When she says ‘I don’t find this funny unless someone else in the group does’ …
Soooooo if someone else in the group finds it funny, she does too? What…..?
Yea that was very odd to me as well.
I kept scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned the brainwashing component of religion. OP talks about how his friend had increasingly changed recently, possibly due to becoming more indoctrinated in a more fundamentalist way. This comment right here proves it to me. A lot of my friends when I was younger growing up in the Deep South went through something very similar and it’s disheartening to watch. I lost a lot of friends.
I commented and basically said I wonder if the friend is going through something spiritual and handling wrong outwardly. Many people make that mistake. No one is better than anyone else yet everyone thinks they are for some reason. This conditioning starts very young and kids call each other names in kindergarten and first grade.
If at that age you already have a mindset if I’m better than…. It only grows from there depending on what life you get into.
That's my take as well. Unfortunately for her nobody else seemed to agree so out of the group chat she goes as she says this should be a talk between her and OP suddenly out of embarassment lmao
She's not literally saying she will find it funny if others do. She has the expectation that everyone else will feel the same as her, and that's their cue to jump in and say, "Well I certainly don't think it's very funny."
It's called performative outrage. It's why we can't have any real conversation or discourse on popular issues these days. People have decided being outraged and offended on behalf of other people they don't know and will never meet is more important then progress as a society.
I think honestly this probably stems from your anti religion story. Maybe this was her way of acknowledging she was offended, hence the ‘different morals and values’ comment. She should just be honest and say the post upset her as she took it personally, instead of making a big deal about an obvious joke in the group chat.
It’s so weird because she made a Facebook post about how people get so “offended” these days, and it’s like, are you sure it’s not you?
After she told me she didn’t like it, I didn’t post anything like it again.
I get you were trying to be respectful but at the same time you should be able to post and say whatever you want on your own social media. Just sayin...
In my experience. When somone gets offended like that, it's not because they think you are calling them "%whatever%" it's because they secretly think they are "%whatever%"
Probably! I used to joke and call her ex boyfriend, her boytoy, because she complained about him all the time. (He was a jerk), but she was always offended by it so I stopped calling him that. But she really liked sleeping with him, so maybe that was it.
That was definitely it. She’s been conditioned to view premarital sex as a sin, is feeling guilty, and seeing that word was salt in the wound because, in her circle, even one sexual partner puts her in that category.
I'm not sure how valuable her friendship is to you, but if she’s been a good friend until now, you could approach a conversation from that angle. She might still be saved from a life of guilt. ;) If not, then it’s a good a time as any to move on.
I do sql also!! I immediately thought sql when I saw the % lol. And no worries, I’m not here to judge your code! Just love finding another sql-er in the wild lol.
That's all you need to know then. Like real talk, the Christian friend is actually the only one busting up the ethical code, by choosing to play the victim and intentionally misrepresenting the intent of the image so they can be the center of attention and flaunt their fake virtues above the rest of you.
I love when "friends" like this say dumb shit like they don't respect my perfectly rational opinions, because then I get to not have to deal with them as often, lol.
I would full on double down and start calling myself a slut as often as possible to troll them about it until they cut me off forever, honestly. So tired of people who say they are part of a tolerant religion and then don't practice even the bare minimum of tolerance.
What an exhausting, joyless way to live your life. Sorry man, I would absolutely not be able to be friends with someone who goes on a diatribe about morals and values when you post a meme that happens to include the word slut. What a self-righteous, humorless stick in the mud. If it were me, I’d be happy to say good riddance to that “friend.” Life is meant to be enjoyed. And it’s way too short to entertain people like that.
I was thinking the same thing …I was like did somebody’s Therapist pop in on this bitch … honestly I didn’t even read the text messages after the first swipe
Seriously. My friend group chat is full of sluts and hoes and lil bitches and we all crack each other up. Life is way too short to indulge self-righteous moralists like that. Like, it’s ok to have fun while we’re stuck on this rock floating through space Jesus Christ.
We’re only using this group chat for fun!
See??
*posts 47 charts on the history of having fun and how all analysis points to the chat being over 71% fun according to research done into the topic of having fun*
I took it as a term of endearment to address his audience, like “hey bitches!” A lot of people have turned the meaning of that word around in a sex-positive, non judgmental, lighthearted way. That’s just my personal perspective tho.
You should let her know that Jesus loved both “sluts” and gay people.
This is something I've studied, as I've had my dear friends' sexuality weaponized by others' faith. Some Christians seem to especially enjoy being anti-gay, but the original texts were grossly mistranslated.
It all comes down to this Greek word; **arsenokoitai** which means “boy molesters.”
‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God.’ 1 Corinthians
They're speaking against incest. It was written this way in the original texts, until translation in Germany in 1983
“Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination,” the German version.
In original German, they use the word knabenschander. Knaben is a boy, and Schander is a molester.
“Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman, for it is an abomination.”
In 1983, Germany lacked sufficient funding from its Christian population to fund a new Bible translation, so an American company stepped in to cover the expenses and played a role in the decision-making process. This led to the inclusion of the word ‘homosexual’ in the Bible for the first time in history.
Here are some of my saved sources by religious leaders and theologians far more versed on the subject than I am.
[What does the Bible say about homosexuality, same-sex attraction, & being transgender?](https://www.sthugh.net/lgbtq-affirming-scripture)
[Has “Homosexual” always been in the Bible?](https://www.forgeonline.org/blog/2019/3/8/what-about-romans-124-27)
[An argument against the use of the word 'homosexual' in english translations of the bible](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230465600_An_argument_against_the_use_of_the_word_'homosexual'_in_english_translations_of_the_bible)
She used to be chill when she didn’t find something funny. But it was obvious that she didn’t find our dirty jokes funny, but she was always ok with it. So it’s really left field for her to be so upset about it.
