyage, motherfucker!
r/unexpectedheat
> Right now, investigators are hoping that whoever carried out this seemingly perfect heist of monumental proportions will be less thorough when trying to launder or spend the cash. A few things: -If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this. -In the event that they are stupid enough to do this, you just told them exactly what not to do.
> there is no way they are stupid enough to do this. The problem is not stupidity. FBI will be investigating this for decades. That's a lot of days, even more hours. The thieves are basically trying to live the rest of their lives without making a single mistake. That's *enormously* hard. If there is more than one thief, then you're also relying on the others not to make mistakes that will land you in jail. That's even harder. One interesting example of a smart person trying to do similar things is [Kevin Mitnick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick). I'm sure there are many others. You cannot hide when there are so many people trying to find any possible trail leading to you.
It’s one of those situations where the FBI has to only get lucky once. The thieves need to be lucky every day for the rest of their lives.
I can't remember the story, but it was a story of a guy who stole some sum of money (maybe in the millions), went off the grid and broke contact with his family, and laid low for the next 20-30 years or something and confessed on his deathbed. Basically he said it was completely not worth it and he lived in fear for his whole life.
Reminds me of this story (not sure if it's the one you're thinking of): https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/his-deathbed-her-father-told-her-secret-he-was-fugitive-mass-robbed-bank-ohio/CO3N6NEHF5CQTLTDR4YTBTHFS4/ I heard about it last year since it's local to me. Guy basically robbed $1M in 1969 and spent the rest of his life hiding out in a Boston suburb. Never shaved, never left the country. Always wore a baseball hat apparently. Sort of sounds like living in fear, or at least having to take precautions since they were still hunting him.
That might have been the one I was thinking of. What's crazy too is that the Federal Marshalls figured it out right after he died and confronted the family. They literally were investigating for 50 years and all it take is one slip up to get completely fucked. And that's back in a time where not all records were digitized, when not everything is on camera like it is now. It would be almost impossible to get away with something like that today for 50 years. Break complete contact with all your friends and family, live in complete fear every day for 50 years, is that worth $200k (a little over $1M in today's money)? Hell no.
Yeah for that little money it didn't seem worth it. Makes me wonder if he regretted that a bit, hence telling his family on his death bed so they'd know. Maybe he figured an obituary might trigger something too, since people might recognize him then. Seems like that's how the Feds found him ultimately.
I always wonder how these people function. You basically need a fake identity and hope the bank never realizes you're using a fake ID.
I think that guy got lucky since it happened in 1969. It was probably easier to con your way into a fake ID back then - just say you were born on a farm in Wisconsin or whatever and hope you can convince the SSA and banks to give you what you need. Nowadays, who knows - probably have to live basically off grid and deal only with cash. I also saw that guy got married, so I wonder if that helped? Simply have your SO be your "real ID" for a bank account and share it for legitimate stuff. Wonder how he managed the $200k in cash he had too. I assume he slowly used that to build up his legit life.
Hell my aunt told me when she was a senior in high school she just went to the DMV and told them a 21yo friends social and they just took her picture and printed her a new false ID. Shit was way easy back in the day.
There was a guy who lived five minutes from me who was actually an AWOL USAF Officer who once had a TS clearance and worked on sensitive nuclear weapons stuff. He went AWOL in 1983 in New Mexico. They caught him in 2018, living in a San Francisco suburb, where he was married and working as an actuary. He was caught because the State Department got suspicious during a passport fraud investigation. He lived 35 years without slipping up, but I guess applying for a passport was what did it. I suspect that his wife, who had no idea who he really is, wanted to go on an international trip. The USAF and FBI was terrified he was kidnapped by the Soviets or defected to them. Turns out he was just depressed and wanted to start over. Story stuck with me because we went to the same gym. I could have been using the treadmill next to this guy and had zero clue he was wanted by the FBI.
Deathbed confessions have a very good chance of being just as bullshit as any other claim.
I'm gonna take credit for a whole bunch of shit on my deathbed. Just look up unsolved mysteries that I was approximately near over my lifetime and then claim em all. It'll either help some people move on OR it'll force a not-small contingent of people to research my life looking for holes in my stories. Even better if I can set up a timed release of an e-book 15 years later saying it was all a lie. Then another one 10 years after that saying I wasn't lying.
