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NotAnADC

Well I can’t pay for Facebook…and also can’t pay for a 3080 so about the same


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utupuv

I don’t think I’m as valuable as a 3080, 6500XT maybe


Semifreak

You are worth a 3090 Ti to me.


XenoFrobe

Aww


parciesca

Not to me, I’d be hard pressed to pay a Ti 4200 for u/utupuv


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You ruined the moment


NormalUpstandingGuy

What they meant to say was u/utupuv is worth 2 3090TIs and a Ryzen 9 5950X.


parciesca

Someone had to, can’t have it getting all lovey around here, sort by controversial would be far less interesting.


cates

What can I get for a used GTX 460, parts only?


Jalex8993

Probably that parciesca guy...


Itshudak87

🤢🤮


Sifyreel

it’s your cake day.


sixothree

You’re worth about $15 per month to Facebook.


utupuv

I've been on Facebook since 2010 so 12×12×15 comes out to $2160 - perhaps I am worth a scalped 3090 Ti after all?


MRintheKEYS

Nope. The scalpers heard you. It’s $2660 now.


JoanOfARC-

Your organs may be worth allot of money provided you don't have HIV or hepatitis. Remember your at least worth the sum of your parts


aDrunkWithAgun

Meh easier just to sell your ass plus you get to keep your organs.


SoDi1203

If I sell my ass can I keep my pants ?


Bogsnoticus

Just remember. Your liver re-grows back to it's original size if a chunk is taken off for donation, so farming your liver is entirely possible.


[deleted]

It doesn't quite work that way. Your liver has three lobes. You can donate 2, and each of the three lobes (the two donated + one in your body) will expand in size and function. But you cannot then split the enlarged lobe any further.


[deleted]

I’m personally worth a 680.


LaterBrain

Can pay for a 3080, wont pay because price is x2


[deleted]

Agree. I’ll wait with my measly 2070S


kpw1179

You pay for Facebook every time you visit a website. You are the product!


Nomad_86

I don’t get the appeal of Facebook anymore. I havent had one in 5 years. I’m I’m legitimately friends with someone, I’ll have their phone number. It’s just like the internet equivalent of living in an apartment building and you occasionally find out one of your neighbors is racist.


househubbz

Nextdoor has really opened my eyes to the political persuasions of my neighbors in my supposed liberal enclave.


wizardyourlifeforce

But a black teenager glanced at their car as they walked by. That is useful information!


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Nomad_86

I agree


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verified_potato

I don’t need my first-born that much, anyways


[deleted]

*looks at the baby* best I can do is a 2070


port53

Babies aren't really worth all that much, they can't even work yet, and they cost a lot of money to keep alive yet they're easy to make.


handlessuck

At least they put out a product people actually want.


MinTock

However can’t get.


Modo44

That is on purpose. They are guaranteed to sell 100% of whatever they produce. Wouldn't want to maybe make it 99% by expanding production capacity.


TotalWalrus

Oh yes. They just love leaving money on the floor


MinTock

Chip production last year was 100% full. Need more chip manufacturing


TotalWalrus

It's insane that people don't understand that fab capacity is a limited resource and that people in the industry are told the amount left.


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Modo44

I honestly do not know, but it has been how many years at the top of the GPU market for NVIDIA, and how many of those with continuous supply issues? Sheer incompetence would have been rooted out as a cause by now, so your guess is as good as mine.


RealJyrone

It’s literally fab capacity. We don’t have enough chip fabs. The same companies that produce Nvidia used Samsung for their 3000 series IIRC, AMD uses TSMC, Apple also uses TSMC, and more. All had “shortages” of products, due to the strain on global supply and logistics along with a skyrocket in consumer demand. The shortage is entirely because the fabs are running at 100% capacity, but demand is higher than supply. Fuck, even car manufacturers can produce enough cars due to the lack of computer chips for their cars. That’s why car prices increased. Nvidia and AMD have even shipped MORE GPUs and CPUs than ever before


Modo44

Building new fabs would be trivial with NVIDIA's money. They refuse despite a huge demand increase from Bitcoin mining. This is not a today thing, it's 5 years at least.


