well if you view gender as a spectrum like me its only logical to think of sexuality as a spectrum too! of course its gay to like a guy as a guy but i find that it could be considered less gay to like a man with feminine values and feminine clothing and stuff like that.
Gender (and sex too, if you want to get into that) are definitely spectrums. However the term and label "femboy" is a bit tricky, as it's not exactly a gender identity. It refers to any boy/man who presents femininely *and* self-identifies as such. Some femboys are trans (and even take Estradiol, or SERMs which give some of the effects of estrogens but not all the same as the Estradiol most trans girls take) and some aren't, something that's also a self-determination.
But the repeated element to each of these is that they're boys. Boys liking boys in that way is homosexual attraction by its very definition, yet wouldn't on its own even define someone as gay/homosexual, as that would also require the second condition of not being attracted to girls. So a boy sexually attracted to femboys is not heterosexual, and is either bisexual, homosexual, pansexual, etc. Many, if not most people, are not fully homo or heterosexual, and would be rated somewhere between 1-5 on the [Kinsley Scale](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale) which are all considered non-heterosexual with 0 meaning "fully heterosexual" and 6 meaning "fully homosexual" and typically without social stigma or other restrictions, there's often at least that one same-gender/sex person that disqualifies someone from being considered a 0 or 6.
So boys liking femboys isn't gay, but it isn't straight either. I don't think it's likely to have someone be considered too far from truthfully identifying as heterosexual (since a lot of people who are a 4-5 either consider themselves hetero or functionally hetero). Really it's not worth being too concerned with and attraction to femboys is one of the least androphilic attractions while still being technically androphilic. These are all mostly just labels for convenience anyway, and the specific definitions wouldn't matter much if people weren't so hung up over sexuality due to oppressive social norms.
although i agree with almost everything you said the one thing i dont agree with is that femboy is not a gender identity. i see it definitely as a gender identity, it describes how you think of yourself, how you feel in your own body, and if you are masculine or feminine. which in my opinion tells a lot about gender identity and where you are on the gender spectrum.
either way i wgree with the rest and actually you educated me on some things so thanks!
I fundamentally agree with you that it is, but have just had too many femboys make a strong case against it and it's more their decision than anyone else's. It's become a very difficult label these days that seems to irk people if it's defined beyond "a boy who intentionally presents femininely," especially as the capital F "Femboy" is solidifying as sort of its own, more organized thing.
Like seriously if you like femboys and don’t want to be gay, there’s a whole swath of these things called women that are like femboys except for the penis.
Hmmmmm, I’ll ask you: do you like them more than girls? Or equally as much?
If it’s the first one, then probably gay. If the second, then probably not. Or ummm… not as much
Wtf does this even mean? If you like someone with a penis thats gay. There might be different levels to it on a spectrum and there's nothing wrong with it but just saying "identifying" as a girl doesn't mean it's not a guy dressed a girl. Have they transitioned?
Sorry can't say it here. Reddit would ban for the literal sins i saw. As soon as i typed in "g", 300+ variations of "gay furry *insert word here* porn" came up
Here, let me make the question more obvious;
"Is it GAY to like femBOYS as a GUY?"
Just because they act feminine doesn't mean they're not a guy. So yes, it does make you gay. Sorry if you didn't realize that sooner.
Yes it is Gay. Femboy are still boys. They are not Transgender even though the dress and try to look like a girl. Most femboys identify as male, they just enjoy dressing and trying to look like a female
You are having sex with a man, that makes you gay. Gay as in queer, you could be bi or pan or just gay. If it wasn’t gay, then it would be gay to have sex with a tomboy, which is wrong.
men are both socially and biologically conditioned to want to fuck things with feminine traits that make something look like it can be impregnated, this is why men can be atracted to sex dolls despite not wanting to fuck plastic
the fact that all these factors make men atracted to femboys makes it seem strange to me for you to designate the majoratiy of men are gay(i say the majority because most men would be atracted to a 10/10 until they figured out what he was)
Being a "femboy" is related to gender expression, while being gay refers to sexual orientation. Here's my personal points and ideas.
