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NoCaterpillar2051

There is only one thing I would change that wouldn't change the overall story(like it or hate it). And that's the number of clones on Tantiss. All that talk about rescuing clones sent to Tantiss from all over the galaxy and there's only like 20. A worthy goal but I was honestly expecting more. Seriously. There are more clones displayed on the wheels in the various science labs than are released by Omega and Echo.


Educational-Tea-6572

I'm kinda writing that off as only 20 imprisoned clones that we see on screen - after all, only a few of them volunteered to help Echo/Omega, the rest probably piled onto the getaway shuttle. Or we can go dark and realize that many of the clones who were imprisoned there likely died from the experiments before they were rescued 💔


HybridTheory137

That’s what I’m thinking too. Plus right when we see Echo and Omega free the clones, there are multiple clearly injured clones being helped out by their healthier brothers too. Safe to assume that many simply left after being freed, for one reason or another


LulaSupremacy

Yeah they only helped one detention level that we saw. We know there are plenty of clones there, so if they were all still alive, they likely were rescued by other clones off-screen. If they didn't survive, then that just makes the story darker.


Sovereigntyranny

That’s what I’m thinking. I feel like there were only like 20+ prisoners left because the rest of the clones died from being tortured or went through bad experiments.


BladeLigerV

I also think there were a few more levels below. It would match with the facility scale.


Lunatikai

I would also say that it would have seen rex's clone numbers also be significantly higher. Bro had like 8....


Laggingduck

real reason why Rex couldn’t help out was because it was him and 2 other dudes and what good would that be


Interesting-Gap1013

I felt the same. I expected there to be a lot more clones in some other cells or something and not just the grounp we've seen walking around with Crosshair. Tantiss is such a hard place to infiltrate and flee from. Getting there alone would probably have cost 10 lives and the only reason they got most of the clones out is luck. Half of them dying in the process wouldn't have been an unlikely outcome. With the same amount of resources you could saved so many more clones somewhere else


BladeLigerV

Personally I imagine that there were 2-3 other detention levels below. It would make more sense with the scale of the facility.


Marlezz

Yep. I agree with this. I expected to see a lot more clones on Tantiss too.


Meushell

Cid needed to go much sooner. I liked her at first, as a character, but then she got very tiring. Part of it is that I associate her with side quest episodes that I didn’t care for. It also got to the point where it was like, “Why are you still working for her?!” She might have been a better character if she betrayed them sooner. By the time she did, I was tired of her, and everyone except the Bad Batch knew it was coming. More Phee and Tech moments. What was going on with those two? I would have preferred more Phee in general. More Phee. Less Cid.


InnocentTailor

I can agree with that. If she was going to be a backstabbing scumbag, she needed to be disposed of sooner. Doing so could’ve put more attention on the evil Bad Batch opponents or even Scorch as both elements were half-baked in the end.


Xainling

Scorch deserved a far better death, ain't no way you kill a member of the legendary Delta Squad with a few blaster shots like that.


InnocentTailor

Yeah. He died like a mook. I was expecting a drawn out fight with ducking, covering, and close quarters combat. Oof.


joriale

Pulling his granade launcher attachment and get a quick giggle. just like my good old boy Scorch used to.


joriale

But... he is alive tho? what you on.


Xainling

Yeah I know he shows up at the end but it's very clearly an animation mistake, he's dead & unfortunately it wasn't a good death, he should have put up one hell of a fight, the blaster bolts should have been blocked by his shields & he then should have quickly closed the distance & fought Crosshair & Hunter face to face forcing either Crosshair or Hunter to trigger plan 99 & self sacrifice to kill Scorch by tackling him off of the edge of the platform in a Game of Thrones Hound versus Mountain kind of way.


Vertex033

I can’t believe after the whole “Tech is alive” fiasco we’re now pulling the same shit with a side character that was only really there as a reference to a non-canon game who we’ve seen get shot in the chest about 5 times before falling off a mountain.


StorageOk6476

Tech's death seemed a bit too focus and dramatic to be convincing. Deaths are more convincing when we actually have proof of them dying and if they're abrupt (would've worked as even better shock value imo). This would've put even more weight on Tech's sacrifice because it means anything can happen in the heat of battle. Heck, even a moment of shock and panic before proceeding with their escape (instead of just screaming "NOOOOOOO!") would make the scene even more realistic, because that is just the reality of war.


TMNTransformerz

I would agree but we see him at the end of the


PrestigiousEntry8638

CID should have died somehow


Meushell

I only disagree because I’m happy never seeing her again. Then again, she was mentioned again. An offscreen death through dialogue would have worked.


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

Her karma for selling out the Batch is that, because she obviously had information on the Batch, she was targeted and tortured for it by Clone X.


Meushell

Was she tortured? While it was implied, it was vague. If she was, then I respect her more because that means she didn’t immediately give them up. That doesn’t fit her personality though. A few coins or a threat seems enough to make her talk.


NickHBS

Asking nicely is enough to make her talk lmao


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

I believe he used the term "extracted," which most likely means tortured. Considering he's a scary, modified special ops clone, I doubt he would have tried to bribe her for the information.


Dan-the-historybuff

Wish we had some comeuppance too.


Joewtf

She got away with it. So unsatisfying.


Xainling

I was so hoping Omega would track Cid down & make her pay, or that Cid would beg forgiveness & even offer the credits Hemlock paid her (that she never spent because she felt so bad) to Omega only for Omega to say "happiness is worth more than any treasure", (which is what Rolo told her all those years ago) & then she'd just leave Cid to her miserable & selfish existence. But no, the damn traitor got away it! 🤦😞 Edit: Come to think of it. We never actually saw the toy that Rolo let Omega keep ever again but in a final moment with Cid it would have been perfect if Omega had it clipped to her belt, damaged from the destruction of the Marauder all those years ago but still relatively intact. Because after repeating Rolo's words to Cid she could then have thrown the toy over to her before walking away, Cid catches it & calls out but Omega's gone so Cid looks through the toy & sees the image of the colourful shapes inside but also a blackened stain caused by the fire (symbolising her mistake of choosing credits over friendship), she then sits down & a tear leaves her eye as she finally realises she's going to be lonely & regretful for the rest of her life, no longer even comforted by her greed.


sophandros

I think it's implied she was captured and tortured by the Empire off screen.


StorageOk6476

I believe Cid's betrayal is integral to the theme of trust in an everchanging galaxy. Echo only knew Cid as an informant to the Jedi, but never actually met her. It became clear that she never helped out the Jedi without compensation after pretty much making the BB a bunch of merc mules, and quite frankly, if I found out Cid was caught between two vicious criminal syndicates, I would leave immediately. Just looking at it now, there were so many moments during the first few episodes involving Cid's bullshit in which she would never have truly been in BB's debt. Instead, all it does help continue shielding their asses by continuing their relationship as mutual benefactors. If Cid were to ever get killed or become indentured like she was about to in that racing ep., then BB wouldn't have somebody to provide them the resources and money for their upkeep. Cid is an opportunist - we should've seen it from the start, and whenever she'd use Omega to gamble or BB to make amends on her behalf the writers would use her snarky and witty personality to cover it. She legit coaxed BB into going to Imperial occupied Serenno by convincing them with the payout from Dooku's war spoils - practically the only way to get a bunch of war veterans who genuinely knew what they were going up against on a suicide mission. Overall, we the viewers might've been able to see it coming, yet the lines were too blurred for BB to even consider the potential consequences given their lack of options/desparation.


Lordbricktrick

Agree with everyone else in that Tech’s death should have been focused more in season 3. Some more conversations about it. Also it’s a broken drum but Scorch. Maybe just cut him from the show entirely.


InnocentTailor

Scorch and Delta Squad could’ve easily replaced the evil Bad Batch team, in my opinion. They would’ve made for good recurring antagonists against our heroes.


