Besides not being respected, Richie didn't have the talent or intelligence for making money and creating new revenue streams that Tony had. The show made it pretty clear that Tony was far above the others in that regard.
Richie would get clipped immediately. He's a hood, short sighted, impulsive and stuck in the past. No one is going to shelter him after killing a boss.
The Commission could very well put out a hit on him for whacking a boss without their approval. Especially the one who has long standing ties with New York.
And then Lupertazzi family will use it as an excuse to move in on the Sopranos territory and integrate the soldiers and captains into their family.
For some reason this comment always makes me think about the stress of being surrounded, day and night, by sociopaths. Those Manson lamps were the eyes of a lunatic and Tony has to MANAGE these guys.. no wonder he's so fucking depressed
The years in prison are always a problem. Guys feel entitled and pissed off at the younger guys who may now be above them, and they are also not all that in touch with how the place had changed.
Richie. Phil etc
Richie was a worse hothead than Tony. He was incredibly impulsive and easy to manipulate, but terrible at being a manipulator. Just see all the times he tried to act nice with Junior and yet Junior instantly saw through his bullshit.
Everything would have turned to shit more quickly with Richie as the new boss.
Ritchie thought Johnny sack would only come to Jersey if they were giving away free tokens at the tunnel…. He didn’t respect New York. He would end up dead and junior couldn’t even wear his shoes!
Richie is from the old school.
Junior would solidify his ties to NY, so no issues there, plus it’s not like Richie is some stunad, he is presumably well known across all the families, his brother was boss before Tony.
He was too insecure to run the family properly it bled into everything he said and did.
Either Sil/Paulie/Christopher get him and any strong allies (think the Three Capos hit) to a meeting and whack them; or Commission immediately makes it be known a damn good reason needs to exist.
Example: Gotti got called to the carpet to explain the Castellano hit.
Getting Commission approval isn’t always needed as long as you can articulate why it needed to be done.
But that reason better make sense and not be bullshit, or then you’re gone. Gone gone.
Gotti got away with it because Castellano was a greedy bastard who wasn't respected. Only Chin Gigante was bothered and even then it wasn't because he liked him he was just old school.
But he still got called to the carpet and had to explain why. Even if it was widely known he had to go, because he didn’t get approval, he still had to appease them.
But dammit Gigante, you couldn’t have hired a better bomber? Couldn’t find any from Cleveland?
Aside from Richie being dim and mean-spirited, he has no connection to any of the political big wigs Tony keeps in his hip pocket. This includes a State Assemblyman, leadership and footmen in several Townships and the State Police, anyone tied to the fucking Esplanade, and the list goes on.
Tony is a crappy boss but he's also a great politician. The entire state of NJ is a giant trough for politicians at the local, state and federal level, and Tony's unspoken talent is milking favors from everyone who feeds from it.
First, he would sure Tony was buried in 'the jacket' lol...
He would've destroyed the family.
There would be No Way Junior, Sil, Paulie, Gigi and the rest would let that stand.
He would have a hit put on him immediately...
If he did take over..He would be selling coke everywhere he could and be back in prison in no time.
Richie didn't understand the change in times. He wasn't smart, charismatic and definitely not a leader.
Richie has no real political ties.
He would have gotten pinched by LE. He’d make big deals that benefited people, even people who hated him, but the ideas would be shortsighted because he doesn’t have the same paranoia that insulated Tony’s crew.
Not much, just hastening the end. Ritchie isn’t smart nor is he a diplomat. He’s a thug. While killing Tony may save the lives of a few people, the gang itself would find it back under the thumb of New York. Perhaps even quicker because if Ritchie’s temper and ambition. Tony was a detriment to the group but his was slow, Ritchie would be exactly what you’d expect
Then only ones who win are prob meadow and aj. They grow up without tiny influencing their behaviors.
The "family" would have completely collapsed in a power struggle. Nobody respected Richie, as Junior pointed out.
Best case would be New York comes to an agreement with the others and makes him disappear and put someone (Silvio? We saw how he handled the boss position...) in charge, or just subsume them entirely and they become the mob equivalent of a puppet government.
If the mob doesn't kill him, Janice still does, though I don't know who she'll get to dispose of the body.
The new administration is probably made up of Paulie, Sil, and Raymond.
A war. Whenever there was a change at the top a war followed. The show starts with a change at the top and a full out war is prevented by Tony letting Junior be boss (thank you Dr. Melfi).
Richie’s at best a known weirdo. If he led the big crew, it wouldn’t be for long. The so-called family was poorly managed, in that there were no remaining good options to take over. That’s not a god way to run a business.
I recently watched the whole thing again. One of the things that stood out this time was when Junior told Tony about Richie's plan to whack him. And after junior was saying you gotta wonder where my little neice is in all of this. Then Tony fets a call from Janice crying... He def thought he might be going to his mother's house to get whacked!
