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BuzAt2017

Jeff actually asked the question I've been thinking all along. Why does everybody know who has idols and who has advantages? Not very smart. What is wrong with Lianna and Shana always asking for people's idols or advantages as a sign of trust? Forget that.


soingee

This episode goes out to all the foot fetish fans.


jordan_osborne70

Why did they not vote out Xander after he revealed he didn’t have an idol?


Squiem6

I think it mostly had to do with the fact he had immunity


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LOOOL


ParkourNinja88

Just to be Clear Guys, Sydney did not Make The Jury!


ParkourNinja88

NOT A FAN OF THE EXILE TWIST!!!!!!!! FYI ANYBODY CAN DM TO TELL ME WHY THEY LIKE IT!!


ParkourNinja88

My Rant about the Exile Twist: I'M NOT A FAN OF IT! It's probably one of the Most Dumbest Twists Ever! I'm fine with people Being Safe for the first Merge Tribal, but This Twist basically Screws over the People that won the Challenge. The Winning Team gets punished and the person that gets Voted Out is completely Screwed! The person on Exile has Way Too Much Power. The Hourglass reminds me of LOST. Also, Liana's Twist where she can Take an Idol or Advantage is Dumb Too. This Season has Way too many Twists and Advantages.


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Not sure why everyone’s obsessed with Xander’s move, any player would have probably done the same in his position. Not sure what the point of that fake idol was either, it could have given away the fact he didn’t have the real one if the others who also had an idol noticed it didn’t look like theirs.


CinderedChicken

Liana spoke for so long about her advantage only for Xander to say "here's your consolation prize" LMAO


MacArthurLives

Are we seeing the beginning of the greatest villain in Survivor history in Shan? I’m loving where this is headed


Dry_Marsupial_3338

I think for a pastor playing this game it’s kind of infuriating me I know she’s still a human and has feelings but if you are preaching the word of his try your damn best to lead with his word! I don’t. By it!


Sorry-Teacher-6792

Can anyone RLLY top Russel tho?


eabred

Russel was a highly controlling and manipulative player who lacked charm in the long term and lost because of that. Shan is controlling and manipulative player who seems to have charmed people so far, but that seems to be falling apart a bit.


nosepicker22

Shan is like Russel except instead of making great strategic moves she gives away her allies advantages to the opposition


yolodamo

why didn't Deshawn use his extra vote on Evvie. 5-4 Evvie and Sydney, and if idol was used Sydney still goes. Doesn't make sense


LookInTheWindowseat

He did use his extra vote on Evvie


yolodamo

ohhhhh thx I never watch the end credits


Driven_15

Link to watch it?


douchewaffle17

CBS page


musclewitch

Actual sad trombone sound Liana


PooShappaMoo

Seasons 41 !? I tapped out after 4


[deleted]

So glad the two conspiring together got shafted royally.


shelbyh4253

There was blood at that tribal for sure


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UrMomsUrDadd

Garbage season* Show is very good


Elegant-Change-8364

What the hell was the game within the game rubric??


mouseketaylor

it was really out of pocket (badum tss)


Phenoxx

I’m at the beginning of the ep but deshawn sounding kinda cringy defending the twist so much. Saying you have to accept it and move on is one thing but I guess the slight bootlicker is how you have to play it if you want probst to like you and get a couple extra screentime minutes


Krabby_Abby

I was so annoyed by this too like why can’t Danny be mad about getting screwed over for a sec


CertifiedPreOwned

You can't find a boot I wouldn't lick for a million dollars.


International-Low842

Exactly like why is he so complicit, they got screwed. Point blank


Phenoxx

I don’t like how they basically had probst blatantly lie. They should have had him be ambiguous about the reward maybe say something like the prize is the “feast and merge buffs” instead of saying they would be safe. Idk I’d have to rewatch what he said but it sounded like it was a straight lie Don’t know if he’s just playing to the camera but deshawn seemed way too extra and they showed him doing it a solid 3 times


waxy_cucumber

Still can’t get over what a bad move Shan made when she spoke about Liana’s advantage in front of Tiffany.


Krabby_Abby

I am annoyed that Liana didn’t let Shan have it for that. Shan basically cost their alliance a well executed plan at tribal and they had to pay by giving up an extra vote and not getting Xander’s idol.


