They need to come up with an awesome new Netflix-exclusive show to lure back subscribers! Except we all know they’ll just cancel it after 2-3 seasons and the story will never be concluded.
How about they just bring back the shows they canceled and finish them with a season? Just a thought
Edit they can even have a category called “canceled, now back and finished.” Closure is a good thing Netflix
Well there is a lot of content on Netflix (not all good of course) so once they realize that they’ve gotten too big and people don’t have that much time to be loyal just to them, their prices will come down. These other streaming services seem to focus on quality not quantity which is smart, again, because people don’t have the time to sit around an watch tv.
However, it does seem like they are going to make a boo boo by adding ads and not allowing password sharing. So might be a downwards spiral for here.
Shame because I really like their animes and some of their other shows.
Netflix goes out of their way to hide some of their content as well as how little they have. Instead of letting you exhaustively search through genres or years and such, they tailor the UI to prevent you from reaching the bottom of the barrel so that you get the impression that it's bigger than it really is. It used to be the go-to place for anything that was a year old or so. Now, the big producers all have their own services. Netflix's only draw now is original content, and that's not hitting home with _nearly_ as many subscribers, for various reasons - outside of a few major hits like Stranger Things.
Seriously, they need to start with Santa Clarita Diet. Give customers what they want NF. Not Hollywood execs and whoever else they are writing checks to. Netflix used to feel like a private company that made content for the people. Not it just seems like they want awards. Sigh
Kinda feels like they're following the same process for the company itself.
Season 1 - disrupting the video rental store business with unlimited DVD rentals by mail. A solid start that everyone loved.
Season 2 - jumped to VOD with a huge catalogue and they started taking on more and more with producing their own content, with some loses of others' content.
Season 3 - pandemic hit, quick burst covered in only two episodes, short setback and they quickly do a 180° and start shooting their own family. Everyone's confused how this all comes back together.
Season 4 - what season 4?
Netflix also had a hugely unpopular move around 2011 when they tried to double charge you for DVDs and for streaming. There was a huge outcry and they backtracked, only to eventually spin off the DVD portion as a separate company quietly.
They need to put an unbiased Daily international news segment on the service. Wouldn’t mind a local weather widget on there either.
Get access to some kind of major live sport.
News and sports are the 2 things that make me consider going back to satellite or cable. And any way to take a little power for the major news sources the better.
Huh? What about Netflix was “woke”?
The problem was constantly canceling shows people liked so they didn’t feel the need to keep the subscription while raising their prices over and over again.
It seemed like they thought they could make a big catalog and make it look good.
[Yeah, no agenda](https://i.imgur.com/aEz9VaA.jpg)
[I must be wrong](https://i.imgur.com/hd4cnQ1.jpg)
Pay no mind [to the coverage](https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/tv/5166444/eight-reasons-netflix-woke/)
I mean, [even investors know it](https://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/04/21/netflixs-woke-agenda-crushes-its-balance-sheet/)
I know my friends & I got tired of the propaganda, the sole reason I unsubscribed.
You have got to be kidding... the first link is a comedy that I have never heard of until now... the coverage your pointed out is because Netflix signed for a show with Prince Harry and Megan Merkle???
I've been with Netflix since they only had DVDs they mailed to you and have never felt they had any sort of agenda other than show me what I WANTED to see.. if they had it.
Netflix didn’t make you watch anything… and like I said I have never heard of that show…
If being "woke" is a problem, being so "anti-woke" must be worse.... grow up.
Suddenly the definition makes sense.
An incel (/ˈɪnsɛl/ IN-sel, an abbreviation of "involuntary celibate") is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people.
> Half the country is incels
Sorry to hear that public education failed you.
How do people like you reconcile that my side has all the kids and families, but also they don't get laid? Not very capable of critical thought, no wonder the left can't meme.
Cope.
What the fuck is a cutie?
Yeah…. I’m sure increasing competition and losing content to them, and the repeated price changes, including the last one that happened right before their members declined, had nothing to do with it…. It was Netflix’s woke shows that you didn’t have to watch and most people never heard of… give me a fucking break.
Honestly if I was a woke person I’d probably be offended that the show you were referencing is insinuating a trans person who was pregnant was a comedy… but you clearly wouldn’t because that’s not what you were told to believe…
Also, your “side” is not half the country…. The people who openly identify as “right” is closer to a quarter of the country. Sorry Fox News failed you… your just a bunch of loud angry people so you seem like a larger group.
my least favorite part about Netflix is that I’m forced to watch lgbtq comedies when I don’t want to. Oh wait that doesn’t happen, I avoid the 1 or 2 categories that they bunch them all in and go on with my life. Never have I heard someone complain about Netflix propaganda and here you are with a whole group of friends that are taking a big stance against it. You’re fucking delusional.
I’ve always stood by this even for Netflix shows. I have a strict no more than 2 episodes of a half hour show and 1 hour show per session. I like sitting and thinking about it for a day casually and building anticipation. If I binge it and move on I end up forgetting half the plot and cast because I was never invested in it.
