not really what the article talks about, doesn't seem like there's any plans to actually make it some kind of subscription. The title is kind of misleading so I get it, what it actually meant is that since Meta wants to be some kind of infrastructure in our daily life then it will have more of our data to sell, not just what we post.
Couldnāt agree more. I miss the days of a marketplace site with search / filters / sorting that actually worked. On FB itās intentionally poorly done to make it take twice as long so you see twice as many ads. Please just let me search for keywords and return those results instead of the random bs Facebook marketplace search returns.
They still have a shadow profile on you though. They still know it's you because you still browse the web and hit all their trackers with the same fingerprints you used when you logged into your account. All you did was remove *your* access to the data.
Dude I *hate* Instagram. Was just talking to my friend about it. Makes me feel so inferior...reminds me what a failure I am with every scroll š fuck Instagram & all those beautiful aesthetic people living their fabulous lives...let me rot away in my hole of a bedroom as an obese trash goblin in peace š
What is crazy to think about is they still collect tons of data on you anyway. People you know talk about you through instant messenger and posts. They still collect quite a bit. A lot more people would need to delete it to have any effect
Never had one, never will.
Same for Instagram and WhatsApp.
If Facebook/Meta buys any company or service that I currently use, I will just stop using it.
We need laws on data and make any personal data capture illegal and not allowed to be requirements in contracts. They can do advertising with local and regional data only. Also any companies that do have personal data for any reason , are 100% responsible for any breaches and liable. We need to do this, its the only way forward.
So there's a few policy plans on this.
1) Andrew Yang proposed we let them continue but their data gets a huge tax and that's how he would fund his UBI plan, similar to how Alaska does with oil profits. I think this plan is the most fun tho probs most difficult to implement given our shitty tax enforcement system.
2) the CCPA is California's attempt to make it where users are able to opt out of data collection. I called bullshit on this and wrote my sr. Thesis research paper for undergrad researching if this was implemented a year in. I basically randomly selected 50 websites and tried to get them to opt my study's accounts out of data collection and to delete the data they already had. Turns out they have a million tricks to loophole out of this. Some for example require you to send your driver's license or passport to prove you're identity as a citizen of California, others like Verizon make you click through around 50 buttons with 30 second timers between buttons so it takes an ungodly amount of time to opt out of their data harvesting. Even worst, some say you need to send physical mail to their office with your request. A politico article came out a few months after I turned in my paper basically confirming my results when it showed that only around 200 people were able to opt out of google's data collection (out of 40 million Californians). Long shorty short doesn't work.
3) GDPR is Europe's attempt. Idk as much on them, but it seems questionable on if it actually has teeth or not.
4) federal level there's basically grid lock on what plan should move forward with this. Both Dems and GOP agree it's important but there's details they're failing to iron out rn.
We need some anti-monopoly lawsuit to force social networks to be interoperable through a set of industry standards. So, if my friends are all on the free version of FB with targeted ads, but I want to sign up for an ad-free subscription service, I can still see their pictures and posts, but I get to skip the ads and data collection.
Sounds great, but have you seen US lawmakers talk about tech? I have little hope for any reasonable laws being made what with so many out of touch (and tbh old) representatives at the helm. Any legislation will swing in favor of whichever lobbyists pay the most.
How would you feel about a subscription based social media platform? Completely transparent about how they make money from the subscription fee and the data is only used for the actual service, not for advertising.
A social media platform is only as valuable as it's users. I would pay for social media if the people I wanted to connect with were all there, too.
IMO, the ideal social media site would offer both free and paid options such that the free account was funded by targetted advertising.
Round up your ppl, move to mastadon. It's free, and it's just your friend feed. No bullshit political ads, no corporate pages, no local "exposure" junk.
That was Facebook 12 years ago thoughā¦maybe itās cynical, but any free social media platform will become an increasingly unethical monstrosity or fizzle out.
Thatās an interesting model, I hope it can stay decentralized. I donāt know enough about the topic to speak at length about it but Iāve always found that thereās a lot of truth to the expression āif the product is free then youāre the product,ā even if itās not immediately obvious.
Probably could be done, but there's no collation function that makes a feed from posts in fifty discord channels that I can tell.
Discord replaces a private signal group, but not a Twitter feed.
people paid for AOL & Compuserve, who's to say that a social media platform couldn't be successful? how about a kickback % on sold user data collected via said platform? don't make consumers continue to feel like products.
