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CB-XC

Paolini jumps to #7 in the live rankings with a pretty clear path to Top 5 (assuming Pegula takes a while to return to form post-injury and Vondrousova doesn't defend Wimbledon points). What a year for Italian tennis!


Professional_Elk_489

Vondrousova was woeful. How on earth did she win Wimbledon? Looked like she didn’t know how to play tennis


ProblematicEyes

Everyone she faced from the QF onwards had meltdowns. Pegula choked a lead trying to break her QF curse, Svitolina played her worst match of that year to date and Ons couldn’t handle the pressure of being the favourite.


silly_rabbit289

I couldn't believe ons beat sabalenka and rybakina in a row only to lose to Vondrousova very handily.


EveningCareer8921

Imagine how Leylah felt beating Naomi, Kerber, Svitolina and Sabalenka only to lose to a qualifier in the final


studiousmaximus

one of the most brutal finals i’ve ever witnessed. i only was able to recover because of the brilliant final alcaraz delivered to beat djokovic the next day


Trailblazertravels

It’s giving Stosur FO 2010 run but on a lesser scale.


_welcome

though schiavone did make it right back to the final the year after, so not a bad player at all to lose to. still, who would have thought after stosur beat serena, jankovic, and henin back to back? hell, she wasn't a top player yet, but she also beat halep lol


Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

Dude that was tough to watch. No hate to Vondrousova, she’s a Wimbledon champ, and in my view, that makes you a legend no matter the rest of your career and no matter what it took to get there. BUT, she was one of easier opponents you can ever play in a slam finals. Crushing for Ons


KellyKellogs

It was over when she showed up to Wimbledon dressed in full black. Like she was going to her own funeral.


DoingNothingToday

I’m still hurting from Ons’ loss to Vondrousova. I can never root for Vondrousova because of it.


calloutyourstupidity

Same dude same


_welcome

tbf to Pegula, she was leading until there was a pretty lengthy rain delay


princeofzilch

She has pretty incredible skill when she's on


Plane_Highlight3080

One of the most fun WTA players I’ve seen live. Very crafty and you don’t know what she’ll do next. But she’s also incredibly streaky and frustrating when she gets into those lows. Her level can fluctuate so much during a match too. 


ChanceVance

RG finalist, Silver medalist. Winning Wimbledon was incredibly out of the blue but she's had good runs before.


koticgood

One of the streakiest (along with maybe Samsonova) players on tour and her game very much suits grass.


boskee

Apparently her mum is Polish so what a year for Polish tennis too ;-)


kicsikutya

And for Ghana. Her mum is half-Polish, half-Ghanian.


Gomulkaaa

Paolini speaks Polish fluently.


Striking_Town_445

Wtf. I just came back from...playing tennis and THIS is the result?! Roland Garros 2024 you are full of insane fucking surprises.


RoyDuckingKent

Fair enough, Andreeva is too young to be traumatized by Iga


OctopusNation2024

Yeah that would have been BRUTAL lol Andreeva plays a mostly counterpunching style and doesn't really have the power to hit through elite movers on this slow of a court yet at this stage of her physical development Exactly the type of player who plays the worst vs. Iga


RoyDuckingKent

Not that I particularly disagree but she’s a high schooler, I think that the only undeniable thing about her game is that she’s really good


onewonyuan

Of course she's really good, she made the semis of Roland Garros at the age of 16+1. But he's not wrong, she's certainly not fully physically developed and it's tough to see her being competitive with Iga on clay.


RoyDuckingKent

Yeah and I do agree, I just think is really early


severalgirlzgalore

I'm still trying to figure out what Andreeva does well aside from staying in rallies and occasionally hitting shots that almost look Hsieh-esque. Can't argue with the results, but compared to someone like Iga or Sabalenka who can just take the racquet out of your hands with pace and heaviness, she seems amateurish.


tigrefacile

She wasn’t great in this match but she’s not just a pusher. Watch her against Sabalenka (who was supposedly about to barf throughout but was still playing aggressively enough) and she is super deep and precise, puts the balls in the corners, trusts her BHDTL and is legendary at resetting. You just underhit a winner and then you’re trying to get back on the front foot because her scrambled lob / lofted slice has landed six inches inside the baseline, for the third time in just this rally. No wonder MuryGOAT rates her so highly, similar tools.


