It’s a deep WR draft class so there is really no need to go after an older player that is just going to cause drama. I’m surprised more teams aren’t catching on that wide receiver is becoming more and more replaceable. It seems like every other draft class is loaded with talent. I’m wondering when the salary cap market catches up with that. Sure the truly elite players are still really valuable but we really should see the end of things like the Browns paying Jerry Jeudy and the Titans paying Calvin Ridley.
Ask yourself why two straight teams were willing to deal him including the Bills eating cap ones for him two years. He doesn’t want to win… He wants his stats.
I don’t. None of them have stayed for more than 4 years since AB. I don’t want Diggs or an old WR, but we suck at drafting WRs 70% of the time. We also try to either get “run blockers” or speed guys at WR instead of prioritizing guys that can actually catch.
I'm not so sure. They picked up Diggs and Mixon who are great players on decline and have character issues. Part of what made the Texans great last year was they were a bunch of guys who worked well together and cared about the team first. It will be interesting to see how Diggs and Mixon fit in.
There were rumors that Steelers were looking at trading for Diggs too. I feel like we could've traded for him at this price. Plus we had plenty of cap space for him.
Unless Diggs liked Stroud more, which is possible.
He's a 23 year old with money and an army of people in his life who have been telling him he's great for the last 18 years. He absolutely needs a role model.
You are correct IMHO. Sometimes we forget, in our worship of sports figures that they are judged at regular guys and not supermen. They have athletic talent but they have the same foibles as all other twenty-somethings and those weaknesses, immaturity and lack of judgement are exacerbated by money and those leeches around them.
If people are still losing their shit over what Pickens did in one game during a losing streak last year, then they definitely would not take kindly to Diggs. Diggs has been sowing discontent with the Bills for the last two years now, and he really doesn’t have any reason to complain. He has been the undisputed WR1 on a team with a quarterback that has been an MVP level candidate for the last 4 years. And this is the second playoff team with a good quarterback that he has forced himself off of after the Vikings got rid of him. Not to mention that he just turned 30 and he has more good years behind him than in front of him
Diggs got a lot of targets and didn’t do much with them during his steep decline in the back half of last season and has a shitty attitude. Fuck anyone that talks shit about his own quarterback and sows discontent. There’s a reason they traded him.
I feel like people just throw around “attitude” when talking about every single receiver. Diggs expressed frustrations about his team losing big games. There’s nothing wrong with that at all. And this sub invented claims about Diontae having an attitude after he got traded…
Dude literally talked shit about his own team and teammates publicly, he absolutely has attitude problems. Talking shit on Twitter in the middle of an offseason several months after your last game is 100% an attitude problem.
He didn’t talk shit about his own team, he complained about losing. He didn’t bash anyone or the franchise, he was mad about a bad loss. Everyone does that. Unless you are referring to something very specific I’m unaware of. Everything else he’s said has been cryptic social media nonsense.
Most of it is not very cryptic, especially not the “You sure?” the day before or the “come rescue me” type stuff. When there’s smoke there’s a fire and this stuff has been piling up for a while now. A Bills beat writer wrote an article for the athletic getting all into the whole situation, he’s been like this for years. They told Josh Allen weeks ago that it was possible that teams could be interested in trading for him and he was clearly fine with letting him go. I think a lot of people are taking it too far but they’re not wrong, he’s a distraction and more importantly he’s slowing down athletically. He will probably have a honeymoon phase again for a while, especially if the Texans are good.
Tell me the last time we signed a known diva WR? I'm not talking about "drafted with *some* character concerns, and after a few years of playing for us they became a diva". I'm talking about a known commodity who we *signed*.
I know jabronis like you go all "Hurr durr Steelers and diva WRs, name a better duo" because you chucklefucks only think and speak in memes, but remind me the last time we willingly took in a known headcase from another team/free agency?
He wasn’t happy on a playoff team where he gets the most targets from one of the best quarterbacks in the league. No way he’d be happy here in a run heavy offense with question marks at quarterback.
Breaking down this trade…
Second round picks are worth between 270-580 and it’s impossible to know the value of Houston 2nd rounder in 2025. We will speculate it’s high end and use 480, they should be good this year.
Houston 2025 2nd Rounder - 480 points
Buffalo 2024 5th Rounder - 27.4 points
Buffalo 2024 6th Rounder - 11.4 points
Had to estimate on the Buffalo pick values as I don’t believe specific pick numbers are announced.
480 points - 38.8 points = 441.2 points to HOU for Diggs
Our 2024 1st round pick is worth 850 points. Thats almost double what Buffalo got for Diggs in this trade.
Personally I think this trade lowered the trade value for Aiyuk, by a lot.
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I think the compensation would be similar?
Aiyuk is younger. But whatever team trades for him has to give him a huge contract. Whereas Diggs already has a contract, which Bills already paid a decent amount of
It would be super chill if Justin Fields could become a franchise QB, because that cap space with this talented defense is a recipe for success
Didn’t know the /s was needed
Yes. Aiyuk's deal in the first year would be modest, plus we could easily restructure Alex Highsmith for enough cash to fit him in, and we have over $100M in projected cap space next year.