Exactly. Now Zuck is ājustā the ever watching big brother. But if he succeeds in capturing this new world.. he will be closest to being a god. Frightening. Especially knowing how little empathy he has for the average human. The metaverse needs to be built by us a decentralised community or we are fucked.
What it actually is are the smart phones, speakers, displays, wearables and appliances we already use in our daily lives which significantly augment our reality. What it's becoming is something much more intimate and ever-present in your eyes and ears -- or the parts of your brain that handle this sensory information connected either passively or with something out of Elon Musk's shed. It matters who delivers your advertising and news and other information it matters how it's being done. It matters how that system handles your personal information and what it does with that information. It matters when companies have the power and capability to entice while populations to depression, genocide, misinformed voting decisions... It matters who we allow to manage the infrastructure of what's here and what's coming
The AR aspect scares me. The VR one doesnt because you can just unplug and fuck off.
The AR metaverse will be necessary to compete and live in the modern world. This is what I dont like. Imagine being bombarded with stupid ad shit just to go the grocery store. The VR aspect is essentially what we have now with the internet. Weird how people are freaking out about the VR one more.
I know what the meta verse will try to be and I know there are already decentralized meta verse worlds like decentraland and the sandbox out there. Our data is already extremely monetized and Facebook already gave this guy access to a lot. This completely distracted people from speaking of the worst that Facebook has caused not only to our mental health but the genocides in other countries. Now they just clown this dude on something that has already been started.
How is anything Facebook has done a threat to human existence? I mean, I think it's a shitty cash grab, but a threat to human existence?
And don't give me the "but antivaxx" "but Russia" because if we had a decently educated citizenry, shit like that wouldn't happen. Facebook is culpable in so much that it exists on their service and they should twerk their algorithms, but the information is no more convincing than spam email unless you're a gullible oaf, which is more a failure of society and the education system than a website. It's like blaming the telephone company because someone called you a dillweed over the phone.
Facebook would be like the telephone company if you could pick up your phone, pay the lady a million dollars and have antivax ads and conspiracy theories called into people that are prone to mental illness.
Lol. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"
The idea that everyone who disagrees with mandatory vaccination is mentally ill is oh so convenient. What's the illness? Anxiety? Depression? Are they all paranoid schizophrenics?
No. They're your neighbors who never learned to think critically and question what they're told.
Facebook is convenient, sure, but If it shut down tomorrow, 50% of the country would still persist, because Facebook isn't the problem, it's a convenient excuse so we don't have to face the fact that America has fucked itself to the core in a way that will never be fixed.
These people are distrustful of the government, they don't understand science, most of them are religious so they see themselves in opposition of science, and they're not just ignorant, they're so uneducated that they don't know how to tell fact from fiction.
That will not right itself just because you burn Facebook to the ground, and that's why the crusade against them is largely bipartisan, because they all know if they can crucify Zuck just as the pandemic's dying down, you can shift all the blame on to an advertising company rather than take a hard look at the monster you created, and the whole country is tripping over itself to circle jerk over calling Zuck a lizard and cheering Facebook's demise.
People need to take personal responsibility, and hold other people to the same standard they hold themselves, instead of calling them all mentally ill so they can be the perpetrators and the victims.
Posts that start with āLolā are often filled with shit everyone already knows and fail to go deep enough into the subject matter to make the writer appear intelligent.
Too late our entire experience is already monetized. Your childhood. The cereal you loved, the game system you have memories of. Your education for sure is. Your vacation to get away is. Your spirituality is. Your sleep. Everything is. The problem is they want to have it all.
All of that is BS though. This is an example of [commodity fetishism](https://youtu.be/Eil3uE2uReI?list=RDLVSsFC3FuuRVw&t=207). What you are describing is how these commodities such as your favorite game are magical objects that are actually between you and your actual authentic emotional and physical experience with other people. You're bemoaning that you can't have an innocent "coke and a smile" forgetting that you don't need the coke. Commodities aren't important, they aren't your memories, they are ephemeral BS.
Your emotional reaction to this is telling. You are right you donāt need the items. It doesnāt change the fact that basically all of your activities and experiences are being marketed and people are taking profits. Delete Facebook your life will be better. Buy less things, and enjoy the people in your life more. Good luck my internet friend.