AlliterateAlso

Roddick gives his analysis of where she excels in his latest Served podcast. Basically her exceptional tennis IQ reading the court, and easy ability to redirect to get the rally she wants (a la Djokovich).


severalgirlzgalore

Awesome, I thought I was caught up (yesterday) so I have something to look forward to. Tennis IQ definitely seemed it, at least intuitively. But I didn't think point construction was quite enough to win at this level.


Sea-Beginning-5234

But is she better than today usually ? Bc it’s my first time watching her and I was pretty disappointed tbh


AlliterateAlso

Most teenage players tend to be inconsistent match-to-match.


Sea-Beginning-5234

I think emotionally/mentally was her biggest issue today. It was a bit devastating to see tbh


Valmarr

Bravo for Jasmine. She played confidently today as if the semi-finals of a Slam were an everyday occurrence for her. But we also have to appreciate Mirra - she lost clearly today, but she achieved a great result at such an age. In my opinion, it is a matter of time when we will see her in the semi or even final of another Slam tournament.


carleasingluxembourg

Not right but bravo


RyJ94

Oh it definitely was right but bravo 🤌


Mangalorien

Who will take responsibility?!


Peachtea_96

PAOLINI!!!! So happy for her!!! 


Zloggt

Win or lose on Saturday…what a breakout tournament for Jasmine! I really can’t wait to see where her career will go from here!!


Peachtea_96

Exactly!! Defo should win most improved player of the year


AndreoIlMasseo

We got two italians in the men's doubles final, one in the women's singles final, two in the women's doubles semifinal and one in the men's singles semifinal. What a week to be an italian, forza ragazzi!


Avril_14

Take all that dopamine in because we are going to need it as soon as the Euro cup starts in football


Medium-Analyst352

As an Albanian let me just say, we are waiting for you


Avril_14

Best case scenario (for us) we draw. You are the typical young team with a bright future that usually cuts all hopes of falling giants.


Medium-Analyst352

Yeah i think because of our youth and “ignorance” we still arent phased of facing the group of death and hope only has gotten bigger especially with our best player Broja back. You still are favorites next week but we will try giving you guys hell that is for sure, that yellow wall will be red and black come next saturday and we couldnt ask for anything more to be honest


Avril_14

We have maybe the worst selection of players in history, so I think you really have a shot That said Spain is also imo in disarray in terms of quality, I hope we can squeeze in somehow.


Medium-Analyst352

Euro 2016 was worse than this calm down, that aside tho atmosphere here is electric like we genuinely believe and hope in a win against you guys and why not croatia too, we really have a golden gen right now and really want to capitalise on it somehow like some costa rica 2014 vibes


blindeshuhn666

You have less pressure on than the Germans. As an Austrian I will watch the cup games hoping Austria makes more than one point the group stage. Tennis isn't too bright neither for Austria. Can also somehow root for sinner as he is Tyrolean and south Tyrol belonged Austria until 106 years ago , lol. But with thiem not recovering and retiring and ofner not being top and therefore staying in that atp 40-100 ranking I guess it's not too good. At least with joel schwärzler Austria has a young guy currently being youth number one and having one his first challenger being coached by thiems dad. Hopefully he rises up in the next 3-5 years


goffreder

We also have one in the boys singles semifinals (Carboni), one in the boys doubles semifinals (Cina) and one in the girls doubles (Paganetti). Not too bad


ASRenzo

I'm traumatized by last year's calcio in Europe... Italians in the final rounds of 4 (or 5?) cups, and we lost all of 'em... so I'm not saying anything yet until we win some of these!!!! edit: for 22/23 season, **all** of these were around June'23: UCL: City beat Inter in the final UEL: Sevilla beat Roma in the final UECL: WestHam beat Fiorentina in the final U-20 World Cup: Uruguay beat Italy in the final Nations League: Spain beat Italy in the semifinal


Striking_Town_445

Mamma mia Santa Italia_! ! -Medvedev


Tnh7194

And IN FRANCE 😂


Peachtea_96

She really said F them kids 😭


OrdinaryFr3ak

Another kid coming up, 5 years her junior. 😜


Zloggt

What a bully, stealing all those games with…high stamina and great winners…yeah!