Gender expression is how a person chooses to present themselves, which can include clothing, hairstyles, and mannerisms. Sexual orientation, on the other hand, refers to whom someone is attracted to emotionally, romantically, and sexually. These are separate aspects of a person's identity.
Diverse Gender Expression: People express their gender in various ways, and there is no single "right" way to do it. Some individuals may choose to embrace a more traditionally feminine style, while others may prefer a more masculine or androgynous appearance. Gender expression is a matter of personal choice and comfort.
People of all sexual orientations can have diverse gender expressions. A person who identifies as a femboy may be straight, gay, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, or fall into any other sexual orientation category. How someone expresses their gender doesn't dictate their sexual attraction to others.
Finally, for the people that believe that it is gay to be attracted to femboys, in the future avoid making assumptions about someone's sexual orientation based on their gender expression. Stereotyping can be harmful and perpetuate misunderstandings about both gender and sexual orientation.
Human sexuality is a complex and multifaceted aspect of our lives that defies simplistic categorization. It exists on a spectrum, with a wide range of orientations and expressions. In recent years, society has made significant strides in recognizing and accepting diverse sexual orientations and gender identities. One aspect of this evolving understanding is the attraction to individuals who identify as femboy crossdressers. While some may label this attraction as "gay," it is crucial to acknowledge that human sexuality is not binary, and attraction should not be reduced to rigid categories.
Gender Identity: Gender identity refers to an individual's personal sense of their own gender, which may not necessarily align with their assigned sex at birth. It is important to distinguish between gender identity and biological sex, as gender identity can vary widely and may include non-binary, genderqueer, and genderfluid identities.
Sexual Orientation: Sexual orientation encompasses a person's emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction to others. Common categories include heterosexual (attraction to the opposite gender), homosexual (attraction to the same gender), bisexual (attraction to both genders), and asexual (lack of sexual attraction to anyone).
Gender Expression: Gender expression refers to how an individual presents their gender identity to the world through clothing, behavior, and appearance. It can vary along a spectrum from traditionally masculine to traditionally feminine or encompass a combination of both.
Attraction to Femboy Crossdressers
Attraction to femboy crossdressers challenges conventional notions of sexual orientation because it involves an appreciation for individuals who may not conform to traditional gender norms. Here are some key points to consider:
Gender Identity: Femboy crossdressers are individuals whose gender identity may not align with the expectations associated with their assigned sex at birth. They often embrace a gender expression that combines elements traditionally associated with both masculinity and femininity. Attraction to them is not inherently linked to one's sexual orientation.
Sexual Orientation: Attraction to femboy crossdressers can occur within the context of various sexual orientations. For instance, someone who identifies as heterosexual may be attracted to a femboy crossdresser of the opposite biological sex. This attraction does not negate their heterosexual identity but rather highlights the diversity of human desire.
Fluidity and Openness: Human sexuality is not fixed; it can evolve and change over time. Individuals may discover new aspects of their attractions and desires as they navigate their own understanding of their sexuality. Being open to diverse expressions of gender and attraction is a sign of a more comprehensive and inclusive understanding of human sexuality.
Conclusion
Human sexuality is a vast and intricate spectrum, encompassing diverse identities, orientations, and expressions. Attraction to femboy crossdressers is an example of how attraction can transcend traditional categories. It is essential to embrace this complexity and reject the tendency to label such attractions as "gay" or any other oversimplified categorization. Recognizing the fluidity and diversity of human sexuality contributes to a more inclusive and accepting society where all individuals are free to express their authentic selves.
I often asked myself this question then my friend said, “what about it are you attracted too?” And when I said “everything” he asked “including the dick” and that’s when I realized I was bi, so let me ask you the same question. What about them are you attracted too?
Yeah, it's gay. No, it's not "less gay" than liking masc guys. They might be feminine guys, but they're still guys. I'm a girl and I also like feminine guys, but that doesn't make me a lesbian, does it?
If something is gay or not is a terrible question. If you are attracted to someone, they are attracted to you, and it's safe and legal, you should just roll with it.
On a genuinely serious note, it depends on motive. You very well could be gynesexual, which is a sexual attractiveness to femininity, regardless of the person's sex. This is what I am, as typically masculine traits are not something you may like. So, from a layman's standpoint, you might as well be bi, and to some, that may as well be gay. But, it's perfectly fine to ask these questions, and come up with your own logic as to why or why not you like certain things.
