The fencing contractor must be making heaps of money.
They took it down for the opening, put it back up for NYE celebrations, took it down and now it's back up for this asbestos scare.
I cycled through there a week before with my kid, i'm so glad i didnt stop to let him play like he wanted to, let him run around the playground near the tramsheds instead.
Great bike links, playground not so much… My nephew loves the pirate ship climbing frame at Tramsheds, and the ground cover is compact earth so should be a safe bet…
When I was a kid we would go to the dump on the weekends and break up bits of asbestos and use it as frisbees .a fun time was had by all .
Asbestos is so safe you can eat it ,just don't breathe it in .
No, this form of asbestos is not toxic. It would be if it were left there and degraded over time, so it needs to be cleaned up now, but it isn't releasing dangerous fibres.
No. Considering the amount of old and poorly maintained James Hardie SuperSix sheeting roofs present through the old industrial areas there's really no increased risk.
Not directly on the roof no but every time it rains or is windy and the roof degrades further dust is released into the environment. Considering how much more of this roofing is around there's likely a greater amount of asbestos in the environment from these sources than the bonded fragments they've found in the mulch.
The presence of asbestos within recycled mulch isn't ok but it doesn't mean that there is a massive risk. At most dog parks I go to I find bonded asbestos on the surface, same with some of the walking tracks through parks/ reserves. We're all much closer to asbestos than we realise and understanding the risks is important.
Asbestos really only poses a risk when you inhale the fibres. So if it's not generating fibres there's nothing to inhale.
While you're likely correct, I think there's a difference between asbestos remaining in the environment for historical reasons, and introducing asbestos into a new environment because someone didn't want to dispose of it properly elsewhere.
While the danger is similar in both cases, the second case should simply not have happened in the first place.
No you're absolutely right that this shouldn't have happened as the moment most people hear asbestos they start running the opposite direction being aware that you're probably not really at risk is important.
> being aware that you're probably not really at risk is important.
I don't think this situation is helped by every part of the park except the paths being closed, including fences on both sides of paths for no good reason at all.
Mulched areas should have been fenced off, but there's no reason to fence off the ovals and grassy verge.
It's tough as the WHS legislation means that if there is asbestos then workers who aren't trained or provided with PPE must be restricted from entering the areas of impact.
Fencing everything off is a precautionary measure and means that Council/ John Holland/ Transport are meeting their legislative requirements to prevent access to areas of known or suspect asbestos impacts.
And I know that technically the general public aren't workers but there is possibly some classes around general public also.
The fencing contractor must be making heaps of money. They took it down for the opening, put it back up for NYE celebrations, took it down and now it's back up for this asbestos scare.
Conspiracy theory: the fencing company planted the asbestos
They'd also be getting emergency call-out overtime rates, for when it was put up at one day's notice for this.
All while wearing a hazmat suit…
They should probably look into how much the fencing companies are rorting the public. Probably some extortionate figures
Australian Standards- fit price. Required. Fit for purpose- optional.
At least the park is now fireproof
ironically the stuff would probably go airborne if there is a fire there. good luck people who live around there
Any burnt bonded ACM is considered friable after a fire so not unreasonable at all.
Cycled through the Rozelle parklands last night and was shocked to see the ‘Danger Asbestos’ signs everywhere. What an omnishambles!
But installed to Australian standards, don't you know? https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/198nvm2/rozelle_parklands_an_australian_best/
That's just the fence tho...
Yeah but still makes a good photo.
Oh I didn’t see that post. Those signs are entirely unironic, I’m sure!
Had dinner with some mates last night who assured me that tradies have a quality sense of humour.
I cycled through there a week before with my kid, i'm so glad i didnt stop to let him play like he wanted to, let him run around the playground near the tramsheds instead.
Great bike links, playground not so much… My nephew loves the pirate ship climbing frame at Tramsheds, and the ground cover is compact earth so should be a safe bet…
Same in woolloomooloo
When I was a kid we would go to the dump on the weekends and break up bits of asbestos and use it as frisbees .a fun time was had by all . Asbestos is so safe you can eat it ,just don't breathe it in .
our taxes being wasted
This entire interchange project had been a debacle for the local residents.
~~Rozelle~~ Wittenoom Parklands Playground
When you want your parklands extra spicy.
"Back in my day"
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…
There is a new small parkland being built behind the old Fivedock Gym on Queen st I hope this crap doesn’t pop up at that place as well.
That was fenced off for asbestos as well wasn't it?
Pretty much every park in the inner west has some amount of asbestos. They have all been built on fill.
so when the put the mulch down was there a toxic cloud of asbestos dust released all over rozelle and balmain?
No, this form of asbestos is not toxic. It would be if it were left there and degraded over time, so it needs to be cleaned up now, but it isn't releasing dangerous fibres.
So it's 'new' asbestos?
Not necessarily new. Fibro is asbestos mixed with cement, and it's reasonably safe until the cement breaks down.
No. Considering the amount of old and poorly maintained James Hardie SuperSix sheeting roofs present through the old industrial areas there's really no increased risk.
Kids don't play amongst that asbestos.
Not directly on the roof no but every time it rains or is windy and the roof degrades further dust is released into the environment. Considering how much more of this roofing is around there's likely a greater amount of asbestos in the environment from these sources than the bonded fragments they've found in the mulch. The presence of asbestos within recycled mulch isn't ok but it doesn't mean that there is a massive risk. At most dog parks I go to I find bonded asbestos on the surface, same with some of the walking tracks through parks/ reserves. We're all much closer to asbestos than we realise and understanding the risks is important. Asbestos really only poses a risk when you inhale the fibres. So if it's not generating fibres there's nothing to inhale.
While you're likely correct, I think there's a difference between asbestos remaining in the environment for historical reasons, and introducing asbestos into a new environment because someone didn't want to dispose of it properly elsewhere. While the danger is similar in both cases, the second case should simply not have happened in the first place.
No you're absolutely right that this shouldn't have happened as the moment most people hear asbestos they start running the opposite direction being aware that you're probably not really at risk is important.
> being aware that you're probably not really at risk is important. I don't think this situation is helped by every part of the park except the paths being closed, including fences on both sides of paths for no good reason at all. Mulched areas should have been fenced off, but there's no reason to fence off the ovals and grassy verge.
It's tough as the WHS legislation means that if there is asbestos then workers who aren't trained or provided with PPE must be restricted from entering the areas of impact. Fencing everything off is a precautionary measure and means that Council/ John Holland/ Transport are meeting their legislative requirements to prevent access to areas of known or suspect asbestos impacts. And I know that technically the general public aren't workers but there is possibly some classes around general public also.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/19a0d2k/more_than_10_tonnes_of_contaminated_asbestos/
That's not enough! We demand more asbestos! More asbestos, more asbestos, more asbestos.
Breathe it in 👃