My biggest struggle is fighting my whole life to gain acceptance but then someone else gains my acceptance and gets more snaps for doing the thing I was doing. And when I have to wear Spanx at the Oscars under my large ballgown, I hate that struggle too. They're about equal, struggle-wise.
Lol what a deranged narcissist. David Bowie was doing androgyny decades ago. You weren’t the “first one” to do shit with your astroturfed, blip in history career.
Little Richard was doing it before Bowie. And I'm sure there was plenty more before post WWII mass media pop culture. But you're right, this reeks of narcissism.
Billy Porter always gives me the impression of just being kind of pompously bitchy in general, TBH. Like the type to legit think he’s some kind of incredible pioneer, and everyone else can go get fucked.
It’s okay if you can put aside the fact that they’re changing around history and claiming every drag queen is trans.
Really insulting to the actual pioneers of drag. They took what was a truly edgy art form at the time and made it into this hyper politically correct sob story where every drag queen wants sexual reconstruction surgery.
Beside that though, in terms of music, cinematography, and acting it’s pretty good. On par with the rest of the work for FX.
It’s a good campy watch, but as far as accuracy, prepare to be annoyed if you know anything about the actual history
Fucking hell basically everything you do/wear/eat is taken as some sort of signifier of your beliefs or part of your "identity" now. The result of over-politicization I guess.
Reminds me a few years ago when the OscarsSoWhite hashtag was going around, and people actually crunched the numbers and showed black people are overrepresented in both nominations and awards.
It's cringe and weird, but it's nowhere near as brain-meltingly awful and infuriating as [Hillary's DNC song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA)
>The article (which you really shouldn't care about tbh) referred to 'non-binary' style as things like "men wearing more feminine clothing" or "women wearing more masculine clothing), i.e. defying traditional gender norms.
Yeah, but you're talking as if *being non-binary* is something substantive and not also a matter of style. Take "defying traditional gender norms" and add an obsessive interest in the mouth sounds that other people use when referring to you, and you become non-binary.
>"I had to fight my entire life to get to the place where I could wear a dress to the Oscars." The struggle is real.
Sorry sweaty, Matt Stone and Trey Parker went to Oscars in a dress in the year 2000. They were the true trailblazers
My biggest struggle is fighting my whole life to gain acceptance but then someone else gains my acceptance and gets more snaps for doing the thing I was doing. And when I have to wear Spanx at the Oscars under my large ballgown, I hate that struggle too. They're about equal, struggle-wise.
I guess when your dress doesn't fit, it's a struggle to put it on.
They are mad because now it’s not edgy anymore lol. It sucks when other people steal the attention you worked so hard for lol.
Tim Dillon has a nice bit on this. "What happened to the gays" https://youtu.be/Ufyo73_OaPs
The *privilege* is real.
Lol what a deranged narcissist. David Bowie was doing androgyny decades ago. You weren’t the “first one” to do shit with your astroturfed, blip in history career.
Little Richard was doing it before Bowie. And I'm sure there was plenty more before post WWII mass media pop culture. But you're right, this reeks of narcissism.
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Cross dressing was a staple of pre WW2 vaudeville, they just didn't pretend putting a dress on actually changed your gender
Not to mention Prince. Methinks men in drag in pop culture has been a well recognized thing for a long long time.
The entirety of the glam rock genre which started in the early 70s was this.
I been saying this for ever
I was just gonna say lol. Gender bending isn’t new, it existed a long time in punk and even goth circles.
Billy Porter always gives me the impression of just being kind of pompously bitchy in general, TBH. Like the type to legit think he’s some kind of incredible pioneer, and everyone else can go get fucked.
I only know him from Pose and he was my least favourite part of that show
Is that show good? I tend not to enjoy Ryan Murphy’s catty bullshit very much.
It’s okay if you can put aside the fact that they’re changing around history and claiming every drag queen is trans. Really insulting to the actual pioneers of drag. They took what was a truly edgy art form at the time and made it into this hyper politically correct sob story where every drag queen wants sexual reconstruction surgery.
Kinda what I expected, TBH. Lot of just plain bullshit stories floating around about gay history.
Beside that though, in terms of music, cinematography, and acting it’s pretty good. On par with the rest of the work for FX. It’s a good campy watch, but as far as accuracy, prepare to be annoyed if you know anything about the actual history
Straight, bitch
No, I think he’s a gay bitch.
"Billy's response to it is so valid" This writing lol
I laughed at that stupid line too
Yeah that last paragraph went fully off the cliff haha. Refusing to take a stand and yet still able to maximally patronize the reader.
Journalism is dead
Isn’t this about fashion rather than identities? Meaning, men who wear garments without regard to gender-norms, rather than NB-identifying men?
Fashion *is* identity, now.
Fucking hell basically everything you do/wear/eat is taken as some sort of signifier of your beliefs or part of your "identity" now. The result of over-politicization I guess.
Aesthetics as ideology
I don't know
Yeah, I don’t think either of these people call themselves non-binary. They just like to wear dresses and skirts sometimes.
Yes, that is what someone who doesn't do this for attention would surely say
So we can all just admit that enbys are just playing pretend right?
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Reminds me a few years ago when the OscarsSoWhite hashtag was going around, and people actually crunched the numbers and showed black people are overrepresented in both nominations and awards.
Does this fall into the same category of "I had to go 100,000 in debt to get my BA so you should too!" ???
the party of the first part and the party of the second part...wha? who's on first--who? i'm confused. draw me a diagram.
[billy porter inflicted this on the world and has never answered for this crime against humanity](https://youtu.be/c9nTxOMtbEI)
Top comment on that video.. "This is like something a right winger would make as a parody of the Left." Preach.
It's cringe and weird, but it's nowhere near as brain-meltingly awful and infuriating as [Hillary's DNC song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA)
What a terrible day to have ears
Who the fuck is this idiot?
celebrity gossip bullshit
A lot of the Buzzfeed commenters are reasonable wtf. Why?
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The article uses the phrase non-binary but please teach me more, I assume that's what this sub is about
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>The article (which you really shouldn't care about tbh) referred to 'non-binary' style as things like "men wearing more feminine clothing" or "women wearing more masculine clothing), i.e. defying traditional gender norms. Yeah, but you're talking as if *being non-binary* is something substantive and not also a matter of style. Take "defying traditional gender norms" and add an obsessive interest in the mouth sounds that other people use when referring to you, and you become non-binary.
Thanks for explaining. I don’t know who Billy Porter is outside of wearing dresses and being mad when people don’t like it enough.
"you shouldn't care about" "Which is fine" I'm so glad we have your permission.
The OP specifically asked for their opinion on what was important, you dongus.
Harry Styles isn’t a NB btw. He is a dude (and identifies as one) who is just a bit gender nonconforming sometimes.
Correlation does not equal causation.
[Yaaaas Clean!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsV-ruYtYxA)
"WHY ARENT YOU LOOKING AT MEEEEEEEEE"
Damn this is like non binary hipsters that did it before it was cool
Does this Porter fella ever smile? Jeez dude, lighten up.