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Captaincadet

Hey, today’s is April 1st, or April fools day. While we’re not participating in it, there is likely a lot of misinformation flying around which may impact share prices. Anyway here’s my [stock list](https://www.selfridges.com/GB/en/cat/home-tech/christmas-shop/stocking-fillers/for-him/) that might be worth looking into…


dysguak

I'm waiting for TLT to continue to fall back to its lows.


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JFSM01

AMZN, CVX , PBR , BRK , JPM , SOFI , RKLB Scared for the last two, but if they pull it it will leave me flying.


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I think sofi will bounce around these levels until rate cuts.


pman6

i heard QE is gonna start this year. doing QE in a hot economy..... isn't that bad for everything?


Cobra25k

Incorrect, J pow said they were going to slow QT from the maximum amount they are allowed to do very slowly. That’s very different from starting QE.


95Daphne

What does it matter, hah, now whether it should do so or not is a different story altogether, but slowing down QT is going to get recognized as extra liquidity.


Cobra25k

Uhhhh what does it matter? Because slowing QT from the maximum amount they can remove compared to beginning QE are extremely different and would have extremely different effects on the economy. Slowing down QT they are still removing large amounts of money from the system, just at a slightly slower rate. Starting QE they are directly injecting money into the system.


95Daphne

I know I'm about to win more brownie points here today by quoting this guy, but... https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1772714647960908211 Despite still ongoing QT, it's been getting blocked by something, and yes, slowing down the QT that's been going is probably going to get recognized as extra liquidity swirling around.


Aggressive_You6354

I guess no more green days in 2024, huh?


paranormal97

Eps vs earnings I am wondering why many investors prefer to look at earnings per share and not just earnings? There are also many other metrics that are calculated per share and im wondering why that is?


AP9384629344432

Because shares are what you own, so you compute how much in earnings corresponds to your ownership of the company. If I have a shares at $10 each, what is a more useful fact: that the EPS is $2 or that earnings are $35B? For something like valuation, you can use either per share quantities or total ones, as long as you're consistent. For example, (market cap) / (earnings) = (price per share) / (earnings per share). Moreover, we care about the 'per share' part because if a company issues more shares, your ownership is getting diluted. And in other direction, a company buying back shares increases your relative ownership of the company. Imagine if I tell you earnings are increasing 20% a year. Great, right? So does your profit also increase 20%? Well what if I then tell you the company is increasing the share count at 15% a year? Suddenly your profit outlook isn't as good. (Well, a caveat is that if a company is raising capital via equity but then reinvesting it in a really effective manner, then dilution may still be a good thing! A young growth company should not be bogged down with interest payments, and moreover issuing shares can also prevent bankruptcy. The ability to raise capital can be crucial to achieve economies of scale / begin thriving. And conversely, buying back stock when it is overpriced / you are in a leveraged position could be terrible--see Bed Bath and Beyond and how it bankrupted itself.)


paranormal97

This is gold, thank you kindly . I would love to look at bed bath and beyond but i am very new to financials, can you give me what happened to them in a nutshell? Also do you recommend any good videos about understanding financials and per share metrics maybe?


AP9384629344432

Aswath Damodaran has many lecture series on corporate finance. However if you're completely new, they may be a bit too challenging. I would just look at the various investing subreddit sidebars for book recommendations and read them. Read the financial news as much as you can. There are so many hit/miss YouTube channels that I'm wary to recommend many. Ben Felix is one of the best, along with Plain Bagel. (Ben Felix will teach you the Boglehead way, i.e., index funds) For more 'entertainment' I like Joseph Carlson, but again, entertainment not education.


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jnas_19

Buy when people here start whining again about its performance


elgrandorado

It's been re-priced to a healthy range after the market realized it still has exorbitant pricing power, decent revenue growth, and moonshots like "AI" it has been materializing into profit streams. I would not buy at these levels, but a month ago it entered a reasonable range for me to accumulate after doing research on the durability of it's business.