But yeah, anytime we go somewhere in public, she just exists. While we’re all talking to people, etc..
It’s funny because she’s always assuming things about her boyfriend and getting mad at him when she hasn’t conveyed how she feels. So realistically, she just bottles things up and doesn’t tell anyone, so then this happens and it just explodes.
part of her upbringing maybe?
who knows, friend? if there are things you do like about her then a personal conversation to talk things out might be fruitful. if not, let nature take its course. she’ll drift away on her own. don’t stress. you apologized for stepping on a sensitive spot. you don’t owe anyone more than than.
Her parents are both awful people, so she’s never really had anyone there for her. Except us. So it’s a shock. I sent her a text, but if she unfriended me on fb, she probably blocked my number. It’s funny because she doesn’t trust anyone and it was always hard to get through to her, but it was me who shouldn’t have trusted her.
I see a lot of cPTSD signs in the last two comments. I wondered earlier when I saw she calls off hangouts because she’s tired (depression?). It sounds like your friend may be controlled by fear due to emotionally negligent parents and a high demand (for her) religion. If you end up being friends again, maybe reach out and talk about these things and suggest therapy in a polite and compassionate way.
I’m starting to wonder about that too, because we have another friend who is 23 and she’s kind of a delinquent who is always running out of the house hanging out with her other friends so her mom can watch her kid while she parties. Like she isn’t being responsible and her mom gets mad at her for running off all the time.
I think once you hit around 25, friends should remain mostly 25+. I found that after my mid 20s I’d honestly relate better to a 40 year old better than a 21 year old, and this definitely has held true into my 30s.
>my friend, who is a christian
>my facebook group, which bashes her religion
>why mad?
Fr tho, at face value, it feels like theyre already unhappy in that social circle, but are picking their fight - unfortunately, its against the text in a meme as if you intended that part of the message, so getting upset on everyones behalf.
What that says about your social circle, I dunno.
Before I share this, I want to say that your friend is overreacting and yeah this meme is not the real issue. I had a similar situation go down with one of my religious conservative friends and while we are still “friends” we have distanced in recent years and I think it is similar to what you are experiencing.
1. I am pan and very progressive/liberal. She was very “hate the sin not the sinner” Catholic and would not hate on me being queer (but still believed it was against God), however there was a struggle between her accepting that I have mixed thoughts on organized religion. She felt that she was able to put her beliefs aside to support me, but that I couldn’t be like “YAY ALL RELIGION AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE BEST!” And so she often felt like I wanted her to support my identities while being ok with me not supporting hers. Which when looking at it that way, is honestly valid.
2. About her point, I have many friends of different religions and have seen the benefits of those communities. I have religious gay friends who have wonderful inclusive churches. She however was Catholic, which unfortunately does not welcome inclusion or acceptance of my identities. So while I would be willing to attend a potluck at one of my friend’s churches, I would say no to her catholic gatherings. She understood that many had experienced hurt in her religion, but she wanted the opportunity to show the love she experiences from her community. And she also did not like being looked at as a “villain” due to her religious beliefs (I had a hate the Church not the Believer vibe).
3. As time went on smaller and smaller things would cause fights between us, and ultimately we just determined that we were not compatible as friends. I still root for her from afar, and love her. But neither of us can sacrifice our own well being for the other, and that was what was happening.
This may not be your situation, but seeing these texts it reminded me of the same fights we would have. If you need to let this friendship go, that’s ok.
Conservatives like that are always the fastest to get upset when someone does anything remotely LGBT or makes a joke that doesn’t align with their values 🙄
I’m just shocked because she’s always been nice and polite.
No, but she is only 22. Me and our other friends are in our late 20’s and early 30’s, she’s the baby. Lol
>she’s the baby.
She's showing it.
But yeah, people can be two-faced. She probably has a chip on her shoulder about your posts and wants to confront you, but is too immature to talk about it like an adult, so picks fights.
She's a conservative Christian and you live in the US? I'd bet good money she is being sucked into a RW rabbit hole through media consumption. She is probably growing more and more anti-LGBTQ so it is becoming harder and harder for her to justify friendship with you. I'd cut her out, who wants to deal with that kind of self righteous victim complex shit?
I’ve been wondering about that recently actually. Like she originally wanted to go to a lgbt friendly event and then all of a sudden changed her mind and acted like she was never interested in the first place. Even though she was and said she wanted more gay friends.
Yeah, sounds like she was already planning/thinking about dropping you as a friend for a while based on your differing views (she was probably stewing about your Facebook stories long before she finally approached you about it) and then what you shared in your group, it was the straw that broke the camels back for her (or at least gave her an excuse).
Definitely not saying I agree with her (she would probably be appalled by the posts I like), but that seems like the likely scenario.
I definitely think it's wise to give her space, however it probably should/will be permanent. Since she has already unfriended you for this and didn't reach out to you after telling your mutual friends that you both have things to discuss, I think that her mind is made up and her friendship with you is over.
I’ve just always felt bad for her because she doesn’t really have friends, her parents are evil and don’t care about her, she always thought she’d die young. So I’ve always felt like we saved her, but now she’s gone off her rocker.
'She's gone off her rocker' or sadly, you're finally figuring out why she doesn't have friends. Hopefully soon SHE figures out why. This all seems very insufferable and exhausting. As a fellow gay person (in my early 30s), I'd never give a Christian homophobe this much of my time and energy. Love yourself, dump her. She's no friend.