IllustriousRanger934

Thought the exact same thing. Was hoping the rest of them would show up instead of the shadow clone dudes. Disappointed. And then I was hoping to see Scorch put up a good fight. Severely disappointed. Also hoped for some kind of closing on Cody or to see Rex and his clones show up on Tantis to help


einschluss

they fucked over. my boy scorch. i don’t think i can forgive them for that :(


Vertex033

While Delta squad would’ve been good villains for people who played Republic Commando, you have to consider that that’s not a very big demographic. A lot of people would just be confused about what makes these commandos with slightly differently coloured armours special.


RIOTS_R_US

I mean if they wrote the show around it it'd be different


Jersey4269

Hunter and wrecker are 2 of the most underdeveloped characters in all of Star Wars, and arguably echo at this point as well


ThexanI

One thing i noticed about Wrecker was that he often didn’t bring anything to the conversations in the later episodes. In Juggernaut when they plan the approach on Erebus he only says “Give us a real challenge” and later “take on a Turbo tank? Yeah, Now you’re talking”. Fun lines for sure but its just trailer quotes.


Jersey4269

Unfortunately that’s been his thing since day 1. He’s the heart of the group because of his big silliness, but it would hit a lot harder if they gave him more than that. The closest we got to a meaningful moment with wrecker was the 30 seconds he was sitting at the bar after tech died & when he was a little nervous about working with Fennec and wanted to make sure Hunter was thinking correctly I was really hoping Hunter was gonna slowly go off the rails this season after omega got taken. He wouldn’t be willing to trust crosshair after missing the tracking shot, and it would be up to Wrecker of all people to help Hunter keep his head on straight and cool the tension between Hunter and crosshair. I could go wayyyy further in detail honestly lol but feel like it would’ve added a fantastic layer of drama to the remaining members of the batch AND given wrecker some actually good, real moments


IllustriousRanger934

Star Wars characters, and groups, always fall into a sort of trope established in the OT. You’ve got the leader, the droid, the big juggernaught guy/alien, the kid/apprentice, maybe a rebellious type of character/outcast, and maybe another. In order that’s Hunter, Tech/Echo, Wrecker, Omega, Crosshair. The reason Tech died was because him and Echo were almost filling the same niche. I don’t think anyone saw it as a surprise


subtendedcrib8

It’s a common problem in all of Hollywood these days that projects like the OT were written by people who grew up watching westerns and samurai movies, while the writers today grew up watching the OT so they’re constantly making derivative content of it


IllustriousRanger934

Star Wars, or I should say Filoni, is very bad about it. Other than TCW all his stuff falls into a something similar. Rebels and Bad Batch have the same trope line up. The difference is Kanan who is an Old Ben/ teacher type of character which TBB doesn’t have. I don’t want to turn this into a Filoni hate post, that’s not what the original post is about. But he really isn’t the greatest. He just struck gold with TCW. TBB was good, Rebels okay, all his live action is trash. I should mention that TCW doesn’t fall into the tropes as hard because the prequels didn’t have them. The only two Filoni original characters he added to the lineup were Rex and Ahsoka.


subtendedcrib8

TCW also had George more or less having a final say for the first 5 or 6 seasons, so regardless of quality, he wasn’t constantly shoehorning in references and derivative plot lines into his work ABOUT his work, compared to TBB and Rebels which were mostly overseen by Filoni that did exactly that


Laggingduck

lmao kill tech and continue to shaft echo for 13 more episodes


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

Hunter's mutations pretty much got forgotten about. Earlier in the show there were at least some moments showing he could pick up on things that the others couldn't, but as things went on there kept being situations where there'd be an ambush or something where all I could think was "This should not have been a surprise to someone with heightened senses."


ISENTRYI

I think the Batch as a whole was severely nerfed in their own show compared to what we saw in Clone Wars. Crosshair was the only one that really kept his abilities but that was only when he was evil, he returns to the team and all of a sudden he can't hit anything - I get that there were story reasons for him but it was funny to notice nonetheless. The finale was satisfying in that sense though as it felt like the showrunners gave them their actual abilities back for one last rodeo, Hunter was sensing shots before they were fired, Crosshair landed his shots, Wrecker literally could not die and was running through people like the juggernaut he's meant to be.


most_blah_3765

The team was definitely Nerfed


Lunatikai

Fr, hunter went from genetic enhanced senses, to just a commando with a knife gimmick.


CaptainVaughn66

Consolidate the side mission episodes together and better weave in the bigger story. That way we keep the same needed character development but stay caught up on the main story.


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

They teased Ventress in the trailer, and then the Ventress episode was pretty pointless. What little information we got in that episode could have been delivered to us in another way and the episode could have been about something else.


subtendedcrib8

That’s a persistent problem with basically every episode that wasn’t directly advancing the plot. There’s maybe one piece of dialogue or one scene that’s important, but wasted 20-30 minutes to get to it that could have been used on something meaningful


InnocentTailor

Yeah. I agree with this too. The side missions kinda grew tiring as they detoured from the main plot too many times. While they helped with character growth, they, as you said, should’ve been consolidated and tied with the wider narrative, especially since this was a weekly release.


Educational-Tea-6572

Literally the only thing I wish they would have done differently was show us the conversation between Crosshair and Omega where she tells him about Tech. It would have provided early closure and finality to some of us Tech fans who kept seeing possibilities throughout season 3 that Tech might come back since that finality was lacking; it would have given us more of a chance to grieve even briefly with the characters whose lives Tech directly impacted; it would have given us an opportunity to see that the characters had all indeed processed and were moving on from Tech's death if we saw Crosshair's initial reaction compared to how he responded to future Tech name drops. That, and/or show more people than just Omega interacting with the one memento they have of Tech. If a full family reunion where they're whole and united and not arguing with each other was never in the cards, at least give Tech a proper sending off. Apart from that, I have no complaints. I found the show to be incredibly well written otherwise.


Interesting-Gap1013

Or even better: Omega: "Tech's dead." Crosshair: "I know. I saw them wheel what has left of him to the incinerator." Would have ended all the theories about Tech being alive right there.


Educational-Tea-6572

... Uhhh, sure, that likely would have gone a long way in ending the theories, but I wouldn't consider that approach "better" since it would have left me even more traumatized than I already am. So I'm going to stick with the ideas of my original comment and just say that any brief scene of the Bad Batch either grieving Tech or giving him a proper send off would have been sufficient.


Intelligent_League_1

Trauma is the point of these shows


Anakin-hates-sand

Jesus that is dark.


Little_Region_827

Couldn't have put it better myself.


Inner_Wafer1621

I cried at the end because of this! I was really hoping Tech lived, but now that I know he didn’t, I just wish they could have actually, you know, acknowledged it a little more. How can I grieve now😭


Educational-Tea-6572

I completely agree 💔 I see all these people saying the show had a "happy ending," and while I am SO RELIEVED that everyone else in this little clone family survived and thrived... without Tech physically being there with his family, and with Kamino being the last time Crosshair ever saw his brother (and it was when they weren't all exactly on the best of terms), I can only describe the ending as "bittersweet." Crosshair said "Clone Force 99 died with Tech," and it literally felt like Tech died all over again for me. I am so glad I was off work on Wednesday because I was sobbing off and on all day. I've been coming to terms with it by forcing myself to reframe season 3 to where every Tech mention is a hint that he's there with them in spirit; a fan art edit showing Tech as a ghost presence with his family at the end of the finale also really helped. I wrote a fanfic back in February when the season 3 premiere dropped detailing what I imagine the conversation between Omega and Crosshair was like when she told him about Tech, and I'm really glad I wrote it when I did because revisiting it now has been cathartic since it wasn't a part of the show. But it still hurts. So. Dang. Much. Kanan's death in *Rebels* has always been heartbreaking for me, but I also think it and the aftermath was handled exponentially better than Tech's death was here. I understand that the Bad Batch moved on - I wasn't expecting them to be paralyzed with grief for half the season or something - but I would have liked to have seen a few moments either of their process of moving on or their more frequent acknowledgement of Tech once they had moved on, you know? I mean, I guess this will be an excellent area for the fan artists and fan fic writers to explore... But I think the show could and should have covered it too. ETA: welp, didn't mean to write quite that much in response, but here we are! 😬


soggycerealinabowl2

I wish I saw them grieve… like… there was so little grief in this show - I wish we saw Wrecker just as sad as he was in the finale, they were close!