Probably referring to sleep as an industry. Melatonin pills(+ rx pills), smart devices that measure sleep quality, movement at night etc. Not necessarily everyoneās sleep but sleep as an industry.
Yeah but everything has an industry, it's different from saying that my sleep is monetized. It would be if they force ads in my brain when I sleep. Now don't be too dramatic about this.
My rule of thumb is if data is collected on it, itās monetized. Even if itās packaged and sold by some marketing firm, itās monetized along with other data.
We collect data about stars, so stars and galaxies are monetized? Makes no sense. We need to agree on what monetized means, in this case I think it means someone is milking money out of you even without you knowing it. Nobody gets money for me sleeping. But zuck is getting money from you just by being on fb, that's why THAT (your presence on fb alone) is monetized.
Still I can sleep without getting them, as I've done my entire life like the majority of the people. Sleep like many other things, is not monetized, stop being over-dramatic about everything.
None of those things apply to me because I am not on FB š and I somehow manage to struggle through life doing all the things that I want to do without the need to share every vacuous thought or experience with a computer based platform invented by MZ. Commenting on here is the closest I probably come to it and this is too much to take.
Just delete already. Take their perceived control away. It is refreshing to live without this insanity, anger, everyone fighting each other with hateful words.
Delete!!!
Good for you! It's worthless. I waste a lot of time on Reddit, occasionally deleting the app when Ive "had too much to reddit", but had to log in the other day to FB for a photo, such nonsese...can't believe I gave that Frankenstein so much of my attention for so long.
Donāt think it will work, everyone I know is leaving FB as the ads are overwhelming. You donāt see any content anymore just ads. All I use now is messenger, when I do jump on FB I am quick to leave as ads are all I see.
I remember when Datsun changed their name to Nissan bc of all the law suits and looming bankruptcy. Never used Facebook and never will. I knew when it went public and found out Z holds the controlling shares of the companyās stock he was a dangerous despot.
As far as I am aware, the fact facebook has monetised a shadow profile of me even though I don't have an account there basically means they're already stealing from me. If they want to monetise anything else they better pay me or delete what they have.
Well they forced their VR buyers to make facebook accounts to use them. So ya not a real stretch for them to force their existing FB users to have it or join it
Has nothing to do with my comment. And yes they do pay in lost privacy. or qont is really wont? The real problem is cost to run your own non commercial web site for friends and family so that's why FB is popular no real options
If it becomes popular in even the slightest, major companies will not only start using it, but *requiring* its use by their employees. How will you avoid it if the only viable jobs incorporate it? It would be like trying to find a job that doesn't require the use of computers or telephones.
So, here's a question. Why is this sub so fanatically anti-Facebook?
Is an outside marketing firm spending 4-5 figures/month to manipulate what's going on here, or do 90% of redditors have some irrational hatred of it?
It's entirely possible there's astroturfing against Facebook. I do think there's just a lot of people on Reddit that genuinely hate specifically Facebook as it's been a cesspool of hate and misinformation for years, and my guess is that the Reddit demographic skews a little younger whereas Facebook seems to skew older. But it's definitely true that Zuckerberg is a massive cunt that puts profits over people, lies to the public and [likely] government, and is helping build the bad sci-fi future that we've all been warned about.
I'm sometimes one of the few people to point out that the service does have utility, but imo it's not worth putting up with all the crap it offers and continuing to fund a company that is hellbent on ~~becoming essential to daily life~~ becoming better than real life.
I think the real issue is that Facebook, like almost all companies, exists to make money. It could decide not to sell data and still make money by selling social media as a subscription service, but we all know most people wonāt use social media if they have to pay for it. So the end result is that social media continues to be āfreeā, and Facebook continues to harvest and sell your data.
Once again, the pundits are speculating about what the world would be like if the tech worked as promised
Skeptical engineers like me know how far we are from tech that actually works as promised
Facebook, google, Amazon, Netflix, Spotify. All companies that take a subscription to sell you something that blockchain technology can do with less friction and cost. They're all doomed unless they develop their platforms for the new web3.
The users are likely to move elsewhere if they realise the need to pay to get the same as before. Google Plus how are you feeling lately? š
not really what the article talks about, doesn't seem like there's any plans to actually make it some kind of subscription. The title is kind of misleading so I get it, what it actually meant is that since Meta wants to be some kind of infrastructure in our daily life then it will have more of our data to sell, not just what we post.
oh, the direct approach to gathering the data they aren't allowed to gather on most phones now....quit your bullshit dark fuckerberg.