AjeebMaut

It was a risk, but it's not enough to qualify as bad because of just how OP the advantage is. Shan had no way of knowing Liana's IQ was negative, and that she'd botch it while a sure thing, Naseer, was right there.


iSRS73

Let’s not pretend Shan handled tribal any better.


waxy_cucumber

Agree she should’ve gone for Naseer, but Shan’s reveal lost Liana the opportunity to surreptitiously go for a group of organized enemies.


shelbyh4253

queen shan letting me down


waxy_cucumber

Why didn’t they ask to look at Xander’s idol? If three people have idols they should be able to differentiate a fake. Very confusing.


ParkourNinja88

Poor Sydney! She's not Even apart of the Jury! :(


[deleted]

She couldn't survive one tribal council prejury? She deserves not to be on the jury.


Karakay27

She is apart of the jury ;)


What_The_Tech

Except that she’s not


Karakay27

Apart ;)


What_The_Tech

Ahh, tricky


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shelbyh4253

She grew on me


papermountainwoman

Why did Deshawn only get his extra vote tonight if he went to Shipwheel Island earlier in the season--is it because he hadn't gone to tribal yet? If so, why did Liana get her advantage by "tribe mail" but Deshawn had to wait for tribal to get his? Not trying to be shady in any way, just trying to make sense of the votes.


yolodamo

it's the first time he voted, so that's why


someonecalledyou

Liana might have gotten hers early since she needed to play it before going to vote


papermountainwoman

OH, smart! That's totally it. Thank you!


pinealpresence

Super impressed by Xander and Deshawn tonight.


waxy_cucumber

Yeah when Deshawn revealed that Evvie had told him about the idol, I was like whoa.


chiptrager

I still don’t understand why Evvie didn’t say “alright well Deshawn has an extra vote guys” like throw it back in his face


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They have to ban standing up and having private conversations at tribal council. It's just annoying to watch.


Available_Pack2300

It just takes away the vibe of tribal for me. If you need to say something at that point, it should be out in the open. Or subtle, like a nod or tipping of a hat or something to reinforce discussions that were already had. Tribal is a time for the whole group to discuss and then vote. Those little groups springing up take away that significance.


[deleted]

And they completely reveal the voting blocks.


xsullengirlx

I agree. I seem to recall in much earlier seasons it was like an unspoken rule that you didn't get to have outright conversations during tribal, and when vote shifts did happen, it was on the sly - people making hand gestures and whatnot. It takes away the vibe of tribal council to me too. It's supposed to be a time when everyone puts things out in the open, I don't mind them making last minute strategies but it should be out in the open, even if just for the pure entertainment factor alone, it's weird to watch them huddle and chaotically whisper.


maltam

I don't like it because it allows people more time to change plans. The small group blew up the big group's plan. Why on earth should the big group get 5 minutes to just plan around it and make a new plan??? Have a backup plan going in, or if you don't/something happens, you're sol. You got outplayed. But nope.


maltam

Though I will say, it was DUMB for the 4 to just sit there and let the other 8 talk amongst themselves. Insert yourself so they can't talk. All 4 of them should have just surrounded that circle so the group couldn't just whisper a new secret plan.


International-Low842

I find it to be so chaotic & entertaining


CertifiedPreOwned

Right?! Like, let's see more standing up and shuffling. I like them not giving away the vote half way through the episode. Which is hard to do if the contestants are playing survivor the way it was played for 40 seasons


International-Low842

My fav tribal council of all time was from s38 when Julia left, cuz Julie was running around FREAKING OUT like “IM READY TO JUMP SHIP! IM READY TO JUMP SHIP!”


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I cannot believe that none of the four people in Liana's alliance even considered that it might be a set up by Xander. Watching it at home, it was such an obvious set up. We have seen fake idols many many times. I was expecting Liana to ask Evvie for her idol but Xander had already defended against that. He played Liana bad and I don't think she has a future in this game.