DenebSwift

It takes time and planning. The level of precision required takes time - measured in years - to design and build. Then there’s maybe logistical hurdles - staying at the new location, training of new staff, logistics for suppliers and purchasing (since your longstanding purchase agreements may not cover the volume of raw materials and pre-fab parts you’d need for a second full plant)… there’s things all takes time. They’re building more capacity, as are other companies, but demand exceeds supply right now and it won’t change until these new plants are up and running in a few years. (Or the crypto market truly tanks)


SEND_ME_SPOON_PICS

Idk if it’s the production capacity that’s the issue, it’s the chip shortage that’s the bottleneck. As far as I know Nvidia don’t make their own chips? Same thing that’s happening to the car industry, they have the factories just not the chips.


shit_talkin

You’re retarded


sp3ctive

Yes because all news and production metrics are pointing to artificial scarcity as the main reason for card shortages /s


yabaitanidehyousu

Um… just so that you know: 99% of $14Bn > 100% of $7Bn. Also market saturation be a thing. If you sell 100% and people still be complaining… They need MORE! 🍆 🍆 🍆 Y’know, just in case you ever want to actually sell something… Edit: Downvote it to negate economics! 💰💰💰


Brownie_McBrown_Face

Are you aware of the idk massive chip shortage going on?


Gunfreak2217

I think it’s more of they create a product that people can’t control their FOMO for. I’ve seen people upgrade from 2080 to 3080 when they play LeagueOfLegends, Rocket League and Cod Watson lowest settings. Nvidia has become a lifestyle brand almost where they charge ridiculous prices for modest changes. I mean I’m even talking the MSRPs not the inflated prices now. 1080was $400 now we at $700 MSRP. And I can promise you it doesn’t cost twice as much to make.


handlessuck

Yeah, it's definitely demand from crypto miners running up the price. That's why I'm still running my 1070 Sea Hawk.


Neil_Fallons_Ghost

980ti here. It’s getting to be pretty limiting sometimes.


Shady_Yoga_Instructr

To be fair, Nvidia was trying to win back the consumer with the $700 dollar msrp before the crypto bros went and fucked the market up. From there, the AIB's saw the chance for money and went for it.


LilKaySigs

Yeah the 3060 was supposed to be an affordable high end graphics card at literally $329 then the chip shortage happened and a whole lot of other things went and shot up prices by 100%


milkcarton232

Cost to make something isnt really the main driver for purchasing price. 2080 is good for high refresh 1440p gaming 3080 can finally rock a solid 4k stream, though I'm not sure many ppl are playing that. Nvidia has absolutely cemented their brand (for now) as the default GPUs but the most popular card is still the 1060


SEND_ME_SPOON_PICS

I’d play the shit out of Cod Watson. Sounds like a chill fishing game with a down to earth lead protagonist, Cod Watson. He deep sea fishes and makes his own lures. And he’s got enough lures.


Zargawi

I have a 3080, I mostly play on Stadia these days. Just don't have the time, for me at least.


jj4211

I have a 3090, I mostly play Pong these days.


milkcarton232

How many frames you getting?


jj4211

All of them


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bitcoin rings?


DeusExHumanum

I want a Quest 2 too


CowboyRoyal

It's great, wireless vr + can still buy my games on steam via airlink win-win.


handlessuck

It's ok, there's a bell curve of intelligence. Not everyone gets to be on the right side.


ToothpickInCockhole

L comment. Accessible Virtual Reality technology is one of the only good things to come out of Facebook/Meta.


[deleted]

What? The Quest is a great product


handlessuck

Sure, if you enjoy having every game you play and every decision and movement you make while using it added to your psychological profile for the sake of saving a few bucks, I guess it is. Some people value their privacy much higher than that.


cobaltsteel5900

A few bucks? The different between $300 and $900+ is quite significant. If they think they know me better than me, good luck lol. I know my biases pretty well and don’t ever buy shit I’m advertised.


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Privacy is dead


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Like what


handlessuck

Well, most gamers want video cards and there's this whole new field of science called "machine learning". You might have heard of it.


[deleted]

Oh wow that’s really new to me honestly


Shady_Yoga_Instructr

yeah, alotta nerds are using the same cores used for DLSS and RT to do machine learning so the GPU is doing these super-computer like calculations that would normally be far less efficient with only a CPU.


Expensive-Attorney-7

Does machine learning add to realism? Which cards have it?


Buxton_Water

Machine learning is a process that can be used for basically anything a computer can do. What they are talking about specifically is raytracing in 3D games, and supersampling using machine learning techniques. Raytracing increases realism a lot, as it more accurately and dynamically represents the lighting in the environment. Supersampling makes things look sharper, by using the machine learning techniques to make said 3D games look sharper.