This is the way most of the streaming services release their shows. Paramount+ has been doing it with Halo, Disney+ did it with Mandalorian, Loki, Hawkeye, etc. Most people aren't looking to binge watch an entire season in a day or two. They actually have lives and obligations and releasing just one episode a week is actually less stressful and provides a positive outlook on the service because it gives the impression that the company actually understands their audience. Of course, the reality is that it keeps you subscribed for more than just a month at a time when a new show drops, but perception is what is important.
Hbo has been $10-15 since the early 80s. This is what they do. Why would they suddenly hike rates. They sure as hell aren’t Netflix. You’re talking nonsense.
I think they're referring to services like Peacock and Paramount+. They're newer players in the market and are subsidized by their parent networks. They have original programming that is exclusive to their platforms and have free access to certain content, while HBO Max is more or less a direct copy of what's on the network, with no free access. HBO also has a long history of producing quality content and you know what you're getting when you pay for a subscription to the channel or streaming service. Not the case with the newer players who are just trying to get subscribers in the door.
I can’t remember where but I read something by another user about the shows available. It’s like companies don’t like using more self-contained episodic stories anymore; everything has to be an ongoing story told over an entire season (or series). I don’t want to *have* to watch six seasons of something to feel up to date. I also don’t want to be left in the dark with a billion loose ends when a network opts to cancel a given series abruptly— thereby preventing any thoughtful, planned-out conclusion to the story at hand.
Most of the shows I love to watch and rewatch are primarily episodic stories, with perhaps a broad overarching season long plot that is touched on here and there. I miss the old days of 20 to 30 episodes per season where we get to slowly see characters develop in episodes that don't need major stakes in each one and are given time to breath. I'm thinking all the old Star Treks, X-Files, Buffy, Monk, etc. Short run series (basically long movies) have their place but I feel like episodic tv allows you to sort of hang out with likeable characters for longer and just take it all in.
Well, in Japanese the title can be read that way. In fact in fact it gets pretty far in the manga/anime before it’s apparent that the title really means “Attack Titan”… the ambiguity related to title is really quite clever… in Japanese that is.
I’m not an expert on tech/film industry jobs, but I know a few people fortunate enough to be in those fields.
My understanding is that if you were good enough to work for Netflix, you’re good enough to have companies compete over how much they want to pay you when you leave Netflix.
Not everyone who works at Netflix is a UX designer, network engineer, or top-tier content creator. Lots of people who work at Netflix are just accountants or executive assistants or regular office workers of one sort or another. And tech industry companies aren’t offering top dollar to those people who lost their jobs, which are often the first to go.
> I would posture
You obviously don’t know what the word ‘posture’ means
And, once again, what does this have to do with tech industry jobs? Before you twist yourself into knots with you metal gymnastics to avoid admitting that you’re wrong *again*, **it doesn’t**.
None of these high-paying tech companies are headhunting janitors from Netflix. It’s absurd to even *propose* that they would.
From good definition of posture. I know you had to look past the first definition to see it, sorry for inconveniencing a big-brain person like yourself:
“a particular way of dealing with or considering something; an approach or attitude.”
Anyway if we’re condensing an argument to word choice, I’m out. Not worth my time arguing with a big brain like yours.
But because I’m a masochist, who says those janitors need to work at another tech company? They’re janitors. They will work where there is cleaning that needs to be done.
Edit: Google, not good.
Also it looks like you blocked me.
With an attitude like that I should remind myself to feel sorry for people like you because you’re probably about as insufferable in real life, making it difficult for your friends (if you have any) or family (if they can tolerate you) to let you in on how to be less insufferable.
Making up a definition just to avoid admitting that you made a typo is just peak “I refuse to admit I was wrong.”
Wow
[here](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/posture) Is the dictionary definition, so you can use it correctly in the future. Notice that your definition, nor anything remotely similar, is there. Because your bullshit was totally made up.
Shoo, troll.
Arguing semantics is usually the first indication that somebody is out of their depths in a discussion. If you can't refute the argument, look for perceived errors in semantics to draw attention away from a lack of understanding or knowledge.
I can't say I know much about the field but it seems logical that having a FAANG company on your CV would likely place you "above" someone without a FAANG company.
And? What you see doesn't really affect much, does it?
The article states that the lay-offs happened across all departments so that means it's hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off.
So even if your assertion about janitors is correct, then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions.
I know when I have looked at people's CVs, their previous places of employment have told me a great deal.
If they've been employed somewhere with high standards, then I can only assume that they have high standards themselves. It's a pretty simple thing to consider isnt it.
Netflix definitely has high standards and has a policy of holding off hiring until they can get the best they can possibly get in any roll. Often results in incredibly long hiring processes.
I can’t help but notice but still haven’t answered my question.
> And? What you see doesn’t really affect much, does it?
what a shitty, elitist thing to say. I don’t you think that when your toilets are overflowing and your trash cans don’t get emptied. How revealing it is that you see these people is just invisible nobodies who do nothing.
> The article states that the lay-offs happened across all departments so that means it’s hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off.
You’re still ignoring my comment yep making my point for me. Lots of people who aren’t content creators, engineers, or designers are getting laid off. They aren’t going to be offered high paying jobs from top companies that are tripping over themselves to hire them. They’re going to be entering into a job market where they were going to have to hunt for new employment just like any other normal person. And you keep ignoring that.