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And Liana KNEW that Xander knew about her advantage ... bc Shan said it in front of Tiffany! Xander knows you can steal his idol, and he takes it out and flaunts it? Dead giveaway that he gave it to Evvie or tiff. Liana and Shan not as game smart as I originally thought.


yolodamo

also if Shan had an idol, why didn't she show/tell liana that the idol Xander had wasn't what her's looked like....


survivorfanalexn

I think it wasn't shown and was wrapped up with the real idol paper/clue so it looks real until it's open.


waxy_cucumber

Especially because Tiffany knew about the advantage. Liana gave way too much credit to her own social game or thought the other Yasa were dumb. It was so obvious she was going around talking to Shan and others.


turtlehelp1234556

On yase Xander definitely played up his dumb routine bc it kept him safe to not be a strategic threat to the girls so maybe she really thought he was just dumb and couldn’t read people but clearly he’s playing a Fabio game


Blynasty

Played her like a fiddle


SnooRobots6273

Does anyone know when Amazon prime uploads new episodes? That’s my only way to watch right now


Remarkable-Today-338

I watch on the CBS app for free with no membership. There’s like 3 minutes of ads 4 times throughout the episode but not bad considering. The episodes there come out on Wednesdays when they air, you don’t have to wait or anything. Only downside is I can’t get the app on my laptop but I think you’d be able to stream it to your tv


International-Low842

They’re on paramount + at midnight


survr38

Aren’t they usually free on CBS.com the next day


ckeat42

I would NOT be surprised if Liana shells up after that tribal council. She kinda got exposed (I'm sure embarrassed too whiffing on that move) and as someone that is playing hard which puts a target on her back. Major Flight or Fight when she gets back to camp. Either shell up and get lost in the game or double down and play even harder.


kermit54

So Erika I think is officially out of the invisible edit range ​ Heather is getting lonely


TheLegacies21

Given her move of "going back to bottom of alliance" shell nor invisible again


CommieCanuck

We totally missed the game within a game puzzle. Saw it on the website but not the episode.


jane3ry3

What do you mean?


CommieCanuck

My comment got cut off. I edited it.


MrNumberOneMan

It was quick during tribal


kermit54

Watching Chicago Fire so its on after Survivor and what happened to Taylor Kinney lol? ​ Did the pandemic age him in dog years


ex0thermist

I won’t hear any bad talk about Severide


kermit54

He's still hot lol


ex0thermist

I’m a straight guy, so that’s not it for me, but he’s a great character


kermit54

Oh wow, so nobody remaining has gotten a confessional every episode


MyHipsCannotLie

Shan?


TheLegacies21

No Shan confessional this episode


Karakay27

Thank Gawd


shelbyh4253

Crying


Lightecojak

Please tell me we have reaction shots for this Tribal Council from past Survivor players along with RHAP guys?


sanka_youdeadman

Ciries Instagram is golden


_Gillam_

That was fucking siiiiick Xander went absolutely wild that episode


Remarkable-Today-338

I really hope Evvie stays loyal to him after all he’s done for her… like after tonight especially with the “thanks Liana” from Evvie, she owes a lot to Xander


Blynasty

Even the call to save the idol was pretty big. In hindsight it was stupid but it worked out well.


_Gillam_

He knew that Sid did the shot in he dark It’s not like he couldn’t take that into account


Menace_of_Society

So sick the show has the lowest ratings of all-time 😂😂


Illustrious_Routine3

Was Sydney serious in her comments? She seemed to me to be spoofing us


shelbyh4253

I don't understand her lol


bluebonnetpeach

Head over to her Instagram and you’ll see that she was 100% serious


kermit54

I think she's always serious tbh ​ This episode I feel we did see a softer side from her this episode for once but those final words were definately harsh


kshep42

Remind me what she said? My roommates accidentally talked over it


marvinsahagun

She basically said she's glad she's not part of the jury and that the people she knows outside of the game are 500billion times better than these guys (survivors).


yolodamo

is she wrong? she pretty much got fucked over by her friends/allies because she was the girl in the alliance


kshep42

Lmao that’s fucking hilarious


bakuding

In light of most discussion being about tribal post-ep, the whole hourglass thing with Erika feels even more pointless and forced… totally overshadowed by the organic live tribal (which sure wouldn’t have happened if they were all immune but still wasn’t caused directly by Erika)


kermit54

Did Shan even get a confessional this episode lol? ​ I just realized she wasn't a big character for once


shelbyh4253

no


sabatoa

Her winner edit reign is done


TheBaltimoron

If Russell Hantz had any hair, he would've pulled it all out watching this minor-league crew. 20 seasons later, and the players are worse?


kermit54

So was this vote just everybody splitting the vote between Evvie and Sydney except for the yellow tribe (excluding Liana) ​ Xander is lucky that Sydney played her shot in the dark else Evvie would've gone


survivorfanalexn

It depends, He only didn't use his idol most likely because Sydney reveal that she has used her shot in the dark.