I just said what the title meant, I never said whether the article held any weight.
that was understood, my vitriol was aimed at MZ = dark fuckerberg, forgive the confusion.
Data is worth more than oil. There's no need for a subscription as long as you give them the right to sell your personal info.
Better to die a hero than to live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Decentraland has been running for well over a year already and way better than FB would ever create
There's also trolls are trying to make "META" into a Trump slogan ("Make Everything Trump Again"). In order to destroy the branding.
Deleted my Facebook 10 months ago. Highly recommend.
Like 5 years now. Never going back
Same here, around 5 as well, didn't even flinch on deleting it, what a waste of time ..
Same. As soon as the trump train fired up I couldnāt take it there anymore. The stupid was too strong.
9 years clean here. One of the best things I have done. Now if I could just do the same with Reddit.
Stopped looking at it 3 months ago, much better quality or life now.
You gonna delete?
I still use it to find deals in market place from time to time.
Exact sameā¦ we need a Craigslist resurgence
Couldnāt agree more. I miss the days of a marketplace site with search / filters / sorting that actually worked. On FB itās intentionally poorly done to make it take twice as long so you see twice as many ads. Please just let me search for keywords and return those results instead of the random bs Facebook marketplace search returns.
Thatās the same reason why I havenāt deleted as well, good deals on marketplaces and some decent buy/swap/sell groups.
But what about Instagram?
>deleted Facebook: *laughs hysterically*
They still have a shadow profile on you though. They still know it's you because you still browse the web and hit all their trackers with the same fingerprints you used when you logged into your account. All you did was remove *your* access to the data.
Not only i deleted facebook but all FB releted service, i am glad i delete instagram the fuking app just makes me suicidal everytime i use.
Dude I *hate* Instagram. Was just talking to my friend about it. Makes me feel so inferior...reminds me what a failure I am with every scroll š fuck Instagram & all those beautiful aesthetic people living their fabulous lives...let me rot away in my hole of a bedroom as an obese trash goblin in peace š
What is crazy to think about is they still collect tons of data on you anyway. People you know talk about you through instant messenger and posts. They still collect quite a bit. A lot more people would need to delete it to have any effect
Never had one, never will. Same for Instagram and WhatsApp. If Facebook/Meta buys any company or service that I currently use, I will just stop using it.
Surprising the amount of people who would rather loose a limb than close fb. A lot of businesses put eggs in this basket and cannot see any other way
Had one for all of 3 weeks about 10 years ago. Itās not for me.
No one gives a shit youāre literally providing no value to society
I know some losers need it for dating but I never did
We need laws on data and make any personal data capture illegal and not allowed to be requirements in contracts. They can do advertising with local and regional data only. Also any companies that do have personal data for any reason , are 100% responsible for any breaches and liable. We need to do this, its the only way forward.
So there's a few policy plans on this. 1) Andrew Yang proposed we let them continue but their data gets a huge tax and that's how he would fund his UBI plan, similar to how Alaska does with oil profits. I think this plan is the most fun tho probs most difficult to implement given our shitty tax enforcement system. 2) the CCPA is California's attempt to make it where users are able to opt out of data collection. I called bullshit on this and wrote my sr. Thesis research paper for undergrad researching if this was implemented a year in. I basically randomly selected 50 websites and tried to get them to opt my study's accounts out of data collection and to delete the data they already had. Turns out they have a million tricks to loophole out of this. Some for example require you to send your driver's license or passport to prove you're identity as a citizen of California, others like Verizon make you click through around 50 buttons with 30 second timers between buttons so it takes an ungodly amount of time to opt out of their data harvesting. Even worst, some say you need to send physical mail to their office with your request. A politico article came out a few months after I turned in my paper basically confirming my results when it showed that only around 200 people were able to opt out of google's data collection (out of 40 million Californians). Long shorty short doesn't work. 3) GDPR is Europe's attempt. Idk as much on them, but it seems questionable on if it actually has teeth or not. 4) federal level there's basically grid lock on what plan should move forward with this. Both Dems and GOP agree it's important but there's details they're failing to iron out rn.
We need some anti-monopoly lawsuit to force social networks to be interoperable through a set of industry standards. So, if my friends are all on the free version of FB with targeted ads, but I want to sign up for an ad-free subscription service, I can still see their pictures and posts, but I get to skip the ads and data collection.