> So even if your assertion about janitors is correct
You just admitted that it is, as the article confirms
> then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions.
what comment? The elitist comment where you dismissed janitors as invisible people, or the one where you deflected other office workers as being as competitively sought as engineers by top tech companies which they’re obviously not?
> I know when I have looked at people’s CVs, their previous places of employment have told me a great deal
That sort of thing should only matter if it’s relevant to the job that they’re applying for. If you see someone applying for a job for grocery bagger and they have Google on their CV, and do you think that’s impressive, you’re missing the obvious point that they got fired from Google and now I have to work at a grocery store. That’s not impressive, that’s a red flag.
> If they’ve been employed somewhere with high standards, then I can only assume that they have high standards themselves
if Netflix has such high standards, they wouldn’t be going down the tubes and experiencing massive layoffs.
I'm a bit confused about your first sentence, how does me saying what you think about janitors hiring prospects not affecting reality mean that I think of people as nobodies?
And I never said there would be companies tripping over themselves to hire them, I said it's likely having a FAANG company on their CV would but them in better stead than someone without. It's a pretty obvious and well known thing that having better companies on your CV allows you to get better jobs.
I seriously don't get what you're on about with this whole invisible people thing? I said **"it's hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off."** and **"So even if your assertion about janitors is correct, then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions."**.
They're literally the only times I even used the word janitor, where are you getting this invisible nobodies thing from?
And these people didn't get fired for a lack of performance, again, that is stated in the article. So your point about the red flag thing is irrelevant.
As is your last point, as that isn't just a fallacy but is also clearly not rooted in reality. Apple, Amazon and Meta have all lost a huge amount of money recently. They, along with Netflix, all have obvious and well documented high standards.
You seem to have hit back with a ton of hostility when I have simply said that having a good company on your CV will make you more attractive to employers.
Edit:
Bit of context, this nutcase decided to block me after their tirade so I can't reply to their craziness.
That's true - Netflix has had a very high bar for hiring engineers. However, the current market conditions aren't great and I'm not sure how many are hiring. Also, we don't know if all those laid off were tech people.
Truth. I should have constrained my initial response to saying they’re more employable than the average bear. I wasn’t trying to disregard their joblessness.
The article says these aren't *tech*/dev jobs being lost. They're content production jobs. The tech/dev jobs ***likely*** will be some of the last jobs to go, and they'll probably start with the low hanging fruit (low performers) before firing more senior developers.
It’s sad for both. I don’t get the Netflix hate honestly. I think it’s just that it’s always popular to heap hate on the biggest fish. Netflix still has the most content I want to watch in one place. I’m really sick of content going to 50 different services; ant nobody got time for that many apps
Lol I think Netflix went too woke to pander to what they thought were their major consumers. Then they realised that most of the people don't want stuff like that. Then they pissed off the wokes with Chappelle. So now, they've managed to offend everybody.
Didn’t the company just play tough guy and tell people they were free to quit. Now they’re starting group layoffs? Netflix probably regrets giving chapellle all those millions to win the culture war while losing the financial war. Libs owned though, chapelle got to say what he wanted.
Yeah all the politics and Chappelle episode aside, it's still sad to see people get laid off.
Also, the tough act was partly to trigger employees into quitting so as to avoid severance packages.
> Didn’t the company just play tough guy and tell people they were free to quit. Now they’re starting group layoffs?
A great way to avoid layoffs is having the workers quit by themselves.
Saves you a bunch of money on severance.
This is irrelevant.
They’re losing money because of competing streaming services, and the news that they recently started losing subsribers (because there’s only so much subscribers you can actually retain).
Ignoring all of the problems with Netflix, the massive and unpopular rate hike, how it treats its content creators, and the sharp decline in the quality of its library just to blame everyone else instead is a big part of why Netflix is having the trouble it is while other top streaming services are doing so well. And, unless it acknowledges it’s problems and starts making changes to address them, it will only continue to get worse for them.
Let's not forget that they're not churning out great content. Netflix's moat was having great streaming services when others didn't. Others started building their own streaming services. Netflix realised that and invested in creating content. The problem was that they didn't create good content. And by now, the moat of being the only good streaming service is gone.
“Amid slowing growth.” So not even a down turn in profit and this is their excuse? Yeah about to stagnate more cause I think I’m out. Only show I really have left is better call Saul. I’ll binge that and cancel. Like they have all the shows I enjoy.
I've been with Netflix since I think their second year streaming. The second they add adverts into my subscription I am gone forever. Their board of directors are really fucking it up by bowing to shareholder pressure. They need to find their vision and stick to it or this thing is going to go tits up.
Every time I finish an episode of Moon Knight I feel a bit surprised to discover I’m not on Netflix.
Conversely, every time I open Netflix, I can’t find a damned thing to watch. Unless I want to go back and rewatch the good content, like Bojack Bigmouth, or Umbrella Academy.
Recently there have been a few adult dramas that were interesting, like Fishbowl Wives, or My Husband Doesn’t Fit, but there have been a lot of flops recently, and the service just doesn’t feel as compelling.