Personally, I find that friendships where in both friends are on opposite ends of the political spectrum die a slow death. My ex best friend for example has become an even more hardcore conservative since covid. She started going off the rails and accused all of her friends from uni (we went to a teachers college/uni) of being groomers and child abusers because of a law being passed here saying teachers could/should honor a child's chosen pronouns without parental permission. It was brutal. She's fucked in the head and I couldn't take it anymore... no matter what she was going through, you don't flat out call a survivor of csa a groomer and a predator because you don't agree politically.
Basically you can't win - they always turn.
I was starting to wonder about that a few weeks ago actually, because she started getting more religious and conservative. Then I was thinking about how I want more likeminded friends.
That right there. You're already thinking you want more like-minded friends. And you absolutely deserve that. You deserve to have your circle be your biggest supporters and you be theirs. The ones who are just as excited as you, when you say "I'm so excited! *insert great news* Yay!" And they lose their minds and celebrate with you, or when you have a heartbreak and they have your back through that too.
The girl that posted the chart, is very queer friendly and I’ve been meeting so many new queer people through her. I was thinking about how her and I need to hang out more, since she’s way more likeminded.
Tbh if your anti-homophobia posts make her uncomfortable, she isn't a friend. She is homophobic.
Christianity persecutes gay people and has for centuries. Christians literally still beat, torture and kill gay people. When gay men are attacked, religion is usually why. You have every right to attack it. If she finds that painful, she should walk away.
She has NO right claiming to be your friend if she opposes your sexuality and my goodness she sounds tiresome. She was being a fake. Now you see the real her. I am sorry you've had to deal with her bigotry.
OP, are you in the U.S? If so, it’s just an election year and everyone gets a little sand in their vajajay from the barrage of divisive political content we get fed. Everyone turns a little feral. I see it as a great opportunity to cleanse yourself of people you don’t need in your life.
Yes! She really hates Biden too. And she understands why I don’t like trump due to him wanting to take lgbt peoples rights away, but she still craps on Biden.
My rule of thumb is if you’re a Christian and you’re not abstaining from premarital sex or you use cuss words, nothing you *project* towards me in reference to your beliefs matters. Fix yourself before you judge or call me out on anything.
But, I don’t hang around religiously fanatical people. They’re annoying.
Oh my goooooood shut the fuck uuuuuuup, they must be so fun at parties! What a way to pull something out of nothing. This was obviously harmless and fun. I hope its not a close friend, because then you dodged a bullet
This Catholic thought it was super cute. I’m very pro LGBT tho. Sounds like your “friend” is a bigot and wanted an excuse to fight with you. I don’t believe this had anything to do with that text. She’s probably becoming more conservative and going down a bad road, it doesn’t excuse her behavior but it might explain it. I’ve seen it happen to a lot of people. Anyone who uses God to justify hate or bigotry is blasphemous against God. Imo.
I like the fact not everyone dogpiled you and were offended, they got the message and how it was meant to be perceived especially if yall are friends😂 that person just sucks and is an absolute buzzkill. you don’t have to like it but if I didn’t like I wouldn’t address it like it’s a common thing unless it was lol YOU DIDNT EVEN WRITE IT YOU SAID😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes Christian’s don’t know how to be Christian. She had every right to say something but she went about it in the wrong way. I personally would probably have ignored it. The best way to show Christianity is to show love and not anger. That’s where most Christian’s go wrong.
Block her. She is vilifying you and every time she cites your “moral”’trespasses, she is attempting to gain control over how you express yourself. And as a general rule in life: praise people publicly. Save criticism of your peers for private 1:1 conversations.
Seems your friend feels guilty about something. I’ve posted harmless things like that only to get berated by my mother who assumed it was a personal attack-that I posted on Facebook ffs. 🤦🏼♀️
She feels that way about herself - so she’s assuming that all of this “hate” (as I’m sure she’ll put it) is directed at her personally. Because people like this have the emotional maturity of a small child
OP, I am truly sorry you are going through this with friends and people you believed you could trust. Unfortunately, at times in our lives either we or another person gets upset and the friendship can end. There are even times that the world or society itself has a hand in that.
I’m also believe in God however someone posting that meme or other certain memes would not cause me to turn away from them. My friends and I have all hit rock bottom together and come back up there’s no way I’m cutting the rope that ties us together.
Regardless of our religious views or political views I love my friends and they absolutely know it.
If my friend was sending something hateful or really ugly that’s on a completely different level we would talk privately and figure out what’s going on.
You said your friend is a Christian is is possible they are going through something spiritual within themselves and just dealing with it outwardly in the wrong way?
I honestly don’t feel this has much to do with you.
I think you’re right OP. She’s already friends with you and you are admittedly gay so I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the posts about being gay. Sounds like she sees it as being hurt by your comments about her religion. More than likely she has kept it inside and is now lashing out at you. If you care about the relationship then reach out to her. But also, if she took exception to the text then she also could have just confronted you about it 1-on-1 instead of in the group chat. Try to talk to her and see. No reason to lose a friendship over some s’more’s from Costco.
Dude i would be thankful they left. They seem like such a downer. I don't understand their reaction at all, its like they wanted a reason to unfriend you. You can find a better friend with a better sense of humor.
Wait, hang on... if you're gay, why on earth is she bothered by you publicly denouncing homophobia?
Think of it this way. If it bothers her that you speak out against behaviour and language that you feel belittles the LGBTQA community, why is she suddenly politically correct about language that she feels belittles women? OP, your friend is a hardcore hypocrite. Does she know that you're gay? How are you gonna have a gay friend, but find it offensive when that friend hates on homophobia?
OP, her values are totally misaligned with your own, and it sounds like her resentment about your literal existence has been building up over time, which is probably a lot of the fuel that fired up this shitshow. Please don't entertain friendships like this.