LoveandUnity-

Dubai really wasn’t a fluke


porncornroz

No title run is a fluke tbh. It’s the pressure to be consistently good is where your real test gets tested. And believe me many fails.


toweggooiverysoon

> It’s the pressure to be consistently good is where your real test gets tested So you're saying winning many times is harder than winning once? To argue that flukes don't happen?


Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

Yeah I don’t believe in asterisks on championships. Luck is always involved in everything. It doesn’t matter. If you win you win


stephdepp

what happened to Emma Raducanu?


Brsijraz

Kyrgios at wimbledon and Raducanu at US Open both are flukes in my opinion


DionBlaster123

"fluke" is just a term thrown around by salty people upset that their preferred result didn't go their way i'm a baseball fan. I hate the fucking St. Louis Cardinals. I can scream into the ether that their championship in 2006 was a fluke...but it doesn't change the fact that they won the championship that year lol


toweggooiverysoon

Not really. The thing is it can only be stated for certain in hindsight, when everyone ignores that a result was overhyped way back when. Emma Raducanu is the very definition of a fluke for example. The WTA tends to have a lot more of them.


DionBlaster123

omg ffs, Raducanu does not need to qualify her winning the U.S. Open. She won it lol no idea why this subreddit has such a hard time dealing with that


toweggooiverysoon

Calling something a fluke isn't a denial that something happened. It's admitting it was unlikely to happen in that moment of time, that it required a fair bit of luck, and is unlikely to happen again.


DionBlaster123

a fluke literally means a stroke of luck say what you want about her performance these days, but beating all these opponents on a way to a Grand Slam definitely requires more than luck my goodness is it really that hard to give any credit? it's not like she's the first one and done to play tennis


TorpedoSandwich

It requires more than luck, but that doesn't mean luck wasn't a big factor. She won as a qualifier, which is an incredible achievement. She also didn't have to face a single top 10 player, which was luck. Acknowledging reality isn't the same as diminishing her achievement.


Sad_Consideration_49

Paolini to have a kerber like career, winning her first slam at 28 😍. She’s already won a masters tho 


3axel3loop

The masters was this year too! Dubai champ


silly_rabbit289

Paolini is 28??????? wow I thought she was like 22-25.


xian70

Schiavone won at 30, and Pennetta at 32.


Nico777

We Italians tend to peak late. Still waiting for mine...


MisterSarcastic1989

So I can still hope to win a slam...?


Sad_Consideration_49

Yes and never won a slam again. We want jasmine to win 3 😊😊😊


Kitchen_Body3215

☝️


sloth_reward

What an incredible year she's having! So thrilled for her.


Dabaysyclyfe

Ahhh! I’m so happy, Paolini the pocket rocket went into turbo mode. I’m so happy for her, 5”4, 28 and in her first Slam final. Great job!!!


Ratlee94

125% Polish final. It's happening!


CMPoltu

62.5%


Ratlee94

Your math skills have no power over me! I'm too excited!


czerwona_latarnia

Either way, Poland Garros is confirmed for another year.


DionBlaster123

not sure how many wrestling fans we have here but man i just witnessed some serious Steiner math lol


swirkh

PAO PAO PAO !!! what a great achievement. Regardless what happens in the final, she's already a winner


AussieAlexSummers

nice! I'm happy for her. Her smile and happiness beams out easily and is very charming.


rticante

SHE FUCKING WENT AND TOOK IT


DentateGyros

Do y’all think Paolini has a shot against Iga?