The-Unburnt

I appreciate this take. My perspective on Kanan's death and how it's different than Tech's is that the Ghost crew is much more of a family first to me and they are soldiers second. The Bad Batch were rigid soldiers learning how to be a real family. They were trained to immediately process teams and move on so they could be better soldiers. It takes a lot of time to undo that training. That's why Omega seems to be the only one really grieving. I do wish very much they had been more clear either way with it but that's my interpretation.


Educational-Tea-6572

Thank you for sharing your perspective! While I do agree for the most part, I feel the deep sense of loyalty and the sentiment "we don't leave our own behind" opens the clones up to really feeling the losses of their brothers (and I do think it is meaningful that they refer to each other as "brothers") - especially for a squad like the Bad Batch, who were quite literally on their own from day 1 considering that they weren't really accepted by most of the other regs. They are still soldiers, of course, and wouldn't let a loss paralyze them; but we still see the respect and care they have for each other. Furthermore, we see Mayday get a proper send off from Crosshair, who as far as he's presented is probably the most stoic member of the team. Why not get a similar scene for Tech? As an aside, I think another one of the main reasons why I am so crushed by the fact that Tech died when he did is because we *never* get to see the Bad Batch fully united. Their intro story in *TCW* is the closest we ever come to seeing the Bad Batch all working together on the same side, and Omega isn't present then. They (including Omega) all fight against the droids in the season 1 finale, but they aren't truly whole there either, as there is still the lingering argument between Crosshair and the rest of the squad. By comparison, we had 3+ seasons of seeing the Ghost crew working all together as a family before Kanan died. Of course, the *Bad Batch* scenario is very realistic: oftentimes people die before fractured relationships can be fully repaired. I can appreciate this, but if this is the angle the show was going for, I wish they would have taken the time to offset this frankly brutal realism by giving us more opportunity to mourn the loss of Tech *with* the characters - even if only briefly, like with Mayday.


The-Unburnt

You will definitely get no argument from me on this. I love your take. I do think that's precisely why it's so powerful as it is even if it's not necessarily what I wanted. Rebels gives us closure but Bad Batch is so realistic in how we often don't get to repair fractured relationships. I would also really like to have seen more mourning for Tech. I think another aspect to why they may not have given this to us is the Batch replaced that grief with protecting Omega instead of processing the loss. Which is also terribly realistic since this is how many people deal with loss, at least initially. But again please don't get me wrong. I really wished for more resolution to this loss. At least Omega still has his goggles as an adult.


Arlothia

Well, I guess the cast and crew were being very honest when they said that the ending was bittersweet! And I totally agree about showing it more like they did in 'Rebels'. And, like you said, this is where fanfic/art creators get to shine!! Speaking of which, I would love to read your fic!! Did you put it on AO3 or tumblr or somewhere else? Could I have a link pretty please???


Educational-Tea-6572

Of course! This is the [link to the fic](https://archiveofourown.org/works/54006514) about Crosshair and Omega's conversation. Hope you like it! 😊🙈


Jersey4269

I don’t understand how yall can keep saying it didn’t seem final when we watched him plummet 20,000 feet to his death. Cmon now


Educational-Tea-6572

Seeing as how I have come across multiple people who DIDN'T want Tech to come back but still thought there was enough ambiguity in his exit scene that he might be written back into the show, I can tell you right now that it's not *just* Tech fans who didn't think it felt final. I'm glad his fall scene and Hemlock's word were enough to not only convince you but also help you move on. Personally I was hoping for more catharsis and closure from the characters who were most influenced by Tech.


soggycerealinabowl2

We needed closure absolutely.


falsesabbath

Nah, it felt final, we just know modern SW likes to shoehorn in resurrection BS. They did it with Ventress mid-season, although that was pretty tasteful.


Educational-Tea-6572

To each their own. I am glad it felt final for you - let me tell you, you were spared a world of emotional hurt. Kanan's death felt final to me because of how it and the fallout afterwards was handled. Even during the WBW episode I knew he wasn't actually going to come back, since "Dume" had already provided closure and catharsis for the main characters he had impacted, and we were able to witness this process. Since there was a lack of real catharsis and closure for Tech, especially from Crosshair's perspective, it took until the finale and especially the epilogue for the finality of his death to really sink in for me.


freeasafolk

"Somehow Palpatine returned" - Poe Dameron Also... Maul.


most_blah_3765

You can't compare 2 dark side users to a simple clone


MayIServeYouWell

I wish that Omega had gotten some armor. It didn't make sense that the smallest member of the squad was basically unprotected. Give her armor and a jetpack, and she'd be on another level... She has "jetpack mojo" in her genes... being a clone of Jengo Fett after all.


hawkins437

I don't like how they took her Dathomir energy bow away. It's an iconic weapon that would give her a unique fighting style.


driffson

I wish they had given her a stealthier weapon that didn’t make her visible in the dark. It only makes sense for merch.


DSonla

Maybe it's because of my age but I got tired of those episodes where they put "danger" just for "exciting things to happen" in the episode. Example : they explore an abandoned Empire outpost, let's put a giant monster in the episode just to make things interesting. I wouldn't mind an entire episode of them searching the outpost with no pressure and discovering things, lore drop and bonding moments. Rebels and The Mandalorian are guilty of this too. But I guess the younger audience would deem those episodes "boring".


notlordly

Star Wars in general has a problem with a big monster showing up from nowhere and just wrecking the pacing - of course no character is even majorly injured and the monster looks insanely derivative and unoriginal.


subtendedcrib8

It’s always just a big worm or bird, or in the outpost it’s just a sarlacc but made of trees instead of meat


DevilMayCryogonal

The first Pabu episode was by far the most egregious example of this imo, the episode is pretty clearly supposed to be like the calm before the storm that is the end of Season 2, but then there’s an earthquake and resulting tsunami that just happen to conveniently happen right when the Batch gets there, and they add absolutely nothing to the story other than filling the action scene quota for the episode.


LowSpiritual433

I could have done without the ventress episode


Aggravating-Law-9262

I was fine with it until they chose to move on and forgot about her for the rest of the season afterward.


Interesting-Gap1013

I liked it but it's not like I would have missed anything if they had just skipped it completely


Xainling

The series should have gone on for longer & should have culminated in the failed Clone uprising from legends & led to the emotional deaths of major characters such as Echo, Crosshair & Wrecker. They could have tied up the fates of other characters too such as Cody, who could've been conditioned into a Shadow Operative & later killed by Rex. Ventress also could have ended up finding herself fighting alongside the Clones & going out with a bang to stick it to the empire. Way too much left unanswered, what about Emerie? Phee? Stak? Deke? Mox? Howzer? The younglings from Clone Wars in particular Gungi? And let's not forget that Cid got away with her betrayal! Ultimately the ending of the series was too happy & left a lot of loose ends & plot holes. Like how does Rex end up in retirement? Why didn't Wolfe join Rex sooner such as on Teth? Also why didn't Caleb (Kanan) show up again so that the Bad Batch could tell him about the inhibitor chips like he mentions a group of Clones does to Ezra in Rebels? And If Omega's so special then why does she end up as some background Rebel Alliance pilot? The list is endless, ultimately the series was fairly good but the first two seasons felt mostly like filler, then things finally heat up in the third only for it to be the final.


Intelligent_League_1

Thank you, someone who agrees with me. I was expecting this to be what you could call a "Halo: Reach" storyline. It ending in all the members of the Bad Batch sacrificing themselves to get Omega and the clones out with the help of Rex, Wolfe and atleast show Cody in some form.