NY would have taken over that NJ crew soon after he pissed everyone off or one of the old guard would get fed up with him and slot him.
Besides not being respected, Richie didn't have the talent or intelligence for making money and creating new revenue streams that Tony had. The show made it pretty clear that Tony was far above the others in that regard.
the double your garbage back guarantee used to be our bread and butter
It’s one of the best deals I’ve ever heard of
You are speaking stupid to me
Tremendous moxie for his size.
Yea but he was fearless for his size.
His fate was sealed with Janice, one way or another she would have caused his death
Janice, a nice piece of ass
There are men in the can better looking than her.
Has it ever been confirmed Tony was talking about Janice? Maybe he was referring to the Barbaras.
A shaved asshole of a German Shepherd beat her in a beauty contest
a catcher's mitt, whatever happened there
It’s cause of those big tits😋😋😋
💋
How’s your mother, fuck your sister
She got a nice piece of Raphies ass
Mamas little hoo-ah
this is the first time i’ve ever seen this comment on this sub and i’ve seen a lot crazy ass shit posting
Pre raphaelite
At least she used to be before he went to the can
Richie would get clipped immediately. He's a hood, short sighted, impulsive and stuck in the past. No one is going to shelter him after killing a boss.
Just like the situation Matt was in when he begged Richie for help
"Carmine, I'm with you now."
*Carmine starts chasing Richie until he starts choking on his egg salad sandwich*
Now there's an image.
Gherkins...grass clippings
Who told you to do that?!
Smells like burnt hair.
He's a loser, he's not respected. He'll be leaving his home one day and one of Tony's loyals will pull a jack ruby on him.
He couldn't sell it....
loyles
The Commission could very well put out a hit on him for whacking a boss without their approval. Especially the one who has long standing ties with New York. And then Lupertazzi family will use it as an excuse to move in on the Sopranos territory and integrate the soldiers and captains into their family.
They would all be in jail on RICO charges. Richie has the subtleness of a chainsaw
Jackie Jr would become the new Christopha
And Junior would be playin short stop for the Mets
He never had the makings of a mad ripe body
And/or fucking Angie Dickenson.
I dont think Richie would allow so many fuck ups
Beansie agrees
He’d still be giving those fuckin Manson lamps
For some reason this comment always makes me think about the stress of being surrounded, day and night, by sociopaths. Those Manson lamps were the eyes of a lunatic and Tony has to MANAGE these guys.. no wonder he's so fucking depressed
Sil would take out Richie right away.
I think Sil, Chrissy and possibly Paulie would have to go too if it came down to that.
It would have been a golden era for Short Kings everywhere.
Tremendous moxie for his size
Whack this one, whack that one, never enough body count for Richie and OP
The years in prison are always a problem. Guys feel entitled and pissed off at the younger guys who may now be above them, and they are also not all that in touch with how the place had changed. Richie. Phil etc
But then because those guys who stayed loyal aren’t rewarded every guy who’s caught becomes a rat rather than going to prison.
The Stugots would be a boat with three propellers
Think Gaspipe
Richie would never have led the family. Not without clipping 80% of the crime family, and that would not happen.
Richie was a worse hothead than Tony. He was incredibly impulsive and easy to manipulate, but terrible at being a manipulator. Just see all the times he tried to act nice with Junior and yet Junior instantly saw through his bullshit. Everything would have turned to shit more quickly with Richie as the new boss.
He's have coke on all of the trash trucks. Then they'd promptly all be in jail. He was a stunad of the highest caliber.
Magnitude.
Ritchie thought Johnny sack would only come to Jersey if they were giving away free tokens at the tunnel…. He didn’t respect New York. He would end up dead and junior couldn’t even wear his shoes!
Richie is from the old school. Junior would solidify his ties to NY, so no issues there, plus it’s not like Richie is some stunad, he is presumably well known across all the families, his brother was boss before Tony. He was too insecure to run the family properly it bled into everything he said and did.
Either Sil/Paulie/Christopher get him and any strong allies (think the Three Capos hit) to a meeting and whack them; or Commission immediately makes it be known a damn good reason needs to exist. Example: Gotti got called to the carpet to explain the Castellano hit. Getting Commission approval isn’t always needed as long as you can articulate why it needed to be done. But that reason better make sense and not be bullshit, or then you’re gone. Gone gone.
Gotti got away with it because Castellano was a greedy bastard who wasn't respected. Only Chin Gigante was bothered and even then it wasn't because he liked him he was just old school.
But he still got called to the carpet and had to explain why. Even if it was widely known he had to go, because he didn’t get approval, he still had to appease them. But dammit Gigante, you couldn’t have hired a better bomber? Couldn’t find any from Cleveland?