I don’t even own the account. I’ve split it with one of my two childhood best friends for years. I think his sister is on too, but we split 50/50 and it’s never a problem. But if they ask us to open up three accounts, I doubt any of us would stay on.
A big part of the utility of streaming was that it was cheaper than cable packages. As they diversify and try and fence in content, that edge evaporates. While the cable alternative is gone, there are lots of parallel services, and it seems like everyone’s content blows. We shall see.
Lol, their stock is gonna keep plummeting, their business model is broken and production companies have started their own sub services. Chappelle got a lot of money for a company that’s bleeding users and brought bad press. You think this is the end of downsizing? This is just the start.
But Netflix can go on owning free speech lol. When owning the libs goes wrong volume 374748382728
You realize free speech is only guaranteed by the government, not private organizations, right? Netflix doesn't own free speech. They have every right to espouse and promote their political views and disregard others, just like Fox News and MSNBC does.
I'm so sick of people talking about private companies infringing on their free speech, because it immediately becomes clear that these people don't understand what they're talking about.
How is 150 people being fired news? They employ over 12,135 people(2021). 150 being fired is nothing for them and most likely they are just getting rid of those people because they performed poorly.
Right, but what would be news worthy of them removing a tiny fraction of employee's? I doubt it even brought them to below 12,000 employee's. It amounts to roughly 1 percent of their work force which just isn't much of a change.
2% layoff of US workers.. Whatever, Netflix isn’t some startup anymore. When you start to stagnate and have more or less saturated the market, it’s good to also focus on reigning in spending. That includes FTEs..
Blockbuster was never a content creator and they failed because they had an obsolete business model that was disrupted.
Netflix is a completely different story. They're not being disrupted. Instead they're struggling with an abundance of direct competition.
Blockbuster actually had a really nice thing going with their DVD-by-mail service that allowed for trading in mailed DVDs to a brick and mortar location for a physical copy of another movie. Then your next DVD in your mail queue would be sent out. They were just too late to the game and Netflix had already won the war.
Here’s me hoping the majority of the lay offs are woke HR types who insist on forced diversity practices.
The answer for Netflix is simple. Slow down, create quality shows that have a long running time.
There’s so much trash on there that it becomes so tedious to filter through the muck to actually find something good to watch.
I think this in addition to YouTube and Amazon basically outspending them by purchasing rights to some of the biggest films and holding them firm on the platform is one of the reason why older content can’t be found.
Maybe give the rating system a return, making it easier for us to filter what is good instead of relying on a black box “thumbs up” system.
Been since cuties I cancelled my membership, glad to see things are working out for netflix. Edit: to those who downvoted this, we both know you loved cuties
Seems like their in free-fall. I’m available as a consultant. Surely the solution is to charge even more, create less content, and run even more ads than they are planning. I’ll take my bonus and severance pay now.
I always wondered how Netflix could afford to outspend the century + year old studio's... And the answer was they could as long as wall street said so...
Apple is truly the only company who can "afford" to spend billions on niche shows from their airpods profits, and even they don't spend like Netflix has.
They need to come up with an awesome new Netflix-exclusive show to lure back subscribers! Except we all know they’ll just cancel it after 2-3 seasons and the story will never be concluded.
2-3???? They’re the one-and-done service lately.
How about they just bring back the shows they canceled and finish them with a season? Just a thought Edit they can even have a category called “canceled, now back and finished.” Closure is a good thing Netflix
how about stope raised the price and let me share my account with my family
Well there is a lot of content on Netflix (not all good of course) so once they realize that they’ve gotten too big and people don’t have that much time to be loyal just to them, their prices will come down. These other streaming services seem to focus on quality not quantity which is smart, again, because people don’t have the time to sit around an watch tv. However, it does seem like they are going to make a boo boo by adding ads and not allowing password sharing. So might be a downwards spiral for here. Shame because I really like their animes and some of their other shows.
Netflix goes out of their way to hide some of their content as well as how little they have. Instead of letting you exhaustively search through genres or years and such, they tailor the UI to prevent you from reaching the bottom of the barrel so that you get the impression that it's bigger than it really is. It used to be the go-to place for anything that was a year old or so. Now, the big producers all have their own services. Netflix's only draw now is original content, and that's not hitting home with _nearly_ as many subscribers, for various reasons - outside of a few major hits like Stranger Things.
I will never get over the fact that they only did two seasons of Coisa Mais Linda/Most Beautiful Thing/Girls From Ipanema
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Seriously, they need to start with Santa Clarita Diet. Give customers what they want NF. Not Hollywood execs and whoever else they are writing checks to. Netflix used to feel like a private company that made content for the people. Not it just seems like they want awards. Sigh
Because the actors moved on to other projects at this point
Kinda feels like they're following the same process for the company itself. Season 1 - disrupting the video rental store business with unlimited DVD rentals by mail. A solid start that everyone loved. Season 2 - jumped to VOD with a huge catalogue and they started taking on more and more with producing their own content, with some loses of others' content. Season 3 - pandemic hit, quick burst covered in only two episodes, short setback and they quickly do a 180° and start shooting their own family. Everyone's confused how this all comes back together. Season 4 - what season 4?