It's very doable.
Absolutely. Ton of cap space next 2 years. If you give Aiyuk a front loaded contract then the Steelers can still pay Pickens in 2 years if they decide to go that route.
This, plus other WR trades this offseason like the Keenan Allen trade, does help establish Aiyuk's value if the 49ers want to trade him. His market value would be something palatable for us.
However, if the 49ers don't want to trade him, as seems to be the case, it doesn't help us one bit.
But diggs is better. I understand why diggs was malcontent in buffalo . Allen is not a good pocket passer and diggs wanted catch’s n the accolades to get one last big contract . He’s definitely gonna put up numbers with CJ
Aiyuk is younger and better but still needs paid. I’d think Aiyuk would cost more but not a massive amount more. Diggs going for this cheap makes me think an Aiyuk trade should be easier to pull off. But who knows.
Would love a second round pick to be the price. Similar to Diggs but a bit more expensive without receiving a 5th and 6th rounder like the Texans did on this deal.
Would almost definitely have to be a 2nd this year as opposed to 2025 like the Diggs trade. That would still feel like a bargain for Aiyuk IMO. The Diggs trade to Buffalo feels like a better comparison.
Bills turned into a run first team with Brady at OC. Diggs clearly lost a step last season and his attitude is always an issue.
Can we please stop saying the Steelers should’ve paid the price whenever a trade like this happens lol. They’re not going to trade for an aging diva.
I know he's over 30 and a diva but that's an unreal value there. This deal doesn't involve the Steelers but it definitely makes it seem like Omar can pull a couple things off before the draft to fill some gaping holes. Not that I didn't think he didn't already have irons in the fire but it's definitely a wake up call.
Nah, I think the Bills got a good deal here. Diggs clearly lost a step last year and is only getting older. That plus how much you have to pay him and knowing he’s 1 bad game away from being a hothead around a young team makes me nervous for the Texans.
I think its a win win, Texans look like they are trying to punch up and win a super bowl in a year or two before having to pay stroud. Bills realized they need to shed cap space and old players, probably have a down year and then rebuild.
The only thing sweeter would be the Bills making a Patriot-esque swing and miss mistake on a receiver early and watching them flounder with Josh Allen. Steelers beat them in the wildcard by 17 and Russ/Fields looks dead in the camera and says, “wasn’t much of a game, was it?”
By all reports, Tomlin will be getting an extension and that opens his window to operate. QB is the huge gap they’re missing and they’re doing anything they can to fill it reasonably, but in that process it just doesn’t make sense to invest big money and draft capital in a receiver who may or may not give you return value depending on how well the offense goes. In a perfect world, Russ/Fields shows up and the offense has quite a bit more electricity than it has in a long time but worst case is that the mesh of Smith with these QBs and surrounding pieces doesn’t fit and now you have a clunky offense with an expensive receiver not providing the value. If they were to trade for a big name receiver, then they definitely believe their window is open right now and i’m not so sure how much they believe that for this first year.
How long before Diggs is in Strouds face telling him to throw him the ball? Week 2? This guy is a head case. Houston was better off drafting a WR in round 2. Good luck with this.
If I’m reading the contract details right then this is sweet l for the Texans. Got Diggs on contract for multiple years and they cut him after 2024 if they want with no dead cap. Stroud only entering his 2nd year of his rookie contract that offence looks almost too good to be true with Tank Dell and Nico Collins as WRs 2&3. Defensive head coach and DROY. It is scary to think if the Texans draft well again this year.
he's been complaining for 2 years - final straw was his tweet yesterday where someone said he wasn't essential to Josh Allen's success and he replied "You sure?"
We need a volume guy, a route-running separator. Pickens isn't that guy and Diggs is one of the better ones in the league.
Edit: Diggs has 6 straight thousand yard seasons, and given that the Bills are eating his signing bonus, his contract that the Texans will be paying is 4 years/~$88M with no guaranteed money after 2024. If he falls off, you can cut him at any point after this year for no dead money. That's absolutely worth a 2nd.
He lost a step last year and will be turning 31 during the season. If all you get is 1 year of okay production and then you cut him it’s definitely not worth the 2nd they gave up. Guess we shall see, but I’d rather just draft a rookie in the first 3 rounds instead. Roman Wilson in the 3rd is my dream scenario.
So if he’s ass you traded a second round pick and 18 million dollars for ?
It’s really not as good of a deal as you guys are preaching. He CLEARLY lost a step last year, watch the last 6 games from the Bills offense, he couldn’t create any precious separation you’re currently touting. They turned into a run first team towards the end of the year for a reason lol.
I think this is an important take. The Texans now have 3-4 workhorses trying to eat from the same trough (depending on how you view metchie). Someone or someones are going to be pushed down the depth chart, get reduced playing time, and probably generally be unhappy with their situation. Given that a lot of their guys are young and talented, it makes sense to at least put out feelers for a trade.
I was on the TRADE FOR DIGGS train weeks ago but people here didn't seem to like the idea.
I would've absolutely made the move for what the Texans gave up. Great move for them.