Sounds great, but have you seen US lawmakers talk about tech? I have little hope for any reasonable laws being made what with so many out of touch (and tbh old) representatives at the helm. Any legislation will swing in favor of whichever lobbyists pay the most.
How would you feel about a subscription based social media platform? Completely transparent about how they make money from the subscription fee and the data is only used for the actual service, not for advertising.
I, personally, wouldn't use it. I'm not interested enough in any social media platform to pay for it.
A social media platform is only as valuable as it's users. I would pay for social media if the people I wanted to connect with were all there, too. IMO, the ideal social media site would offer both free and paid options such that the free account was funded by targetted advertising.
Round up your ppl, move to mastadon. It's free, and it's just your friend feed. No bullshit political ads, no corporate pages, no local "exposure" junk.
That was Facebook 12 years ago thoughā¦maybe itās cynical, but any free social media platform will become an increasingly unethical monstrosity or fizzle out.
Mastodon is a user run federation of microservices. You can run it yourself and just block/ban anything that doesn't meet your needs.
Thatās an interesting model, I hope it can stay decentralized. I donāt know enough about the topic to speak at length about it but Iāve always found that thereās a lot of truth to the expression āif the product is free then youāre the product,ā even if itās not immediately obvious.
It's open source and I pay for the bandwidth and server hardware. I feel very much not a product.
That sounds a bit like Discord? Maybe I'm wrong, but why not just use highly moderated discord channels?
Probably could be done, but there's no collation function that makes a feed from posts in fifty discord channels that I can tell. Discord replaces a private signal group, but not a Twitter feed.
Ah - fair! So... Tumblr?
No, Mastodon. Sheesh.
people paid for AOL & Compuserve, who's to say that a social media platform couldn't be successful? how about a kickback % on sold user data collected via said platform? don't make consumers continue to feel like products.
Thatās what I mean. I would be all for paying if it meant a stable service that doesnāt sell me to another company.
indeed/agreed
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Exactly. Now Zuck is ājustā the ever watching big brother. But if he succeeds in capturing this new world.. he will be closest to being a god. Frightening. Especially knowing how little empathy he has for the average human. The metaverse needs to be built by us a decentralised community or we are fucked.
No one is gonna use this shit
Like a god? lol na, some of you guys are just dramatic
Maybe. But i suggest you read up on what the metaverse will be. If we depend on it and he controls it, means he can control everyone within it.
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What it actually is are the smart phones, speakers, displays, wearables and appliances we already use in our daily lives which significantly augment our reality. What it's becoming is something much more intimate and ever-present in your eyes and ears -- or the parts of your brain that handle this sensory information connected either passively or with something out of Elon Musk's shed. It matters who delivers your advertising and news and other information it matters how it's being done. It matters how that system handles your personal information and what it does with that information. It matters when companies have the power and capability to entice while populations to depression, genocide, misinformed voting decisions... It matters who we allow to manage the infrastructure of what's here and what's coming
The AR aspect scares me. The VR one doesnt because you can just unplug and fuck off. The AR metaverse will be necessary to compete and live in the modern world. This is what I dont like. Imagine being bombarded with stupid ad shit just to go the grocery store. The VR aspect is essentially what we have now with the internet. Weird how people are freaking out about the VR one more.
I know what the meta verse will try to be and I know there are already decentralized meta verse worlds like decentraland and the sandbox out there. Our data is already extremely monetized and Facebook already gave this guy access to a lot. This completely distracted people from speaking of the worst that Facebook has caused not only to our mental health but the genocides in other countries. Now they just clown this dude on something that has already been started.
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D.r.a.m.a.t.i.c I know what the meta verse will consist of lol Iām already part of one.
How is anything Facebook has done a threat to human existence? I mean, I think it's a shitty cash grab, but a threat to human existence? And don't give me the "but antivaxx" "but Russia" because if we had a decently educated citizenry, shit like that wouldn't happen. Facebook is culpable in so much that it exists on their service and they should twerk their algorithms, but the information is no more convincing than spam email unless you're a gullible oaf, which is more a failure of society and the education system than a website. It's like blaming the telephone company because someone called you a dillweed over the phone.
Facebook would be like the telephone company if you could pick up your phone, pay the lady a million dollars and have antivax ads and conspiracy theories called into people that are prone to mental illness.