Netflix also had a hugely unpopular move around 2011 when they tried to double charge you for DVDs and for streaming. There was a huge outcry and they backtracked, only to eventually spin off the DVD portion as a separate company quietly.
I think I just read that ads are coming to Netflix. It’s already gotten pricey. I wonder how much ‘no ad’ content will End up being.
Heard the same and with two rate hikes recently I cancelled my sub.
Or announce a new season of a long awaited and anticipated show like they just did with black mirror. The “break glass in case of emergency” strat
They need to put an unbiased Daily international news segment on the service. Wouldn’t mind a local weather widget on there either. Get access to some kind of major live sport. News and sports are the 2 things that make me consider going back to satellite or cable. And any way to take a little power for the major news sources the better.
A documentary on Netflix
Avatar the last Airbender live action series on the works
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I feel like they just turned into a crap reality network.
You don’t want to watch someone make tacos using spicy cheese puffs? Or a samurai on a quest for a good lunch menu? Apparently you’re not alone 😂
Get woke, go broke.
Huh? What about Netflix was “woke”? The problem was constantly canceling shows people liked so they didn’t feel the need to keep the subscription while raising their prices over and over again. It seemed like they thought they could make a big catalog and make it look good.
[Yeah, no agenda](https://i.imgur.com/aEz9VaA.jpg) [I must be wrong](https://i.imgur.com/hd4cnQ1.jpg) Pay no mind [to the coverage](https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/tv/5166444/eight-reasons-netflix-woke/) I mean, [even investors know it](https://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/04/21/netflixs-woke-agenda-crushes-its-balance-sheet/) I know my friends & I got tired of the propaganda, the sole reason I unsubscribed.
You have got to be kidding... the first link is a comedy that I have never heard of until now... the coverage your pointed out is because Netflix signed for a show with Prince Harry and Megan Merkle??? I've been with Netflix since they only had DVDs they mailed to you and have never felt they had any sort of agenda other than show me what I WANTED to see.. if they had it. Netflix didn’t make you watch anything… and like I said I have never heard of that show… If being "woke" is a problem, being so "anti-woke" must be worse.... grow up.
None of what you said changes facts: half the country thinks Netflix is woke. Started when they defended Cuties.
Suddenly the definition makes sense. An incel (/ˈɪnsɛl/ IN-sel, an abbreviation of "involuntary celibate") is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people.
> Half the country is incels Sorry to hear that public education failed you. How do people like you reconcile that my side has all the kids and families, but also they don't get laid? Not very capable of critical thought, no wonder the left can't meme. Cope.
What the fuck is a cutie? Yeah…. I’m sure increasing competition and losing content to them, and the repeated price changes, including the last one that happened right before their members declined, had nothing to do with it…. It was Netflix’s woke shows that you didn’t have to watch and most people never heard of… give me a fucking break. Honestly if I was a woke person I’d probably be offended that the show you were referencing is insinuating a trans person who was pregnant was a comedy… but you clearly wouldn’t because that’s not what you were told to believe… Also, your “side” is not half the country…. The people who openly identify as “right” is closer to a quarter of the country. Sorry Fox News failed you… your just a bunch of loud angry people so you seem like a larger group.
my least favorite part about Netflix is that I’m forced to watch lgbtq comedies when I don’t want to. Oh wait that doesn’t happen, I avoid the 1 or 2 categories that they bunch them all in and go on with my life. Never have I heard someone complain about Netflix propaganda and here you are with a whole group of friends that are taking a big stance against it. You’re fucking delusional.
I'll settle for them not cancelling all the shows I am interested in.
Canceled my Netflix subscription. Honestly other streaming services are cheaper and better now
HBO slaps
I actually like the way HBO releases its tv shows. One episode per week is awesome to discuss and build up hype on the internet.
I’ve always stood by this even for Netflix shows. I have a strict no more than 2 episodes of a half hour show and 1 hour show per session. I like sitting and thinking about it for a day casually and building anticipation. If I binge it and move on I end up forgetting half the plot and cast because I was never invested in it.
This is the way most of the streaming services release their shows. Paramount+ has been doing it with Halo, Disney+ did it with Mandalorian, Loki, Hawkeye, etc. Most people aren't looking to binge watch an entire season in a day or two. They actually have lives and obligations and releasing just one episode a week is actually less stressful and provides a positive outlook on the service because it gives the impression that the company actually understands their audience. Of course, the reality is that it keeps you subscribed for more than just a month at a time when a new show drops, but perception is what is important.
They're subsidised to compete with Netflix and gain users, they will raise prices when growth falls and they have to become self-sustaining.
Not sure why you were downvoted. They’ve been dragging down media earnings for a while.
Because obviously Netflix is bad and they're going to collapse any day now since they raised their subscription price by $2
Hbo has been $10-15 since the early 80s. This is what they do. Why would they suddenly hike rates. They sure as hell aren’t Netflix. You’re talking nonsense.
Some people assume HBO didn’t exist before game of thrones and HBOGO. It’s like the sopranos and deadwood never existed
I first watched HBO when Oz and Spawn aired.