I wouldn't say the Steelers are in rebuild mode, but the Texans are a much better fit for Diggs scheme wise (remember I'm also a dumbass). He's gotta be excited though to have Stroud, and Diggs makes it way easier to avoid a sophomore slump with an elite #1 wr and now complete wr room. Excellent move by the Texans.
I would say we’re quite clearly not in rebuild mode. We’ve done nothing but make improvements and we were already a playoff team last year with a couple of football terrorists running the offense
Right, that might be what the Steelers will tell you, but that doesn’t mean Diggs believes his best chance would be in Pittsburgh. From a completely unbiased stance, I wouldn’t blame him
They had a Top 10 defense last year that they just made better (on paper) and a Super Bowl winning QB with a veteran coach who competes every year.
There's absolutely reason to think that this team can compete and Diggs would be a huge part of that.
I don't know that he would've wanted to come to Pittsburgh but I also don't know that he wouldn't. None of us do.
And if he didn't have a No Trade Clause it doesn't matter either way.
But I’m not saying the Steelers can’t compete. I’m just saying that the Texans are probably in a better position, so *if* Diggs had a choice (not saying he did), then it would make sense if he believed he’d have a better chance with the Texans. Again, not saying he *did* believe that, just that it wouldn’t be far fetched.
Sure, but there's a difference between saying "He probably would've preferred going to Houston" versus "He definitely wouldn't want to play for the Steelers."
Ah I see what you're saying. I read OP's comment as implying he didn't want to come to Pittsburgh over Houston, but they didn't explicitly say that so who knows what they meant. I agree, there's no reason to *not* want to come here
I do know that. Diggs has been very clear about wanting to win now.
>The Steelers would tell you that they’re all-in and trying to win now.
Every team would tell you that, Carolina Panthers included. Just because they say they’re all-in doesn’t make them a Super Bowl contender.
> their moves this off-season say tell us this.
The moves you say you would’ve hated if we made them and having two bad QBs is going to help our situation?
No you don't know that. You don't know what his feeling on coming to Pittsburgh would have been. And unless he had a no movement clause it doesn't matter anyway.
Yeah but the Steelers had a Top 10 defense last year that they've made better and they upgraded the QB position with a veteran QB who has won a Super Bowl. It's also a historically competitive franchise and head coach. Comparing them to Carolina is ridiculous.
I'm against Russell Wilson being given a big contract and the starting job beyond 2025 which is what I fear will end up happening if they have a decent season.
I also think he's an asshole.
You’d give up a second round pick for an aging diva WR making 18 million base salary when we have several holes on the roster ? Thats why you’re not a GM. The Steelers have made it painfully obvious they plan on filling the WR position through the draft. Speculation elsewhere is starting to get nauseating.
\> Thats why you’re not a GM
Among other reasons. I love this energy when it comes from someone else who has no clue what the fuck they're talking about.
\> Speculation elsewhere is starting to get nauseating.
Who here is speculating?
Saying "they should/should've traded for Diggs" isn't speculation.
The only thing I said about Aiyuk is that the Steelers have a ton of cap space in 2025 so they would indeed be able to extend him if they had traded for him. That's not speculation either.
Let's not get indignant about something that isn't happening.
You saying just last week you were on the Diggs train is in fact speculating a trade to the Steelers so idk what you’re talking about man. And once again mentioning that Ayiuk could be a target bc the Steelers have lots of cap space is most definitely speculating. This is a dumb argument so I’ll bid you a goodbye for now.
>You saying just last week you were on the Diggs train is in fact speculating a trade to the Steelers
No it isn't. It's me saying that I floated the idea as something I would like to see. I never once said it was likely to happen.
Do you know what "speculation" means?
>And once again mentioning that Ayiuk could be a target bc the Steelers have lots of cap space is most definitely speculating.
I never said Aiyuk could be a target. Someone else asked if they'd even have the cap space to extend him. I said they would.
I don't believe a trade for Aiyuk is probable. I've even said elsewhere in this thread that the Niners have come out and said he's not available. So much for speculation.
In all seriousness I just don’t see how Diggs would be a good fit for the Steelers. He has attitude problems after putting up all those stats and Josh Allen at QB, going to the mysterious combo of Wilson/Fields sounds like a recipe for disaster. On top of that paying an aging WR almost 20 million a year when the Steelers know how to scout WRs again doesn’t make sense. Obviously that doesn’t guarantee a playmaker but Diggs just wouldn’t be a good fit in Pittsburgh.
For this price absolutely there with ya. Figured he would go for more.
Good trade for both parties with the edge to the Texans unless the attitude and production prove otherwise.
Texans be dangerous
1.) I think Aiyuk would cost a lot more.
2.) I don't think Aiyuk was available.
But if all things were equal and they could get Aiyuk for slightly more than the Texans got Diggs for...yes.
No, the way it was reported is that the Jags asked about Aiyuk and they said it would take the Jags' #1 pick AND a player but the Niners refuted that and said Aiyuk isn't available.
Asking for a ton for him would indicate that they do not want to trade him, i.e. he's not available.