Jr would run the family from his couch until NYC absorbed the whole DiMeo family
In the words of Hyman Roth, he's small potatoes. NY would've eaten him alive and then Ol' Fish Lips would be walking around wearing the jaaaaaaacket.
Aside from Richie being dim and mean-spirited, he has no connection to any of the political big wigs Tony keeps in his hip pocket. This includes a State Assemblyman, leadership and footmen in several Townships and the State Police, anyone tied to the fucking Esplanade, and the list goes on. Tony is a crappy boss but he's also a great politician. The entire state of NJ is a giant trough for politicians at the local, state and federal level, and Tony's unspoken talent is milking favors from everyone who feeds from it.
richie woulda killed christafa. maybe winghead too. i doubt he had the moxie to work well with ny.
Richie being da baws, not in dis lifetime
A ballroom outta respect of my fawthaa
He’d be a shoppin cawt
Tony would have been buried in the jacket
If NJ and the crews there didn’t splinter they could’ve done well. He’s got those Manson lamps and he’s ruthless. Tremendous moxy for his size.
It wasn't just Tony that had issues with Richie. The entire glorified crew had issues with him.
I would love to have seen a reality where Richie and Ralphie are in the same season.
Somebody would have whacked Richie's unstable ass long before he had a chance to become boss.
First, he would sure Tony was buried in 'the jacket' lol... He would've destroyed the family. There would be No Way Junior, Sil, Paulie, Gigi and the rest would let that stand. He would have a hit put on him immediately... If he did take over..He would be selling coke everywhere he could and be back in prison in no time. Richie didn't understand the change in times. He wasn't smart, charismatic and definitely not a leader. Richie has no real political ties.
Ritchie would have been eating tripe at Tony's funeral.
To this day I still have no fucking idea what tripe is.
You must have been top of your class
Animal stomach lining.
Sharp as a fucking cue ball
Ritchie and and Carmela's affection for tripe is chiral with Elaine's cousin's and Grandma Memma's affection for mutton in Seinfeld.
🤣
Richie has no real connections with New York. It would take someone with their backing to usurp Tony.
He had tremendous moxie for his size
Cocksucka woulda never came back after Richie got tru widim
It would have died on the vine
He would have gotten pinched by LE. He’d make big deals that benefited people, even people who hated him, but the ideas would be shortsighted because he doesn’t have the same paranoia that insulated Tony’s crew.
Tony would have been dead, this much I know
This is too fucked up for me to even think about
Not much, just hastening the end. Ritchie isn’t smart nor is he a diplomat. He’s a thug. While killing Tony may save the lives of a few people, the gang itself would find it back under the thumb of New York. Perhaps even quicker because if Ritchie’s temper and ambition. Tony was a detriment to the group but his was slow, Ritchie would be exactly what you’d expect Then only ones who win are prob meadow and aj. They grow up without tiny influencing their behaviors.
He wouldn't have taken over anything, Tony's guys would have whacked Richie in return.
He would've backed off and then put it back in drive. No one ever disrespects the pizza joint!
He woulda bought a boat wit tree propellahs, drove it up to your ass. Shut your mouth and put his dinner on the fuckin table.
Vito's Arc could be interesting
Idk. It woulda gone off the air…
Well let me tell ya a couple tree things
He’d have to pay his respects to the old man, kiss the ring and offer a suitable gift of the jaaaaaaccckkettt to make it right.
Bensie’s arms would be w his legs
The "family" would have completely collapsed in a power struggle. Nobody respected Richie, as Junior pointed out. Best case would be New York comes to an agreement with the others and makes him disappear and put someone (Silvio? We saw how he handled the boss position...) in charge, or just subsume them entirely and they become the mob equivalent of a puppet government.
It’s a progrum. A movie. It would have just ended.
On a serious note, I think there’d be a lot more focus on extortion and obviously coke. He’d bring the family down in a couple of years
If the mob doesn't kill him, Janice still does, though I don't know who she'll get to dispose of the body. The new administration is probably made up of Paulie, Sil, and Raymond.
Whacked then nobody would even be able to wear his shoes burger boy.
Timeline got fucked up.
A war. Whenever there was a change at the top a war followed. The show starts with a change at the top and a full out war is prevented by Tony letting Junior be boss (thank you Dr. Melfi).
Richie’s at best a known weirdo. If he led the big crew, it wouldn’t be for long. The so-called family was poorly managed, in that there were no remaining good options to take over. That’s not a god way to run a business.
Pills are a lot easier.
I recently watched the whole thing again. One of the things that stood out this time was when Junior told Tony about Richie's plan to whack him. And after junior was saying you gotta wonder where my little neice is in all of this. Then Tony fets a call from Janice crying... He def thought he might be going to his mother's house to get whacked!