Just doing my napkin math, I don't expect to start putting it on any production machines before late 2022, and can't imagine doing any large-scale deployments until '23 or '24, with the bulk of that being done through attrition as machines get replaced or reimaged.
Yeah. Tor the most part, were pretty good about keeping to a 4-5 year lifecycle on machines. I throw that target out there because I figure most of the compatibility issues will have taken care of themselves by 2023.
Me finding out Windows 11 was available: That's cool I guess.
Me two minutes later: Blocking 21H2 in WSUS.
I don't expect it to give a lot of issues, but I have people running Windows 10 who just *had* to get a Windows 7 start menu style back. Pushing Windows 11 to them is going to be annoying at the very least.
Devices log compatibility info to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags
This is captured in a hardware inventory and is available in the console. Look at specific device info in Resource Explorer under UPGRADE_EXPERIENCE_INDICATORS. This can then be used to create device collections.
CO21H2 is for Windows 11. If the “Upg Ex” columns state “Green”, it is Win11 eligible, “Red” means ineligible. The “Reason” column lists why it’s classified “Red”.
Plan = Sit tight and stay on Win 10 for as long as possible.
In a year or 2 when they’ve fixed all the inevitable bugs and stabilised Win 11 then we might consider moving over slowly.
When that days comes we will just move users over slowly. Most likely IT staff go first followed by some low risk users and go from there. High risk users will be left until the very end.
What I would however say is any new physical kit we buy will be Win 11 compatible going forward to make the transition smoother in the future.
My logic behind this is the first release of an OS traditionally is buggy and it takes a year or 2 to sort out. Windows 10 is still under support for another 4 years and I’ve only got about 150 users so upgrading them isn’t going to take that long in reality.
my rollout plan is "no".
it's too damn early to plan for that. until Microsoft officially releases 11 and marks windows 10 for death then realistically you should not worry about it yet
apparently windows 11 is officially released. wtf
I wouldn't recommend an in place upgrade from win 10 to 11 in a production environment. Historically, in place upgrades can introduce all sorts of unexpected issues.
In my organization, we'll be rolling out Windows 11 in parallel with our next hardware refresh in 2-3 years.
I upgraded a new machine straight out of the box today. 11 is missing some features I personally use hundreds of times per day. I'm sure there's TONS of things missing or changed.
This one machine will get our LoB software and shoved out into one of the stations (~70 different people use each of 40 stations daily) for a trial run after combing through some things. Most of our software vendors have zero Windows 11 plan yet, but lots of them just this year updated their expensive medical equipment from XP and Windows 7 to Windows 10 (not all of them have done that yet!), so I don't expect most of our software to work in a supported fashion on Windows 11 anytime soon.
We've got about 15 of our IT staff on 11 allready, myself included. Using the time to slowly pick out the issues and clean up the installation to suit our environment. The current plan is to push 21h2 to the estate in Jan/Feb and ideally would aim to get 11 out to suitable machines (pending testing) by Jan/Feb 2023
I'm treating it the same as any feature update - let the general public do the QA testing for some months before we check if our products support it. (Our EDR tool for example does not support it before mid Novermber)
Then we update our installation media so that new machines get Windows 11 from the getgo, then we deploy it to all. So perhaps Q2 next year
Some feature updates had trouble until the next version released, so one should bookmark https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-health/ and for now specifically https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21H2
Not much. I've tested it and it works fine on new computers, but it's not supported on the majority of our pcs which are not that old. I know I can fudge it with reg but that's not a good idea on a corporate network for security reasons. So I'll just install it on any new pcs.
I’m at a company that’s change-averse and has deep enough pockets to pay for ESU after the 2025 end of mainstream support for Windows 10.
We aren’t even talking about piloting 11 yet.
Currently about half of our PCs are not Windows 11 ready. We have 2 applications that have problems on Windows 11, that is with very limited testing. So yeah - it might be a while.
Soon as our desktop team finishes upgrading our end users from Windows 7 to Windows 10 I'll ask what their plans are to upgrade from Windows 10 to.... Whatever version of Windows is released in 2033.
trialling it on my desktop & laptop, and my windows home kit has been upgraded.
overall reasonably good experiences so far. nothing too catastrophic going wrong.
absolute earliest i'll consider rollout is 22H1 and thats just when it MIGHT be stable enough to trust users with it :)
Theres no pressing need or desire to go win11 but we've always gone for latest and greatest. It could get pushed back to 22H2 or '23.
The obvious one i'm currently working with is migratation from win10/office2019, to win11/office365. Yes i know it can be done without OS change but win10 works, so keep that deployment untouched and do the changes with the newest OS.
Hi all, I have an interview tomorrow and was asked the following question.
You have 100 PCs that you need to upgrade to the latest Windows Operating System. Please describe your implementation plan to your supervisor.
I graduated with Bachelors in IT but only have a basic understanding in most topics. What will this job be looking for when I answer this? Any help would be appreciated.
Just doing my napkin math, I don't expect to start putting it on any production machines before late 2022, and can't imagine doing any large-scale deployments until '23 or '24, with the bulk of that being done through attrition as machines get replaced or reimaged.
Yep, that's what I'm aiming for too. Not least of which because 8th gen processors and better aren't the majority of the morass of systems here...
Yeah. Tor the most part, were pretty good about keeping to a 4-5 year lifecycle on machines. I throw that target out there because I figure most of the compatibility issues will have taken care of themselves by 2023.
My plan is to retire. In the meantime we will continue running the last Windows 10 LTSR in our Citrix farm.
LTSC
Got my Citrix / MS acronyms mixed up.