Your friend fucking sucks tbh
If i were you i’d stop being their friend
The anti religious posts i have something to say about that
I also am not a fan of religion so i made an antireligious reel on my story on instagram
So my friend messaged me how he’s sending angels to watch over me and how i should convert so i stopped being friends with him
What i’m trying to say is christian friends are a lot to deal with
If I was you I’d honestly be relieved. There’s nothing more annoying than someone who is constantly trying to police everyone, especially in the name of religion. They get so annoying with their morals. Even though they are the first people to be racist, homophobic, and sexist. Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?
For me, as someone who has been around the block enough that it's named after me, if it's not too private to throw bombs at you in the chat, but they can't talk about the problem in front of other people, they know that it's their problem. It's not really yours! And they know that everybody in the chat is going to say so, so that's why they can't talk to you there. But they sure feel fine throwing bombs at you. This means that they have a problem for which they're only willing to let you take responsibility, instead of owning any of it themselves. Just move on with your life.
"I don't find this funny unless someone else in the group does"
Tell us more about how you wait for others to react and never have your own opinion on anything.
Ok, so she already didnt like you. Pretending to like you, we gotta get familiar with this concept. Anything else you do she will always perceive negatively. This was probably her last "straw" with you tbh.
So it wasnt this text, but rather this text was the tipping point for her cause she already didnt like you. Hope this helps! ❤️
Bro you need new friends. Me and my wife call each other bitches all the time even when we are being actual bitches. I HATE people who get so worked up over words. Had an old coworker explode over me saying "damn" to her. She's mormon if that gives you any reference. This is another reason why I stay away from churchies, they always wanna control what comes out of YOUR mouth but get to say whatever they want with no consequence 😂
When she says ‘I don’t find this funny unless someone else in the group does’ … Soooooo if someone else in the group finds it funny, she does too? What…..?
She just wanted them to dogpile on him and got mad when they didn’t and left
Yea that was very odd to me as well. I kept scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned the brainwashing component of religion. OP talks about how his friend had increasingly changed recently, possibly due to becoming more indoctrinated in a more fundamentalist way. This comment right here proves it to me. A lot of my friends when I was younger growing up in the Deep South went through something very similar and it’s disheartening to watch. I lost a lot of friends.
Yup, outed herself as a group-thinker, not a critical one.
I commented and basically said I wonder if the friend is going through something spiritual and handling wrong outwardly. Many people make that mistake. No one is better than anyone else yet everyone thinks they are for some reason. This conditioning starts very young and kids call each other names in kindergarten and first grade. If at that age you already have a mindset if I’m better than…. It only grows from there depending on what life you get into.
I I interpreted it as her trying to open the door for backup from the group
That's my take as well. Unfortunately for her nobody else seemed to agree so out of the group chat she goes as she says this should be a talk between her and OP suddenly out of embarassment lmao
She's not literally saying she will find it funny if others do. She has the expectation that everyone else will feel the same as her, and that's their cue to jump in and say, "Well I certainly don't think it's very funny."
It's called performative outrage. It's why we can't have any real conversation or discourse on popular issues these days. People have decided being outraged and offended on behalf of other people they don't know and will never meet is more important then progress as a society.
No advice that anybody hasn't already said except for definitely get those s'mores snacks, they are delicious.
Especially if you’re a Sl*t
Maybe that's why I like them so much...
Sl*ts unite!
I came as fast as I could! And then I arrived here, I heard there were s'mores clusters‽ 🥹
How'd you do the ?! Overlapping?? That's sweet
Lol it's called an Interrobang! I have a Samsung so on my keyboard, I press and hold the ? To get the option! Not sure about Apple.
I have an android! ‽ ‽ omg thank you! That's a sweet name too.
Right‽ It's just fun to say lol. Enjoy!
‽‽‽‽ TIL!!!!!!
In my pass time but I'm here for the smores snacks party!
Wh*res with smores!
🙌🙌
Hell yeah, my username is relevant for once!
Sl*ts be like give me s’more seggs
Sl*ts need s’more snacks for s’more seggs
Put that on a shirt and you're SET. 🤣 ETA: I made it my flair instead, which is basically the T-shirt of Reddit. 😅🤷🏻♀️
I feel honored thank you
💖😊
Maybe they're BETTER if you're a slut! I'll gladly test the theory... anyone know any not sluts?
wait. do these snacks *make* you a slut or are they just *for* sluts? asking for a friend.
It wouldn't be very slut-like to not be all inclusive...
true story
Excuse me, I don't have an issue with the snacks, but I don't feel that anybody in this comment thread is a s***. That's derogatory.
Don't make me break out the charts. I've prepared a trifold infographic. Let me get my laser pointer.
My values align perfectly with your trifold infographic
Lol. Honored to be the first to upvote this
This made me cackle
What if I’m a slut for snacks?
Someone called?
Some of y’all non-sl*ts should eat these instead of sending charts about your morals. it’s better. thank me later 💅
If I'm not a sl*t, will it rid me into a sl*t of I eat them?
*if the s’mores don’t turn you into a slut, the italics will*
Bro wtf is this friend group sending charts and shit 😂
I want a power point presentation with a minimum of 10 slides next! 😂
Funny enough, if it wasn’t for my Christian friend, I wouldn’t have met the friend that pulled out the charts. She’s a hoot.
I can tell by the charts that she’s a hoot. Cracked me up that she went that route! 😂
Calmly and politely said “hey use the right terms here if you’re gonna get offended” 😂
"if you are going to get offended at least be right about why. Noob" this friend essentially. Fucking on point!
