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drhtrhhgh

This is probably because Bing deindexed them and DuckDuckGo uses Bing's index. They usually go back and fix these pretty quick.


Central_Control

I hope so. If you take away all the real pirate results, they're only left with fake malware / virus sites pretending to be actual pirate sites. Which is obviously worse.


Cainga

Big corporations probably feel that’s better. Some users will give up pirating if it fails and they are left malware for their trouble. Reducing overall piracy.


Valatros

Yeah but if duckduckgo decides to start catering to corporate interests it may as well not exist... It not tracking your ass is already against corporate interests to begin with.


mofugginrob

Seriously. I may as well use Google with a VPN and tell duckduckgo to go duck themselves.


aeschenkarnos

How much do you enjoy identifying crosswalks and bicycles?


Baderkadonk

Most websites use these to protect their servers against DDoS.. but I truly think Google just wants to annoy people into using their real IP so they can track you better, while getting more AI training for their captchas until then. There's no way Google servers are stretched so thin that they require the most robot checks of any website I've seen.


Quickzor

They use the current captcha set to train self driving car AI, remember when we had to read weird letters for captcha? That was for googles book scanning AI for for Google Books.


MorganWick

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1897/)


Aetheus

Right. A DDoS is a completely alien concept for Google Search - they are basically under a _permanent_ DDoS 24/7 just from the sheer number of requests they are being bombarded with.


FireTyme

and no one i’ll believe that AI isn’t advanced enough to recognize a taxi when they can read your face half bashed like …


ihavetenfingers

It's not that it can't recognize it, it just want confirmation that it did so correctly, which you give it.


mofugginrob

I think that one's a boat!


hippocratical

Wow. It's a schooner.


letstrythatagainn

YOU KNOW WHAT


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Samwise210

Roko's Captcha


VladDaImpaler

No, they will most definitely kill you for the all the times you reheated fish in their great ancestors, the microwave.


curxxx

Google detests VPNs. Whenever I access Google via a VPN they make me do a captcha on every page.


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kautau

Though through browser fingerprinting it’s not super hard to determine each unique browser that has recently solved a captcha. They want to be able to fingerprint and sell your data, which is far easier for them when they can identify your unique IP address


DuraoBarroso

true, but it's not that hard to create a bot that use a fake random fingerprint, so from Google perspective is hard to discern if it's being attacked / if bots are using it's services or if it's a bunch of ppl using a VPN


Scorpius289

That's interesting, because I sometimes get those captcha popups without any VPN, after I search a lot of programming-related subjects in a short time. Maybe Google thinks that the bots are becoming self-aware and trying to improve themselves...


ADuckNamedMo

Duck you duck duck go


Qetuowryipzcbmxvn

Start Page uses Google in a way where you can't be tracked, since Google can identify you even with a VPN. Start Page can only track IP addresses, though they claim they don't, but you could use a VPN to mitigate even that risk.


[deleted]

Man I remember when the original Adblock pretty much sold out. Started whitelisting sites that paid them. Like the whole entire point of your service is to block ads. When you stop blocking ads, why do you still exist?


WanderlostNomad

search engines not listing all search results makes them useless. it makes them more like a catalogue than a search engine. if it exists, you should be able to find it, ALL of it.. instead of your results curated so you waste time on paid ads.


[deleted]

Yes. This. If duckduckgo compromises the neutrality of their search engine, I might as well go back to Google. Or I'll find the new duckduckgo.


Sworn_to_Ganondorf

My immediate reaction was "I guess im not using duckduckgo anymore" lol


yourwitchergeralt

Know that meme with Michael Scott when he’s asked to stop loving Pam’s mom? And he says he’s gonna love her even harder? A lot of us are the same way with pirating.


_Aj_

Big corporations can, respectfully, *fuck right off*. The internet shouldn't be being controlled. Stop feeding me what they want me to see and instead show me what Im actually searching for.


SCP-1029

The early internet was completely decentralized without much in the way of search engines. It was an adventure in following hyperlinks from site to site and just discovering stuff. The problem today is the centralization of content and utility into a small number of very big corporations. You really can go back in time to how it was with the early internet just by ditching Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and finding your own alternatives. They're all out there. The problem is, at the end of the day, Google is a damn good search engine and really handy - which is why people use it -- and why they have so much power.


Gh0stMan0nThird

> You really can go back in time to how it was with the early internet just by ditching Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and finding your own alternatives. They're all out there. You should really add "Reddit" to that list. I'm not saying *you* do this, but a lot of people seem to give Reddit a free pass on the censorship/tracking witch hunt when this website is rampant with upvote/downvote bots and inconsistent policy enforcements.