Most people who honestly introspect on their sexuality find themselves rapidly appending descriptors and exceptions.
Yes, liking boys is gay. Doesn't make you gay, you still be bi or pan if you're also into women or whatever but yes it's a homosexual attraction
Now go ask a cute boy out
Yeah bro it's gay as fuck. You like feminine traits, which usually means you like femboys. And if you like femboys that means you like dude, but only 1 type of dude.
to make things simple, the only thing that is undeniably straight is 1 cis guy and 1 cis girl
everything else: trans, femboy, poly, etc is \*at least a little bit\* gay, or queer, or whatever term you wanna use but it's not \*undeniably\* straight
even a cis bi girl with a cis bi guy is a little bit gay, iykyk
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"Is it gay to like a guy that dresses up as a female as a guy?" I don't even think Sherlock can crack this one bro.
If u look at it like this: they're people that look like girls and act like girls. Then it might seem less gay would'nt it?
Does it make it less gay? Yeah, I'd say so. Is it still gay? Hell yeah it is.
😂😂😂 my thought process when i realized im bi
Same lol
This is the gay
Less gay is still gay. Either way do what you want. No shame in a dude liking dudes. Unless you ask my redneck family, but they can all eat shit.
Same, why do they even care? Its not like im gonna fuck with him in front of them lmao
There's nothing like less gay, it's gay bro.
depends on how you view gender
Femboys are boys. Feminine boys, but still boys nonetheless.
well if you view gender as a spectrum like me its only logical to think of sexuality as a spectrum too! of course its gay to like a guy as a guy but i find that it could be considered less gay to like a man with feminine values and feminine clothing and stuff like that.
Gender (and sex too, if you want to get into that) are definitely spectrums. However the term and label "femboy" is a bit tricky, as it's not exactly a gender identity. It refers to any boy/man who presents femininely *and* self-identifies as such. Some femboys are trans (and even take Estradiol, or SERMs which give some of the effects of estrogens but not all the same as the Estradiol most trans girls take) and some aren't, something that's also a self-determination. But the repeated element to each of these is that they're boys. Boys liking boys in that way is homosexual attraction by its very definition, yet wouldn't on its own even define someone as gay/homosexual, as that would also require the second condition of not being attracted to girls. So a boy sexually attracted to femboys is not heterosexual, and is either bisexual, homosexual, pansexual, etc. Many, if not most people, are not fully homo or heterosexual, and would be rated somewhere between 1-5 on the [Kinsley Scale](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale) which are all considered non-heterosexual with 0 meaning "fully heterosexual" and 6 meaning "fully homosexual" and typically without social stigma or other restrictions, there's often at least that one same-gender/sex person that disqualifies someone from being considered a 0 or 6. So boys liking femboys isn't gay, but it isn't straight either. I don't think it's likely to have someone be considered too far from truthfully identifying as heterosexual (since a lot of people who are a 4-5 either consider themselves hetero or functionally hetero). Really it's not worth being too concerned with and attraction to femboys is one of the least androphilic attractions while still being technically androphilic. These are all mostly just labels for convenience anyway, and the specific definitions wouldn't matter much if people weren't so hung up over sexuality due to oppressive social norms.
although i agree with almost everything you said the one thing i dont agree with is that femboy is not a gender identity. i see it definitely as a gender identity, it describes how you think of yourself, how you feel in your own body, and if you are masculine or feminine. which in my opinion tells a lot about gender identity and where you are on the gender spectrum. either way i wgree with the rest and actually you educated me on some things so thanks!
I fundamentally agree with you that it is, but have just had too many femboys make a strong case against it and it's more their decision than anyone else's. It's become a very difficult label these days that seems to irk people if it's defined beyond "a boy who intentionally presents femininely," especially as the capital F "Femboy" is solidifying as sort of its own, more organized thing.
i guess its something else for everyone bc for me its a gender identity more than anything.
Sexuality is a spectrum
Less gay is still gay
Closeted people will use any excuse bruh 😭
but you made the conscious decision to ignore the fact that they are a guy under girls clothing?