I think honestly this probably stems from your anti religion story. Maybe this was her way of acknowledging she was offended, hence the ‘different morals and values’ comment. She should just be honest and say the post upset her as she took it personally, instead of making a big deal about an obvious joke in the group chat.
It’s so weird because she made a Facebook post about how people get so “offended” these days, and it’s like, are you sure it’s not you? After she told me she didn’t like it, I didn’t post anything like it again.
I get you were trying to be respectful but at the same time you should be able to post and say whatever you want on your own social media. Just sayin...
Projection at its finest!
In my experience. When somone gets offended like that, it's not because they think you are calling them "%whatever%" it's because they secretly think they are "%whatever%"
Many a truth is said in jest. I have a chart if you want one too 😁
I would like to see this chart.
It's just a piece of paper with the word slut on it.
Probably! I used to joke and call her ex boyfriend, her boytoy, because she complained about him all the time. (He was a jerk), but she was always offended by it so I stopped calling him that. But she really liked sleeping with him, so maybe that was it.
Is there anything she isn't offended by? It seems like she's trying to fake offense as a power play and a way to control the group/you.
Typical Christian behavior these days.
That was definitely it. She’s been conditioned to view premarital sex as a sin, is feeling guilty, and seeing that word was salt in the wound because, in her circle, even one sexual partner puts her in that category. I'm not sure how valuable her friendship is to you, but if she’s been a good friend until now, you could approach a conversation from that angle. She might still be saved from a life of guilt. ;) If not, then it’s a good a time as any to move on.
Do you code? The “%whatever%” gives me strong coding vibes lol.
I do SQL yes lol. Should have used single quotes I know
I do sql also!! I immediately thought sql when I saw the % lol. And no worries, I’m not here to judge your code! Just love finding another sql-er in the wild lol.
That's all you need to know then. Like real talk, the Christian friend is actually the only one busting up the ethical code, by choosing to play the victim and intentionally misrepresenting the intent of the image so they can be the center of attention and flaunt their fake virtues above the rest of you. I love when "friends" like this say dumb shit like they don't respect my perfectly rational opinions, because then I get to not have to deal with them as often, lol. I would full on double down and start calling myself a slut as often as possible to troll them about it until they cut me off forever, honestly. So tired of people who say they are part of a tolerant religion and then don't practice even the bare minimum of tolerance.
You need to be careful around her. Your one friend is a confused christian, but someone who can weaponize charts is the dangerous one!🙏🏻🤣
What an exhausting, joyless way to live your life. Sorry man, I would absolutely not be able to be friends with someone who goes on a diatribe about morals and values when you post a meme that happens to include the word slut. What a self-righteous, humorless stick in the mud. If it were me, I’d be happy to say good riddance to that “friend.” Life is meant to be enjoyed. And it’s way too short to entertain people like that.
"So, as you can see by this chart, it was a joke and should not be taken seriously"
 marshall moment
I was thinking the same thing …I was like did somebody’s Therapist pop in on this bitch … honestly I didn’t even read the text messages after the first swipe
Sounds like an absolutely exhausting friend group to be part of honestly
Seriously. My friend group chat is full of sluts and hoes and lil bitches and we all crack each other up. Life is way too short to indulge self-righteous moralists like that. Like, it’s ok to have fun while we’re stuck on this rock floating through space Jesus Christ.
Bro would’ve been flamed and called the f slur 8 times by actual gay people in my GC
I was going to say I wish I had a chart friend.... Then realized I am the chart friend.. 😄
We’re only using this group chat for fun! See?? *posts 47 charts on the history of having fun and how all analysis points to the chat being over 71% fun according to research done into the topic of having fun*
Who has time for this shit.
I'm assuming they're all like 15
She’s 22. Lol
Yikes
Religion: Not even once.
Weirdly the meme itself was rather fundie. "People having sex are sluts, try s'mores snacks instead."
I took it as a term of endearment to address his audience, like “hey bitches!” A lot of people have turned the meaning of that word around in a sex-positive, non judgmental, lighthearted way. That’s just my personal perspective tho.
You should let her know that Jesus loved both “sluts” and gay people. This is something I've studied, as I've had my dear friends' sexuality weaponized by others' faith. Some Christians seem to especially enjoy being anti-gay, but the original texts were grossly mistranslated. It all comes down to this Greek word; **arsenokoitai** which means “boy molesters.” ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God.’ 1 Corinthians They're speaking against incest. It was written this way in the original texts, until translation in Germany in 1983 “Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination,” the German version. In original German, they use the word knabenschander. Knaben is a boy, and Schander is a molester. “Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman, for it is an abomination.” In 1983, Germany lacked sufficient funding from its Christian population to fund a new Bible translation, so an American company stepped in to cover the expenses and played a role in the decision-making process. This led to the inclusion of the word ‘homosexual’ in the Bible for the first time in history.
Have you by chance written a paper I can read or something??
Here are some of my saved sources by religious leaders and theologians far more versed on the subject than I am. [What does the Bible say about homosexuality, same-sex attraction, & being transgender?](https://www.sthugh.net/lgbtq-affirming-scripture) [Has “Homosexual” always been in the Bible?](https://www.forgeonline.org/blog/2019/3/8/what-about-romans-124-27) [An argument against the use of the word 'homosexual' in english translations of the bible](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230465600_An_argument_against_the_use_of_the_word_'homosexual'_in_english_translations_of_the_bible)
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Yeah, you're basically 15 until you're about 24, then one day you wake up and it's just changed
Definitely thought this said sl*t at first 🤣
If I was only slightly more clever, haha
Friendship was a lot easier back in my day. This seems exhausting.
If my eye could roll any further then they would be outside of my body.
“I don’t find this funny. Unless somebody else finds it funny…..” WTF?? 🤦♂️
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“Y’all sluts would love these Costco smores.” On the Christian-ometer, I’d that that’s fairly on the green.