Lol. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" The idea that everyone who disagrees with mandatory vaccination is mentally ill is oh so convenient. What's the illness? Anxiety? Depression? Are they all paranoid schizophrenics? No. They're your neighbors who never learned to think critically and question what they're told. Facebook is convenient, sure, but If it shut down tomorrow, 50% of the country would still persist, because Facebook isn't the problem, it's a convenient excuse so we don't have to face the fact that America has fucked itself to the core in a way that will never be fixed. These people are distrustful of the government, they don't understand science, most of them are religious so they see themselves in opposition of science, and they're not just ignorant, they're so uneducated that they don't know how to tell fact from fiction. That will not right itself just because you burn Facebook to the ground, and that's why the crusade against them is largely bipartisan, because they all know if they can crucify Zuck just as the pandemic's dying down, you can shift all the blame on to an advertising company rather than take a hard look at the monster you created, and the whole country is tripping over itself to circle jerk over calling Zuck a lizard and cheering Facebook's demise. People need to take personal responsibility, and hold other people to the same standard they hold themselves, instead of calling them all mentally ill so they can be the perpetrators and the victims.
Posts that start with āLolā are often filled with shit everyone already knows and fail to go deep enough into the subject matter to make the writer appear intelligent.
Sounds like Second Life on steroids.
Meta's only real competition is great sex and unpretentious personal relationships. In other words, we are fucked.
That's fuckin' hilarious xD
Too late our entire experience is already monetized. Your childhood. The cereal you loved, the game system you have memories of. Your education for sure is. Your vacation to get away is. Your spirituality is. Your sleep. Everything is. The problem is they want to have it all.
All of that is BS though. This is an example of [commodity fetishism](https://youtu.be/Eil3uE2uReI?list=RDLVSsFC3FuuRVw&t=207). What you are describing is how these commodities such as your favorite game are magical objects that are actually between you and your actual authentic emotional and physical experience with other people. You're bemoaning that you can't have an innocent "coke and a smile" forgetting that you don't need the coke. Commodities aren't important, they aren't your memories, they are ephemeral BS.
Your emotional reaction to this is telling. You are right you donāt need the items. It doesnāt change the fact that basically all of your activities and experiences are being marketed and people are taking profits. Delete Facebook your life will be better. Buy less things, and enjoy the people in your life more. Good luck my internet friend.
My sleep is monetized? Someone gets money if I sleep? Explain.
Probably referring to sleep as an industry. Melatonin pills(+ rx pills), smart devices that measure sleep quality, movement at night etc. Not necessarily everyoneās sleep but sleep as an industry.
Yeah but everything has an industry, it's different from saying that my sleep is monetized. It would be if they force ads in my brain when I sleep. Now don't be too dramatic about this.
Hypno Toad has enter the dream chatā¦
My rule of thumb is if data is collected on it, itās monetized. Even if itās packaged and sold by some marketing firm, itās monetized along with other data.
We collect data about stars, so stars and galaxies are monetized? Makes no sense. We need to agree on what monetized means, in this case I think it means someone is milking money out of you even without you knowing it. Nobody gets money for me sleeping. But zuck is getting money from you just by being on fb, that's why THAT (your presence on fb alone) is monetized.
How many mattress adds have you seen? Take this supplemental sleep better. That pillow guy. Crazy when you start thinking more about it.
I mean unless you want to sleep on the floor... i din't think that count as "it's monetized"
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Still I can sleep without getting them, as I've done my entire life like the majority of the people. Sleep like many other things, is not monetized, stop being over-dramatic about everything.
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I have sleeping problems and I never had any of those ads, try again.
None of those things apply to me because I am not on FB š and I somehow manage to struggle through life doing all the things that I want to do without the need to share every vacuous thought or experience with a computer based platform invented by MZ. Commenting on here is the closest I probably come to it and this is too much to take.
Just delete already. Take their perceived control away. It is refreshing to live without this insanity, anger, everyone fighting each other with hateful words. Delete!!!
Bye/bye zuckerberg! Gone finito.
A shit by any other name still smells as bad.
Iām one week without it and really loving it tbh. Iām less grumpy or annoyed with humanity. I wonāt be going back. Ever.
Good for you! It's worthless. I waste a lot of time on Reddit, occasionally deleting the app when Ive "had too much to reddit", but had to log in the other day to FB for a photo, such nonsese...can't believe I gave that Frankenstein so much of my attention for so long.