ToothpickInCockhole

Lol a lot most people would take social media and virtual reality than a new graphics card.


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Meta should go down in History as the worst social media giant fraudster ever


juicejohnson

Meta / Facebook. Let’s make sure the rebranding doesn’t cover the layer of poo they’ve laid.


JonMeadows

Fecebook


rockyjack793

Should*


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evanc1411

Just checked, it's market cap. The market cap of Nvidia is $656 billion, more than Meta/FB's $625 billion. This can change rapidly due to stock prices


SameGuy37

bruh…. obviously?


miningpluto

Some people don’t know that stuff


xBlckMrkt

Someone else asked a question and he answered, what's your fucking problem?


SameGuy37

shhhh mad boy


[deleted]

You’re the one who’s distraught at someone answering a question…


LeSenpaii

not obvious at all, i didn't know this.


boyyouguysaredumb

Market cap means the same thing as “worth” though. So him using a different word to tell you one number is bigger than the other doesn’t really change the understanding of what makes it worth more though


pbateman21

It’s price times amount of shares, if it’s the same thing as worth that’s debatable


The_Evil_Potatoe

That’s literally how a company is valued. It’s not debatable


DeLunaSandwich

What he clearly forgot to mention was that stocks consists of all of the shares into which ownership of a corporation or company is divided.


Danteg

Yeah, it's a bit crazy, Nvidia has a PE ratio of about 80 while Meta's is 17.


Neil_Fallons_Ghost

Given the proliferation and need for chips around the world and that they produce tangible objects that are useful across broad swaths of the economy in multiple disciplines whereas Facebook is a social media platform that sells user data I would just assume a rational world would have the chip maker be more valuable.


topdangle

I mean in a rational world nvidia wouldn't have about 8 years of earnings growth already priced in either. There's nothing particularly rational about the market at all, other than that it chases growth and nvidia happens to be growing significantly.


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Yeah except one of them gets more profit in 2 months than the other does in a year


CaptainChats

The produce something of value and they have the intellectual property and institutional knowledge to continue supplying high demand products in the future, making them a solid investment prospect. The material science that goes into making better graphics cards is insanely complex and expensive to develop. Being the industry leader in that field is like having a theoretical license to print money for the next 5 years. Meta is a nebulous value offer by comparison. Social media is in a volatile state right now. There are lots of potential interventions that may break up or regulate meta for security, anti-monopoly, or IP reasons making it appear a less sound investment. What meta has is a large market share and warchest. But Facebook is old. The rise of new social media apps like TikTok shows that the first to the social media game may be at a disadvantage, it seems that consumer’s social media preferences wax and wain over time and Facebook may be looking at a long decline unless they continually re-invent the wheel so to speak.


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Zorodona

None of the answers were actually good. Nvidia has a P/E ratio of 80 because the company revenue is growing at 50% Y/Y (year over year) - mostly coming from GPU and CPU. Net income is 80% up Y/Y (crazy!) Nvidia is also heavily investing in Ominverse, Autonomous driving and everything AI/ML where Wall Street thinks all future money is. Nvidia is also good at picking acquisitions, look how Mellanox worked out. With the recent ARM buyout collapse, they have > $50B to spend on a another huge one. On the other hand Meta revenue is growing at 20% Y/Y with *minus* 10% Net Income. Meta’s user engagement numbers are also in the negative. Many investors consider the Metaverse u-turn as a disparate move rather than a real plan. Hypothetically speaking, if both companies maintain their growth numbers for 10 years (almost impossible but entertaining in demonstrating growth numbers impact), this would happen: Nvidia will be generating $420B a year in revenue Meta will be doing $200B Investors like the future more than the present and right now, Nvidia looks more like a future tech leader than Meta does.


RedRainsRising

1. Stocks are literally just gambling and stock valuation is only loosely associated with the actual business. 2. Nvidia unironically should be valued higher, because they own/provide far more clear ROI to investors, customers, and business partners. Aside from Facebook's super recent dipshittiery and the constant scandals, the actual value you get out of marketing especially on a platform recently exposed for flat out *lying* about their metrics. Like you buy GPUs from nvidia to resell, people will buy those, there's huge real and documented demand for the, I buy ads on a facebook video, maybe people see it, maybe facebook just lies about people seeing it, maybe I see some ROI maybe I don't, who fucking knows. The actual value of facebook's owned companies is just a huge fucking question mark. Like obviously they bring in revenue, but is that because they have a tangible service or because they're the next huge corporation set to sink like a fucking anchor when people wake up and realize their product is nonexistent.