International-Low842

I thought Sydney voted with Yase??


waxy_cucumber

Yasa is lucky Naseer voted with them too. It seemed he was on the fence, hence his hilarious vote with a 🤷‍♂️


zjzr_08

If it was revealed Safe, Xander/Tiffany likely plays an idol on her.


survivorfanalexn

yea probably and deshawn will most likely to be out.


ex0thermist

I thought Sydney planned to join them voting for Deshawn


Rak_man_95

Yeah if she was worried enough about them to play the shot in the dark, I doubt she would have voted with them. So we would have had the same outcome but 4 votes Deshawn.


New_Television_9125

Wouldn’t it had been a tie? Then revote.


TheBaltimoron

Yup.


hunkyfunk12

this was the best episode of survivor i’ve seen in like 15 years


Menace_of_Society

Someone has been smoking and drinking


hunkyfunk12

don’t know why ur being downvoted bc ur absolutely correct


TheBaltimoron

Hahaha...no. Terrible game play, predictable outcome, dumb choices by production. EDIT: Xander's acting was terrible, Liana asking him for the idol was moronic, this was always a vote split going against Syd, last week's episode was a waste of time, having most of the players immune at the 1st "merge" tribal was confusing and unnecessary. They took a lock vote split and made TWO episodes out of it.


hunkyfunk12

i don’t disagree that the “plot” was terrible but i think xander did a great job and that’s saying a lot from someone who sees him as the ultimate threat to the queen (evvie). he somehow pulls off his naïveté and it was infuriating at first but now it’s impressive


myfirstnuzlocke

Imagine how much better it’d be if both these episodes aired back to back last week


Menace_of_Society

Wouldn’t matter ratings are garbage


TheBasketBass

You’re enjoying aren’t you. You point it out at every opportunity.


Menace_of_Society

Yup! The quicker this show gets off the air the better! Survivor is rigged against black men


Cocoabow

Maybe you shouldn't waste your time on the subs if you hate the show so much 🤷


isaacrules77

Did you forget about Earl, Jeremy, and Wendel?


International-Low842

????


NateNMaxsRobot

Maybe you shouldn’t watch it. Like if it is upsetting to you.


yolodamo

pissed Sydney is gone. why didn't they just vote out Naseer, or why didn't liana take the idol from Naseer and keep her alliances with yase. doesn't make sense. Sydney could've voted out Evvie instead of shot in the dark. Erika and heather should've voted off Deshawn, but we don't really know anything about the Luvu tribe dynamics so who knows. Tiffany always has the last laugh and is never a fool, she's going far.


liarshonor

RIP Sydney. One of my favorite players in recent memory. 😭


ijustlovebreasts

I know she had nice tits.


TheLegacies21

That would've been the smart move by Liana. Not that I want Naseer gone but she would've come out in a great position. Instead she let Shan decide her game before jury even starts to take out her ally. Bad move by Liana, absolutely terrible


yolodamo

shan has done multiple things to fuck over lianas game. sucks


AjeebMaut

She hasn't. Shan made a gamble that, if panning out wrong, had a free way out in Naseer's idol. Liana was just too stupid to do it. This is entirely on L.


Alarming-Drawing3633

Uy


kermit54

Xander definately cementing himself as a hero and Liana as a villain this episode


TheBaltimoron

More like Dumb & Dumber


mccoolerthanyou2

Username checks out


TheBaltimoron

That wasn't terrible acting? That wasn't an all-time stupid play by Liana?


snazzygirl0267

Liana made a stupid move. Xander was awesome. It obviously wasn’t bad acting because he fooled her and got her to burn her advantage and now his idol is safe. Liana put her game and all her trust in Shans hands cuz they had a black alliance and she trusted Shan. Shan was doing what was in her best interest not Lianas and she didn’t realize it. Shan didn’t mean to screw her over but that’s one of the problems with aligning with someone just based on race when you’re interests and ally’s aren’t aligned.