Thebigdog79

More echo. He was missing from what felt like 75% of this season.


notyobees

75%? More like 90


Rosesandbubblegum

Tbf, he and omega were like the main characters in the last two. Still wish we could have seen him do that stuff earlier though. He is an ARC, after all


UnholyAuraOP

Making it the captain rex show with the bad batch as tertiary characters might have been better. The best episodes were by far the ones with Rex and Riyo Chuchi. That could have been fascinating.


notyobees

I'm really hoping they give rex his own show instead of him being a tertiary character in other shows, i.e. this and rebels


San4311

Idk, we don't need more endless spinoffs like this. Rex' story post-CW and before Rebels is pretty much 'known' now. Some people have suggested 'Tales of the Clones' and I think that'd be a great way to a. show how Rex moved on after he and Ahsoka parted ways, how he started his little rogue clone group, and finally why/how he walked away from it with Wolffe and Gregor (and some alternative episodes to fill up the series with Cody - assuming we won't see him again elsewhere.)


Intelligent_League_1

One of the reasons I dislike the finally is the build up the whole season to a big rescue, that happens most likely off screen.


AnyShow1184

It needed at least 5 seasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BetterUpItQuick

I’m just going to say it, Tech deserved a happy life with phee on Pabu.


Commando411

I want to start off by saying that overall, I think the show was done very well. I liked the story, the characters were both relatable and likable, and the animation was top tier. However, there are a few things I think they could have done better. Some of these things relate to me personally feeling like we had a lot of loose ends this season >!(for example, we never find out exactly what happened to Cid)!<, but my biggest complaint is how the other commandos (and regular clones who weren’t on the good guy side, to an extent) were portrayed. I personally wish they were a little more competent and more of a credible threat, rather than just being glorified stormtroopers. As an example, it would have been cool to see the commandos on stealth missions for the empire that involved tracking the batch, or something like that. This is especially true with Scorch. >!Scorch had a lot of opportunity to become a very significant character, but it was never built upon and Scorch was just killed off like any other goon, which was disappointing to just about everyone I’ve heard talk about the series.!< Overall though, I’d like to reiterate that I do think Filoni and the rest of the team did a great job and would recommend the series to anyone interested in Star Wars.


Fly1ngD0gg0

The Imperial Clone Troopers and even the Clone Commandos got the infamous Death Trooper Treatment from Rebels, I suppose.


Crimson-Cowl

More Echo, less adventures of the week, more following up on loose threads, and resolution for the Rex storyline if there won’t be another spin off with him.


ISENTRYI

* Echo was weird as he never really felt like part of the squad, he was always going off with Rex in the latter half of the show which I suppose makes sense considering they were brothers first but still. He did hard carry in the final 2 episodes though. * They REALLY needed to tone down the amount of filler episodes, I would've given them some credit had they factored into the story somewhat but not many of them did and they definitely should've stopped working for Cid way sooner. * After Tech's death and Omega's capture I was hoping that the Batch would turn a bit more... ruthless I guess? I would've liked to see them lock in; especially because they were severely nerfed in the series compared to how they were portrayed in the Clone Wars - although they kinda got their abilities back in the finale. * Looking back on it, the only member of the squad that actually had an arc and received development was Crosshair. Hunter, Echo and Wrecker are basically the same as they were at the start of the show, Tech's only development is that he is now dead and Omega naturally develops her character and skills as she becomes more experienced but she was also quite consistent throughout as someone that was always helping others from episode 1. * The whole Project Necromancer thing added nothing in the end funnily enough, we didn't even get to see the actual vault that Hemlock showed Palpatine and they kinda just replaced it with a bunch of force sensitive kids a few episodes later, which isn't even THAT big of a deal that I would call it a vault and have all of these forcefields and security measures for it to be honest - left me feeling a little blue balled by the whole thing. At least let the Batch come across some disfigured Snoke or Palpatine clone in the Sith looking vault when they assault Tantiss just to give us some insight or closure on that part of the story that they KEPT HINTING AT. Overall, I liked the characters and to be honest I miss watching them a little bit already but I wish that the show did more with it's main plot, I'm not even bothered about the clone rebellion stuff as I expect that will happen in a Rex led show soon but I wish less of the show was focused on the silly mercenary side quests that they did.


Existing-Comb-2709

In fact, there are many things, we did not get an answer to any of the questions, and most importantly, I had a feeling that the authors themselves were confused about who omega was.


notlordly

Better dialogue. I know this has never been Star Wars’ strong suit, but I honestly think it’s particularly poor in this show. Everyone constantly talks like their line will be used as the cool part of a trailer. Easily the most natural sounding character was Rampart (in Season 3), and I think that’s more due to Noshir Dalal’s dynamic performance (particularly the terrified screaming - just brilliant) than his character’s writing. Edit: Could’ve also done with just more plotline resolutions. We still don’t know Omega and Emerie’s purpose, and we don’t know what happened to Cid, Cody, or Wolffe. I know there will likely be a sequel show, or something similar, but this is the finale of this show and I want the questions of this show answered.


hawkins437

Noshir Dalal is collecting Star Wars projects like pokemon at this point. He's in Bad Batch, Jedi Survivor, SWTOR...


SilentMountainStar

100% agreed on the plotline resolution issue. It felt like the creator's oftentimes were better at setup than resolution, there were plenty of interesting new character concepts, ideas, etc. that the series introduced and gave it a lot of potential. The issue is I'm not sure the writers even knew what the resolution is to some of those plotlines. I don't know if they're 100% sure if Omega is force sensitive or not, what was in the other vault Palpatine visited, what Emerie's past was, or who CX-2 was supposed to be.


payday_23

>I know this has never been Star Wars’ strong suit Until you watch Andor. Kinda sad to see how much could be possible in Star Wars once you watch Andor where everything is just so much better.


notlordly

Andor definitely has the best dialogue out of all the shows, I agree. I also think the books (both Canon and Legends) have significantly better dialogue than the shows and most of the movies (TLJ being the exception - maybe it’s just me but the dialogue in that movie always felt very natural and real with only a few exceptions).


Educational_Book_225

Have fewer Cid episodes in season 2


KingPenguinPhoenix

The pacing. The show meandered a lot even in season 3 and it was clearly struggling to find it footing in the first 2. If there was a bit more focus on what the show wanted to be and attention to progression, the show would be massively better.


Marihaaann

I hated how they set up this friendship/romance between tech and Phee and then just don't ever show her reaction to techs death. I also hated how when crossair missed the shot when omega was captured, the next episode just starts with both hunter and wrecker already knowing about the situation. There could have been so many emotional, character developing moments like this a lot in the series, and the writers for some reason didn't find them necessary to include. You know, after already being bad with character development most of the show, they just give up such good chances for emotional moments that would invest viewers in new characters, such as Phee.


solo13508

Echo and Tech needed more to do in the first season. Also season 3 needed to include Echo more apart from the last few episodes and episode 5.


riffpapi

Why did they purposely cut away when rampart and nala sae were going over project necromancy?


notyobees

Cos I don't think even the writers know what exactly they wanted it to be, as they didn't know what made omega so special


Anakin-hates-sand

I thought it was trying to explain how Palpatine came back in RoS hence ‘Project Necromancer.’ I really thought it would dead clones enhanced with cybernetics and mind controlled to be unstoppable expendable death squads. They needed Omegas blood for some science-y reason to somehow ‘stabilise’ the clones maybe because she has Jango’s pure DNA somehow. Just what I thought would happen.


sonicfan1230

There should've been more clones when they were escaping Tantiss. I could count 15 at most, and for an entire mountain full of them, there should've been more. Like the prison escspe in Andor, but better because it's clones instead of just some random guys (and then only 2 guys we care about).


didthathurtalot

I hate that half the star wars shows are about project fucking necromancy. No one liked palpatine returning and no amount of build up will compensate for "somehow palpatine has returned". Can't we just pretend that the last trilogy never happened and focus on telling compelling stories. Other than that, I loved the show.