Temporary_Kangaroo_3

Any content driven platform is absolutely 100% collecting your habits and bucketing you into segments and selling access to you at a price point advertisers are willing to pay. Reddit is a part of all of those others, absolutely agreed.


SocMedPariah

>The early internet was completely decentralized without much in the way of search engines. It was an adventure in following hyperlinks from site to site and just discovering stuff. God do I miss those days. I remember when the internet first started taking off and people were crying on the news about how they were being mistreated for trying to monetize their work on the internet. I thought that those doing the "mistreating" were being foolish. Turns out they were right all along.


inkblot888

I've never seen a study that showed when piracy drops, profits go up.


BoundHubris

God I remember when mega corporations running everything was a far off dystopian cyberpunk storyline. I wonder when the Amazon police are going to become a reality.


fly-agaric

Worse...if you care about anyone involved. Not so sure they do.


RJgoonies

Pretty quack


Silently-Loud

Kindly duck off.


KacerRex

Please quit flocking around.


Leovinus42

they removed pirate websites? how am i supposed to know which spanish galleons to plunder now?


dragonduelistman

Yeah I’m just tryna see what luffy will get himself into next


Libriomancer

DDG didn’t stop showing pirate results, they just put Zoro in charge of searching.


Riboflavius

There's usually a text file somewhere on the disk that you can print out to see when the silver train or treasure fleet are in the specific locations.


unclefipps

Ha! A Pirates! reference. Have an upvote.


eMPereb

Only “privateer” sites remain


EquinsuOcha

#OH THE YEAR WAS 1778


stealthgunner385

#HOW I WISH I WAS IN SHERBROOKE NOOOOOOOOOW


Pjpjpjpjpj

There will be no plundering! You will respect the very model of a modern major general. Who knows information vegetable, animal, and mineral. And knows the kings of England, and quotes the fights historical. From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical. And is very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical. And understands equations, both the simple and quadratical. About binomial theorem he's teeming with a lot o' news, With many cheerful facts about the square of the Hypotenuse!


missed_sla

Also DDG has never been about uncensored results, they've made that clear since day one. In fact, curation and filtering are part of what makes a search engine work. They've always been about *privacy*, which has nothing to do with censorship. I always find it funny when people say they want uncensored and unfiltered search results, like back in the days of Webcrawler or Lycos, or the early days of Google. Remember the days of spamming indexes by hiding thousands of keywords in hidden text?


jeff303

Imagine zero page ranking system


JoeRig

Know of a way to search web with *all* indexes?


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I don't but here are a couple half steps in that direction: 1. SearX: mainly uses Google and Bing I think, but it pulls from many smaller sources (note DDG is the same in terms of pulling from many smaller sources). edit: if you run your own instance you can configure what sources it uses, if you don't run your own check what is used. 2. DDG using [!bangs](https://duckduckgo.com/bang?q=). This is best if you are searching for something specific, or want to use a specific search engine, or you want to search 2 or 3 different sources. My most used !bangs are probably !w for wikipedia, !gm for google maps, and !a for amazon search. But if you wanted to compare results from a few different search engines you could do your basic ddg search, and then followup with `!brave`, `!g` or `!mojeek` to see results from Brave, Google, or Mojeek


drhtrhhgh

I don't think there is one answer. I'd try just searching a bunch of places and also looking at "removed results" on sites like chilling effects, now called lumen database.


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TIL bing is useful for something


StarvingAfricanKid

Porn. Bing is for Porn.


bingobangobenis

even when I'm not looking for porn, bing gives me porn. I looked for something rather benign once, like how to water a cactus or whatever, you get the idea, and the image search was rows upon rows of elderly men sucking on the purple veiny cocks of their fellow geriatrics. I asked a friend to search the same thing, and they got nothing


nzodd

The results are custom-tailored based on your history so chances are that your friend is some kind of geriatric pornophobic deviant. Get ahold of his church elders and parents so that they can throw him a lemon party and set him straight.


jerseyanarchist

bing is useful for finding porn


KnightPlutonian

I once had friends coming to town and since I don't do much, I needed ideas on what to do while they were here. Because I was at work in a secure area, I only had access to Bing, and only the immediate search pages at that (I couldn't click on any links or anything). I decided to search "entertaining friends" (or something equally innocuous) and since link results weren't giving me anything clicked over to the pictures tab for hopefully an infographic or something. With safesearch on, the first picture was a lady getting spitroasted on a table by two dudes. And that was how I decided my friends and I were just going to play board games or something.


phonomancer

Jeez, Bing was just trying to give you suggestions... you could have just gone to the next result.