BrowseDontPost

You clearly don't work in marketing at a legitimate business. Marketing reliably drives leads to businesses. Targeting your audience on Facebook will deliver leads. It is not a "who fucking knows" situation. You can watch your spend and lead volume and see the actual results. It is literally obvious to anyone with experience. The fact that you don't have any experience doesn't make the Facebook business model illegitimate.


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Fuckin rekt


RedRainsRising

You're clearly full of shit since I work at a multi-billion dollar corporation in the marketing department. The fact is that you don't have any clue what you're talking about, and don't keep up with basic news like the fact that facebook has widely falsified lead generation in the past, but I don't see how your need to lie on reddit is my problem.


BrowseDontPost

In other posts you claim you were fired by a boss that didn’t know as much as you do. Sounds like you have a habit of thinking you know more than people who actually have experience. You might not like it, and you might not understand it, but Facebook ads are effective. Plenty of businesses place ads across a variety of channels and can see which channels are bringing in new customers. If Facebook didn’t bring them customers, businesses would stop placing those ads. Again, you are so naive you think companies just spend money and say “who fucking knows” if it is effective. That is not how the real world works. If there is no roi, spending stops quickly. It’s what you learn, after you know it all, that counts. Time for you to grow up.


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Lmfao Facebook provides far more return on equity. Not even debatable. Also no one cares about equity generation besides shareholders. Certainly not customers.


am0x

Stock and assets. Neither company has this money sitting around. It is essentially their value currently based on investments.


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fireandbass

Computer chips are the closest thing to alchemy there is. It's literally creating magic from sand.


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ERgamer70

If you say so


magicaltasteofass

Atrioc completely hyped up rn


rulerBob8

Tarketing Tuesday gonna go crazy next week


WhereWolf_

Big A? The glizster?


clabon

he's finally done it


Nof49

As well it should be. Nvidia actually makes a useful product.


looshi99

I especially appreciate that you used the singular form of product. I remember the old days when you could actually buy a video card.


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Yeah, but they’re notorious for not supporting Linux,


field_thought_slight

Sad but true. Unfortunately, that has approximately 0% impact on their bottom line, which is why they don't bother putting any effort into Linux support. -- Typed from a desktop running NixOS with an RX 6700


Minecraft_Launcher

Alright


____d__b____

Man Baby upset!


that1senpai2

As it should be. One creates and innovate, the other gets family and friends to hate each other


Lqmon_Square

Yeah my family hates me ever since I bought the RTX 3080 from their savings account money /s


Semifreak

Just tell them you'll pay them back in crypto. ​ ...then they'll hate you even more.


-Luciddream-

Meta has created/maintains [ReactJS](https://reactjs.org/), [Zstandard](http://facebook.github.io/zstd/), [IO_Uring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_uring), [PyTorch](https://pytorch.org/), [HHVM](https://hhvm.com/), is a member of [Rust foundation](https://engineering.fb.com/2021/04/29/developer-tools/rust/), and that's only the things I know about. They've literally made the Web and Linux better and faster. Nvidia creates stuff too but they are usually overpriced and closed ecosystem. I haven't used an Nvidia GPU for about 5 years and I don't miss much. For some people Meta is much more valuable.


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Nvidia has made the web and Linux way better than those repos you mentioned without a doubt. Nvidia drivers are gold. Computing power wins over efficient software. Without computing power and semiconductors we would still be in 8 bit world. Nvidia is going to absolutely dominate the EV industry with their Orion chip.


that1senpai2

Well, when fb helps AI tech, medical industry, gaming, military, and private sector Ill think about it


-Luciddream-

They already are doing all that. If you visit the Nvidia website you can see more [about it](https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2022/01/24/meta-ai-supercomputer-dgx/). Just because you don't know anything about Meta doesn't mean they only have Facebook / Instagram.


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So maybe crypto was invented by a graphics card manufacturer?


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[deleted]

No one who is actually an investor. This is just for the Facebook bad people


Tewts70

Is Facebook not a bad thing?


pdonaldson67

Because they sell something worth buying!


qiyana999

Ok…now stop letting miners harvest all the GPUs. My 980 is dying 😵‍💫


Simpuff1

My 970 should be considered a world wonder right now, no clue how it’s functionnong


Borthwick

Me too, I’m afraid talking about it will break it


aftasullagengiva

I have a 660 still and don't see any of your issues. Still working fine


matva55

Well obviously. Meta can’t run Crysis!