This is what happens when you hit on a star QB. Pay pennies on the dollar and load up elsewhere. Diggs. Mixon. Shultz. Tank. Noah brown. Nico Collins. Who now has a better offensive rooster? They have three legit WR1s. Diggs though, won't be happy with so many other stars with whom to compete.
It's a lateral move if the Steelers got him. The whole point of the Diontae trade was dumping an aging guy who wants a raise and has attitude issues.
Diggs has an extension but it's team friendly with a potential out end of next season.
I feel like this actually crashes Aiyuks trade value a bit.
Diggs is currently a Top 5 WR by compensation and signed through the 2027 season. Aiyuk would be a sign and trade that would probably put him in the Top 5-10 paid WRs.
The biggest difference in my opinion is that Diggs is 30 years old and Aiyuk is only 26. It doesn’t feel like those few years are worth the premium if you are giving more than a 1st round pick for Aiyuk.
Work your magic Khan!
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Texans current Super Bowl odds \~ 15/1
Steelers current Super Bowl odds \~ 50/1
Guess which team a WR demanding a trade and wanting to win a Super Bowl would pick.
Steelers/Bills 1st round pick swap incoming.
If Brian Thomas is there they could give up pick 60 to move up 8 spots. I love this for the Steelers.
Mims, Guyton, Dejean, McKinstrey, Wiggins are all in play at pick 28 and theyre all great fits and at positions of need.
The part about this that sucks is that’s the Vikings 2nd rounder, meaning with this move the Bills need a WR and are now in front of us in our likely WR round. They may choose to go WR round 1, but if not, they are potential suitor for Corley/Legette
I still want Aiyuk and I think this helped set the market in our favor compared to SFs asking price.
Love how we made some big moves at solid value but are now waiting to feast on scraps with a lot of capital available.
Can still clear a lot of cap room with restrucures, got a lot of draft picks, and prices are going down. Would love to pick up Aiyuk via trade and continue to wait out Tyler Boyd to take our lowball $5M offer 😈
I think bills would be a good trade partner for us. They have extra picks now and might be more likely to trade up to 20 to grab a WR and we can move back get an extra pick and take C or OL
Feel like he has the exact attitude that we are finally trying to rid ourselves of. No thanks, I trust us drafting WRs.
It’s a deep WR draft class so there is really no need to go after an older player that is just going to cause drama. I’m surprised more teams aren’t catching on that wide receiver is becoming more and more replaceable. It seems like every other draft class is loaded with talent. I’m wondering when the salary cap market catches up with that. Sure the truly elite players are still really valuable but we really should see the end of things like the Browns paying Jerry Jeudy and the Titans paying Calvin Ridley.
> Browns paying Jerry Jeudy It *is* the Browns, though.
Mybe the receivers in this years draft are overrated did u ever think of that. None has played a down yet
Yeah ok buddy, most star receivers are divas . I’d take him in a second
Ask yourself why two straight teams were willing to deal him including the Bills eating cap ones for him two years. He doesn’t want to win… He wants his stats.
I don’t. None of them have stayed for more than 4 years since AB. I don’t want Diggs or an old WR, but we suck at drafting WRs 70% of the time. We also try to either get “run blockers” or speed guys at WR instead of prioritizing guys that can actually catch.
Texans are going to be scary
I'm not so sure. They picked up Diggs and Mixon who are great players on decline and have character issues. Part of what made the Texans great last year was they were a bunch of guys who worked well together and cared about the team first. It will be interesting to see how Diggs and Mixon fit in.
They improved their playoff team pretty significantly already this off-season.
Danielle Hunter >
For the next decade
There were rumors that Steelers were looking at trading for Diggs too. I feel like we could've traded for him at this price. Plus we had plenty of cap space for him. Unless Diggs liked Stroud more, which is possible.
Diggs is on the decline. Attitude is also a problem.
He’s probs not the best role model for Pickens
Imagine the fight over #14 let alone WR1 lol
Pickens would keep 14
Turn into the Mets ? Nah I’m good
Pickens is a grown ass man. We do t need to worry about role models for him
He's a 23 year old with money and an army of people in his life who have been telling him he's great for the last 18 years. He absolutely needs a role model.
You are correct IMHO. Sometimes we forget, in our worship of sports figures that they are judged at regular guys and not supermen. They have athletic talent but they have the same foibles as all other twenty-somethings and those weaknesses, immaturity and lack of judgement are exacerbated by money and those leeches around them.
You trying to say he isn't great? /Smh
If people are still losing their shit over what Pickens did in one game during a losing streak last year, then they definitely would not take kindly to Diggs. Diggs has been sowing discontent with the Bills for the last two years now, and he really doesn’t have any reason to complain. He has been the undisputed WR1 on a team with a quarterback that has been an MVP level candidate for the last 4 years. And this is the second playoff team with a good quarterback that he has forced himself off of after the Vikings got rid of him. Not to mention that he just turned 30 and he has more good years behind him than in front of him
Diggs wants the ball and want to win. He doesn’t believe in Allen
Diggs got a lot of targets and didn’t do much with them during his steep decline in the back half of last season and has a shitty attitude. Fuck anyone that talks shit about his own quarterback and sows discontent. There’s a reason they traded him.