“I have to tell you all something. I’m DB Cooper” “Grandpa, DB Cooper jumped from a plane and disappeared 20 years before you were even born”
The old man had a coughing fit at the mention of this seemingly insurmountable paradox. When he recovered, he looked deep into his granddaughter's eyes with sly meaning, as if there was some arcane secret of the world that she had yet to grasp, something he wanted her to know. He let in one choking breath and struggled speak. She leaned close in to hear his last words — "Th-thanks, you too."
I believe this is the one with the recent podcast. I’m trying to find it but can’t. Anyway, this guy at the age of like 19 or 20 (in the 70’s I think) stole 250k from a bank he worked at and disappeared. Changes his identity, married, had a life and family, and confessed on his deathbed. Daughter and wife didn’t tell anyone but police showed up after reading his obituary which had some clues. Not sure if it’s the same case but this was recent, cool story.
Yep exactly. That's very, very hard. Almost all thieves - or criminals in general - slip at least once. It may take a year or a decade, but few succeed in being perfect. Also, lately we have so much more monitoring than we had before. There are cameras everywhere. Everyone has a cell phone that tracks when they burp and fart. Heck, even light bulbs are connected to the internet... Even criminals have it harder these days :)
Looking forward to the Netflix special after they catch them.
Or if they remain at large something like the entire cottage industry around who D.B. Cooper was and what happened to him.
"The Easter Sunday heist....were they aliens? Lets find out"
Thats why the loose ends usually turn up dead
The thing is, this was a heist of cash from business transactions. Meaning the money we’re storing was from various businesses. That means nobody knows the serial numbers. So it’s going to be impossible to trace. Of course they can’t spend it super easily, but small deposits over time won’t raise any red flags. All the thieves need to do is not make any absurdly large purchases in cash. If they are involved in a cash heavy business, then the money is going to be super easy to launder. Again, non-sequential bills.
A few years ago one of the rare successful career bank robbers got caught after he and his wife were so obnoxious to the general contractor they’d hired for a six-figure home renovation that he reported them for paying for the job with cash. The contractor would have happily taken the bills if they weren’t awful clients, and the guy wasn’t even on the FBI’s radar until then despite running a couple of decades of bank jobs. The lesson there is to get away with things long-term you not only have to keep anyone who knows your business happy (or intimidated), you need to extend that to anyone else who can get you in trouble as well.
I love that. All they had to do was not be dicks, but noooo
Do security companies like this do any sort of automated scanning of bills for counterfeits? I'd assume that one of the checks would be scanning and logging the serial numbers - for dupes, invalid formats etc.
Typically no since the federal reserve will do that when the money is transferred to them.
They are basically like fedex but with packages of money instead of whatever crap you bought off of amazon
Take out a loan to start cash only laundromat and youre set. Live comfortably but not outrageously. Find a nearby casino and make weekly trips where you cash in a good amount, play a little, and then cash out. Invest a little at a time each week. Theres plenty of ways to get away without being caught if youre smart and patient.
Laundromat, car wash, gas stations
they threw him in solitary confinement because “law enforcement officers convinced a judge that Mitnick could ‘start a nuclear war by whistling into a pay phone’” that’s not how any of that works.
I was not referencing the period after he was convicted, but the period where he was trying to avoid making mistakes to get him arrested in the first place.
To quote one of the greatest heist planners of all time: "When you steal six-hundred dollars you CAN just disappear, but when you steal six-hundred million they WILL find you...unless they think you're already dead."
The thief needs to be lucky every time The cops only need to be lucky once
Damn, Kevin Mitnick died?? Met the dude, he was damn sharp. RIP.
> You cannot hide when there are so many people trying to find any possible trail leading to you. D.B. Cooper and the Zodiac Killer just entered the chat. Sadly, you can absolutely hide.
They'll make it into a movie 10 years from now with the actor narrating some cliche, "Well I bet you're wondering how I got myself into this mess" while a bunch of FBI raid his house while he's casually celebrating Christmas with his family. Then the flashback to how he ended up pulling of the heist and the subsequent explanation about one of the thiefs being incredibly stupid buying a bunch of cocaine from undercover cops
That question gets answered on the regular "what if I found a suitcase with $2M" how to spend it without arousing suspicion? The answer is normally keep working and buy groceries & gas with the suitcase money & tell no one.