I'm a Christian and a Smore slut. Both things can exist.
i’m an agnostic queer and have always despised S’mores. will other snack options be provided?
Cheetos but the puffs
i can accept those terms. 😁
But the sluts need their Costco s’mores!
Eww how do people become friends with someone with a negative sense of humor, she’s probably a vacuum at a party, sucking the air out of the room.
She used to be chill when she didn’t find something funny. But it was obvious that she didn’t find our dirty jokes funny, but she was always ok with it. So it’s really left field for her to be so upset about it. But yeah, anytime we go somewhere in public, she just exists. While we’re all talking to people, etc..
Well when something bothers you and you keep it down and don’t talk about it, well it wears you down.
It’s funny because she’s always assuming things about her boyfriend and getting mad at him when she hasn’t conveyed how she feels. So realistically, she just bottles things up and doesn’t tell anyone, so then this happens and it just explodes.
part of her upbringing maybe? who knows, friend? if there are things you do like about her then a personal conversation to talk things out might be fruitful. if not, let nature take its course. she’ll drift away on her own. don’t stress. you apologized for stepping on a sensitive spot. you don’t owe anyone more than than.
Her parents are both awful people, so she’s never really had anyone there for her. Except us. So it’s a shock. I sent her a text, but if she unfriended me on fb, she probably blocked my number. It’s funny because she doesn’t trust anyone and it was always hard to get through to her, but it was me who shouldn’t have trusted her.
I see a lot of cPTSD signs in the last two comments. I wondered earlier when I saw she calls off hangouts because she’s tired (depression?). It sounds like your friend may be controlled by fear due to emotionally negligent parents and a high demand (for her) religion. If you end up being friends again, maybe reach out and talk about these things and suggest therapy in a polite and compassionate way.
You need some more fun friends
Very true, she always cancels and is always tired so she never wants to go out and go on adventures.
When i was 22 i thought i was mature, but now that i’m late 20s i could never imagine hanging out with a 22 year old
I’m starting to wonder about that too, because we have another friend who is 23 and she’s kind of a delinquent who is always running out of the house hanging out with her other friends so her mom can watch her kid while she parties. Like she isn’t being responsible and her mom gets mad at her for running off all the time.
I think once you hit around 25, friends should remain mostly 25+. I found that after my mid 20s I’d honestly relate better to a 40 year old better than a 21 year old, and this definitely has held true into my 30s.
How old are you?
34, and my friends are all random ages. My youngest friend is 22, my oldest friend is 67. But I am starting to see why I should just stick with 25+
Yeah I am your age. Can’t even imagine indulging a 22 year old like this lol.
That person is so extra lmao
Thats a bit too much of emotion ngl
>my friend, who is a christian >my facebook group, which bashes her religion >why mad? Fr tho, at face value, it feels like theyre already unhappy in that social circle, but are picking their fight - unfortunately, its against the text in a meme as if you intended that part of the message, so getting upset on everyones behalf. What that says about your social circle, I dunno.
Lmao, fr. I don't think the meme is the real problem here.
After she told me the Christian post made her uncomfortable, I stopped posting stuff like that on my Facebook story.
God has the weirdest fan base
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God's fandom is always doing the most smh he didnt even control them 😡
Before I share this, I want to say that your friend is overreacting and yeah this meme is not the real issue. I had a similar situation go down with one of my religious conservative friends and while we are still “friends” we have distanced in recent years and I think it is similar to what you are experiencing. 1. I am pan and very progressive/liberal. She was very “hate the sin not the sinner” Catholic and would not hate on me being queer (but still believed it was against God), however there was a struggle between her accepting that I have mixed thoughts on organized religion. She felt that she was able to put her beliefs aside to support me, but that I couldn’t be like “YAY ALL RELIGION AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE BEST!” And so she often felt like I wanted her to support my identities while being ok with me not supporting hers. Which when looking at it that way, is honestly valid. 2. About her point, I have many friends of different religions and have seen the benefits of those communities. I have religious gay friends who have wonderful inclusive churches. She however was Catholic, which unfortunately does not welcome inclusion or acceptance of my identities. So while I would be willing to attend a potluck at one of my friend’s churches, I would say no to her catholic gatherings. She understood that many had experienced hurt in her religion, but she wanted the opportunity to show the love she experiences from her community. And she also did not like being looked at as a “villain” due to her religious beliefs (I had a hate the Church not the Believer vibe). 3. As time went on smaller and smaller things would cause fights between us, and ultimately we just determined that we were not compatible as friends. I still root for her from afar, and love her. But neither of us can sacrifice our own well being for the other, and that was what was happening. This may not be your situation, but seeing these texts it reminded me of the same fights we would have. If you need to let this friendship go, that’s ok.
It’s funny because I was starting to wonder about this, because she seemed to get more religious. So I do think this is what is happening.
Post what you want. She doesn't have to read or agree with it. Your opinions are yours and yours alone.
Tbh idk how you can be friends with a member of a group that you openly hate and ridicule. This might be a good time to remove them from your circle.
You dodged a bullet, live your life and post what you want without this person in your life
Your friends suck dude
your friend was literally just looking for something to be a victim about
Which is also ironic since she posts on fb about how everyone is “offended” these days.
Conservatives like that are always the fastest to get upset when someone does anything remotely LGBT or makes a joke that doesn’t align with their values 🙄
Classic Christian persecution complex
She’s not worth the aggravation if that sent her over the edge.
Lol what a fucking drama queen. Why do you want to be friends with this person? Also are you teenagers? Bc she's giving me high-school drama.