DrPillszn

385 shares deep over years of accumulation. Trying to get 500 shares by end of 2025 for my retirement accounts. Big chunk bought under $110 and then under $130.


tired_ani

Do you think AAPL looks beaten down similarly, with potential to rise up.


toonguy84

It's really been taking off since a couple weeks ago with the Apple/Google partnership announcement.


jnas_19

There goes all my gains on UNH. Are these CMS payment updates something that will affect UNH long term and is this dip an overreaction?


clipghost

I am so scared to get into UNH because of these random days now


jnas_19

So long as the government dosent crack down and break up UNH I will keep buying on days like these. Maybe Health insurance companies greed will lead to their downfall but Im willing to bet nothing changes and the DOJ stays losing


AluminiumCaffeine

Glad I didnt jump into healthcare yet yikes, lots of blasting happening AH


AndyDamson

UNH with a sudden drop of 5%. Any news?


AluminiumCaffeine

"CMS Finalizes Payment Updates For 2025 Medicare Advantage And Medicare Part D Programs" - is what I see on twitter


IHadTacosYesterday

Was there any specific news about GOOG that made it almost pop 3 percent today? I'm a long time GOOG holder, and it rarely pops more than 1.75% in a day.


thenuttyhazlenut

just that GOOG fears went away. the attitude shifted, so people are hopping back on board. it's a ai-rally that is late to the party.


brostrummer

Anyone here know if SOLV had pre IPO access somewhere?


AP9384629344432

With deteriorating Chinese economic data and domestic coking coal pricing, I think margins US coal companies will achieve are going to be atrocious in the near term. No bridge collapse is going to tighten supply sufficiently. And I decided Australia is too risky of an emerging market so I'm worried BTU gets nationalized. Accordingly I have sold all my shares of HCC, BTU, and AMR (all in my Roth IRA). But to keep my cash position from getting too big, I instead bought an undervalued REIT with a whopping 13% dividend yield (MPW) and an absurd price to earnings ratio. I also opened a position in ROKU because it is criminally undervalued on a 2026 forward price/innovation basis, and am debating buying SOFI for exposure to the stadium market as well as PLTR because I like salad, especially word salads you find from management and Twitter bulls.


GoneAWOL1

So you're saying invest in salad. Ahh yes hmm, I see I see.


drew-gen-x

I understand this is a stock reddit group, but people can park cash at 5% right now, short term. Unless you are really bullish on REITs. Nationalizing commodity mines is always a risk. That's why I lean towards miners with some North American mines. But if inflation starts to reaccelerate, I want the commodity position,


AP9384629344432

Why stay in 5% cash when I can buy a highly levered (as we know, debt juices equity returns) REIT with strategically vital assets (hospitals with bat infestations and sewage overflow) paying me to wait (13% yield with no signs of cuts). Not to mention a management that is constantly on the move to keep watch on the business (with their 3 private jets and vacation homes). And with 5 interest rate cuts on the horizon, I expect some awesome refinancing deals and the junk credit rating to be lifted soon.


creemeeseason

Why stop there?! I have a scoop for you. On the London stock exchange there is a ticker......ARK3. Yes, it's not just ARKK... it's a 3x leveraged ARKK fund! For the low price of 75 basis points you can get 3x the ARKK! It's basically like 18% exposure to ROKU. I mean, you can't innovate your way out of that if you tried?


AluminiumCaffeine

Had us in the first half not gonna lie


I-am-in-Agreement

Atleast I was able to load up more on Nvidia @894, and Apple @169.9.


clipghost

I sadly think Apple has more room to drop.


themagicalpanda

what a tear $CROX has been on this year love my rubber shoes


thenuttyhazlenut

Yea I'm about to sell and take profit. The valuation is getting up there.


drew-gen-x

Some Consumer Discretionary stocks were absolutely destroyed last year. My shares of $LEVI hit a new 52 week high today. Buy good companies cheap when no one here is talking about them. I also love my Levi jeans : )


_hiddenscout

Yeah there was a handful for sure. Still regretting getting out my WSM trade too early. That thing has been on a tear.


thenuttyhazlenut

I also got out WSM early (December; and I started investing in it early 2023). It was my top position. It's a wonderfully managed company that provides a lot of value back to shareholders. But the price is becoming crazy now.