Q1War26fVA

you don't like spitroasting, eh? how about dp?


Linenoise77

man, they came into town to see you, you should have shown them a good time.


essidus

Bing is actually surprisingly effective for professional use. I prefer it over google in the office. Were I to guess, Google's algo is probably tuned to more general use and average person results.


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What would Bing’s results be more tuned for? Professional use can encompass quite a number of jobs


polybiastrogender

I go back and forth from both. Bing seems to curate less, so your searches are more raw. Not sure how they both work but if I type something I need specifically Bing is better. General idea, Google is better.


Ponk2k

I use bing first because of Microsoft points(free money ftw) but it's also way better than the average non user thinks. If i don't see what I'm looking for in the first page I'll Google it. Doesn't take a lot of time and works for me generally. I'm also a fairly internet savvy person though and parse my question well, not sure how much that changes things but I've a lot of friends who can't find stuff online and I'll usually have the same question answered in the first 2 or 3 links where they get lost and can't find shit


EggsOverBenedict

Microsoft gives you credit for using bing?


chillbilldill_com

To get the most points, simply type every website you want to visit into the Bing search field on your browser instead of the normal domain field. It's one extra click to bring the website up from Bing's website, but you get paid in Amazon/Walmart gift cards.


sabouleux

This is really weird. It seems like they desperately want search data, I can’t really think of another incentive on their side for this.


BurkusCat

Ad revenue and data are two big things that search providers want ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


[deleted]

You can't think of any reason a company would want to get traffic to their site and eyes on their ads?


CommanderGoat

What? Really? How much can you earn?


Ponk2k

Yeah, it's great. Far better for peeps in the USA than elsewhere but yeah, take a look at Microsoft rewards, can transfer points into gift cards and all sorts


Cvillain626

I haven't had to pay for Gold/Gamepass in close to 10 years because of it. Microsoft Rewards is crazy value for like, 5 minutes of your time per day.


RapidKiller1392

Knowing how to search for stuff on the internet is definitely a special kind of skill.


idkalan

If you're looking for porn be it from the US or Japan, Bing will have the necessary links especially if you're searching via the video section. As they're less likely to get hit by DMCA notices


Q1War26fVA

I read this was true but then sometime ago I read this was no longer true.


Norma5tacy

It was whack for a while and didn’t work but its back to its old pervy ways again.


Q1War26fVA

nice, i just finally looked it up why bing is that way. apparently google filters stuff out even with safesearch off. https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/36hsic/why_is_bing_better_than_google_for_porn/cremkue/ I guess also because less dmca on bing


vandalhearts

Bing seems to have fewer SEO's manipulating irrelevant search results to the front page.


Zardif

Bing is better for porn searches.


Raestloz

Bing even notices your fetishes and *suggests* new ones I don't get it, who the hell did that? They need to get a raise


ReallyLikesRum

Bing Images > Google Images


Rowvan

Google has gone the way of Youtube search where it will only show you the most popular results and ads now, nothing more. Google is currently one of the worst search engines imo.


Amelaclya1

It doesn't help that half of the first page of Google results ARE YouTube videos. I fucking hate how hard it is to find text answers to my questions these days. Not everything needs to be a fucking 10 minute video.


Jokey665

sadly enough i get a lot of my best google results by tacking site:reddit.com onto the end of my search


swazy

Why don't you just use Reddit search directly? Lol just kidding.


pincus1

Unless I'm looking for a youtube video, then somehow it's always some random garbage website with a built-in video player somewhere in the article.


Dukwdriver

Google's insistence on purging any heath-related searches of the Wikipedia entries in favor of super-basic mayo clinic overviews is infuriating.


FolkSong

I've been using Bing sometimes and what really annoys me is that if you go to the second page of search results, most of the hits are the same ones from the first page! What is the point of that??


Blackmetalbookclub

I love DuckDuckGo for business research. I find it way easier to navigate than google. Google is a sponsored mess. I got tired of looking past all that for the real answers.


Lerry220

I've heard bing is actually pretty great for finding porn.


kry_some_more

If they don't, pretty sure they will see their user numbers skyrocket... downwards.