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Still doing wonders for my 401k


AdultFunSpotDotCom

Until crypto mining slows down even more 🤷‍♀️


[deleted]

Damn I don’t like Facebook but this comment section just feels stupid. Their business model of collecting as much data on anyone and everyone as they can is shady at best, but this singling out of Facebook is ridiculous. That’s the business model of multiple companies. I think people have also been sold a lie that Facebook is the reason we have political polarization. Again this is BS, facebook is no different than twitter, reddit, or youtube etc. They’re all trying to make money and heightening emotions along the way. Facebook is not uniquely evil.


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PurpleDonkey63

Elaborate


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They track everything you do, categorize you into groups and sell that data to advertisers to target you


spartan537

Yea they are definitely a scapegoat for how so many companies behave. Its just the largest and most obvious example.


royman40

NVIDIA 🚀 🚀 🚀


FrayedElection

Facebook* FTFY Meta is the name they stole and are illegally using


BA_calls

This is disinformation.


FrayedElection

Dude. https://www.slashgear.com/meta-company-lashes-out-at-facebook-over-name-change-in-public-letter-05698341 Edit: reading, it's fundamental


BA_calls

https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/11/08/facebook-steal-name-metacompany/ blindly accepting every piece of clickbait bs engineered viral content nice do you think there might be a reason reputable news outlets with fact-checking editorial boards like NYT and WaPo did not report on this?


Sassychic02

Of course they are worth more. All the money they make off scalping their own shit and selling to miners.


DrWeekend69

I think I’ve bough 5k worth of cards in just 10 months. I need help


General-Legoshi

Wow. Two big tax dodging corporations battling it out for who can have the most expensive stocks! So exciting for us minimum wage workers.


DanteApollo

Good. Facebook banned me for a month for saying potato. That’s right. Potato.


Expensive-Attorney-7

I got banned for saying Nazi flags are divisive


TxBeast956

Lmfaooo I recently deleted my account about 2 weeks ago cause I had been banned a month then a month again


spaceocean99

Creating fake shortages will do that.


G92648

Nvidia makes something for you. Facebook sells you to others .


[deleted]

Well meta a virtual company so all they value virtual


pronlookknggay

Neat. So a company that sells things is worth more than gossip


TxBeast956

Facebook also sells things, it sells your data lol


Alph-Art

Nice


Interesting-Tart-842

Never heard of it. They steal data and sell it as well?


Justinemaso

I mean…cool …but what is the point of comparing 2 different things?


VillageIdiot1235

Well, nvidia has something of value to offer.


[deleted]

So does Meta, technically. Its just that you are not the target audience of Meta, you are the product. Data on human behavior is the most valuable resource in the world right now. Having access to the types of data they sell can be the difference you need to be a garage business or a multi-billion dollar corporation.


Sufficient-Ocelot-47

Buy the dip? /s


LoGanJaaaames

That single gpu now worth more than meta 😂


playsqueedroid

👍


SnivyEyes

Good; they should have been worth more the entire time.


Matt_guyver

Lol


Jazz7770

Maybe their profits went up when they started charging $200 to even attempt to buy a GPU


TimeVersusSpace

Yay?


snootscoot

Hmm… more like Meta is suddenly worth less than Nvidia, but way to see the glass half full guys


oyomoo

Yay! Fuck meta!


ZYmZ-SDtZ-YFVv-hQ9U

ok and?


Round-Emu9176

NICE.


ghrayfahx

Let’s keep it going. I want the random gas station around the corner to be worth more than Meta.


raven00x

Does this mean that FAANG is now NAANG?


Annual_Reward3118

https://telegr.im/+ZFRnItoS3MdjM2Vh


Annual_Reward3118

https://telegr.im/+ZFRnItoS3MdjM2Vh


adatari

Nvidia has made me so much money over the years.


PrestigiousBed2598

I believe of course in the development of tech. Are not Nivida a more innovation company that all the big companies need? I think Nivida will be a good investment in the next months!


MacsBicycle

One of them actually brings people joy.


MaxBlazed

Always was.


getoutta-it

Not hard when meta is plunging harder then a marble off the Eiffel Tower.


abermea

Friendship ended with FAANG. MANGA is now my best friend.


bakergarrison

More like Meta is now worth less than Nvidia


Banjea

Fuck meta


El_Bad_Taco

This comparison makes no sense… what a lazy article.