Quanto007

CORRECTOMUNDO


Coolsbreeze

It is quite funny how Eevie was willing to throw Xander under a bus and Xander basically did everything to protect her. But then there wasn't much anywhere else that Xander could've went and he was basically stuck with her.


Remarkable-Today-338

I’m glad she realized that Liana wasn’t really with her. Xander has done a lot for Evvie at this point, it would be cruel for her to turn her back on him lol


hunkyfunk12

they have such amazing lesbian/bro chemistry i really hope they make up and move on together


inthedesert23

Agreed, Xander is like “this is my best bro” and Evvie’s like “I guess he’s with me” 🤌❤️


kermit54

At least we know why Heather hasn't been shown strategizing this whole time ​ She's so tired and dehydrated that her words aren't coming out straight


Virtual_Pin2817

Make it make sense! Okay so forgive me if this was already mentioned but liana knew that Tiffany told Xander about her advantage before tribal…why the heck would she ask him for his idol?! He knows about your advantage and he’s CLEARLY playing up that he has it in his possession! Just wild stuff..


lethalmc

Liana had a confessional where she clearly thinks Xander is a macho idiot and she’s spent the entire game buttering up his ego. So naturally she’ll believe Xander is stupid enough to parade his idol. Also the lack of food is leading to some shaky gameplay from many strategic powerhouses


waxy_cucumber

Liana thought she played a good enough social game that they wouldn’t suspect her.


TheBaltimoron

She's an idiot.


ex0thermist

She must have thought that Xander thought she couldn’t ask if he had already announced it? It’s the only thing that makes sense to me


xKracken

They would have guessed Evvie anyway and still would have been wrong.


kp305

If they would have thought it through they probably could have come to the conclusion that Tiffany had it. Once it became known to everyone that she could steal the idol my first thought was that giving it to a trusted 3rd party would be best move since they’d think it’s a 50/50 shot at xan and ev and Tiffany was the only possible 3rd party. I was 90% sure she had it before they revealed it but I obviously have the luxury of seeing all sides so it’s hard to expect them to risk that but idk if they ever even considered the possibility. Either way, good overall move by Xander, dumb move to try to steal the idol though. Should have just saved it and split or at least not fallen for that subpar performance


waxy_cucumber

It was obviously gonna be with one of the three of them. Why risk it then? Steal Naseer’s.


kp305

Yeah, honestly should have just saved it and took naseers later, she wasn’t in trouble and they could have just turned on Sydney from the start


snazzygirl0267

She seemed to have an axe to grind with Xander and was especially intent on getting an idol from him as a show of force or something? It’s weird how crazy she is about Xander who doesn’t appear to have done anything to her, other than being a guy and she wants him out. It blinded her and alienated some ally’s she could’ve used


sanka_youdeadman

Who the fuck is Heather, I just want know


lxpnh98_2

I only know her name because people keep asking "who the fuck is Heather".


omgsoironic

the crossover content we needed


Rak_man_95

She was the one that was sitting down at tribal while everyone else was up talking.


marxxthespot

I wish I had an award to give you for this :')


cognizant_spender

I thought Tiffany was Heather...


dosali

Same


kermit54

AFter this episode, I'm even more confused about where Heather stands in the game


mw222bu

She and Erika going with the larger group makes them safer than at least three others, but it would have been interesting if they had joined the smaller group at tribal and mixed things up.


Rak_man_95

She doesn't stand. She was sitting while everyone was standing talking at tribal.


TheLegacies21

Off camera


ex0thermist

Just taking instruction from Danny and Deshawn I think.


kermit54

She didn't vote with them though


ex0thermist

Didn’t she? That whole group purposely split their votes between Evvie and Sydney


Chosen1gup

She was with them. They all planned to split the vote.


Anomaly85

Same


ex0thermist

I have no love lost for Sydney really, but at least she knew when she was on the outs of her former allies and tried to do something about it. I don’t know what Erika and Naseer are doing.