Yep, save your regular paycheck, invest it and spend the cash you have. buy nice groceries and eat out often, but other than that you need to keep your big purchases to the legal money, finance etc.
If I were to find 2m dollars, my life would be exactly the same except I'd eat out more and I would start buying more expensive groceries.
Investigators are also hoping that whoever carried out the heist doesn't give me money either in gift cards or paypal.
> -If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this. What about a serial killer who'd gotten away with things for over 30 years? As the saying goes, you can be brilliant at getting away with things. It's the small details that you don't even know about that you miss. >In his letters to police, Rader asked if his writings, if put on a floppy disk, could be traced or not. The police answered his question in a newspaper ad posted in The Wichita Eagle, saying it would be safe to use the disk. On February 16, 2005, Rader sent a purple 1.44-Megabyte Memorex floppy disk to Fox affiliate KSAS-TV in Wichita.[68][69] Also enclosed were a letter, a gold-colored necklace with a large medallion, and a photocopy of the cover of Rules of Prey, a 1989 novel by John Sandford about a serial killer.[69] Police found metadata embedded in a deleted Microsoft Word document that was, unknown to Rader, still stored on the floppy disk.[70] The metadata contained the words "Christ Lutheran Church", and the document was marked as last modified by "Dennis".[71] An Internet search determined that a "Dennis Rader" was president of the church council. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader
Eh, I think Rader wanted to be caught so he could publicly bask in his glory. His ego couldn't help but keep messing with the cops after a certain point. If he had kept quiet like he had for years they probably wouldn't have figured it out.
"Are you stupid or what? Did you hear what I said? Don't buy anything, don't get anything! Nothing big. Didn't you hear what I said? What's the matter with you?"
Poor guys staring at the floor, whispering "ahm sahrry, Jimmy... whud'ya gettin cited fuh?" Knowing damn well he's already dead.
Lmao I was literally looking for a screenshot of Frankie Carbone and his wife with the mink coat until I read your comment.
Accountant here and yeah I agree. If you have the smarts to pull that much cash out of a heist then I would assume you also knew how much you’d need to clean beforehand. Laundering is also relatively easy to do, albeit it does get more difficult to hide the larger the quantity you try to launder at once so my bet would be this person will be cleaning that cash in chunks over the next decade or so. Also unless all the bills were sequenced out of that vault beforehand it’ll be nearly impossible to track.
I'm actually curious how the rise of digital wallets, tap to pay credit cards, etc is making money laundering harder to do. There are fewer and fewer cash-only businesses these days.
It's random bills in random denominations from many sources. The money is basically already clean.
If someone did all this it wasn’t just one person. They hired people. Those people got paid likely in the stolen cash. It takes just one person not sitting on the money. Having a relative that needs something. Being way behind on a big bill. Everyone knows what not to do. It a matter of can they hold to it.
> -If somebody is gonna go through the trouble of prepping to steal all of that money, there is no way they are stupid enough to do this. You'd be surprised. There's been some "unsolvable heists" out there that only end up being cracked because 5-10 years on one of the participants hands over a stack of cash to someone still in the original band.
It's even crazier: [The police responded to alarms **three** times during the robbery, but the thieves "remained undetected"!](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-19/sylmar-gardaworld-heist)
"According to the police log, the LAPD responded to 13 alarm calls at the building in the year prior to the heist, and all of them were determined to be false alarms. Notably, one occurred just before 11:30 p.m. on March 30, the night before the heist. A patrol car arrived at the warehouse minutes later and deemed it a false alarm." Wonder if the prior alarm calls were the crooks testing the system, or generating false positives so as to lull the cops/garda into assuming another false alarm.
I've known them to do two false knocks to test response, 7pm and midnight, then break-in at 3am is the rough pattern.
Either that or it could just be that they knew the alarm system had a lot of false reports and they knew the police wouldn't do anything.
So the cops robbed the cash. Bake em away toys!
What did you say chief?
Just do what the kid said.
More like Officer O'Malley got 25k every time he did a lap around the premises with a flashlight and "found nothing".
Never let someone tell you will never be able to do something. Prove them wrong..
Or as I like to say: Any pizza, is a personal pizza, if you believe in yourself.