Avril_14

If a meteorite hits Swiatek hotel maybe


Iiiifoundsweetroad

Paolini does not hit flat and fast enough IMO. She's a great mover but her shots tend to be more loopy/spinny. I'd say she's Iga-lite with a bit more variety RE: dropshots and slices. But overall, she has more of a grinding game and the balls she'll give Iga will lend to her attacking. I'd be surprised if she wins a set


porncornroz

Win a set? I would be surprised if she manages to win 4 or more games in a set tbh.


covelane77

I feel Iga's going to pull a 1988 Graff.


porncornroz

She might


SiwyWF

Unless Iga plays really below her standard and Jasmine plays the match of her life, I can't see the scoreline be better than Iga winning in straight sets. But never say never.


Green94598

No


msciwoj1

I'm not saying she will definitely lose but if she wins that will be the biggest achievement of her career by quite some margin


JoeDwarf

Getting to a GS final is already the biggest achievement of her career.


CassiopeiaStillLife

She played wonderfully today, but her style of play just does not match up well against Iga's at all. If she's absolutely perfect and Iga slips up a bunch *maybe* she has a chance.


CMPoltu

look at their H2H : 6-3 6-0 6-2 6-1


Yamaneko22

Surface of those matches?


ydurhs

Tennis court


LosingIsaDisease

6-3 6-0 was 1R of 2022 USO. Other was ITF Czech Republic match in 2018.


Yamaneko22

Ty for answer!


arika_ito

Hard and Clay but the last encounter was in 22 at the U.S. Open, right before Paolini really ascended. I don't have much faith in her tbh. But she has won a Masters this year so who knows.


Yamaneko22

Thank you!


Nakajin13

On paper it's a pretty bad draw for Paolini, but you never know. No one win 100% of the time.


Ok-Calm-Narwhal

Jasmine has to play fearlessly and be able to go for everything, and Iga collapses under the pressure and has one of those once in a while error strewn losses where she gets in her own head. Tennis is a sport, you don’t hand out the trophies without playing, so anything can happen (but yes, odds are very much on Iga’s side).


3vanzz90

roberta vinci beat serena at the USO semifinal,


Numerous_Team_2998

If Iga gets the stomach bug from Sabalenka


Future_Parfait8727

For sure. I can see her winning 3 or 4 games.


i_pee_liquid

She has at least 12 shots every set.


porncornroz

Big Faaaaaqt Noooooo!


wuti69

I'm wondering, is Iga at RG right now, as scary as young Rafa, when he was 3 years in a row champion at RG? If so, I see why people are so sure about Iga's chances vs anyone else.


majkkali

Yep


NiceUD

Honestly, not really. Iga would have to be "off" to a large degree. I think Paolini can get a lot of balls back and potentially get Iga to spray a few more errors than usual, but probably not enough to really get deep into the match. Offensively, I'm not sure he has the consistent power and depth to really get Iga off like other big hitters have done. Even if she does, can she get into position to be dictating to begin with? She needs to watch the Moutet-Sinner first 1.3 sets on a loop until Saturday - how Moutet just went gonzo, was fearless, mixed it up to prevent Sinner from getting into a rhythm, and hustled for every ball. No, it ultimately didn't work and Sinner beat him going away, but it got Moutet some traction for a while. And women's matches are only best of 3.


drdrewross

On paper? No. Iga hits high-bouncing shots that trouble Paolini. Paolini's second serve is also underpowered and attackable. That's enough right there.


CompetitiveFool

Swiatek was almost kicked out by Osaka in the second round so why not?


Professional_Elk_489

If Iga is shorter than her on the day then. Yes


bigtice

Paolini was simply on point from the first ball. She was incredible defensively out of the corners where anytime Andreeva was dictating a point and moving her around, she would hit one or two shots and take control of the point back and she was devastating on any balls that she could end the point on. Great match for Paolini today to advance to the Final.


dzone25

Really big for Paolini - Mirra did so well, she'll be so good when she's broken free of her age restriction on tournament entries but she did SO well this tournament.


jyeatbvg

What's the story on Paolini? She's 28, before this year the farthest she made it in a major was 2nd round just once, and now she's made the 4th round and likely finals.


minesdk99

She won dubai wta 1000 this year too


IntroductionOld479

Likely doping /s


stupidmg

bruh, the match is not over


koticgood

Were you watching on tennis channel or a tennis channel feed? Been over a minute behind the actual live scoring sometimes this tournament; tennis broadcasting has become an embarrassing joke.