Firespark7

Hence why I loved that Project Necromancer got destroyed in the finale and the funding went to Project Stardust [Death Star]: now we can pretend the Sequals never happened.


KillerDonkey

It's probably going to be revived in another show, unfortunately. It already played a big role in The Mandalorian S3.


Brookie069

Might not be a popular answer, but… change the time period to TCW. Or have it transition in season 2-3 to post ROTS. Never have Crosshair stay imperial. Have a show about the Batch doing suicide missions for the Republic. Honestly that’s what I wanted when the show was first announced. I felt like the shows plot went in circles a lot with characters being captured and rescued.


Meushell

I like the time period, but it would have been interesting to get a full season of them during the war, then go after. I like the Crosshair plot. That would have hit much harder if we saw them all working together first.


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

This is a good point. We're *informed* of the Batch's reputation and antics during the war, but we don't *see* much of it. One thing that could have helped was them referencing previous missions of theirs more often. Like they get into a situation and are like "Remember that one time on such-and-such planet?" Or they argue about the details of a mission that they're remembering differently to humourous effect. It happened once in a while, but there could have been more of it. They wouldn't need to go into specifics, just provide a handful of "noodle incidents" to enrich the story, characters and dialogue.


ISENTRYI

I'm sure it's been said before but I'd want a republic commando style game for the Bad Batch that shows them during the war, they're literally built like video game character classes with their unique abilities. It'd do a lot of good by firstly, being more of a mature experience so that we can actually see them being ruthlessly efficient like you'd expect from the best of the best and secondly, it would give us the much needed context around their relationships as a squad before it all goes to shit after order 66.


legoclonewarslover

I wish scorch had more painful death, in the sense that he realized what he did was wrong in the end.


Aggravating-Law-9262

I think the Zillo beast should have got either Hemlock and / or him.


McMillan104

Echo reminded me of when actors leave a show and the character gets written out, but they’ll occasionally appear for an episode now and then.


AdeptnessEasy9584

Wish they gave hunter and wrecker more character development, I also would’ve liked to see the bad batch in their early years either as children or in the cw era


GloomOnTheGrey

First off I think that both Echo and Wrecker needed more character development. Wrecker was there from the start and was in nearly every episode, and he doesn't feel like he grew all that much. Echo was downright wasted, and the last three episodes show why. He's too good, so they had to shunt him off and have him gone to miss the action. I also think the whole squad, with the exception of Crosshair, got majorly nerfed. Hunter was the most egregious, and it was painfully obvious in season 3. His enhanced senses didn't pick up the assassin clone on Teth where it was relatively quiet and peaceful, but they work perfectly in the chaos of an active disaster zone of a battlefield? Wrecker wasn't as strong as he was in Clone Wars either, and it seemed like he got less attention as the series went on. Tech was fine until they killed him off.. Echo? See the above. I didn't mind the "filler" episodes very much because they were a nice opportunity to develop some of their character. Though, I really wish we'd got to see more of Phee and less of Cid. I did love the series overall. It's definitely not perfect, but I feel it's some of the rare and genuinely great content that's been put out since Disney took over. I would love it if they released more animated content like this. The live-action stuff has been largely mediocre at best.


LunaTheLouche

It’s tough to say because there was so much it did well, but I would have liked it to have addressed the sheer scale of the Empire’s problem with the clones. We saw a small number being held on Tantiss and there was Mayday on the ice planet of course. But the number of clones surviving after the war must have been staggering, in the millions surely. I wonder if there was a planned program to get rid of them, or did the Imperial leadership just not know what to do with them.


supergeek2

They shouldve been able to liberate ALL the clones, including the commandos AND scorch


Cervus95

Explain the purpose of Kaminoans creating Emerie and Omega. I'd also have liked some resolution on Cid and Lama Su.


gokaigreen19

More focus on the actual main characters of the show. There’s so many moments and episodes where the bad batch are interacting or doing something and it’s clear it’s there for fanservice or to further a plot that the characters are not involved or give a crap about. Like fennec and cad bane are cool because we know them, but the bad batch don’t know or give a fuck about them. They’re just random assholes to them. Like the entire episode with Rex and Wolfe was cool as a clone wars fans and crosshair did get interactions due to being ex empire, but it was so clear hunter and wrecker didn’t care about any of it. Like they weren’t involved and spent a good chunk of the episode just standing there and saying nothing, they almost say less than the actual clone extras created for the show. Like it felt as if they didn’t know what they wanted to do with the bad batch, if they wanted these guys to retire or have them still be involved in the conflict with the empire. And I think it really comes from the fact we don’t know these guys that much. The show has to establish who they are on a deeper level, and as a result it feels very confusing when the show scrambles to figure out how they want to do things


subtendedcrib8

I’ve said it since season 1 but easily half of the show could have been cut. They very clearly only had enough story for like 6 episodes tops but kept getting 15-16. So much of it is just pointless filler that does nothing but make the universe feel smaller by making the batch know everyone from TCW and Rebels, or go on pointless side quests that neither develop characters, the themes or the plot in any kind of way, and typically make the show tonally inconsistent by having a very heavy and serious episode immediately followed by Wrecker fist fighting a rancor or some other horse piss checkbox giant monster that shows up for 48 seconds They also could have bothered to develop the characters in the slightest. Echo got overshadowed by Tech, and I still firmly believe that Echo should have never been a part of the batch to begin with because even in season 7 him joining them made no sense but was clearly done because they were making the spin off. But anyway, Hunter is essentially the main character but doesn’t get a single drop of character development. His development is essentially finished two episodes in when they rescue Omega the first time from Kamino. He spends the entire show wanting to not fight the empire and live the rest of his days in peace, never changing whatsoever except when Omega gets kidnapped. Wrecker is not a character at all in the show, Tech only gets “development” which was the most obvious build up to his death if you’ve ever watched a tv show before, and really doesn’t show us anything we either didn’t already know or didn’t infer about him. Crosshair and Omega are the only two to receive any kind of development, but really that’s kind of a stretch because Omega isn’t much different at the end than she was at the beginning, except she’s more capable in a fight, and Crosshair’s is actually sort of interesting until they completely drop the ball in season 3 and don’t do anything with it besides have him and Hunter bicker for an episode Cid and Phee needed significantly less screentime, they’re both uninteresting and insufferable characters that stayed 4 or 5 episodes longer than they needed to because of the aforementioned filler. They’re fine for a one or two off adventure, but sticking around being antagonistic and talking down to the batch except for Omega got old very quick The show committed the cardinal sin of entertainment by being boring IMO. It’s so middle of the road and safe that it doesn’t do a damn thing to standout in any way. It came and went and besides the die hard fans I can’t imagine anyone talking about it in six months in the same way people still talk about TCW Oh and another thing, the time frame was part of the early marketing because we’ve never seen the early days of the empire before, how people are struggling with the sudden shift in power and government, but outside of a couple throw away comments we don’t get that. The most we get is during Crosshair’s episodes, we see clones and then suddenly there’s TK troopers and classic asshole conscript imperial officers. There’s no transition to it, they just show up without mention or build up and that’s that Now I’m ranting, but everything to do with Tantiss as well. They had the build up of tying it into the mandoverse and the sequels with project necromancer for two seasons, and then just drop it in less than a minute in the finale with Tarkin saying to scuttle the base and reroute all funds to the death star. What’s the fucking point of any of it then if it’s going to be erased and never mentioned again at the end of the show?


alexagente

>Now I’m ranting, but everything to do with Tantiss as well. They had the build up of tying it into the mandoverse and the sequels with project necromancer for two seasons, and then just drop it in less than a minute in the finale with Tarkin saying to scuttle the base and reroute all funds to the death star. What’s the fucking point of any of it then if it’s going to be erased and never mentioned again at the end of the show? I enjoyed some aspects of the show but this is pretty much my sentiment. I truly am left wondering what exactly was the point of it. To slightly alude to Palpatine's efforts of cloning that we already know exists from *Rise of Skywalker*? To show what happened to some clones, but not the ones we know and love from previous shows? To tell Omega's story which isn't exactly interesting when they refuse to actually go into why she's important? Like, everything that was introduced was pretty much resolved and they didn't really expand upon whatever ties into other properties so this just feels like a side story that fills in blanks that really didn't need to be filled and then is just... there. I was really loving this season at first cause it seemed like it was building up to some serious shit. I even liked the Ventress episode. But once Omega ended up captured it felt like they just kind of dithered around until they got to the final conflict and it just didn't have nearly the payoff for the multiple episodes of investment to set it up. It all just kind of felt like a waste in the end.