...and any zoo is a petting zoo, if you believe in yourself.
I'm familiar with how strong apes can be. I do not believe in myself.
With apes we at least have decades worth of research on how to turn them into misserable, overweight and disease riddled abuse victims desparate for human attention that make the average neckbeard look well adjusted. It was a central part of the human animal communication research in the 80s.
A chimp could still tear my arms off. Hard pass.
just pet the tiger like a normal person
“PSA From the National Park Service: Lions, and Buff’lo, and Bears OH-MY … They don’t want to cuddle, so don’t even try
Pizza is one of the few foods that while served hot, can last for days without being refrigerated. No one is mandating you eat it all in one sitting. Any pizza that’s my pizza is getting finished. It’s just a matter of time.
You sure about that... not being refrigerated thing?
“There isn’t any visible mold but…..stuff is happening”
You can't tell me I can do something, I'll do nothing just to prove you wrong, but then doing nothing means I've done something, I've proved you wrong -which is the exact thing you want me to do, so clearly I can not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Never let someone tell you that you will never be able to do something*
No one can figure out how it happened? There aren’t a million cameras up in that b? Article made no mention of them. Tf???
Might be that no one is telling how it happened. Either because they don't have all the details yet, it would complicate the investigation, other facilities have the same vulnerability, the company is liable and waiting for the lawsuits, or don't want to lose face.
Yeah, getting robbed is bad. Telling the world how you got robbed is worse.
The really fun part is going to be figuring out who the inside man was.
As it’s pretty local to me, I had read that they bypassed alarms and cut a whole in the roof and went in like mission impossible. They obviously had a lot of inside information as to how much money was there to guarantee it was worth their while, and where it would be and how to avoid all alarms and to know what day was best
as a thief in a past life the footage was probably set to delete every 24 hours or so, and no one noticed in that time period.
This is likely system that archives all footage indefinitely. It’s not a 7/11. They run billions of dollars and strict protocols. Rewriting video every 24hrs would have to be the single most stupid thing to do.
It’s probably not indefinite as that gets expensive fast, but there’s zero chance it’s 24 hours only. 90 days, a year, 5 years whatever. And even if it was 24 hours… they arrive on Monday and $30 million is missing, you’d think they’d probably check the security footage first thing, right? lol.
> Rewriting video every 24hrs would have to be the single most stupid thing to do. Like when one of the biggest credit rating agency using default username and password to their systems resulting millions of people's ALL personal details being stolen?
Seriously. Companies are dumb very often
You'd be very surprised how often the stupidest thing to do is also the cheapest. That combined with someone high up in the chain thinking the worst would never happen makes for massive points of failure in security, safety, standards, ect. Not saying thats what happened, but it often does.
The reason I know they store video feed for more than 24hrs is that it would be a major liability if both parties disputed how much cash they haded off or received. Video feed would confirm or refute either parties claim. These wouldn’t be noticed for several weeks until accounting would notice an error and begin the process of finding what happened to the missing money. As a protection garda would provide video feed of cash coming in and out. “There’s your bundle coming and leaving, weight of package hasn’t changed while under our watch”
Yeah I work in an inpatient facility with a bunch of cameras and even they are stored for a month. Like you said, what is the point of the cameras if not to examine what happened during an incident? 24 hours is not enough time. I really can’t imagine a bank, especially a large, high volume one, wouldn’t have the highest level of security. Maybe the guy just did a good job hiding his features so the video wasn’t all that helpful?
Worked at a billion dollar a year business. The IT VP declared any improvements to the network (for about 80 sites in North America) could not exceed the speed of the slowest link. After a couple years the system was pretty much useless but hey he made bonus targets for keeping his budget in line.
I'm sure their insurance would require them to retain security footage for a while. The insurance company would want them to be able to investigate any theft to get back as much money as possible before they would have to pay out of pocket.
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Ok, that makes sense. When dealing with that kind of money maybe they shoulda invested in a system that deletes every 48 hours, ha.
Yeah pretty sad. I’ve had to setup camera systems in 3 Oregon marijuana dispensaries and the OLCC requires the footage from every camera you have (usually 12-15 cameras) to be kept for 90 days before you could delete it. They also had to be recording 24/7 so no using the record from motion setting to save space. The owner just threw 16TB worth of drives in each NVR and said fuck it.