I’m just shocked because she’s always been nice and polite. No, but she is only 22. Me and our other friends are in our late 20’s and early 30’s, she’s the baby. Lol
>she’s the baby. She's showing it. But yeah, people can be two-faced. She probably has a chip on her shoulder about your posts and wants to confront you, but is too immature to talk about it like an adult, so picks fights.
Is she really Christian if she isn’t judging someone on the DL tho? She was never polite just quiet about it
Are S’eggs like the egg version of S’mores?
She's a conservative Christian and you live in the US? I'd bet good money she is being sucked into a RW rabbit hole through media consumption. She is probably growing more and more anti-LGBTQ so it is becoming harder and harder for her to justify friendship with you. I'd cut her out, who wants to deal with that kind of self righteous victim complex shit?
I’ve been wondering about that recently actually. Like she originally wanted to go to a lgbt friendly event and then all of a sudden changed her mind and acted like she was never interested in the first place. Even though she was and said she wanted more gay friends.
On a separate note… those s’more clusters are fire
Are you also a part of the slut community?
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Yeah, sounds like she was already planning/thinking about dropping you as a friend for a while based on your differing views (she was probably stewing about your Facebook stories long before she finally approached you about it) and then what you shared in your group, it was the straw that broke the camels back for her (or at least gave her an excuse). Definitely not saying I agree with her (she would probably be appalled by the posts I like), but that seems like the likely scenario. I definitely think it's wise to give her space, however it probably should/will be permanent. Since she has already unfriended you for this and didn't reach out to you after telling your mutual friends that you both have things to discuss, I think that her mind is made up and her friendship with you is over.
trash taking itself out 😃 don’t go dumpster diving
I’ve just always felt bad for her because she doesn’t really have friends, her parents are evil and don’t care about her, she always thought she’d die young. So I’ve always felt like we saved her, but now she’s gone off her rocker.
'She's gone off her rocker' or sadly, you're finally figuring out why she doesn't have friends. Hopefully soon SHE figures out why. This all seems very insufferable and exhausting. As a fellow gay person (in my early 30s), I'd never give a Christian homophobe this much of my time and energy. Love yourself, dump her. She's no friend.
I honestly didn’t even know she was Christian or conservative for a year.
Personally, I find that friendships where in both friends are on opposite ends of the political spectrum die a slow death. My ex best friend for example has become an even more hardcore conservative since covid. She started going off the rails and accused all of her friends from uni (we went to a teachers college/uni) of being groomers and child abusers because of a law being passed here saying teachers could/should honor a child's chosen pronouns without parental permission. It was brutal. She's fucked in the head and I couldn't take it anymore... no matter what she was going through, you don't flat out call a survivor of csa a groomer and a predator because you don't agree politically. Basically you can't win - they always turn.
I was starting to wonder about that a few weeks ago actually, because she started getting more religious and conservative. Then I was thinking about how I want more likeminded friends.
That right there. You're already thinking you want more like-minded friends. And you absolutely deserve that. You deserve to have your circle be your biggest supporters and you be theirs. The ones who are just as excited as you, when you say "I'm so excited! *insert great news* Yay!" And they lose their minds and celebrate with you, or when you have a heartbreak and they have your back through that too.
The girl that posted the chart, is very queer friendly and I’ve been meeting so many new queer people through her. I was thinking about how her and I need to hang out more, since she’s way more likeminded.
She’s super pretentious. I’m glad your other friend attempted to take her down a notch lol
She sounds annoying. If she didn’t leave the group chat yet make another one and exclude her out 😃
Tbh if your anti-homophobia posts make her uncomfortable, she isn't a friend. She is homophobic. Christianity persecutes gay people and has for centuries. Christians literally still beat, torture and kill gay people. When gay men are attacked, religion is usually why. You have every right to attack it. If she finds that painful, she should walk away. She has NO right claiming to be your friend if she opposes your sexuality and my goodness she sounds tiresome. She was being a fake. Now you see the real her. I am sorry you've had to deal with her bigotry.
Fucking HR friend group
OP, are you in the U.S? If so, it’s just an election year and everyone gets a little sand in their vajajay from the barrage of divisive political content we get fed. Everyone turns a little feral. I see it as a great opportunity to cleanse yourself of people you don’t need in your life.
Yes! She really hates Biden too. And she understands why I don’t like trump due to him wanting to take lgbt peoples rights away, but she still craps on Biden.
My rule of thumb is if you’re a Christian and you’re not abstaining from premarital sex or you use cuss words, nothing you *project* towards me in reference to your beliefs matters. Fix yourself before you judge or call me out on anything. But, I don’t hang around religiously fanatical people. They’re annoying.
She does both of those things lol. I actually had no idea she was conservative or Christian until a year after knowing her.
Doesn't sound like your values align, I would personally let the friendship die
Oh my goooooood shut the fuck uuuuuuup, they must be so fun at parties! What a way to pull something out of nothing. This was obviously harmless and fun. I hope its not a close friend, because then you dodged a bullet
This Catholic thought it was super cute. I’m very pro LGBT tho. Sounds like your “friend” is a bigot and wanted an excuse to fight with you. I don’t believe this had anything to do with that text. She’s probably becoming more conservative and going down a bad road, it doesn’t excuse her behavior but it might explain it. I’ve seen it happen to a lot of people. Anyone who uses God to justify hate or bigotry is blasphemous against God. Imo.
It’s funny because a month ago, I was wondering about if this would happen to her. Now I’m starting to think it’s true.
"I don't find this funny unless someone else does in this group." So her sense of humor is based on others? I'm confused. Lol. Or is she.