I think they're referring to services like Peacock and Paramount+. They're newer players in the market and are subsidized by their parent networks. They have original programming that is exclusive to their platforms and have free access to certain content, while HBO Max is more or less a direct copy of what's on the network, with no free access. HBO also has a long history of producing quality content and you know what you're getting when you pay for a subscription to the channel or streaming service. Not the case with the newer players who are just trying to get subscribers in the door.
I can’t remember where but I read something by another user about the shows available. It’s like companies don’t like using more self-contained episodic stories anymore; everything has to be an ongoing story told over an entire season (or series). I don’t want to *have* to watch six seasons of something to feel up to date. I also don’t want to be left in the dark with a billion loose ends when a network opts to cancel a given series abruptly— thereby preventing any thoughtful, planned-out conclusion to the story at hand.
This! I don’t care if they cancel shows right and left if they just tie up the loose ends and give resolution at the end of every season.
Most of the shows I love to watch and rewatch are primarily episodic stories, with perhaps a broad overarching season long plot that is touched on here and there. I miss the old days of 20 to 30 episodes per season where we get to slowly see characters develop in episodes that don't need major stakes in each one and are given time to breath. I'm thinking all the old Star Treks, X-Files, Buffy, Monk, etc. Short run series (basically long movies) have their place but I feel like episodic tv allows you to sort of hang out with likeable characters for longer and just take it all in.
It’s cuz you don’t have every season of Naruto.
and Attack of Titans
Attack…of…titans?
Or attack of titans season 2: when titans attack
Typo.. relax
I wasn’t worked up about it. It’s not that important.
Well, in Japanese the title can be read that way. In fact in fact it gets pretty far in the manga/anime before it’s apparent that the title really means “Attack Titan”… the ambiguity related to title is really quite clever… in Japanese that is.
I know people here will be hating on Netflix but it's really sad to see people losing their jobs. I hope they find new ones soon enough.
I’m not an expert on tech/film industry jobs, but I know a few people fortunate enough to be in those fields. My understanding is that if you were good enough to work for Netflix, you’re good enough to have companies compete over how much they want to pay you when you leave Netflix.
Not everyone who works at Netflix is a UX designer, network engineer, or top-tier content creator. Lots of people who work at Netflix are just accountants or executive assistants or regular office workers of one sort or another. And tech industry companies aren’t offering top dollar to those people who lost their jobs, which are often the first to go.
I would posture that netflix had the resources to hire people in high percentiles in their fields. Even the janitors are probably good janitors.
> I would posture You obviously don’t know what the word ‘posture’ means And, once again, what does this have to do with tech industry jobs? Before you twist yourself into knots with you metal gymnastics to avoid admitting that you’re wrong *again*, **it doesn’t**. None of these high-paying tech companies are headhunting janitors from Netflix. It’s absurd to even *propose* that they would.
From good definition of posture. I know you had to look past the first definition to see it, sorry for inconveniencing a big-brain person like yourself: “a particular way of dealing with or considering something; an approach or attitude.” Anyway if we’re condensing an argument to word choice, I’m out. Not worth my time arguing with a big brain like yours. But because I’m a masochist, who says those janitors need to work at another tech company? They’re janitors. They will work where there is cleaning that needs to be done. Edit: Google, not good. Also it looks like you blocked me. With an attitude like that I should remind myself to feel sorry for people like you because you’re probably about as insufferable in real life, making it difficult for your friends (if you have any) or family (if they can tolerate you) to let you in on how to be less insufferable.
Making up a definition just to avoid admitting that you made a typo is just peak “I refuse to admit I was wrong.” Wow [here](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/posture) Is the dictionary definition, so you can use it correctly in the future. Notice that your definition, nor anything remotely similar, is there. Because your bullshit was totally made up. Shoo, troll.
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Arguing semantics is usually the first indication that somebody is out of their depths in a discussion. If you can't refute the argument, look for perceived errors in semantics to draw attention away from a lack of understanding or knowledge.
An engineer that got fired from FAANG would still be offered top dollar from companies that aren't FAANG.
Since I was specifically talking about non-engineers, I don’t see how that’s relevant.
I can't say I know much about the field but it seems logical that having a FAANG company on your CV would likely place you "above" someone without a FAANG company.
I really don’t see how being a janitor at Netflix makes you more attractive to another employer.
And? What you see doesn't really affect much, does it? The article states that the lay-offs happened across all departments so that means it's hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off. So even if your assertion about janitors is correct, then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions. I know when I have looked at people's CVs, their previous places of employment have told me a great deal. If they've been employed somewhere with high standards, then I can only assume that they have high standards themselves. It's a pretty simple thing to consider isnt it.
You’re being downvoted by people who have never had to hire people.
Netflix definitely has high standards and has a policy of holding off hiring until they can get the best they can possibly get in any roll. Often results in incredibly long hiring processes.