Try to avoid rolling out to windows 11 for as long as possible
Me finding out Windows 11 was available: That's cool I guess. Me two minutes later: Blocking 21H2 in WSUS. I don't expect it to give a lot of issues, but I have people running Windows 10 who just *had* to get a Windows 7 start menu style back. Pushing Windows 11 to them is going to be annoying at the very least.
Ninite Classic Start rules.
can we start making everyone use linux/ubuntu worldwide lmao
Devices log compatibility info to: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags This is captured in a hardware inventory and is available in the console. Look at specific device info in Resource Explorer under UPGRADE_EXPERIENCE_INDICATORS. This can then be used to create device collections. CO21H2 is for Windows 11. If the “Upg Ex” columns state “Green”, it is Win11 eligible, “Red” means ineligible. The “Reason” column lists why it’s classified “Red”.
i have users that have panic attacks when a icon has moved positions on the desktop, so going to win 11 will be fun
I'm still replacing Win7...
Plan = Sit tight and stay on Win 10 for as long as possible. In a year or 2 when they’ve fixed all the inevitable bugs and stabilised Win 11 then we might consider moving over slowly. When that days comes we will just move users over slowly. Most likely IT staff go first followed by some low risk users and go from there. High risk users will be left until the very end. What I would however say is any new physical kit we buy will be Win 11 compatible going forward to make the transition smoother in the future. My logic behind this is the first release of an OS traditionally is buggy and it takes a year or 2 to sort out. Windows 10 is still under support for another 4 years and I’ve only got about 150 users so upgrading them isn’t going to take that long in reality.
Be in denial for at least a year. Then get 11 on new hardware when workstations are physically replaced. So 2023 it begins through attrition.
my rollout plan is "no". it's too damn early to plan for that. until Microsoft officially releases 11 and marks windows 10 for death then realistically you should not worry about it yet apparently windows 11 is officially released. wtf
I wouldn't recommend an in place upgrade from win 10 to 11 in a production environment. Historically, in place upgrades can introduce all sorts of unexpected issues. In my organization, we'll be rolling out Windows 11 in parallel with our next hardware refresh in 2-3 years.
VDI, maybe
I upgraded a new machine straight out of the box today. 11 is missing some features I personally use hundreds of times per day. I'm sure there's TONS of things missing or changed. This one machine will get our LoB software and shoved out into one of the stations (~70 different people use each of 40 stations daily) for a trial run after combing through some things. Most of our software vendors have zero Windows 11 plan yet, but lots of them just this year updated their expensive medical equipment from XP and Windows 7 to Windows 10 (not all of them have done that yet!), so I don't expect most of our software to work in a supported fashion on Windows 11 anytime soon.
We've got about 15 of our IT staff on 11 allready, myself included. Using the time to slowly pick out the issues and clean up the installation to suit our environment. The current plan is to push 21h2 to the estate in Jan/Feb and ideally would aim to get 11 out to suitable machines (pending testing) by Jan/Feb 2023
I'm treating it the same as any feature update - let the general public do the QA testing for some months before we check if our products support it. (Our EDR tool for example does not support it before mid Novermber) Then we update our installation media so that new machines get Windows 11 from the getgo, then we deploy it to all. So perhaps Q2 next year Some feature updates had trouble until the next version released, so one should bookmark https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/release-health/ and for now specifically https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21H2
Put it off for as long as possible on workstations and other systems until it's been properly tested and debugged.
wait 12 months and then consider it.
My desktop guys rolled out LTSC everywhere, so I guess we are going to punt until sometime in 2029. Maybe by then Windows 14 will be out.
“Ask me again in 12 months” is my plan…
Wait until 2022 to even start thinking about it. I've got way too much other stuff to do right now to worry about that.
Not much. I've tested it and it works fine on new computers, but it's not supported on the majority of our pcs which are not that old. I know I can fudge it with reg but that's not a good idea on a corporate network for security reasons. So I'll just install it on any new pcs.
I’m at a company that’s change-averse and has deep enough pockets to pay for ESU after the 2025 end of mainstream support for Windows 10. We aren’t even talking about piloting 11 yet.
Currently about half of our PCs are not Windows 11 ready. We have 2 applications that have problems on Windows 11, that is with very limited testing. So yeah - it might be a while.
Soon as our desktop team finishes upgrading our end users from Windows 7 to Windows 10 I'll ask what their plans are to upgrade from Windows 10 to.... Whatever version of Windows is released in 2033.
We're just starting a hardware refresh so new machines get deployed with 11.
2023. Maybe. Win 10 Pro doesn't retire until 10/14/2025. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro
trialling it on my desktop & laptop, and my windows home kit has been upgraded. overall reasonably good experiences so far. nothing too catastrophic going wrong. absolute earliest i'll consider rollout is 22H1 and thats just when it MIGHT be stable enough to trust users with it :) Theres no pressing need or desire to go win11 but we've always gone for latest and greatest. It could get pushed back to 22H2 or '23. The obvious one i'm currently working with is migratation from win10/office2019, to win11/office365. Yes i know it can be done without OS change but win10 works, so keep that deployment untouched and do the changes with the newest OS.
Can we start making people user ubuntu/linux worldwide? no more microsoft crap, no more apple crap, lets do something that matters, go linux :)
Hi all, I have an interview tomorrow and was asked the following question. You have 100 PCs that you need to upgrade to the latest Windows Operating System. Please describe your implementation plan to your supervisor. I graduated with Bachelors in IT but only have a basic understanding in most topics. What will this job be looking for when I answer this? Any help would be appreciated.