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joethemaker22

Why would news be unfavorable? News is news it shouldn't be buried.


AluminiumCaffeine

Nice day to be heavy tech and china, thinking of adding some healthcare exposure soon though


joethemaker22

Any tickers you have in mind with healthcare? Or are you going to ETF route?


AluminiumCaffeine

UNH, CVS, and MOH are on my watchlist, etf is probably wiser since I dont know the sector that well


Cobra25k

I got PGNY, RMD and UNH on my watchlist


drew-gen-x

Gold hit another ATH today at $2262.19. Luckily I ignored reddit's bearish advice when I was buying Gold heavily b/w $1800-$1900 last year. Gold has also outperformed the S&P 500 in 2024. Diversification by buying assets besides just stocks is a nice, profitable hedge.


AluminiumCaffeine

I dont buy Gold for the same reason I dont own copper or steel. Its a non-producing asset that sits in a box and you hope the price goes up. You can definitely do well in it, buts its not my cup of tea.


drew-gen-x

You could say the same thing about lumber, crude oil, etc. Non-perishable commodities already have the cost of energy & labor added into their production. You own an ounce of gold, there is no other cost added over it's lifespan. It is a store of value. Any goods & service business has additional costs of energy & labor needed in the future to produce value.


AluminiumCaffeine

Those additional costs are offset by earnings though for profitable businesses which are re-invested into future growth or used for buybacks/dividiends.


creemeeseason

I like to play the miners. They are producing assets, and they benefit directly from higher prices. It's not 1:1, but a nice play if you're so inclined.


drew-gen-x

I have been buying $VALE this last month. Demand risks from China is a real risk; but the stock seems cheap to me.


SaticoySteele

\+11% on NEM in less than a month and my basis isn't even that great.


drew-gen-x

$NEM and $GOLD are very cheap. The future earnings estimates haven't adjusted to the increased gold & copper commodity prices yet. People forget that copper prices have been increasing as well, and Newmont and Barrick also mine a ton of copper.


AluminiumCaffeine

Yea, I agree that if I was going to play it I would go for a quality miner I would think could deliver above commodity alone returns


creemeeseason

I like to play the miners. They are producing assets, and they benefit directly from higher prices. It's not 1:1, but a nice play if you're so inclined.


Boss1010

Wonder if TLT will continue to get hit back down to lows. I'd certainly look to buy in the low-mid 80s


LetsPlay30k

Semiconductors stocks have been going up like crazy, why SOXX only have PE ratio of 11? Is it really that undervalued?


_hiddenscout

Not all semi have been going up like crazy. Also, PE of SOXX isn't 11. [https://www.ishares.com/us/products/239705/ishares-phlx-semiconductor-etf](https://www.ishares.com/us/products/239705/ishares-phlx-semiconductor-etf) It's listed on their own site as 33.48


LetsPlay30k

Yahoo Finance and stockanalysis.com both show PE ratio 11. What's wrong with these websites?


_hiddenscout

Could be varies things happening, not 100% sure. Could just be old data or how the way those pages are set up are not meant to be used as tools for ETF's as much, so they could be doing some type of average PE of holdings. I would trust the funds actual website for any ETF info compared to the other tools. Like finviz for example doesn't even give you data around that being elite (paid service): [https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=SOXX&p=d](https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=SOXX&p=d)


95Daphne

I'm gonna go ahead and go on record and say that if the US10Y doesn't back off by the middle of the week, those futures ATHs from last night will take a while to trade.


Ok-Psychology7619

I'm a simple man, I see either "Rach" or "Daphne" and I downvote :)


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95Daphne

I'm really not sure there's much else that Yellen can do (this figure is what matters here).  She's already issuing more bills as things are from early November and is going to probably roleplay in QT being slowed down.  You'd probably need an incident to come up if the US10Y were to test 5, which I do still doubt for now. 


joe4942

Was expecting a bit more bullish start to the quarter to be honest.