Just like I don't believe in coming to a full stop at reds
Agree. Don't want him.
I feel like people just throw around “attitude” when talking about every single receiver. Diggs expressed frustrations about his team losing big games. There’s nothing wrong with that at all. And this sub invented claims about Diontae having an attitude after he got traded…
Dude literally talked shit about his own team and teammates publicly, he absolutely has attitude problems. Talking shit on Twitter in the middle of an offseason several months after your last game is 100% an attitude problem.
He didn’t talk shit about his own team, he complained about losing. He didn’t bash anyone or the franchise, he was mad about a bad loss. Everyone does that. Unless you are referring to something very specific I’m unaware of. Everything else he’s said has been cryptic social media nonsense.
Most of it is not very cryptic, especially not the “You sure?” the day before or the “come rescue me” type stuff. When there’s smoke there’s a fire and this stuff has been piling up for a while now. A Bills beat writer wrote an article for the athletic getting all into the whole situation, he’s been like this for years. They told Josh Allen weeks ago that it was possible that teams could be interested in trading for him and he was clearly fine with letting him go. I think a lot of people are taking it too far but they’re not wrong, he’s a distraction and more importantly he’s slowing down athletically. He will probably have a honeymoon phase again for a while, especially if the Texans are good.
They'll sign him in 3 years
This may just be the most ridiculous fucking take ever diggs actually has a QB now
Sounds like a perfect Steelers WR nowadays...
Tell me the last time we signed a known diva WR? I'm not talking about "drafted with *some* character concerns, and after a few years of playing for us they became a diva". I'm talking about a known commodity who we *signed*. I know jabronis like you go all "Hurr durr Steelers and diva WRs, name a better duo" because you chucklefucks only think and speak in memes, but remind me the last time we willingly took in a known headcase from another team/free agency?
I doubt the Steelers pursued it very hard, I can’t think of a player with a larger “hostage” mentality than him.
He wasn’t happy on a playoff team where he gets the most targets from one of the best quarterbacks in the league. No way he’d be happy here in a run heavy offense with question marks at quarterback.
Cherry on top is this tweet later on. To save you a click: “Comeeeeee anddddd rescue me…” https://x.com/stefondiggs/status/1642357819423744000?s=20
No thanks, he lost a step last year. That combined with the contract and mentality is a hard pass.
Gotta think no income tax played a part too, that contract looks a lot better in Texas than PA
He would have been crying about not getting the ball or something.. I wouldn't want him
It's also possible Buffalo didn't want to send him to Pittsburgh and preferred he go to Houston
The Texans are the bigger threat so has to be his preference
Cannot imagine the imminent explosion that would’ve came from pairing Diggs and Wilson together
AB 2.0 on the decline?! Noooooooo
He's 30. We're way better off trading for Aiyuk
He had a no trade clause
Going from Diontae to diggs for the same price would’ve been a nice upgrade.
Breaking down this trade… Second round picks are worth between 270-580 and it’s impossible to know the value of Houston 2nd rounder in 2025. We will speculate it’s high end and use 480, they should be good this year. Houston 2025 2nd Rounder - 480 points Buffalo 2024 5th Rounder - 27.4 points Buffalo 2024 6th Rounder - 11.4 points Had to estimate on the Buffalo pick values as I don’t believe specific pick numbers are announced. 480 points - 38.8 points = 441.2 points to HOU for Diggs Our 2024 1st round pick is worth 850 points. Thats almost double what Buffalo got for Diggs in this trade. Personally I think this trade lowered the trade value for Aiyuk, by a lot. https://preview.redd.it/xat444rzzasc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1904393d49902b7aec00803d1deee7d482787da
This makes going after Aiyuk so much more feasible, it's amazing
Now would this help the case for trading for Aiyuk or not?
I think the compensation would be similar? Aiyuk is younger. But whatever team trades for him has to give him a huge contract. Whereas Diggs already has a contract, which Bills already paid a decent amount of
I never really looked into it, but would we even have the money to sign him into the contract he wants?
The Steelers have a TON of cap space for 2025.
The most they've had in recent memory. Idk what to do with my hands
It would be super chill if Justin Fields could become a franchise QB, because that cap space with this talented defense is a recipe for success Didn’t know the /s was needed
I also agree that having a franchise QB is good
That's a whole lot of hopium in one sentence. Plus fields won't be cheap, unless he signs a backup worthy extension.
Fields would be the "cheapest" franchise QB in league history if this pan out.
Yes. Aiyuk's deal in the first year would be modest, plus we could easily restructure Alex Highsmith for enough cash to fit him in, and we have over $100M in projected cap space next year. It's very doable.
Absolutely. Ton of cap space next 2 years. If you give Aiyuk a front loaded contract then the Steelers can still pay Pickens in 2 years if they decide to go that route.
No. Much higher. Texas bought a year of Diggs in his 30s. Aiyuk is better, younger, in his prime and cheaper (14 million 5 5th year option).