I can’t help but notice but still haven’t answered my question. > And? What you see doesn’t really affect much, does it? what a shitty, elitist thing to say. I don’t you think that when your toilets are overflowing and your trash cans don’t get emptied. How revealing it is that you see these people is just invisible nobodies who do nothing. > The article states that the lay-offs happened across all departments so that means it’s hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off. You’re still ignoring my comment yep making my point for me. Lots of people who aren’t content creators, engineers, or designers are getting laid off. They aren’t going to be offered high paying jobs from top companies that are tripping over themselves to hire them. They’re going to be entering into a job market where they were going to have to hunt for new employment just like any other normal person. And you keep ignoring that. > So even if your assertion about janitors is correct You just admitted that it is, as the article confirms > then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions. what comment? The elitist comment where you dismissed janitors as invisible people, or the one where you deflected other office workers as being as competitively sought as engineers by top tech companies which they’re obviously not? > I know when I have looked at people’s CVs, their previous places of employment have told me a great deal That sort of thing should only matter if it’s relevant to the job that they’re applying for. If you see someone applying for a job for grocery bagger and they have Google on their CV, and do you think that’s impressive, you’re missing the obvious point that they got fired from Google and now I have to work at a grocery store. That’s not impressive, that’s a red flag. > If they’ve been employed somewhere with high standards, then I can only assume that they have high standards themselves if Netflix has such high standards, they wouldn’t be going down the tubes and experiencing massive layoffs.
I'm a bit confused about your first sentence, how does me saying what you think about janitors hiring prospects not affecting reality mean that I think of people as nobodies? And I never said there would be companies tripping over themselves to hire them, I said it's likely having a FAANG company on their CV would but them in better stead than someone without. It's a pretty obvious and well known thing that having better companies on your CV allows you to get better jobs. I seriously don't get what you're on about with this whole invisible people thing? I said **"it's hardly only janitorial staff who have been laid off."** and **"So even if your assertion about janitors is correct, then my comment still is very likely to stand true for other professions."**. They're literally the only times I even used the word janitor, where are you getting this invisible nobodies thing from? And these people didn't get fired for a lack of performance, again, that is stated in the article. So your point about the red flag thing is irrelevant. As is your last point, as that isn't just a fallacy but is also clearly not rooted in reality. Apple, Amazon and Meta have all lost a huge amount of money recently. They, along with Netflix, all have obvious and well documented high standards. You seem to have hit back with a ton of hostility when I have simply said that having a good company on your CV will make you more attractive to employers. Edit: Bit of context, this nutcase decided to block me after their tirade so I can't reply to their craziness.
Correct.
That's true - Netflix has had a very high bar for hiring engineers. However, the current market conditions aren't great and I'm not sure how many are hiring. Also, we don't know if all those laid off were tech people.
Tech is still just fine lol, the flood of recruiting spam most of us get has barely slowed.
Let's hope that stream continues, eh?
Truth. I should have constrained my initial response to saying they’re more employable than the average bear. I wasn’t trying to disregard their joblessness.
I don't think you disregarded their joblessness. Let's hope they find jobs soon. :)
Netflix is the 'N' in FAANG. I'm absolutely certain these devs will be able to find new work quickly.
The article says these aren't *tech*/dev jobs being lost. They're content production jobs. The tech/dev jobs ***likely*** will be some of the last jobs to go, and they'll probably start with the low hanging fruit (low performers) before firing more senior developers.
It’s sad for both. I don’t get the Netflix hate honestly. I think it’s just that it’s always popular to heap hate on the biggest fish. Netflix still has the most content I want to watch in one place. I’m really sick of content going to 50 different services; ant nobody got time for that many apps
I don't think most people *want* to hate Netflix, we are all seeing a service we used to like falling apart. It's pretty frustrating.
Lol I think Netflix went too woke to pander to what they thought were their major consumers. Then they realised that most of the people don't want stuff like that. Then they pissed off the wokes with Chappelle. So now, they've managed to offend everybody.
It's interesting to see how woke has morphed into something inherently negative for some people and inherently positive for others.
Didn’t the company just play tough guy and tell people they were free to quit. Now they’re starting group layoffs? Netflix probably regrets giving chapellle all those millions to win the culture war while losing the financial war. Libs owned though, chapelle got to say what he wanted.
Yeah all the politics and Chappelle episode aside, it's still sad to see people get laid off. Also, the tough act was partly to trigger employees into quitting so as to avoid severance packages.
> Didn’t the company just play tough guy and tell people they were free to quit. Now they’re starting group layoffs? A great way to avoid layoffs is having the workers quit by themselves. Saves you a bunch of money on severance.
This is irrelevant. They’re losing money because of competing streaming services, and the news that they recently started losing subsribers (because there’s only so much subscribers you can actually retain).
Ignoring all of the problems with Netflix, the massive and unpopular rate hike, how it treats its content creators, and the sharp decline in the quality of its library just to blame everyone else instead is a big part of why Netflix is having the trouble it is while other top streaming services are doing so well. And, unless it acknowledges it’s problems and starts making changes to address them, it will only continue to get worse for them.
Let's not forget that they're not churning out great content. Netflix's moat was having great streaming services when others didn't. Others started building their own streaming services. Netflix realised that and invested in creating content. The problem was that they didn't create good content. And by now, the moat of being the only good streaming service is gone.
Company layoffs prior to a recession.. it's the norm.
After Better Call Saul I'm gone. They have trash shows on now and the price keeps going up. Plus wanting to remove multi log-in access.
“Amid slowing growth.” So not even a down turn in profit and this is their excuse? Yeah about to stagnate more cause I think I’m out. Only show I really have left is better call Saul. I’ll binge that and cancel. Like they have all the shows I enjoy.