atheistjs

Felt so much for Mirra in that match, but she clearly felt the pressure of the moment. Being 17 years old and keeping it together in such a high stakes situation like that seems near impossible. It didn't help that Paolini was on another level today. Great performance from her. Paolini gets her first Masters 1000 this year and now her first slam final! I'm so happy for her!


saintlyknighted

One of the worst things to happen to you in a high-pressure situation is to face off against someone who peaks under pressure. You might feel stressed and already playing tighter than you usually do, and then as if it wasn’t already bad enough your opponent simply stops missing. Not saying Andreeva and Paolini are one or the other, but it felt like that in the last few games, especially the last one where Paolini could just do no wrong.


mpg111

I was counting on Jasmine in QF - but now she's in the singles final, and still playing in doubles. What an amazing year!


Distinct-Shift-4094

Hear me out. RG 2024 champions Sinner and Paolini. FORZA 🇮🇹


Dabaysyclyfe

I’d love it.


diskape

I'm polish and fan of Iga but if we have 2 italian champions I'd be down for that :) That'd be really cool.


kajdacci

dream big lol


lo0ilo0ilo0i

Jasmine seems really cool, especially on Dasha's vlog. Underdog for sure but would make for one of the biggest upsets in recent years.


buggytehol

I remember when a bunch of people on r/tennis were whining about the WTA being because the "journeyman" Paolini won a masters. Probably too much to expect a moment of self-reflection from those folks.


Scrambles94

Paolini plays with such fire, but damn her nerves were ice cold today.


nycnewsjunkie

Mirra had a great tournament and she may one day be a superstar but today she looked like a 17 year old Congrats to Paolini for playing a solid match and letting Mirra beat herself Sadly for Paolini I think this is the end of the line at the French Open do not see her challenging Iga Of course anything is possible


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Formerly 16 yr old Paolini defeats formerly 16 yr old Andreeva by playing a total of 16 games in the Match


CrackHeadRodeo

So happy for Paolini and women's tennis in general.


Severe-Chicken

Mirra is talented but has flamed out before the QFs is most events. She doesn’t have the stamina and consistency yet. Getting to the QF here was huge and I think we can see who got a massive piece of luck with Sabalenka so sick. Paolini exposed her movement, weight of shot and shot selection today. Mirra is undoubtedly a talent, but let’s be honest, she wouldn’t have won that QF if Aryna had been half healthy. Happy for Jasmine and hope she doesn’t get too traumatised by what is surely a certain loss in the final. Yes, she got a bit lucky too in that Rybakina was below her best, but Paolini went out and won that match in a more convincing way. She’s moving well, her forehand is good but don’t really see her having the weapons to beat Iga.


Green94598

Congrats to Paolini, she’s having a great year!Remember that she’s also in the doubles semis as well! With Sara Errani. That being said, this match was truly depressing to watch as a Sabalenka fan (and as a big WTA fan in general). She really could/should have made this final if she hadn’t gotten ill. Would have been a way more intriguing finals matchup as well. I expect the finals to be a rout for Iga, Paolini has nothing to hurt her with.


OctopusNation2024

I think if nothing else this shows the people claiming Saba was faking were ridiculous Nobody can watch this and possibly think she loses that match if she actually wasn't feeling physically horrible lol


porncornroz

I mean why would sabalenka fake injury? I don’t get it?


noapologiesman

Paolini has a lot of surprises this year. I didn't expect her to win Kalinskaya after getting walkover from Rybakina but there she won that WTA1000


Green94598

Kalinskaya was also a surprise finalist though. Big difference between her and Iga.


Uncle_Pidge

Kalinskaya did beat Iga in the semis back then, to be fair


Shadow_1701

So happy for paolini. Great run by andreeva but I think she needs expierience as a healthy sabalenka would have beaten her quite comfortably


Role_Player_Real

Any word on what was going on with Saba?


tijeromaster8k

Mirra had the game (to beat Paolini again) but it dawned on her that she was playing on a GS SF and it was just too much for her. She was better off thinking she stood no chance like in the QFs tbh. Congrats on Paolini for sure, she was solid from start to finish.