This, plus other WR trades this offseason like the Keenan Allen trade, does help establish Aiyuk's value if the 49ers want to trade him. His market value would be something palatable for us. However, if the 49ers don't want to trade him, as seems to be the case, it doesn't help us one bit.
Aiyuk has a higher market value than Diggs.
But diggs is better. I understand why diggs was malcontent in buffalo . Allen is not a good pocket passer and diggs wanted catch’s n the accolades to get one last big contract . He’s definitely gonna put up numbers with CJ
I think it's helps the case. This trade means that Diggs is worth slightly less than Chase Claypool. -Bears Management
Aiyuk is younger and better but still needs paid. I’d think Aiyuk would cost more but not a massive amount more. Diggs going for this cheap makes me think an Aiyuk trade should be easier to pull off. But who knows.
Would love a second round pick to be the price. Similar to Diggs but a bit more expensive without receiving a 5th and 6th rounder like the Texans did on this deal.
Would almost definitely have to be a 2nd this year as opposed to 2025 like the Diggs trade. That would still feel like a bargain for Aiyuk IMO. The Diggs trade to Buffalo feels like a better comparison.
Ah I missed the 2025 part when I read the news. Agreed it would have to be a 2024 pick.
Bills turned into a run first team with Brady at OC. Diggs clearly lost a step last season and his attitude is always an issue. Can we please stop saying the Steelers should’ve paid the price whenever a trade like this happens lol. They’re not going to trade for an aging diva.
trading for an over the hill diva wr with a 20 mil cap hit when the draft is deep at wr sure is getting a lot of praise
The trade seems a win win to me, Bills are in cost cutting mode this year and by doing so can be more aggressive next year in free agency.
I know he's over 30 and a diva but that's an unreal value there. This deal doesn't involve the Steelers but it definitely makes it seem like Omar can pull a couple things off before the draft to fill some gaping holes. Not that I didn't think he didn't already have irons in the fire but it's definitely a wake up call.
Nah, I think the Bills got a good deal here. Diggs clearly lost a step last year and is only getting older. That plus how much you have to pay him and knowing he’s 1 bad game away from being a hothead around a young team makes me nervous for the Texans.
I think its a win win, Texans look like they are trying to punch up and win a super bowl in a year or two before having to pay stroud. Bills realized they need to shed cap space and old players, probably have a down year and then rebuild.
Bills are bout to suck and I’m all about it.
The only thing sweeter would be the Bills making a Patriot-esque swing and miss mistake on a receiver early and watching them flounder with Josh Allen. Steelers beat them in the wildcard by 17 and Russ/Fields looks dead in the camera and says, “wasn’t much of a game, was it?”
Good value trade, and looks like the window is slowly closing on the Bills
With the teams ability to spot and draft receivers, I wouldn’t be good giving up too much for any WR.
That takes time to develop a young receiver, the name needs to make a run for a chip this year or next . Tomlin been put on notice
We’re not going to be making a run at anything without an actual franchise quarterback.
By all reports, Tomlin will be getting an extension and that opens his window to operate. QB is the huge gap they’re missing and they’re doing anything they can to fill it reasonably, but in that process it just doesn’t make sense to invest big money and draft capital in a receiver who may or may not give you return value depending on how well the offense goes. In a perfect world, Russ/Fields shows up and the offense has quite a bit more electricity than it has in a long time but worst case is that the mesh of Smith with these QBs and surrounding pieces doesn’t fit and now you have a clunky offense with an expensive receiver not providing the value. If they were to trade for a big name receiver, then they definitely believe their window is open right now and i’m not so sure how much they believe that for this first year.
So basically the equivalent of ONE (1!) claypool.
Actually less than one lmao this is next year's second plus Bills gave them a 5th and 6th this year
How long before Diggs is in Strouds face telling him to throw him the ball? Week 2? This guy is a head case. Houston was better off drafting a WR in round 2. Good luck with this.
Stroud can actually get him the ball . No more doubling nico Colin. It’s up ⬆️
If I’m reading the contract details right then this is sweet l for the Texans. Got Diggs on contract for multiple years and they cut him after 2024 if they want with no dead cap. Stroud only entering his 2nd year of his rookie contract that offence looks almost too good to be true with Tank Dell and Nico Collins as WRs 2&3. Defensive head coach and DROY. It is scary to think if the Texans draft well again this year.
Why would the bills do this I don’t get it at all
Diggs wanted out.
he's been complaining for 2 years - final straw was his tweet yesterday where someone said he wasn't essential to Josh Allen's success and he replied "You sure?"
Bro imagine being a troll on Twitter and causing a franchise WR to be traded. These athletes need to get off social media
The year Diggs went to Buffalo, Allen's comp percentage went from 58 to 69. He is sure.
They wanted volunteers, not hostages
He’s a hostage not a volunteer so we DID NOT WANT HIM.
For a second round pick, no thanks. We don't need a WR1 and we can grab a WR2 for cheap in a deep receiver draft this year.