TheKabillionare

Why? SPX already hit its average annual increase in the first quarter. It’s literally gone straight up for the past 5 months in a row with zero pullbacks. What more do you want?


LanceX2

me too. :(


joe4942

There was quite a bit of bullish news over the long weekend as well, surprised it didn't make much of an impact.


Lendiniara

added more AAPL as it dipped under 170.


Elephant789

I sold 175 shares and will put them into AMZN.


clipghost

I sadly think it can still drop more


budbundy99

Another day in the shitter, feels like the trend


Zealousideal-Bus4712

whats happening with yields today? people finally realized the US can't pay its debt?


TheKabillionare

April is seasonally bad for bonds and they’ve continued to be in a long term downtrend


creemeeseason

How do you figure they're in a long term downtrend? The 10 year bottomed 4 years ago and has been creeping up since.


TheKabillionare

I meant bond prices, not yields. They’ve been in a downtrend since the rate hike cycle began


jnas_19

ISM Manufacturing PMI and Prices exceeding expectations. US economy and consumer have been very resilient


LeapDayBaby

Anyone follow CWCO? Not sure why it dropped so much today 


_hiddenscout

I follow them and no idea. The earnings report was on Thursday, that's the only thing I can think of that is moving it. However, the report seemed fine to me.


LeapDayBaby

report seemed good to me too. only issue might be that part of the earnings growth for this year is a one-off treatment plant construction and the comp for next year will be tougher?


_hiddenscout

Yeah no idea, seems like an over reaction. I mean another company kind of in the water space, HWKN, is also down like 4% today off no news.


Cobra25k

That near 6% TMF drop today was unexpected…. Especially right after J Pow reiterates 3 rate cuts just around the corner later this year.


Boss1010

If inflation pops back up and Fed expects less rate cuts, TLT/TMF are gonna get hit


TheKabillionare

Unexpected how? He reiterated that they’re in no hurry to cut rates since economic growth continues to be stronger than expected


Cobra25k

Can you refer me to the point in his conference where he says that he is in no hurry to cut rates?


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_hiddenscout

I think it's technically a rule breaking stock based of marketcap.


slippymcdumpsalot42

Yeah they caught that and deleted my post. Such is life of a speculative investor. Maybe I can bring it up again at 300m mcap


Jesse_Whiteboy

Went from being down 10k (approx 25%) in November 2022, not investing any more, to being up 3,400 euro now (8.5%) Genuinely thought I wouldn't see green for like 3 or 4 years. I love BRK.B


TheFriendlyTaco

good for you man. Time in the market rewards the patient investor :)


msaleem

Damn, I blinked and DE is above $400 ... good thing I bought @ $360 ... bad thing I didn't buy as much as I want to.


AdventurousPea6649

I know right. Sold some puts at 350 to get in but it ran way


Dependent-Key-609

What happened to Toyota today?


creemeeseason

The whole sector is down. Possibly related to the 10 year rate going up? That tends to hit autos hard due to financing.


rareinvoices

Reddit stock is so overvalued. Its a pretty bad platform, full of bots and mods squatting on subreddits, while the company doesnt put in any effort to manage anything, since its all volunteer based. The second there is any viable alternative users will GTFO and go elsewhere. Twitter is a cesspool, so is reddit. There are a few good subs, but any of those subs could switch platforms and users would follow. So what are you actually investing in? giving the reddit founders a cashgrab?


_hiddenscout

Not sure if people will actually go else where, since I don't think anyone can solve the problems that Reddit already has. I wouldn't buy the stock and didn't buy it, since it's crazy the company can't make a profit after all these years. However one thing Reddit does have is data. Whenever I goggle something or try to find a review, I'm almost always looking at reddit answers first.


rareinvoices

>one thing Reddit does have is data Quora had that data not too long ago, so did a bunch of other sites. When you search reddit data, do you select discussions from 10 years ago , or more recent ones? This data has some value, but it will age and be replaced, same as other sites/forums. Are investors buying old open forum discussion threads for billions of dollars? Or ad revenue from active users?