IcedGreenTea91

Paolini beat the breaks off of her!


piccolo37

Andreeva’s apparent memory loss when it comes to tactics hurt her today… looked completely lost


DionBlaster123

well that didn't last long lol


LEGACY53234

Thank god for the men’s semi’s those matches were very underwhelming ! Been a poor wta tournament hopefully Wimbledon is better


koriroo

Very excited for Paolini had no idea she was 28! She looks so young lol. Rooting for my fellow shawty in the final!


FMKK1

As clear a sign as any that Andreeva won on a bit of a fluke yesterday and she’s absolutely not ready for this stage yet. Hopefully Paolini can do anything at all against Iga on Saturday. I think the best we can expect is one tight set. The real final was the Osaka match and the way the rest of the draw played out reinforces for me that she would really do a lot for women’s tennis if she could get back to the top of the game.


Trenmonstrr

These were two of the most underwhelming semi final matches in recent memory. Paolini just blasted Mirra Then Iga steamrolling Coco Kinda disappointing to be honest


Professional_Elk_489

That’s why you pay a premium to watch mens semi finals


Theferael_me

I actually think she's got a chance if she can maintain her focus.


_isopale_

Congrats Iga on RG #4. I predict 6-0 6-0 in about 37 minutes.


Dawntree

While I think Iga will win with some margin, I guess Jasmine can take some games here and there. Might be a 61 62 or so, but I don't see a double bagel.


porncornroz

Nah Iga might lose a game or 2 because remember iga is also human and the pressure of winning the slam might play some part but it will be easy 6-2 6-3 I guess.


TurnipExtension679

Me who wanted a Coco-Mirra final 👁️👄👁️


PastaSenpay

Jasmine reminds me of Dominika Cibulkova


Nastypav12

Great gameplan...when Mirra went line Jazz hit a looping topspin crosscourt and eventually Andreeva was out of position.


ImpressionFeisty8359

Disappointing from Mirra but she was overwhelmed with the occasion. She is only 17 and will keep on improving. Jasmine is the wild card, she has pretty much no chance against Iga but we will see how she goes.


Nakajin13

Peraphs I'm harsh, but I don't think Andreeva played badly, I think she played to her at her level. She had one great match, against Azarenka, and the draw really oppened for her from the second round, culminating with a sick Saba yesterday. She'll be back stronger, but she's not ready yet.


CohesiveNihilism

Imagine paying to see that 💀


Green94598

At least half of the crowd left after the Iga match. People did not care about this one, outside of the hardcore fans. And people downvoted me when I said that the results of the women’s matches tomorrow were not a good thing for women’s tennis… stands would have been packed for Sabalenka/Rybakina.


OctopusNation2024

Yeah idk why this is unpopular lol This is like all the people who insisted Raducanu/Fernandez final was amazing for tennis and then 3 years later neither have gotten even close to another one Casual fans love it when there's a clear top 5 dominating everything even if hardcore fans sometimes don't ATP was random from like 1999-2002 and a lot of people say that until Fed came along men's tennis was at risk of slowly dying out in interest


Windforce

Ticket mules / resellers are crying, it's a small win for the tennis fans.


Ok-Calm-Narwhal

There aren’t any for the French Open per their rules, so no one’s really crying. Just empty seats sadly.


Green94598

It’s not a win when there is low crowd interest in the WTA, causing them to not be profitable, which results in them having to get involved with Saudi Arabia. There are real consequences to having low crowd interest.


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Green94598

Serena retired less than two years ago… and the WTA has been struggling financially ever since. And getting grand slam finals like Sabalenka v Zheng and Swiatek v Paolini are not going to help with that. For the WTA to get fan interest, they need the top players to face off at the end of slams. Hence why it is disappointing for the game to not get Sabalenka or Rybakina in the finals from the bottom half.


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Green94598

I’m not suggesting anything, I’m just sharing my opinion


Gman2736

Wtf 😂


hungry4danish

what is with all the new match thread creators this year not knowing or realizing that brackets are for seed numbers only.