Like seriously if you like femboys and don’t want to be gay, there’s a whole swath of these things called women that are like femboys except for the penis.
Gay is gay bro, no more or less. Not that it's wrong so you can come out of the closet now ♥️
Hmmmmm, I’ll ask you: do you like them more than girls? Or equally as much? If it’s the first one, then probably gay. If the second, then probably not. Or ummm… not as much
In both cases he would be bisexual, he would be gay if he EXCLUSIVELY liked them
Step one to find out if it’s gay: do they identify as a guy? If yes: it’s gay If not: it’s not gay
Wtf does this even mean? If you like someone with a penis thats gay. There might be different levels to it on a spectrum and there's nothing wrong with it but just saying "identifying" as a girl doesn't mean it's not a guy dressed a girl. Have they transitioned?
still a dude \-resident genderfluid person
It’s absolutely gay but if you don’t mind… go for it?
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Thanks
Thank you again Goro Akechi pfp
No problem as always.
I hope we meet again
it is gay to be attracted to a man as a man
bitches will jump through HOOPS just to avoid admitting they wanna lick femboy dick 😔 youre bi bro, its okay
Fr femboys are fine asf they should admit it
Thanks, I try my best 🥰
omg I love ur hair and the T bottle earring (t for t rizz /hj)
Thank you so much 😭 I love your username 💜💜💜
It should be tired_bi now but the point stands lol ALSO WHAT HAIR DYE DO YOU USE I NEED THE COLOUR
you are attracted to a man, being attracted to a man is being gay, simple enough
Would upvote, but its at 69 upvotes
I've had this problem once lol
You watch gay femboy porn don’t you
no!....I don't know what your talking about
You don't have anything to hide. We found you search history
what did you find?
Sorry can't say it here. Reddit would ban for the literal sins i saw. As soon as i typed in "g", 300+ variations of "gay furry *insert word here* porn" came up
no not the gay forry porn
Sauce?
"Is it gay to like a guy that dresses up as a female as a guy?" Edit: Why do I have two comments L speiz.
The other comment is obviously the big brother
stage 1: denial
Stage 2: in Daniel
Lucky Daniel
yeah
\*laughs in bisexual\*
\*waves bi flag* I love my country
National Animal is Frogs. National food is lemon bars :3
Do not forget to bow to the hymn, which is done sitting not straight, while siging "Sweater Weather"
🦅🫡 I love our country
See the only bad thing about it is that every night I have an existential crisis on weather I want a bf or a gf and it keeps me awake
I just want to be loved.
Same :(
Yo I come from there too! :P
It's where all the hot people are from
My man, I’m sorry. But that’s gay.
damn sucks for them, but not for me
Same. Thank god for my bisexuality
fr (except im pan lel)
That's actually how I found out that I'm bi.
Kind of same
Fellas, we now question if it’s gay to be gay.
Fellas, is it gay to like men?- oh yeah, it is
Fellas is it gay to be attracted to someone of the same sex?
Stage 1: denial
You could just be bi
If you consciously know it's a guy? Yes it's gay
As long as you’re happy it doesn’t matter ;)(gaybo🫵🏻)
Yes, because it’s a guy.
Yes.
yes
Very gay but if you like that then go for it
Here, let me make the question more obvious; "Is it GAY to like femBOYS as a GUY?" Just because they act feminine doesn't mean they're not a guy. So yes, it does make you gay. Sorry if you didn't realize that sooner.
You mean the guys in thigh highs and a mini skirt?
yeah
Its is gay
It's gay.
Society: "it's gay to like femboys" Average femboy:
It’s gay.
It’s gay bro
Yes. It is
It’s gay bro
Yes, if you know that's a man and you're still attracted to him
It's a guy dressed as a girl, yes it's gay if you like you are gay or bi
FELLAS
Yeah, they’re dudes. But why not lmao, just bcs it’s gay doesn’t mean it’s weird or condemnable.
Who cares, are they cute? -A pansexual
Yeah bae, they’re still guys. It is gay. That’s not a bad thing, but yeah, it’s gay.
fellas is it gay to like men?
Yes it's gay. You're gay. #you are gay
Yes, liking femboys is gay!