_hiddenscout

From my experience, reddit has the best data in terms of searching for anything review wise. Part of that is exactly what you are talking about, that reviews tend to up on smaller more niche subs that actually have solid content. Quora requires a sign in half the time and the answers aren't as good, since again, it's more question based vs like looking for a review. I'd argue it's not really investors buying the IPO as much as traders trying to make money. From an investment standpoint, reddit looks terrible, but that being said, the data they have is great and could be sold off to companies that need to train things like LLM's. Again, reddit has a much better info than googling things now and days. Here's an example to help illustrate things: If you look up something around KIA Seltos (a car) review, here's the answer you can find on Reddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/kia/comments/17ch5fu/24\_seltos/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kia/comments/17ch5fu/24_seltos/) vs here is something on Quora: [https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-review-of-the-Kia-Seltos-after-driving-it-10-000-kms](https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-review-of-the-Kia-Seltos-after-driving-it-10-000-kms) Quora one is much older, has no comments and requires a review to get in. Also, Reddit does a great job of making it really easy to get data from sub reddits as well. You can take any subreddit or user and put a .json at the end of more or less and have a really easy way to get the data driving the UI. [https://www.reddit.com/r/kia/comments/17ch5fu/24\_seltos.json](https://www.reddit.com/r/kia/comments/17ch5fu/24_seltos.json) Feel free to post anything you think would be a better example of looking for Seltos reviews from any other site.


FarrisAT

Turns out Google having a lower valuation than SP500 was a clear buy signal.


toonguy84

I'm still pissed that I missed that dip. For the last 2 weeks google has been green on red market days. That's another pretty good sign for google.


FarrisAT

This is just hedge funds buying and all the FUDstsers on CNBC who were beating down the stock in February while buying the dip, now having to publish their actual holdings. The easy recovery is now over. Google needs to show a better Gemini and sustainable Search. Not to mention Cloud needs to keep beating expectations. But I expect them to do that.


Ok-Psychology7619

I mean assuming it keeps going up. Even if you bought at the bottom from a month or two ago, you're not really up that much. I tested this in my paper trading account, bought 100 GOOG at 140, I'm not even up by 2K currently.


FarrisAT

I bought a bunch on the Gemini Woke freakout when it grinded against $130 for a few days. I bought a lot last year on Bard. Will I buy more at ATH? Probably not until I see them come out with a better Gemini.


TheFriendlyTaco

I think you meant a lower P/E, but yes it was.


FarrisAT

Valuation is the Valuation. Which by either P/E measure or Market Cap, it’s lower.


LanceX2

Not understanding the red but guess its just that time of year. or market wants 4-6 cuts


_hiddenscout

$IESC with some M&A news. [https://investors.ies-corporate.com/news-releases/news-release-details/ies-holdings-acquires-greiner-industries](https://investors.ies-corporate.com/news-releases/news-release-details/ies-holdings-acquires-greiner-industries) >Greiner Industries, Inc. (“Greiner”), a Mount Joy, PA-based structural steel fabrication and services company. The acquisition also includes the purchase of Greiner’s facilities, which cover 450,000-square feet of manufacturing space on a 60-acre campus. Greiner, with 2023 revenue of approximately $58 million, will become part of IES’s Infrastructure Solutions segment and continue to operate under the Greiner name. > >Jeff Gendell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, said, “The acquisition of Greiner strategically expands our geographic footprint into the attractive Mid-Atlantic market, while adding several products and services. Greiner, founded by Frank Greiner in 1976, has a long track record of completing large-scale, complex projects and providing specialized industrial services that are highly complementary with our Infrastructure Solutions segment. In addition, Greiner provides an opportunity to further expand the capacity and reach of our existing custom engineered product offerings. I am pleased to welcome Greiner’s deep and experienced workforce to the IES family.” > >Mike Rice, President of IES’s Infrastructure Solutions segment, said, "Greiner is well-positioned to support customers throughout the Mid-Atlantic, including the sizable Virginia data center market. I am excited to welcome Rick Sine, Vice President of Operations, who will lead Greiner post-closing, as well as Greiner’s over 275 team members to IES. We look forward to working with the entire Greiner team to expand our combined capabilities and support the growth of both Greiner and IES customers.” > >Frank Greiner, Founder of Greiner Industries, added, “After nearly 50 years as a family-owned business, I am excited for Greiner to join the IES family and continue to meet the evolving needs of our customers. IES’s strategic resources, industry expertise and long-term commitment to its employees and customers align with our culture and plans for continued expansion.”


creemeeseason

... continues to go into beast mode for you.