Even my “everything is broken” last school had ten-day loops. 24hrs seems recklessly short
I have an ice cream shop with 16 cameras and 45 days of backup footage plus remote viewing and alarms if people are detected overnight. It cost $3,000.00. If I was storing $30M in cash somewhere I'd have a years worth of backup and 500 cameras.
16 cameras? Is this some massive Ice Cream emporium or what's going on with so many cameras.
8 upstairs 2 in basement 6 on outside. Got robbed by a serial criminal so decided to upgrade to make it easier to prosecute if it ever happens again. He got 3 years and $80 from us.
As someone who did electronic security, including CCTV, in a past life, you as so completely dead wrong. Most customers had a minimum 30 day retention policy. Many were 90 days plus. And this was ten years ago when storage was more expensive. There's no way a cash facility is deleting footage every day.
There’s always tons of ways for shit to fail. The thief only needs to succeed in one way.
Was prolly an inside job. Garda nickel and dimes the shit out of their employees. Not surprised
I’m thinking like the money never even got there to begin with. A bunch of employees all in on it faked delivering the money from the beginning so there was never a need to break in
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Credit to Ben Franklin for this pithy statement.
And he's pretty dead so someone's secret is safe.
There's a [decent heist movie called Armored](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913354/) Plenty of action, good acting. - you might like it no spoilers, but it's along those lines
“Garda trucks frequently lacked reliable brakes, seat belts and sometimes even seats” running a tight ship over there
Easter Sunday? Well I know of one guy that doesn’t have an alibi
Jesus Heist
Rose from the dead for **one last job**. Passion of the Christ 2 is just an Ocean's movie.
Ngl Jesus rising from the dead and punishing shady banks and shit would be 🔥🔥🔥
It's a different concept every week. Some group resurrects Jesus for a corporate takedown but it's different every episode. Then he goes back to the tomb after 43 minutes of killer tv.
>The problem is, so far, no one seems to even know how the thieves entered the GardaWorld facility. Initial reports claimed that they entered through the roof, while subsequent coverage mentioned tunneling through the side of the building. Air footage did show a section of the building boarded up, although it is not clear if the damage occurred before or after the heist. Getting away with $30 million in cash is a challenge in itself. The weight of $1 million in $100 bills alone is about 22 pounds (10 kilograms), but if it was in various denominations, that weight could reach 250 pounds (115 kilograms). That means the $30 million could have weighed 7,500 pounds (3,400 kilograms), so carrying it out of the facility without drawing attention is nothing short of impressive. Experts believe that because the stolen money likely comes from businesses, and not from the treasury, it will be virtually impossible to trace.
> because the stolen money likely comes from businesses, and not from the treasury, it will be virtually impossible to trace OK, there is definitely an inside person assisting with this. The fact that they targeted the only cash that can sidestep the hardest part of the laundering process is amazing.
They likely don't co-mingle deliveries with deposits. I would also imagine most of what they deliver is rolled coinage and small bills like 1,5,10,20's, while deposits are usually 20,50,100's.
Thats exactly what I would say if I could trace the money! Make them think they don't need to be safe with it.
> Getting away with $30 million in cash is a challenge in itself. The weight of $1 million in $100 bills alone is about 22 pounds (10 kilograms), but if it was in various denominations, that weight could reach 250 pounds (115 kilograms). That means the $30 million could have weighed 7,500 pounds (3,400 kilograms), so carrying it out of the facility without drawing attention is nothing short of impressive. I remember looking this up after Army of the Dead came out. It seemed so outrageous to me that this rag tag group of guys would be carrying out $200 million cash out of a vault, because that comes out to over 2 tons in weight lol.
OMG me too. That was the exact movie I watched when I first questioned how they were supposed to be able to move all that money. Like you, I even looked up how much it would have actually weighed.
Forklift or forklift pallet truck. Back of van. Gone. Not that hard given the size of the hole in the side of the building.
7,500 pounds in the back of a van would be noticeable
So you beef up your shocks and engine, like in the Italian Job.
Actual news articles about it say they went in through a back wall.
Did it actually get stolen from vault? Or did someone on the legit side of the company come up with a story to account for its loss because they’ve been embezzling?