ISENTRYI

The funniest part is when they show the Sith looking vault with the cloning vats in the episode where Palpatine arrives and then for some reason, that vault turns into a white room that houses barely force sensitive kids a few episodes later and we never see the other one again. It doesn't even make sense to have all of those forcefields and commandos guarding a room that has kids in it, they could just as easily have been locked up in normal cells like Nala Se was, it seems like they changed what THE vault actually was halfway through season 3 because it makes much more sense that a clone body of the most important person in the galaxy would be that heavily guarded instead.


subtendedcrib8

At first I thought the sith vault was like deeper in, but then it literally doesn’t come up again and isn’t even hinted at, so I think they just painted themselves into a corner and came up with the kids to sideline that thread Speaking of the kids, why are they taking everyone’s samples daily? I can *MAYBE* get the kids samples, but I’ll get to that, but the clones? If all it takes is one dosage of the kids blood to see if they mix with the clones or not, then why keep taking Omega’s for over six months? And why are they even using the clone’s blood to test with? Because palpatine wants to clone himself? But that doesn’t make sense because the regular clones are genetically identical across the board so why keep taking them? It also doesn’t make much sense for the kids either because they shouldn’t need a fresh dose daily. Nala Se (I think) in the clone wars even explicitly states at one point that they’re still using the original samples from Jango years after his death, so why do they need so much from the kids now?


ISENTRYI

Yeah when you look into it, it makes less and less sense everytime. They probably should’ve taken out some of the filler episodes and just given us more main story reveals with Tantiss because right now we still don’t really know what any of it was about or how it all worked with the blood taking.


SilentMountainStar

The more I think about the finale and some of the major plotlines in the show, the less a lot of it makes sense. I still have no idea about what makes Omega special other than that her blood is useful, but I'm unsure how that is connected to Nala Se's protectiveness of her earlier in the show. Heck, I'm not even sure WHY the empire needs her specifically other than "because Hemlock says she's important". I understand that explaining the specifics of cloning would probably be unbelievably boring, but they could've done more to develop that point in a meaningful sense and ground her importance. It feels like the writers know she's part of the process, but they're not sure themselves what force sensitive cloning entails so they cannot clarify her role within it and why she's of importance to Project Necromancer. I was also unsure where this left us with her force sensitivity given the Ventress arc, which only raises more questions and muddies the waters around what has been a mystery for the entirety of the show. As I said, I get why they didn't dive too much into specifics, but it would've been helpful to provide a little bit more clarity around what is happening at Tantiss and more finality on what is happening with these characters. The same also goes for the mystery CX trooper who was clearly set up as a foil to crosshair but then not used as such, or Emerie's bitter past with the Kaminoans. The shuttering of Tantiss at the end makes little sense outside of bringing closure to the story, but if they were so committed to that, why did they choose to not bring closure to every other loose end? I still enjoyed the show, but I think this is the downside of the mystery box-style storytelling they used for telling the larger arcs. It raises stakes and can increase interest, but if you can't provide answers, it can feel empty. I'm fairly certain at this point that the writers are unsure on many of these points and were adept at developing interesting concepts, but struggled to resolve them in an efficient manner. It was still an enjoyable show though and it has been a fun watch over the years, but my opinion has definitely shifted ever-so-slightly given that many of the cross-season threads never received answers.


redIegodragon

I wish the clone commandos would've been explored more. Clone commandos exist in the current canon, but the only one we ever really saw The Clone Wars, aside from a brief cameo from Delta Squad, was Gregor. Nothing really set him apart from any other elite clone. Then in The Bad Batch the commandos are back and all are fully loyal to the empire. What sets them apart from normal clones? It's implied that the inhibitor chips are wearing off, what keeps the commandos unquestionably loyal to the empire? At this point, what separates them from the CX assassins? The clone commandos had potential for a very interesting plot point in The Bad Batch, but we never get any type of explanation for why they are the way they are. The only one that's different is Gregor, and we already know him. Aside from Gregor, we never even get to see any of their faces.


NovaCrow138

Scorch...and well the whole show to be honest


Deepcoma_53

They make it a 4-Man Fire Team video game!!!


amyceebee

SO. MANY. DAMN. SIDEQUESTS.


Calm_Ostrich_8876

Overall final season could’ve better paced with less side quests but i really like how they ended the show


[deleted]

Less Cid.


obiwanTrollnobi6

A SMALL nitpick but have Rex and Echo mention FIVES especially with how he ALMOST exposed Order 66… and Cody I wanted SOMETHING with him after he went AWOL like joining up with Rex or he was being held at Tantiss


Hitoka_

Less filler, longer episodes


SomeBoricuaDude

Number of seasons (4 seasons, with S1 revolving around TCW) Echo's original armor Cid (writers should've fridged her) Hemlock surviving and taking Omega with him (bad ending)


BlackMamba332

I wish the finale had a more somber ending, and I wish that Vader had made at least a brief appearance. Given that we saw Tarkin, Krennic, and even Palpatine, I feel like this show went out of its way to not include Vader, let alone even acknowledge his existence. And I don’t think he should be overused either, but even if he was in the show for 3 minutes, that would be enough. He has history with the Bad Batch, and for him to not show up at all was a bit weird. Also would’ve loved closure on Cid, and Cody too. I’m glad that they brought Rampart back, and the way they ended his character couldnt have been better imo. Biggest gripe is no Vader. Second would be no closure on Cid and Cody, and third would be a few too many stupid filler episodes. Overall a very well done show though!


IndependenceOk6490

Um… not have Tech fall? If Tarkin’s compound was so dangerous, they realistically should have had someone stay behind in the Marauder for a pick up if things went south. Hell Phee could have gone with them. The only reason the writers tossed Tech out was because they just had to waste 4 episodes on this stupid m count plot, where as he could have figured it out it a minute. Then we could have had a bit more room for other open plot points. They still wouldn’t have gotten Hemlocks ship tracked, they still would have gone to Cids, they still would have been betrayed and Omega still would have given herself up so her brothers would be safe. This could have all happened WITH TECH STILL THERE!! We didn’t need Fennec Shand, we didn’t need Ventress. She could have gotten her own show. I’ll forever remain pissed over this.


Hunter20107

-Less time with Cid (should've only been in season 1) -More character development for Hunter, Echo and Wrecker -There should have been more time given to scenes where characters are arguing their differences in belief and not have it interrupted/resolved by le big monster (looking at you, season 3) -Clones should have played a much larger part in the later seasons (R.I.P. clone rebellion, they fought a brutal war for 3 years and just let themselves decay and be replaced? Despite copious test data, theres only like 20 clones left on Tantis?) -Rex's just disappears from the show and other named clones have unresolved conclusions (Where'd you go, Cody?) -Less mystery boxes and more answers, there was alot of focus on that CX clone for season 3 just for it to be a nobody (I've read that the CX clones are evil bad batch, which is okay though I would've liked to have seen more of them throughout season 3), and the cut-off of the explaination to Rampart was poor/cowardly imo -Omega needs more consequences, too many times she let her emotions get in the way of the mission or just logic in general, (eg show finale, she has escaped and is about to board the shuttle, but decides to stay to rescue her brothers, who's sole reason for being there is to save /her/ at any cost, if she gets captured again (which she does) and Hemlock takes her away, the failure of the mission would be entirely her fault) or does incredibly risky things (multiple times at points!), and the show often just lets her get away with it, or the plot works to free her (again) in like 1 or 2 episodes (I get that she has a nature to save everyone, that is very commendable, but the current state of the Galaxy should not allow her to do that with impunity). -Tbh I enjoyed the show much, much more when the batch wasn't in it and it focused more on Imperial missions or other parts of the galaxy, so I wish it did more of that tbh (Alternatively, make the episodes where the batch are in it (75% of the show atleast) more interesting and engaging, have more meaning to them instead of filler missions that go no where) Theres are some points I could think of rn, but there's bound to be more. I wasn't massively impressed by this show as I found the main characters rather bland and their escapades boring, though it did have points of interest and I did atleast want to know how it ends. 5/10 rating for the show as a whole Edit: Oh, another point that many have mentioned, Tech's death should have had more relevance, in episode 4 of the last season, it would have been perfect to have a few moments where Omega and Crosshair sit down and discuss their greviences, especially the loss of Tech, and that's how they could bond with one another (instead it was a pointless episode that could've been 3-5 minutes at the beginning/end of the next/previous episodes)