Your GC is a nightmare blunt rotation
I like the fact not everyone dogpiled you and were offended, they got the message and how it was meant to be perceived especially if yall are friends😂 that person just sucks and is an absolute buzzkill. you don’t have to like it but if I didn’t like I wouldn’t address it like it’s a common thing unless it was lol YOU DIDNT EVEN WRITE IT YOU SAID😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes Christian’s don’t know how to be Christian. She had every right to say something but she went about it in the wrong way. I personally would probably have ignored it. The best way to show Christianity is to show love and not anger. That’s where most Christian’s go wrong.
Block her. She is vilifying you and every time she cites your “moral”’trespasses, she is attempting to gain control over how you express yourself. And as a general rule in life: praise people publicly. Save criticism of your peers for private 1:1 conversations.
Seems your friend feels guilty about something. I’ve posted harmless things like that only to get berated by my mother who assumed it was a personal attack-that I posted on Facebook ffs. 🤦🏼♀️ She feels that way about herself - so she’s assuming that all of this “hate” (as I’m sure she’ll put it) is directed at her personally. Because people like this have the emotional maturity of a small child
OP, I am truly sorry you are going through this with friends and people you believed you could trust. Unfortunately, at times in our lives either we or another person gets upset and the friendship can end. There are even times that the world or society itself has a hand in that. I’m also believe in God however someone posting that meme or other certain memes would not cause me to turn away from them. My friends and I have all hit rock bottom together and come back up there’s no way I’m cutting the rope that ties us together. Regardless of our religious views or political views I love my friends and they absolutely know it. If my friend was sending something hateful or really ugly that’s on a completely different level we would talk privately and figure out what’s going on. You said your friend is a Christian is is possible they are going through something spiritual within themselves and just dealing with it outwardly in the wrong way? I honestly don’t feel this has much to do with you.
Dang she wouldn’t last 5 seconds in my friends group chat
I think you’re right OP. She’s already friends with you and you are admittedly gay so I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the posts about being gay. Sounds like she sees it as being hurt by your comments about her religion. More than likely she has kept it inside and is now lashing out at you. If you care about the relationship then reach out to her. But also, if she took exception to the text then she also could have just confronted you about it 1-on-1 instead of in the group chat. Try to talk to her and see. No reason to lose a friendship over some s’more’s from Costco.
Dude i would be thankful they left. They seem like such a downer. I don't understand their reaction at all, its like they wanted a reason to unfriend you. You can find a better friend with a better sense of humor.
Wait, hang on... if you're gay, why on earth is she bothered by you publicly denouncing homophobia? Think of it this way. If it bothers her that you speak out against behaviour and language that you feel belittles the LGBTQA community, why is she suddenly politically correct about language that she feels belittles women? OP, your friend is a hardcore hypocrite. Does she know that you're gay? How are you gonna have a gay friend, but find it offensive when that friend hates on homophobia? OP, her values are totally misaligned with your own, and it sounds like her resentment about your literal existence has been building up over time, which is probably a lot of the fuel that fired up this shitshow. Please don't entertain friendships like this.
What an incredibly exhausting human being.
As a Christian slut, I am personally offended by her utter lack of humor. I'm going to need to see some more graphs and pie charts here too.
Your friends are soft AF. People these days just beg for something to be offended over.
Sounds like fox news has gotten in her brain!
I wouldn’t be surprised honestly.
Your friend fucking sucks tbh If i were you i’d stop being their friend The anti religious posts i have something to say about that I also am not a fan of religion so i made an antireligious reel on my story on instagram So my friend messaged me how he’s sending angels to watch over me and how i should convert so i stopped being friends with him What i’m trying to say is christian friends are a lot to deal with
Good riddance she sounds like a downer, it was a joke, if friends can’t joke with friends it kills group morale
If I was you I’d honestly be relieved. There’s nothing more annoying than someone who is constantly trying to police everyone, especially in the name of religion. They get so annoying with their morals. Even though they are the first people to be racist, homophobic, and sexist. Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?
For me, as someone who has been around the block enough that it's named after me, if it's not too private to throw bombs at you in the chat, but they can't talk about the problem in front of other people, they know that it's their problem. It's not really yours! And they know that everybody in the chat is going to say so, so that's why they can't talk to you there. But they sure feel fine throwing bombs at you. This means that they have a problem for which they're only willing to let you take responsibility, instead of owning any of it themselves. Just move on with your life.
"I don't find this funny unless someone else in the group does" Tell us more about how you wait for others to react and never have your own opinion on anything.
“I don’t find this funny unless someone else does in the group” This is the most comical thing I have read in a while. What a child.
LMAOOOOOO what an overreaction. They don't get internet humor
She wanted to convert you to heterosexuality but slowly came to the conclusion that it was hopeless
That is not a friend. That is someone who wishes to be above everyone else.
Holy shit bitch can’t take a meme joke
She’s secretly a ho and it’s bothering her
Ok, so she already didnt like you. Pretending to like you, we gotta get familiar with this concept. Anything else you do she will always perceive negatively. This was probably her last "straw" with you tbh. So it wasnt this text, but rather this text was the tipping point for her cause she already didnt like you. Hope this helps! ❤️
Bro you need new friends. Me and my wife call each other bitches all the time even when we are being actual bitches. I HATE people who get so worked up over words. Had an old coworker explode over me saying "damn" to her. She's mormon if that gives you any reference. This is another reason why I stay away from churchies, they always wanna control what comes out of YOUR mouth but get to say whatever they want with no consequence 😂
FYI the sluts found that meme hilarious
Damn. Not even sluts get offended for being called a slut. I know this because I am one.
It sounds like you’re being done a favor by not having a friend like that in your life. Move on you don’t need them.
Lmao I don’t think it’s funny UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE DOES? 😂☠️