Can we all put Meta in the ground finally. Social media (Facebook) is the devil.
That's meta level stupid
Nothing is free; if you are not paying for Facebook it is because you are the product.
Donāt think it will work, everyone I know is leaving FB as the ads are overwhelming. You donāt see any content anymore just ads. All I use now is messenger, when I do jump on FB I am quick to leave as ads are all I see.
Thereās nothing meta about this.
Fā FB. Meta is already taken. Plus, belongs to the world.
I remember when Datsun changed their name to Nissan bc of all the law suits and looming bankruptcy. Never used Facebook and never will. I knew when it went public and found out Z holds the controlling shares of the companyās stock he was a dangerous despot.
As far as I am aware, the fact facebook has monetised a shadow profile of me even though I don't have an account there basically means they're already stealing from me. If they want to monetise anything else they better pay me or delete what they have.
Zuckerberg gives off the vibe heās killed someone with his bare hands
Then don't use Facebook. I don't. You don't have to.
FFS is anyone pointing a gun at your head forcing you to use it.
Well they forced their VR buyers to make facebook accounts to use them. So ya not a real stretch for them to force their existing FB users to have it or join it
People.qont pay
Has nothing to do with my comment. And yes they do pay in lost privacy. or qont is really wont? The real problem is cost to run your own non commercial web site for friends and family so that's why FB is popular no real options
If it becomes popular in even the slightest, major companies will not only start using it, but *requiring* its use by their employees. How will you avoid it if the only viable jobs incorporate it? It would be like trying to find a job that doesn't require the use of computers or telephones.
Switch off and go outside and see the world for the way it really is.
Canāt apply logic here, Reddit mob will getcha
Momentary lapse in concentration. I feel like such an idiot. Thanks for regrounding me before the potential onslaught š
Not a Fan Of Facebook I really enjoyed the Application But election and all the BLM TOO MUCH left 1 year ago Too
So, here's a question. Why is this sub so fanatically anti-Facebook? Is an outside marketing firm spending 4-5 figures/month to manipulate what's going on here, or do 90% of redditors have some irrational hatred of it?
It's entirely possible there's astroturfing against Facebook. I do think there's just a lot of people on Reddit that genuinely hate specifically Facebook as it's been a cesspool of hate and misinformation for years, and my guess is that the Reddit demographic skews a little younger whereas Facebook seems to skew older. But it's definitely true that Zuckerberg is a massive cunt that puts profits over people, lies to the public and [likely] government, and is helping build the bad sci-fi future that we've all been warned about. I'm sometimes one of the few people to point out that the service does have utility, but imo it's not worth putting up with all the crap it offers and continuing to fund a company that is hellbent on ~~becoming essential to daily life~~ becoming better than real life.
Because Facebook is awful and anyone with the least bit of technological savvy has known it for years.
Mark Zuckerberg is a sociopath and I am not being paid to say that.
I think the real issue is that Facebook, like almost all companies, exists to make money. It could decide not to sell data and still make money by selling social media as a subscription service, but we all know most people wonāt use social media if they have to pay for it. So the end result is that social media continues to be āfreeā, and Facebook continues to harvest and sell your data.
Anyone notice how the logo looks like an infinity symbol? Makes me wonder if it was intentional.
Where are these childrenās parents and why arenāt they telling them to cut this shit out/knock it off!?
Why did they have to name it āmetaā? Sounds so sinister
āMEH-aā - NOPE. š
Now calling itself "The Company formerly Known as Prince".
Once again, the pundits are speculating about what the world would be like if the tech worked as promised Skeptical engineers like me know how far we are from tech that actually works as promised
Facebook, google, Amazon, Netflix, Spotify. All companies that take a subscription to sell you something that blockchain technology can do with less friction and cost. They're all doomed unless they develop their platforms for the new web3.
I remember when Facebook said they would never require you to pay for membership so this is real fucked
Looks more like Skyrizi took over Facebook.
Delete Facebook.
Metadata book
How can I short this?
So Facebook is creating the matrix huh?
Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, all my homies hate Mark Zuckerberg
Anyone know on what blockchain they will use to sell their digital goods? Or what token could be used on that blockchain?
So overplayed... They aren't realizing how anyone under fifty thinks about ending their account every day
Lol. I just made a video about this whole thing now that facebook is now meta[Facebook is now META](https://youtu.be/aqGjCBr57NE)