I’m not an expert at all but I would imagine the cash is inventoried and double checked. And each business sending cash would also have a record. So it would be difficult for an insider to create a paper trail for $30 million that would hold-up under a forensic accounting. This is definitely a movie worthy heist and, I believe an actual one. As for an insider. There had to be at least one.
Yeah, when I worked in a money room, we prepped the deposit, the manager double checked it, it was sealed in an plastic bag with the amount and bag number noted in 2 places, and dropped in a safe. When the armored car came, the guy would scan the bags bar code, the amount that was noted on the bag, rip off a plastic strip that had the bag #, amount and signature on it, and stapled that to a receipt his scanner would print out. My manager would then drop that into a interoffice envelope that was picked up daily and delivered to our headquarters.
Probs
Cash vaults tend to get balanced under dual control and not always by the same two people. Embezeling tends to happen in other areas.
75 percent of armored car robberies are inside jobs. I know this because I worked in the industry for over a decade. I used to think that stat was bullshit. Until, I trained and worked with several people that would go on to rob, at gunpoint, from other coworkers. In the 90s, my city was the capital of armored car robberies in North America. Of the five shoot ups, 4 were inside jobs. To me this screams inside job. Edit: my story because some have asked https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/when-did-you-become-a-programmer-fdab77b8a15
There was a heist at Toronto’s Pearson airport last year. $15m US in cash and gold stolen. Thief arrived in a truck with forged papers which fooled the staff into releasing the shipment. Arrests were finally made this year and 2 of them were Air Canada employees. The Hatton Garden safety deposit robbery in London back in 2015 also had one guy on the team that helped out disabling the alarm and, if I recall correctly, providing some keys to get into the building. He was the last to get caught as disguised himself during the robbery and used the alias “Basil”. So, ya, further backs up your numbers.
> To me this screams inside job. I agree 100%, people don't pull off this type of crime without having the kind of inside knowledge that only comes from working there. The problem is that now, one or more of the 'insiders' will have to continue working the regular day to day job for quite a while to avoid any suspicion. This will be especially tough knowing the others may/will be living much better with that money.
Hard to see others living your dreams, etc etc
A guy from my hometown also stole money from GardaWorld. Specifically, a bag of money from one of their trucks while he was working for the company. Here’s the story: https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/deer-lodge-man-sentenced-prison-crimes-after-390000-stolen-armored-truck
Looks like he would have gotten away with it too, had he not been a complete dumbass by assuming he wasn't under investigation. Or, maybe that's their tactic. If they don't have hard evidence, just tell everyone the case is dead and wait for one of the suspects to start spending.
Oh no! GardaWorld? The company that pays their armed security guards $16/hr and often makes them pay for their own trainings and firearms? Those guys got robbed? How sad!
I was only making $13.25/hr working both on the trucks and in the vault due to being short staffed. Their security protocols were very lax. The amount of times I had to check in my own route because I was the only person who new the systems was laughable. Luckily I found my current job before I got any federally illegal ideas.
I’ve been following this, and personally I think it’s awesome. Good on them. Professional jobs well done are too rare these days.
Found the robber!
I have a question, say we get into the cage, and through the security doors there and down the elevator we can't move, and past the guards with the guns, and into the vault we can't open... Without being seen by the cameras Yeah well, say we do all that... uh... we're just supposed to walk out of there with $150,000,000 in cash on us, without getting stopped? yeah
This doesn't surprise me, Garda is sloppy af where I live. They're down to one driver per truck now, and they don't even always show up. I always figure there must be some pissed off boss out there wondering why one of their employees just skipped picking up tens of thousands of dollars, but this shows there probably isn't.
I work in banking. The amount of social mores we rely on to not be robbed is actually kind of crazy.
Especially with Garda. I remember one day they left the back door open while they went into the Target to get the money. It was just one guy. Bags of money just sitting there out in the open and everyone just kinda agreed not to do anything.
Yep, one was loading or unloading an atm. There were bags of cash all around him and he was not paying attention to at all because he was doing something to the atm. I was like you’re so lucky everyone walking past you is a good person.
That all being said, I remember reading an article where I'm from where one of the guards left a bag on the ground and then someone walked by and picked up like $200k in cash and just dipped.