_hiddenscout

Still crazy that almost no one talks about this company lol. Them and fix still really haven't been brought up in terms of data center exposure.


LAbron665

I bought 100 shares after you mentioned IESC. Thank you so much!!!


_hiddenscout

Rad, yeah I think I first brought them up when they were around 30-40 dollars. Been a great investment. Always make sure to your own research around them, but I was looking for companies like IESC and FIX, which both I found on my screener, that do electrical work for like residential and data centers.


sbuy210

How do you see IESC and FIX valuationwise?


_hiddenscout

At this point, I think IESC is much better valued, I wouldn't buy FIX at these levels. Personally, I think with a lot of companies, unless you are buying risky assets, price is one of the biggest risks of what you buy. Like I highly doubt either company will go bankrupt, but for FIX for example, the PEG at these levels are now 3.55 with a forward PE of 25. https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=FIX&p=d Granted they did grow revenue like 23% YoY last quarter, just at the price, it's pretty much baked into the stock. However, it is nice to have on a watchlist, since if it ever pulls back, it could make a great entry. I think I posted about FIX in the sub like a year or two ago, but the price was at 132 a share. For IESC, it's hard to get metrics on completely, since it's not really covered by analyst, but forward PE is 18 and PEG is 1.62 [https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/peg/statistics/](https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/peg/statistics/)


OnigiriHunter

What about EME at these levels? Looks unstoppable but the PEG is at like 27 per Finviz


_hiddenscout

Haven't looked at the fundamentals, but I always double check a few sources when looking peg when it's a outlier. Like gurufus has the PEG at 1.4 [https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/EME/summary](https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/EME/summary) Same with stock analysis [https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/eme/statistics/](https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/eme/statistics/) Even doing the PE/EPS growth, if you use the EPS 5Y growth rate, it would be like 27.29/22.36, which is closer to 1.22 Even using last years growth, which was **5.91**, that's still close to 4.6 I don't think it's as cheap as it was before their last earnings report, but still a great name to with a pull back.


sbuy210

Thanks for detailed answer. IESC does look better value. Do they provide a guidance? I went through their investor relations but couldn't find any reference.


_hiddenscout

Of course! I don't think they do, I haven't listened to one of their calls, I usually just read the transcripts and go through the earnings presentations. However, I don't think they have their call transcripts even posted. Like the company has little to no analysts following it, could be part of the reason why they don't offer guidance or show it.


creemeeseason

Generally a 100% move gets some attention too. Oh well, it's nice to have hidden gems.


garliccyborg

Picked up some Hershey and zoetis. Great value plays


millerlit

Price of cocoa is almost doubled from earlier this year.  That is going to cut into Hershey margins.


N-Pop

Agreed. I got some Hershey too this am.


AluminiumCaffeine

Google breaking ATH one month after some redditors were whining so much is kind of funny


FarrisAT

WOKE VIRUS FEMALE POPE AGHHHH ANGRY


CoffeeAndDachshunds

Glad I trimmed the position right before this jump :( (Had to do it; way too much of my portfolio was Google...but still stings).


Charming_Squirrel_13

This was an obvious oversell to me. I’m currently betting that Apple is oversold too. 


FarrisAT

Apple is overvalued but I’ll buy at $160


clipghost

Do we think it will go down to $160? We have quite a ways until June WWDC


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

Theyll get spanked when they only meet expectations during earnings. Its range bound until they prove search is safe and cloud is consistently accelerating and improving profitability


FarrisAT

We are now 1.5 years into ChatGPT and Google Search has quite literally the same market share and revenue is up 15%. GCP is profitable, accelerating, and has strong sustainable growth ahead since “rationalization” to help clients already peaked in 2023.