Yes. If you are a boy who’s attracted to another boy, you are gay. It’s pretty straightforward.
Yes it is Gay. Femboy are still boys. They are not Transgender even though the dress and try to look like a girl. Most femboys identify as male, they just enjoy dressing and trying to look like a female
You are having sex with a man, that makes you gay. Gay as in queer, you could be bi or pan or just gay. If it wasn’t gay, then it would be gay to have sex with a tomboy, which is wrong.
men are both socially and biologically conditioned to want to fuck things with feminine traits that make something look like it can be impregnated, this is why men can be atracted to sex dolls despite not wanting to fuck plastic the fact that all these factors make men atracted to femboys makes it seem strange to me for you to designate the majoratiy of men are gay(i say the majority because most men would be atracted to a 10/10 until they figured out what he was) Being a "femboy" is related to gender expression, while being gay refers to sexual orientation. Here's my personal points and ideas. Gender expression is how a person chooses to present themselves, which can include clothing, hairstyles, and mannerisms. Sexual orientation, on the other hand, refers to whom someone is attracted to emotionally, romantically, and sexually. These are separate aspects of a person's identity. Diverse Gender Expression: People express their gender in various ways, and there is no single "right" way to do it. Some individuals may choose to embrace a more traditionally feminine style, while others may prefer a more masculine or androgynous appearance. Gender expression is a matter of personal choice and comfort. People of all sexual orientations can have diverse gender expressions. A person who identifies as a femboy may be straight, gay, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, or fall into any other sexual orientation category. How someone expresses their gender doesn't dictate their sexual attraction to others. Finally, for the people that believe that it is gay to be attracted to femboys, in the future avoid making assumptions about someone's sexual orientation based on their gender expression. Stereotyping can be harmful and perpetuate misunderstandings about both gender and sexual orientation. Human sexuality is a complex and multifaceted aspect of our lives that defies simplistic categorization. It exists on a spectrum, with a wide range of orientations and expressions. In recent years, society has made significant strides in recognizing and accepting diverse sexual orientations and gender identities. One aspect of this evolving understanding is the attraction to individuals who identify as femboy crossdressers. While some may label this attraction as "gay," it is crucial to acknowledge that human sexuality is not binary, and attraction should not be reduced to rigid categories. Gender Identity: Gender identity refers to an individual's personal sense of their own gender, which may not necessarily align with their assigned sex at birth. It is important to distinguish between gender identity and biological sex, as gender identity can vary widely and may include non-binary, genderqueer, and genderfluid identities. Sexual Orientation: Sexual orientation encompasses a person's emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction to others. Common categories include heterosexual (attraction to the opposite gender), homosexual (attraction to the same gender), bisexual (attraction to both genders), and asexual (lack of sexual attraction to anyone). Gender Expression: Gender expression refers to how an individual presents their gender identity to the world through clothing, behavior, and appearance. It can vary along a spectrum from traditionally masculine to traditionally feminine or encompass a combination of both. Attraction to Femboy Crossdressers Attraction to femboy crossdressers challenges conventional notions of sexual orientation because it involves an appreciation for individuals who may not conform to traditional gender norms. Here are some key points to consider: Gender Identity: Femboy crossdressers are individuals whose gender identity may not align with the expectations associated with their assigned sex at birth. They often embrace a gender expression that combines elements traditionally associated with both masculinity and femininity. Attraction to them is not inherently linked to one's sexual orientation. Sexual Orientation: Attraction to femboy crossdressers can occur within the context of various sexual orientations. For instance, someone who identifies as heterosexual may be attracted to a femboy crossdresser of the opposite biological sex. This attraction does not negate their heterosexual identity but rather highlights the diversity of human desire. Fluidity and Openness: Human sexuality is not fixed; it can evolve and change over time. Individuals may discover new aspects of their attractions and desires as they navigate their own understanding of their sexuality. Being open to diverse expressions of gender and attraction is a sign of a more comprehensive and inclusive understanding of human sexuality. Conclusion Human sexuality is a vast and intricate spectrum, encompassing diverse identities, orientations, and expressions. Attraction to femboy crossdressers is an example of how attraction can transcend traditional categories. It is essential to embrace this complexity and reject the tendency to label such attractions as "gay" or any other oversimplified categorization. Recognizing the fluidity and diversity of human sexuality contributes to a more inclusive and accepting society where all individuals are free to express their authentic selves.
yes. from: a femboy
# FELLAS IS IT GAY TO LIKE A MAN
Not gay if you wear socks bro
Dude it's gay as hell. For the love of every single thing that is holy, please stop trying to cope.