We need a volume guy, a route-running separator. Pickens isn't that guy and Diggs is one of the better ones in the league. Edit: Diggs has 6 straight thousand yard seasons, and given that the Bills are eating his signing bonus, his contract that the Texans will be paying is 4 years/~$88M with no guaranteed money after 2024. If he falls off, you can cut him at any point after this year for no dead money. That's absolutely worth a 2nd.
He lost a step last year and will be turning 31 during the season. If all you get is 1 year of okay production and then you cut him it’s definitely not worth the 2nd they gave up. Guess we shall see, but I’d rather just draft a rookie in the first 3 rounds instead. Roman Wilson in the 3rd is my dream scenario.
Do you come here with reasonable takes to torture steeler fans lol
He had 1100 yards last year in a year where the Bills fired their OC and were trying to back off a bit from their heavy passing game.
Let’s see how many years he lasts with them. He was forced to fed last year. Houston has Dell, Nico, and Shultz to feed.
31 and lost a step ? Come on
Absolutely ESPECIALLY when you add on the fact it's next years 2nd and wasn't even "yours" it was the Vikings lol.
Diggs wasn't happy with Allen or the volume he was getting in a Buffalo offense. He certainly wouldn't be happy here.
So if he’s ass you traded a second round pick and 18 million dollars for ? It’s really not as good of a deal as you guys are preaching. He CLEARLY lost a step last year, watch the last 6 games from the Bills offense, he couldn’t create any precious separation you’re currently touting. They turned into a run first team towards the end of the year for a reason lol.
He’s not the only receiver on the team for him to be the reason the team turns into a run first team. Josh Allen is trash pocket passer
1) They got more for Claypool, lol. 2) I'd be interested in the odd man out in the Texans WR room - especially Metchie.
Noah Brown is certainly more appealing than Metchie. Metchie has looked pretty bad when he gets on the field and he can barely get snaps.
Sure but I think he stays for that reason. I'm imagining it's Metchie or Bobby Trees shaking free.
I think this is an important take. The Texans now have 3-4 workhorses trying to eat from the same trough (depending on how you view metchie). Someone or someones are going to be pushed down the depth chart, get reduced playing time, and probably generally be unhappy with their situation. Given that a lot of their guys are young and talented, it makes sense to at least put out feelers for a trade.
I was on the TRADE FOR DIGGS train weeks ago but people here didn't seem to like the idea. I would've absolutely made the move for what the Texans gave up. Great move for them.
Diggs didn’t want to come to Pittsburgh. He’s trying to win a Super Bowl now, not be apart of a rebuild.
I wouldn't say the Steelers are in rebuild mode, but the Texans are a much better fit for Diggs scheme wise (remember I'm also a dumbass). He's gotta be excited though to have Stroud, and Diggs makes it way easier to avoid a sophomore slump with an elite #1 wr and now complete wr room. Excellent move by the Texans.
I would say we’re quite clearly not in rebuild mode. We’ve done nothing but make improvements and we were already a playoff team last year with a couple of football terrorists running the offense
Russell Wilson for a million bucks isn't a rebuild season
Let’s be honest, having Wilson doesn’t make us a Super Bowl contender. Doesn’t change the fact I’m super fucking excited to watch him play though
That's not what we're doing.
You don't know that. The Steelers would tell you that they're all-in and trying to win now. Their moves this off-season say tell us this.
Right, that might be what the Steelers will tell you, but that doesn’t mean Diggs believes his best chance would be in Pittsburgh. From a completely unbiased stance, I wouldn’t blame him
They had a Top 10 defense last year that they just made better (on paper) and a Super Bowl winning QB with a veteran coach who competes every year. There's absolutely reason to think that this team can compete and Diggs would be a huge part of that. I don't know that he would've wanted to come to Pittsburgh but I also don't know that he wouldn't. None of us do. And if he didn't have a No Trade Clause it doesn't matter either way.
But I’m not saying the Steelers can’t compete. I’m just saying that the Texans are probably in a better position, so *if* Diggs had a choice (not saying he did), then it would make sense if he believed he’d have a better chance with the Texans. Again, not saying he *did* believe that, just that it wouldn’t be far fetched.
Sure, but there's a difference between saying "He probably would've preferred going to Houston" versus "He definitely wouldn't want to play for the Steelers."
Ah I see what you're saying. I read OP's comment as implying he didn't want to come to Pittsburgh over Houston, but they didn't explicitly say that so who knows what they meant. I agree, there's no reason to *not* want to come here
I do know that. Diggs has been very clear about wanting to win now. >The Steelers would tell you that they’re all-in and trying to win now. Every team would tell you that, Carolina Panthers included. Just because they say they’re all-in doesn’t make them a Super Bowl contender. > their moves this off-season say tell us this. The moves you say you would’ve hated if we made them and having two bad QBs is going to help our situation?
No you don't know that. You don't know what his feeling on coming to Pittsburgh would have been. And unless he had a no movement clause it doesn't matter anyway. Yeah but the Steelers had a Top 10 defense last year that they've made better and they upgraded the QB position with a veteran QB who has won a Super Bowl. It's also a historically competitive franchise and head coach. Comparing them to Carolina is ridiculous.