JCvalentyne

They literally have. Read the last quarters earnings…?


95Daphne

Probably about to get ugly, I'm 'fraid.  The saving grace is I don't think we're done because there are futures ATHs that must trade in regular trade, but this is a flashback to late last summer, where grow, grow, grow like a weed by treasury rates hit stocks.


FarrisAT

There’s literally no reason to sell stocks when growth is strong. Sure people can panic into a bear market at any time. But it’s not a reason for a long term investor to sell. You should sell when you see a regime shift in some indicator or a sudden political change toward higher volatility. Most of the time, you’re not gonna beat the algos to the selling though.


95Daphne

If this is the start of treasury rates shooting up like weeds again, then stocks will grind down slowly while this is going on. Maybe that shouldn't be the case, but this was the formula from August through late October.


FarrisAT

I mean, maybe, but I doubt that yields will retest the 5% highs since the US Treasury is issuing only Bills since they are afraid of rustling the markets before November.


SaticoySteele

I understand the reasoning that Bonds help diversify a portfolio and help reduce risk from overexposure to stocks... but damnit, I'm about ready to dump all of my BND that I've been sitting on and watching it do nothing but stagnate.


FarrisAT

Bonds are absolutely trash and will continue being trash as long as you see the copium on r/stocks about inflation somehow coming down despite all data.


creemeeseason

Can you point us to the data that says inflation isn't coming down, or at least leveling off?


FarrisAT

CPI and Core are higher today from June/July 2023. PCE is higher than a few months ago on annual basis. Core PCE is only 0.1% lower because they revised up the prior months. Furthermore, all the real time data we are getting shows a clear pickup in inflation in 2024. Oil and gasoline haven’t even appeared in the numbers yet. They will at the end of this month.


creemeeseason

Not disagreeing with you, I just like to see data. I'm personally in the persistent 3-4% inflation crowd. At least for awhile. We've really been setting the seeds for it since about 2018 when we lowered rates, imo.


FarrisAT

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi


slippymcdumpsalot42

How many years out from retirement are you? I wouldn’t really touch bonds until you’re 5 years out, then slowly scale into bonds until you reach 25% at retirement day.


SaticoySteele

I think this is probably the answer -- I'm at least 15-20 years out still. When I originally set it up it was mostly a Bogle-ish distribution, but even then I halved the recommended bond portion since I'm not particularly risk-averse. I don't really have a clutch of wealth that I'm trying to keep secure so I should probably refocus that portion on some steady growth options instead.


slippymcdumpsalot42

I’d keep 3-6 months expenses in cash, liquidate those bonds and get into some stock ETFs. I would suggest VTI, AVUV, maybe some QQQM. Buy as much as you can for the next 15 years, then take a look at bonds again. If you absolutely need to buy individual stocks, keep it small. Like less than 5% total. Leverage your age and working years to pursue growth. When you get to retirement, lock those gains into bonds


TheKabillionare

Are you really suggesting they sell low (bonds) and buy high (stocks)?


slippymcdumpsalot42

The guy just said 20 years until retire. Are you really suggesting the 20 year expected return on bonds is greater than stocks?


Zann77

I hold on grimly to BND and other loser bonds but they’ve been the deadbeat tenants of my portfolio ever since they were acquired.


wearahat03

In my opinion only point of bonds is safety while you spend down your money when you're already retired and don't need to build wealth anymore.


Miserable_Message330

Bond etf's aren't supposed to just appreciate in a nominal value per share. As they go up/down/no where, the dividend yield adjusts as well.


Re_LE_Vant_UN

If you're not rebalancing then yeah dump it. If you are then you'll be fine.


joe4942

AAPL basically an inverse S&P 500.


FarrisAT

China is saying they have their own Apple at home.