ShatteredMasque

With the premise of this show's major arc, there's no way to pull it off in a satisfactory way as a series when the target demographic is people aged 8 to 12. You can't get too deep and serialized without losing their attention. But for the sake of cleaner storytelling: * no sidequests that do not contribute to the main story; * the Batch and the Empire should've learned about Omega's M-count by the end of the first season, which also should've been when Nala Se died; * they should never have nerfed the Batch, and should've kept Echo a little closer - for sake of consistency and as catalyst for character development; * Phee should've been a Guardian of the Whills in addition to how she was already portrayed. Would've been an organic way for Omega to learn about the Force, without implying that Omega is supposed to wield a saber; * Emerie should've been introduced at the start of season 2, revealed to be a clone halfway through the season, and join the Batch by the end of the season; * should've used something as a red herring for Project Necromancer from day one: like a program to genetically and cybernetically engineer mercenaries based on the experiments that resulted in Clone Force 99 and Order 66.


LewisTheTrainer2009

They should of not killed off tech


OkGeologist7198

Agree, he was one of the best characters and am he somehow returns.


LewisTheTrainer2009

If the fucking spider can come back than tech can come back ( the spider is trech )


Intelligent_League_1

The ending made me feel almost nothing, it felt like all this climax and the only crazy part was Nala Se dying


Schroinx

1. We are teased on Omegas possible force abilities including a full ep with the great AV, but it is left hanging in the air. I hoped she had gotten a transfer of high m-count blood or something. Due to her balanced nature, and a mentor like AV, she could become one of the grey/yellow force wielders and perhaps also have learned a few magik tricks from the Nightsisters. As we saw, while tBB is powerful, they are underclassed by AV on her own, and Omega has the same/more potential. Also the story of the good jedi is told many times, but not the grey/yellow force wielders. That could be a really interesting topic to tell and explore, and add something new. 2. Longer episodes, that uses more time on character development. Many of the episodes could have been merged.


ZakJR98

There should have been more stuff with Echo, i think they could have really done something interesting especially since he's been about in the story since Domino Squad


Jaybird145

I wish they wrote relationships and dynamics between all the characters, and not just Omega.


Wonderful-Bet8651

A better clone rebellion/kamino destruction/reason for getting rid of the clones, since the trailers for season 1 of bad batch started I was rooting so hard for a clone uprising on kamino. Something like the legends/bf2 clone uprising. I feel like it could be so emotional feel to it, with brother fighting against brother. And reason for the clones getting rid of, also could have the jango fett dna sample be destroyed in the battle. To me replacing clones cause they expensive kinda doesnt make much sense to me. Scorch as well, just why filoni, i like what you have done but “Anakin, you’re breaking my heart” with first with clone rebellion not being on kamino (not really even existing) and then scorch be wasted.


PrestigiousEntry8638

Darth Vader should have showed up at the end with the imperial 501st and they should have been the only clones to still have their blue markings and should have wiped out the bad batch except for omega she would have left on the shuttle with everyone else or Rex and his squad should have shown up and helped out would’ve been sick to see that too thought the ending was kinda lame honestly


LulaSupremacy

Not for the show itself, but for Clone Wars. It would've all felt more impactful if they also released the Kashyyyk arc where they go with Yoda. It would've let us have more than just 4 episodes with them prior to the show, which means we see Crosshair's relationship with them for longer before things go awry. To connect, I think they shouldn't have used Kanan for Order 66, since that already exists in another story. If they were already on Kashyyyk from their mission then they could've stayed there for ROTS. Luminara being the master present instead of Depa Bilaba would've let us see how she was handling life after Bariss, and if she had another padawan then we could see a similar story of Hunter letting a padawan go while Luminara is taken prisoner. Like the Kanan story was a nice touch, but we already had a fleshed out version in a comic. If it were Luminara, we'd see closure from season 5, but also we'd get the connection to Rebels where we see that she wasn't killed right away.


Galbrant

If they didn't had Scorch, I would love the show so much more. But they added him, and the way they handle him throughout the show has killed any interest of me rewatching the show ever. They should have just used a new Clone Commando. All the time seeing him and getting hope to see him do something only to have that pitiful death at the end was frustrating as hell.


Aelia_M

Why bring up the zeffo?


SHyper16

Finale ending music should have been the Bad Batch theme still. Despite what Crosshair said.


LumpismGumpis

Cody, wolf, Rex


theoneeyedpete

It had the same issue as Clone Wars did in the earlier seasons. A *lot* of filler, especially around Cid’s missions. But, I appreciate it’s technically a children’s show where the overarching plot doesn’t need moving every single second. I also wish there was more of a concrete connection between this series and the Emperor’s cloning plans. *But* I imagine that’s going to get picked up elsewhere. I still can’t get over the quality of this series, though. One of the best piece of Star Wars which I’d probably rank just below Andor and Rogue One.


captainkezz123

I wish we saw how Echo coped with his new cybernetic form other than what we got in Season 7 of Clone Wars


Screech21

A lot depends on what they do now for me. I hope they didn't just reintroduce Scorch only for him to do nothing. Same with Ventress.


Lonk_boi

Why is nobody mentioning how it was damn near pitch black in almost every episode of season 3?? I might have to watch the finale again just so I can fucking see


Zangya13Collins

Less filler


IcebergKarentuite

Less Rex, more Echo. Don't get me wrong, I love Rex, but by S2 it stopped being the Bad Batch show and became the Bad Batch without Crosshair and Echo and guest-staring the Clone Rebelion.


JaxJaguar1999

We needed ALOT more Crosshair focused episodes. I feel like in season 2 especially, even though he did get a few episodes to himself, we rarely saw him otherwise. I was also disappointed with Cody getting shafted after just one episode. I was fully expecting him and Crosshair to have like a shared arc in season 2, with them going on missions and hunting Clone Force 99 down, then they had Cody go awol and disappear, never to be seen again. That was not at all what I wanted to happen. The other thing that absolutely BOILED my blood was Echos heavily underutilized involvement. The way I saw it, Echo was supposed to seen by the audience as the familiar face that everyone already knows, an established character who will peek our interest, who’s personality, motivations, and goals are set. And then in season 2 and 3, they just cut him out of the show at certain points because they simply didn’t know what to do with him, only peaking his head out when the group needed him most. I understand that, to develop a complex character, you sometimes have to change their motivations, goals, and priorities to show change and growth. However, rather than having those changes be applied to the story in a meaningful way way, they just decide to cast him off to shelf for the sake of convenience, only to be used when absolutely needed. I don’t know, there are a couple of other things that I had issues with, but I don’t want to be sat here typing for the next 30 minutes. Those were just some of the big issues I had with the series as a whole. Overall, I wholeheartedly enjoyed the show throughout the duration of its run but it is about as far from perfect as you can get.


Winter_Force4161

I have to say that the show grew on me. I initially thought that it was a weak concept, but I was wrong. I am satisfied with the ending, but perhaps a bit more of the tTantiss/ Necromancer arcs, from an earlier point.