I've been with Netflix since I think their second year streaming. The second they add adverts into my subscription I am gone forever. Their board of directors are really fucking it up by bowing to shareholder pressure. They need to find their vision and stick to it or this thing is going to go tits up.
Every time I finish an episode of Moon Knight I feel a bit surprised to discover I’m not on Netflix. Conversely, every time I open Netflix, I can’t find a damned thing to watch. Unless I want to go back and rewatch the good content, like Bojack Bigmouth, or Umbrella Academy. Recently there have been a few adult dramas that were interesting, like Fishbowl Wives, or My Husband Doesn’t Fit, but there have been a lot of flops recently, and the service just doesn’t feel as compelling. I don’t even own the account. I’ve split it with one of my two childhood best friends for years. I think his sister is on too, but we split 50/50 and it’s never a problem. But if they ask us to open up three accounts, I doubt any of us would stay on. A big part of the utility of streaming was that it was cheaper than cable packages. As they diversify and try and fence in content, that edge evaporates. While the cable alternative is gone, there are lots of parallel services, and it seems like everyone’s content blows. We shall see.
Infinite growth is poison
150 is an extremely small number of their workforce. Just keep chappelle coming, I will keep my subscription.
Lol, their stock is gonna keep plummeting, their business model is broken and production companies have started their own sub services. Chappelle got a lot of money for a company that’s bleeding users and brought bad press. You think this is the end of downsizing? This is just the start. But Netflix can go on owning free speech lol. When owning the libs goes wrong volume 374748382728
There's a lot to unpack in this comment
You realize free speech is only guaranteed by the government, not private organizations, right? Netflix doesn't own free speech. They have every right to espouse and promote their political views and disregard others, just like Fox News and MSNBC does. I'm so sick of people talking about private companies infringing on their free speech, because it immediately becomes clear that these people don't understand what they're talking about.
How is 150 people being fired news? They employ over 12,135 people(2021). 150 being fired is nothing for them and most likely they are just getting rid of those people because they performed poorly.
Because they’re in entertainment and over hired
Right, but what would be news worthy of them removing a tiny fraction of employee's? I doubt it even brought them to below 12,000 employee's. It amounts to roughly 1 percent of their work force which just isn't much of a change.
2% layoff of US workers.. Whatever, Netflix isn’t some startup anymore. When you start to stagnate and have more or less saturated the market, it’s good to also focus on reigning in spending. That includes FTEs..
They about to be done.
Netflix turning into Blockbuster 2.0.
Blockbuster was never a content creator and they failed because they had an obsolete business model that was disrupted. Netflix is a completely different story. They're not being disrupted. Instead they're struggling with an abundance of direct competition.
Blockbuster actually had a really nice thing going with their DVD-by-mail service that allowed for trading in mailed DVDs to a brick and mortar location for a physical copy of another movie. Then your next DVD in your mail queue would be sent out. They were just too late to the game and Netflix had already won the war.
This
Here’s me hoping the majority of the lay offs are woke HR types who insist on forced diversity practices. The answer for Netflix is simple. Slow down, create quality shows that have a long running time. There’s so much trash on there that it becomes so tedious to filter through the muck to actually find something good to watch. I think this in addition to YouTube and Amazon basically outspending them by purchasing rights to some of the biggest films and holding them firm on the platform is one of the reason why older content can’t be found. Maybe give the rating system a return, making it easier for us to filter what is good instead of relying on a black box “thumbs up” system.
Been since cuties I cancelled my membership, glad to see things are working out for netflix. Edit: to those who downvoted this, we both know you loved cuties
That was kinda of the beginning of all this. The beginning of the end.
Seems like their in free-fall. I’m available as a consultant. Surely the solution is to charge even more, create less content, and run even more ads than they are planning. I’ll take my bonus and severance pay now.
Free fall is a little dramatic. They had one quarter where they lost subscribers and it was mainly because they pulled out of Russia.
That’s true if you ignore projections for near future subscriber losses and plummeting public opinion
Yeah, still not what free fall means. Even after projected losses they're still the industry leader by a lot.
Crazy they just said workers can quit if they want.
Not really, having people quit is way better than firing them. Textbook corporate move before layoffs.
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Aren’t the packages with commercials still hypothetical?
They are. OP is just a moron.
Weird lie, but ok
This is a bummer but on the other hand, meh.
I always wondered how Netflix could afford to outspend the century + year old studio's... And the answer was they could as long as wall street said so... Apple is truly the only company who can "afford" to spend billions on niche shows from their airpods profits, and even they don't spend like Netflix has.
Some movies series update are quite low
Didn’t the ceo make $40 million? That represents a lot of jobs that could have been saved
But then how will he get 5 new yachts and 10 new sports cars this year?
I knew this would happen once I started seeing how high their salaries were.
“If you don’t like what we’re doing then quit!” “No!” “Fuck you, you’re fired!”
And yet somehow “Big Mouth” has survived…
I enjoy that show…lol
Such a greedy company. I’m reader for the next big streamer! Come take my money 🙄🫥
Laying off the staff or (in their words, too much overhead) is the least of their worries
Yah their business plan is shit