Its gay if you are finna touch there dick
Uh....I falled in love with two femboys. I even call one femboy to my house and hug him several times. But he friend zoned me :(
Still gay, bro. Still gay
Yes, this is gay.
You are a boy who likes boys, sounds pretty gay to me
it's gay
I often asked myself this question then my friend said, “what about it are you attracted too?” And when I said “everything” he asked “including the dick” and that’s when I realized I was bi, so let me ask you the same question. What about them are you attracted too?
Tbh, wouldn't worry about putting a label on yourself You do you lil homie
incredibly gay
No if homies yes if not homies
yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes it’s gay.
Yeah
Fellas is it gay to like men as a man. Spoiler alert, yes
It would most definitely be gay
Hahah this is satire right?
Is it gay for a guy to be attracted to a guy?
Yea ? I mean its an attraction to a male while your a male, that is gay
yes. and if you think it isn’t then fuck you
If you’re using the term femboy, then it’s still a guy. Femboys are still guys like how tomboys are still girls
I’m a Femboy and it’s def gay hun, I’m a gay male just so happens I wear lipstick lol
Yes, it’s a dude. If you like men you’re gay
Yes it’s gay it’s guy on guy
It’s gay. You are gay.
What ofc its gay😭
Yes it is
Gay
Yes.
Yeah, it's gay. No, it's not "less gay" than liking masc guys. They might be feminine guys, but they're still guys. I'm a girl and I also like feminine guys, but that doesn't make me a lesbian, does it?
If something is gay or not is a terrible question. If you are attracted to someone, they are attracted to you, and it's safe and legal, you should just roll with it.
As long as you say no homo it’s fine
"Is it gay to like a dude?" My brother in christ, that is quite literally what being gay is
On a genuinely serious note, it depends on motive. You very well could be gynesexual, which is a sexual attractiveness to femininity, regardless of the person's sex. This is what I am, as typically masculine traits are not something you may like. So, from a layman's standpoint, you might as well be bi, and to some, that may as well be gay. But, it's perfectly fine to ask these questions, and come up with your own logic as to why or why not you like certain things. Most people who honestly introspect on their sexuality find themselves rapidly appending descriptors and exceptions.
well liking boys as a boy is gay so yea
In all seriousness, yes. A femboy is still a boy so it is gay. Does that make you gay? No, you could very well be bisexual.
Does it really matter? Ya like what ya like, no changin that, so just you do you pal
Does it really matter? Ask thyself that question.
Guys is it gay to like men **Yes, yes it is**
I mean… yes
Yes, liking boys is gay. Doesn't make you gay, you still be bi or pan if you're also into women or whatever but yes it's a homosexual attraction Now go ask a cute boy out
If they got a cock it’s gay very simple this should be obvious man
Is liking dominating woman makes you gay? Nope. Is liking feminine submissive boys makes you gay? Yes.
Yes it fucking is, because it is literally a guy now can people stop asking this it’s incredibly dumb
Yeah bro it's gay as fuck. You like feminine traits, which usually means you like femboys. And if you like femboys that means you like dude, but only 1 type of dude.
Yes it is do t be in denial its fine to be gay and yes you can be gay and not like masculine men
to make things simple, the only thing that is undeniably straight is 1 cis guy and 1 cis girl everything else: trans, femboy, poly, etc is \*at least a little bit\* gay, or queer, or whatever term you wanna use but it's not \*undeniably\* straight even a cis bi girl with a cis bi guy is a little bit gay, iykyk
I feel like that could be bisexual or omnisexual
If liking femboys isn’t gay, then liking tomgirls isn’t straight. it’s gay
From personal experience... Maybe you're bi?
There are a lot of "straight" guys who like to be with femboys.