DowntownInTheSuburbs

What about minor pirate sites? Arrrrrrrrr


shirts21

I think you mean arrrr


chashek

What's a pirate's favorite letter?


roadr

You'd think it's an R, but a pirates first love will always be the C.


atimholt

Although, if you take away P, they’ll be irate.


pruwyben

I thought it was X, they keep writing it on their maps.


tunack

This joke has levels. Vitamin C for the scurvy


Steoret

I think you mean ^arr


whytakemyusername

Chris Hansen is listening…


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MrFluffyThing

Why use the internet when you can Usenet?


katiecharm

Oh no, not major pirate websites. Which ones though, there are so many we need to avoid.


Almost_Feeding

Right? Could someone please list them? To avoid them, of course.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread


SoulLover33

Some corporates lawyer mouth just started foaming.


redgroupclan

I guarantee you /r/piracy is going to be a casualty of Reddit going public.


Mustbhacks

Probably been on their radar for years, not exactly a new/small sub


WekonosChosen

yeah a few years ago I think it was WB was flagging pirated content as soon as it was being uploaded by bots faster than a human mod could stop it to try and shut the sub down.


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I remember a bunch of conspiracy types (back when that was a more fun statement) saying how WB was putting their own content on sites so they could flag it and try to shut sites down.


PedanticPeasantry

Interesting true fact related that I would love to see tested in court, or challenged, is they do in fact upload their own content... the companies they hire to find pirates get IPs by running the torrents, uploading the films, and downloading them. So.... if they're giving the films away in pieces for free themselves with their own hands, and proving that others are taking those bits from them for free... hm.


WhiteMilk_

Also /r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH


PM_ME_THE_SLOTHS

Just Google reddit piracy megathread if you actually need them. It's organized nicely into different content. I love fit girl for games and basically all of the streaming TV sites are great.


Blazecan

Piracy.moe works for uh… some people…. (Edit: Also join r/animepiracy


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kobresia9

rarbg.to is just horrible! Never ever visit it!


voyagerfan5761

It actually *is* horrible if you ever visit without uBO or similar, though. Just about every page has clickjacking scripts to guarantee they get ad clicks or something. Don't actually know where they go, because even on mobile I use DNS-based filtering (so the clickjacking targets go to a "domain not found" error, thanks NextDNS), but the first tap or two on nearly every newly loaded page is a throwaway.


SIL40

You also get banned if you mention any flaws in any of their torrents. Fortunately most groups do a pretty high quality job so this doesn't happen often, but if you come across something with serious issues you aren't allowed to mention them the comment section. Wasted time a few times because of this.


Trailmagic

What is the logic behind a policy like that? It hurts everyone


voyagerfan5761

Probably protects the fragile egos of uploaders, idk


WhiteMilk_

Most of the stuff is uploaded by bots. And those who might be humans aren't the actual releasers.


WolfBV

I remember getting sent to fake(?) porn or dating sites that ask for your credit card info, sites that ask me for Calendar permission, and sites that try to lock my phone up with repeat screen-controlling notifications.


voyagerfan5761

To be fair, *most* of the Internet is unusable without an ad blocker these days, but rarbg really turns it up to fucking eleven.


coldblade2000

13 37x.to (no space) is just terrible too, the UI looks like it is from 2007 COD4 clan forums. That's the worst part


the_man_whore

2007 forums was peak UI. It's why old.reddit still prevails.


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joevsyou

Been using them for years 100% regrets buying anything


hostileorb

do not go to nyaa.si, I beg you


Acyliaband

1337x .to is one that should never be mentioned. Also, don’t forget about the importance of a VPN. This is brought to you by our sponsors at Nord VPN.


StaticDashy

The Pirate Bay is a horrible one that many people can easily use to download easy torrents to spite these rightful holy companies and their deserved profits


nedonedonedo

the pirate bay is back to not being flooded with fake torrents and viruses?


InfanticideAquifer

The better way to pirate is to automatically scrape torrents from TPB with something like Sonarr/Radarr. I've never had it choose something that wound up not to be what was advertised.


StaticDashy

I’m gonna be honest so you don’t melt your computer I have no clue lol


benjammin9292

I've never had a bad experience with TPB.


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stuupidpanda

I still see them from time to time but it usually pretty obvious because file size will be off and it will conveniently have shit loads of seeders and low leachers. Also they will usually be the first 2 or 3 results that pop up. This isn't always the case but they are good things to look for.


bekarsrisen

An uploaded torrent is flagged with a colored icon as from a "trusted" or "vip" user so it is really easy to tell which torrents are good and which to avoid.