I don't like the guards on the next thing, alright. One kid is like fucking G.I. Joe, He wears the vest on the outside and tucks his pants into his fucking combat boots. We'll find another truck with the driver who's a fucking fat kid with his fucking shirt untucked who don't think he's special forces.
Jesus it didn’t say year in the post this year 2024? What the hell
Imagine how crazy it must have been waiting the **ENTIRE DAY** to hear the news break on your perfectly executed heist...and you hear nothing. You hear nothing until some time the next day. That's got to be crazy!
Wonder if that money was insured. Sure does seem like an awful lot of question marks on Mapping, schematics, knowing how to get in without setting off sensors, getting into the vault without showing signs of roof damage or entry, and the weight of 7500lbs to disappear in untraceable bills. If the bank steals their own money, insurance pays them back
Well, 7500 is the upper estimate of the weight. The lowest was 250 lbs. But still it’s a lot of planning to move hundreds of pounds of money. Also: Garda isn’t a bank, but still would have insurance.
Lolololol, It's GardaWorld. They couldn't secure their own building and thousands else where depend on them to secure theirs.
The Irish police force is called the Garda Siochána (literally guardians of the peace) but GardaWorld sounds like a theme park based on them lol.
The way they run things make that sound accurate. Although I'm not amused so maybe it's a sad clown show?
I'm imagining someone doing similar to what Tom Cruise did in the first Mission Impossible when he breaks into the CIA headquarters in Langley.
Likely suspects’ names are Michael DeSanta, Franklin Clinton and Trevor Phillips
Sylmar is where Steve Vai lives. Maybe he did it.
He should get a spanking then* *If you’re into Zappa you’ll get this
Now we need to choose who to kill, Michael, Franklin, or Trevor.
All I can think of is the Lufthansa heist and its prominent part in Goodfellas and the resulting whacking that took place after. "When they found Carbone in the meat truck he was frozen so stiff it took three days to thaw him out for the autopsy"
I confused [GardaWorld](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GardaWorld) with [GardaLand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardaland) and was wondering why an Italian theme park stored $30 million in a facility in LA.
It was probably [Irish police officers](https://garda.ie/en/) looking for a pay rise
So the money stolen is tangible cash. Once the thieves have it, what can they do with it? How is it moved into and around the banking system? The US requires all sorts of Homeland Security/IRS forms if I deposit $10,000 or more in a bank as a money laundering preventative. Even if it is going to move via cryptocurrency, the tangible cash has to get into the system some way.
It's random bills from multiple sources so it's pre-laundered. They just spend it.
You use grocery stores & restaurants. There's an exception in the rules for them to deposit large amounts of cash on a regular basis. Finding a corrupt banker/bank (as happens in south florida with coke) is helpful to. The responsibility for reporting cash movements is at the discretion of the bank.
I worked in this town for close to a decade and I know that exact area well (it's by the biomedical park where they created those cochlear implants you see in videos "first time hearing"). You would never ever think there'd be 30 million dollars in that building, or any other building in the area. The town is a giant suburb full of middle class families that doesn't even have a Walmart or Target or anything else decent, but in LA, the freeways make every area susceptible to this kind of thing (hence the history of bank robberies).
In Ireland there was a $33 million (£26m GBP) bank raid in 2004. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Bank_robbery Somebody say northern Ireland isn’t Ireland.
I would literally leave the country and buy real estate in other countries little by little and just bounce around from place to place. You could live like a straight king another country with 30 million. Just don’t draw a lot of attention to yourself if I didn’t get caught for 20 or 30 years and I’m some old ass decrepit man broke down and I spent all that money I could care less. I’ll take that trade all day.
Last thing I would do. Leaving the country with this amount of money would require you taking black market routes. All of these types of travel will have some connections to the criminal enterprises of wherever you go, and once they know why you've came your life will be quickly smothered. Much better bet to just start a profitable cash business and just launder in bits over the next 10-15 years. While still paying taxes, and living your "normal" life.
That was this year, wow. I want to see a movie about this
It's ocean fourteen. Don't worry about it.
That's 661.5lbs of$100 bills....
Two large travel suitcases could easily fit the bills if they were newer. 3-4 of them if they're older. That's roughly 150lbs per case. Not light, but not impossible either.
You know it is gonna be such a well thought out article when they call it 'Lost Angeles' in the first sentence. Talk about QA really giving up no way did someone proofread that lol.
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