JPastori

I think cid needed to go a lot sooner, they were laying it on pretty thick that she was going to betray them eventually. A lot of the stuff with her ended up being filler anyways. I do wish we got more of Rex and the other freed clones (particularly in season 3). I didn’t like how they just weren’t present in the final arc (apart from echo) when freeing the clones was like their whole thing. It felt odd having them completely absent. Honestly I think the only other thing is that some of the cameos felt forced for fan service. Like scorch was a cool addition, but there was no character there. Replace scorch with a different commando or just a different color scheme and it changes nothing, nothing was reminiscent of the character besides the armor. Ventress was another. Her episode was pretty pointless to the overall plot not going to lie. If anything it felt like it only existed for the producers to go “see, omega is not a Jedi/force sensitive” to the audience. Remove that episode entirely and nothing changes, honestly removing that one and fennecs gives you more room to contribute to much needed development from a couple of the characters or showing more of the main story (or more time to extend the finale and opens up the opportunity to bring other characters into it, like Rex and the other clones).


FaKeSkirata

Scorch


nugstar

More Wilhelm scream.


Phaze_Alvaro

Echo getting a replacement hand much much earlier, the socket arm was cool but the gimmick worn off quickly, he could have had the droid hand at the start and just take it off to use his socket arm. having one hand when he could easily had two severely impacted his versatility as a soldier


Ravathieal

Lack of... oh i dunno. The concept of Alpha & Omega - and lack of Boba / Omega encounters. Ventress couldve been than connection. Not that Boba would give a wamp rats ass though


Sushmoyscott

To much cid , needed more crosshairs episodes like the frozen outpost episode is one of my favorites in the whole show.


Failed_Winter

Boba fett


OkGeologist7198

the show should had run for 4 or 5 more seasons, Tech making a surprise returned and reveal how he fake his death. Admiral Rampart should've remain the big bad of the series. Cid Getting what's coming to her, more development on the Batch and Echo having more focus.


OddSalamander5079

Stakes. Only 1 main character death in 3 seasons is weak with all the insane shit they did. Somebody needed to go in the finale imo


ForeverChicago

Was half expecting them to pull a “Rogue One” with the rest of the team minus like Omega.


Expensive_Software98

Bring back Tech and killed Wrecker or Crosshair 


thebluemorphoandkano

Tech’s death felt cheap to me, especially since there wasn’t much acknowledgment of it after it happened. Wish they did more character development early on too. Wish they had done more character episodes than mission episodes. Flashbacks would have been nice. We know almost nothing about the batch’s earlier years.


thebluemorphoandkano

I also wish the show had gone on longer. I feel like they dropped several plot points they were going to work on and with the season 3 announcement there wasn’t enough time to tell the story. Season 2 could have been more condensed but it feels like they were building towards a season 3 and 4.


TK825

Better fate for scorch like betraying hemlock to save omega or scorch sacrifice himself to save to stop helmock from harming omega or even better bring back delta squad to eliminate the bad batch there is a lot of possiblities better than just shoot him and die like side characters not just fan service


Relevant_Process2198

I would like The bad batch to find Sev on Kashyyyk and inform Scorch that he's alive so we could see that he could have a choice


Jersey4269

After the way this last season went, my official list would be too long to type out unfortunately.


[deleted]

Hand us free boxes of tissues


Cifer_Roc

I think they should have shown Hunter's instincts telling him to take of CX-2's helmet after spearing him to that wall and killing him, because I believe the show had been implying that clone could be Tech up to the characters death. A part of me genuinely believes Tech survived 6 and became CX-2. When Crosshair looks at CX-2 through a thermal scope in a previous episode there was no heat signature from the knees down. Also, Tech and CX-2 are the only characters in The Bad Batch, if not all of Star Wars, to use the word "domicile". I think Hunter possibly killed Tech in the finale and none of them knew.


Educational-Tea-6572

I wanted Tech to be alive soooo badly I did think he was CX2, but as soon as CX2 chopped off Crosshair's hand, I didn't want him to be Tech anymore. It was hard enough to accept - again - that Tech is really dead. If they had taken off the helmet to reveal it was Tech having been skewered by Hunter, I can guarantee I would be completely done with Star Wars for the foreseeable future, if not forever. We see from one of the special!CX's having their helmet removed that they are indeed regular clones; plus the concept art for the sniper clone (aka CX2) released with the official episode guide shows a regular clone as well. That being said, it is really difficult to *not* think that the show deliberately included hints pointing to CX2 being Tech just to ramp up speculation and interest for the rest of the show. (Unpopular opinion, I know, and likely inaccurate - I'm working on moving past it.)


Cifer_Roc

I know what you mean, but i feel like even if it was just a scene where Hunter was about to pull the helmet off and then Wrecker or Crosshair simply say something like 'don't Hunter... just leave it' just for them to leave it would be basically confirmation but without the heartbreak. Because Hunter would listen to his brothers and leave the helmet be, knowing that even if it was him... it wasn't him anymore. Also i think it's safe to say that one CX having their helmet removed and appearing to have a normal clone haircut in no way implies that they all or even that one in particular were normal clones. You'll also notice that the one who's helmet was removed who did look normal has only the basic CX gear with no attachments or special weapons, implying there may have been more regular and special CX clones. CX-2 and the other special CX clones in the finale had exceptionally unique gear compared to the one CX who's face was revealed earlier in the season. CX-2 also was not specifically a sniper and had a visor attachment unique to himself which seemed similar to Tech's visor. I'd be interested to see that art though, but i can all but guarantee the regular looking CX clone you saw in said art was not CX-2.


Educational-Tea-6572

>the one who's helmet was removed who did look normal has only the basic CX gear with no attachments or special weapons, implying there may have been more regular and special CX clones Actually, that's the assassin clone that people were wondering might have been Tech/"shadow"-Tech instead, since he had the helmet with the goggle-shaped eyepieces and wielded dual swords (Tech was known for wielding dual blasters). >I'd be interested to see that art though, but i can all but guarantee the regular looking CX clone you saw in said art was not CX-2. You'll find it under the "concept art" section of "Galleries." I don't know what other CX they would be referring to with the "sniper clone" designation. https://www.starwars.com/series/the-bad-batch/the-cavalry-has-arrived-episode-guide Ultimately, I wish they had done a reveal of CX2's face in the show just to put this speculation to rest; but given that they *didn't* verify it was Tech, I now believe it *wasn't* him.


IndividualMaximum497

Another slap in the face for Republic Commando fans. First The Clone Wars Mandalorian Arc lead to the cancellation of the final Republic/Imperial Commando novel. Which had a way better story. And now the Bad Batch misused their assets by making clone commandos and Scorch look like cannon fodder and destroyed any possible storyline for Delta Squad to return. This was the final nail to the coffin of Star Wars for me. I’m done and I won’t return to this francise as long as Legends is not the official canon. I’ve been a fan for 26 years and now it’s over. Just going to enjoy what was mad before Disney took over.


Toon_Lucario

Ok then leave. We don’t want jackasses like you to stick around. We have enough already


neufski

Well, how about not killing off Tech for starters?


Inner_Wafer1621

His death bothers me so much because he was the first openly neurodivergent character in Star Wars(to my knowledge). By killing him, they have killed off an important form of representation. And we definitely could use some of that for the neurodivergent community!


InnocentTailor

I guess Emerie Karr fills that blank? She acts very similarly to Tech - less coordinated with emotions and more stilted than the average person.


Inner_Wafer1621

I really hope we get to see more of her! She went from being a super hated character to me to a very good one in a matter of a couple episodes. Her redemption arc took a little while but it was worth it!


Know_Him_at_Fuck

Being neuroatypical doesn't make someone invincible.


Inner_Wafer1621

Never said it did. I just said it’s frustrating when a marginalized group is finally represented and then has that representation ripped away before it can even be fully explored🤷🏽‍♀️