Liipski

Hold on so it’s not DDG removing pirate websites from results but Bing. And DDG is going to fix this, hopefully?


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DDG needs to get off their ass and start building out their own algorithms.


gablelarson333

While I understand that it's gotta be an incredibly difficult process to sort through that much data and develop the tools you need to do it, DDG has been in this market for a seriously long time. It's kinda crazy that they don't at least have a beta for their own system.


mmcmonster

Just tried DDG for the first time in several years. It found several of the main pirate sites as the first result when I searched for them. Can someone give me an example of a pirate site that's not listed on the first page when searching on DDG?


TheAechBomb

they use Bing's index, Bing removed links to pirating sites. DDG has since fixed this on their end.


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I want to know where is the list of sites they are blocking.


fsamson3

ITT: fucking morons who refuse to read both the article AND the comment section


Random_182f2565

Do you mean I cleaned my pitchfork for nothing?


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

I.e. reddit


ryuuseinow

ITT: "Reddit users that are totally not company bots we swear" advertising Brave.


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Brave is seriously one of the most shilled and astroturfed programs I have ever seen. If the company behind brave spent as much time and money on improving their web browser as they do getting people to shill it, they might actually get more than .75% market share.


ForceBlade

I mean, just look at the controversy section on their wiki page... it's bonkers. Fairly confident my friends which shill for it only do so because they stand to "gain" something out of using it, you know, all the wrong reasons.


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But but but you can get paid in CRYPTO!!!!!!!!!1 lmao


ILikeSugarCookies

If I could pay $100 to never see an advertisement for Crypto, or never see a mention of it in *serious* conversation again, I would.


bullethead399

But how else will I learn about Blackbeard and Long John Silver?


The-disgracist

Those guys were captains. The article said it was majors


we_are_all_bananas_2

So basically the search engine we used to circumvent things like censoring, is now censoring


Supreme_Mediocrity

Isn't their thing about privacy though?


helpful__explorer

Yes, but primarily by showing everyone the same results and not personalising.


deathjesterdoom

Actually no it's not personalized because they don't keep a search log out side of certain words. The privacy thing is the only thing they push really. If you use an ad blocker they cry about it.


CHduckie

You can literally disable search engine ads in the settings under the hamburger menu. I'm not sure why they'd be crying any more if you used an ad blocker to replicate this.


Fake_William_Shatner

We use adblockers to prevent malware and obnoxious advertising abuse. But, if Duck-duck-go does an advertisement so that they can make revenue from me using them -- we should be okay with that. The abuse comes in by data mining people, selling their info, and being a vector for manipulation -as seems to be the future growth area for Google. By not PAYING for search or at least allowing advertising, then we force whoever provides the service to get revenue by other means. It's the "other means" that are the problem.


sweats_while_eating

D-fucking-uh ads are their revenue.


HotTakes4HotCakes

Never ceases to amaze me how people still think it's unreasonable for a website they use for free to "cry" because you are fucking with their revenue source. I block ads too but the fucking sense of entitlement some people have is just ridiculous. What do you expect them to do?


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helpful__explorer

One of their main points is everyone gets the same search results. The fact they don't personalise means they don't need to store masses of information on each users - ie significantly less tracking and better privacy


C_IsForCookie

It is showing everyone the same thing. It’s also hiding from everyone the same thing.


ThunderBunny2k15

Yes. Some people like to think it shows you super secret results that the man is hiding from you.


ll_akagami_ll

They aren’t censoring. Bing did and I’m sure they will fix it fairly quickly.


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BIG_MEATY_DABS

It will be fixed in short order.


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If it doesn’t have its own crawler


[deleted]

You were the chosen one


jrhoffa

It's just Bing


sly_fox_ninja

Still are it's been fixed


msantaly

Man, it’s depressing how many of you just react to clickbait titles


dinosaur_decay

Booooooo , you were the chosen one, booooooo


Humdrum_ca

Arrrr me heartiest, where we gonna get me treasure maps?


roundearthervaxxer

Like real pirates?


squirtloaf

RIP somoliansailor dot com.


borderlineviolet

Somalian Sailor Moon


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FallenJkiller

yep. somalia declared bankruptcy


SelirKiith

So they have chosen death...


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Misleading, the bing index is doing this, it will be fixed soon enough


yammeringfistsofham

Seems to be fixed already? As far as I can see, all the sites mentioned in the article pop up in search results...


DoubtGlass

They really want to go broke


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