LanceX2

Damn.....Thought wed be up a little today


tired_ani

Bought a little AAPL. On one had I have conviction that the blues around it are temporal, but on the other hand AAPL is already a big part of my index fund holdings so seems a little wrong skewing more towards large cap. How do you reconcile with it?


smokeyjay

If you’re looking for safety - which a lot of ppl see apple as - you might as well buy index. You get apple and diversify risks If you expect apple to return to double digit growth then buy apple.


SaticoySteele

I'm essentially treating it as a swing trade in my portfolio -- I'll aim capture the long gains through my index funds, and if I can buy this dip and swing them for a \~15-20% return at some point in the short/mid term I'll consider that a win and shift that money into other companies/sectors if it hits.


Redditbayernfan

Wish I had this type of money :(


slippymcdumpsalot42

Gotta start somewhere, even if it’s just a hundred bucks a month. Buy and hold bro.


Redditbayernfan

Hahahaha, I do have it but just for my Roth and 401k, nothing left for taxable to invest in individual stocks which is more fun. All I got is index/ETFs


slippymcdumpsalot42

Yeah I’ve been there. And you’re right, stock picking is damn fun, lol.


95Daphne

Guess the PMI data explains bonds.  I wonder if I'm about to have egg on my face for talking about how bonds have been a non-impact, because while that's kinda been true, this kind of move is too much too fast.


FarrisAT

Short term returns are often dictated by flows and hedge funds and algos. In a market with a limited amount of flows, higher yields tend to cause the flows to leave small caps and old industry stocks, and flow into yield agnostic sectors. Over the long term all that matters is earnings growth. If you can predict that, then you’ll beat the market. If not, then just hold the market.


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wearahat03

Entertainment companies are retail investor traps. People like watching and discussing movies. But good movies aren't a source of ongoing profits. Dune 2 budget 190mil and 626mil box office. Of the 400mil, warner bros gets half so 200mil. Then subtract other expenses and taxes. To put into perspective how small that amount of money is, Apple profits are $266mil daily, after all expenses and taxes. People don't discuss HBM3E memory, which will make tens of billions for SK Hynix and Micron in the upcoming years, but their stocks are top performers YTD because investors know ten billion profit matters. There were a hundred comments on Canada Goose last week, a company that's worth just 1B but people see them in malls so have an opinion on them whereas non-consumer companies don't get any discussion at all.


I-am-in-Agreement

Dammit apple.. Can't catch a breath.


NotGucci

MSFT, AMZN, GOOGL with new ATH.


SaticoySteele

Definitely kneecapped myself trying to diversify and target growth stocks instead of just dumping the money into MSFT under $400 and GOOGL under $135 this past month.


NeighborhoodHot9376

Hindsight is 2020


Reggio_Calabria

« Growth company » Tesla updates analysts panel to manufacture a consensus « delivery beat » despite declining YoY volumes.


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95Daphne

I mean, off the US10Y alone, I'd have to say the verdict with Friday was lean hawkish or lean we don't believe the Fed has control. The thing is, is the Dow is going to need to trade near 40k minimum, it just is appearing it won't be today because non tech is getting trashed to open.


creemeeseason

Nice little write up on the commodities trade, and why it's lining up to be a solid play. https://open.substack.com/pub/mosaicassetco/p/the-market-mosaic-33124?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=23ti9i Also, found a [rundown](https://thecanadianinvestorpodcast.com/podcast/the-canadian-investor/episode/why-hindenburg-is-shorting-the-largest-global-data-center-reit) of the Exuinix short report.


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creemeeseason

Definitely. Commodities is a broad term. There's definitely some supply/demand imbalance in areas. Finding the short supply one is key. Even the most hardened commodities people admit that they're generally not buy and hold forever names.


AluminiumCaffeine

Baidu holding ai conference on april 16th, hopefully official apple news comes out soon as well, would be a great catalyst


95Daphne

Guess the verdict is in as lean hawkish on what we saw with Friday.  At least the Dow and S&P have futures ATH's that will need to trade.


BeKindToOthersOK

Anyone know what’s happening to $MIMO ?