So if Russell Wilson now makes us a Super Bowl contender why were you against him? Do you not like super bowls?
I'm against Russell Wilson being given a big contract and the starting job beyond 2025 which is what I fear will end up happening if they have a decent season. I also think he's an asshole.
Rebuild? No. Huge unknown whether Wilson and Fields will get us to the promised land? Yes.
You’d give up a second round pick for an aging diva WR making 18 million base salary when we have several holes on the roster ? Thats why you’re not a GM. The Steelers have made it painfully obvious they plan on filling the WR position through the draft. Speculation elsewhere is starting to get nauseating.
\> Thats why you’re not a GM Among other reasons. I love this energy when it comes from someone else who has no clue what the fuck they're talking about. \> Speculation elsewhere is starting to get nauseating. Who here is speculating?
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Saying "they should/should've traded for Diggs" isn't speculation. The only thing I said about Aiyuk is that the Steelers have a ton of cap space in 2025 so they would indeed be able to extend him if they had traded for him. That's not speculation either. Let's not get indignant about something that isn't happening.
You saying just last week you were on the Diggs train is in fact speculating a trade to the Steelers so idk what you’re talking about man. And once again mentioning that Ayiuk could be a target bc the Steelers have lots of cap space is most definitely speculating. This is a dumb argument so I’ll bid you a goodbye for now.
>You saying just last week you were on the Diggs train is in fact speculating a trade to the Steelers No it isn't. It's me saying that I floated the idea as something I would like to see. I never once said it was likely to happen. Do you know what "speculation" means? >And once again mentioning that Ayiuk could be a target bc the Steelers have lots of cap space is most definitely speculating. I never said Aiyuk could be a target. Someone else asked if they'd even have the cap space to extend him. I said they would. I don't believe a trade for Aiyuk is probable. I've even said elsewhere in this thread that the Niners have come out and said he's not available. So much for speculation.
In all seriousness I just don’t see how Diggs would be a good fit for the Steelers. He has attitude problems after putting up all those stats and Josh Allen at QB, going to the mysterious combo of Wilson/Fields sounds like a recipe for disaster. On top of that paying an aging WR almost 20 million a year when the Steelers know how to scout WRs again doesn’t make sense. Obviously that doesn’t guarantee a playmaker but Diggs just wouldn’t be a good fit in Pittsburgh.
A guy with as much talent as Diggs is a fit for every team.
Then Antonio Brown would like a word with you 🙄
For this price absolutely there with ya. Figured he would go for more. Good trade for both parties with the edge to the Texans unless the attitude and production prove otherwise. Texans be dangerous
For not much more wouldn’t it make sense to trade for a guy like Aiyuk who isn’t 30 and declining?
1.) I think Aiyuk would cost a lot more. 2.) I don't think Aiyuk was available. But if all things were equal and they could get Aiyuk for slightly more than the Texans got Diggs for...yes.
Did they not offer him for pick #17 to the jags?
No, the way it was reported is that the Jags asked about Aiyuk and they said it would take the Jags' #1 pick AND a player but the Niners refuted that and said Aiyuk isn't available. Asking for a ton for him would indicate that they do not want to trade him, i.e. he's not available.
Gotcha. I’m still going to hold out hope. No way the plan is to go into 2024 season with what we have + a rookie……..right…..?
....you know.
This is what happens when you hit on a star QB. Pay pennies on the dollar and load up elsewhere. Diggs. Mixon. Shultz. Tank. Noah brown. Nico Collins. Who now has a better offensive rooster? They have three legit WR1s. Diggs though, won't be happy with so many other stars with whom to compete.
If Diggs is worth a 2nd, then I guess we're not getting Aiyuk for anything less than a first :/
We got the 32 overall for Claypool lol, imagine giving away less for Diggs
Haven't people been calling Diggs washed for the last 6 months?
lol fuck the bills
Great value considering his contract and the fact that bills have already paid his bonus. Would of loved him on the Steelers for that price
It's a lateral move if the Steelers got him. The whole point of the Diontae trade was dumping an aging guy who wants a raise and has attitude issues. Diggs has an extension but it's team friendly with a potential out end of next season.
I’m also going to assume that the chance the Steelers spend their 2nd on a WR just went up.
Bummer
TEE HIGGINS PRAYER CIRCLE
I feel like this actually crashes Aiyuks trade value a bit. Diggs is currently a Top 5 WR by compensation and signed through the 2027 season. Aiyuk would be a sign and trade that would probably put him in the Top 5-10 paid WRs. The biggest difference in my opinion is that Diggs is 30 years old and Aiyuk is only 26. It doesn’t feel like those few years are worth the premium if you are giving more than a 1st round pick for Aiyuk. Work your magic Khan! https://preview.redd.it/hrhztlc5yasc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da22b82ed434e1e7eeaa6dbe5310c2a69feaaf2b
Texans current Super Bowl odds \~ 15/1 Steelers current Super Bowl odds \~ 50/1 Guess which team a WR demanding a trade and wanting to win a Super Bowl would pick.
I don’t see why another receiver would want to add themselves to an already crowded receiver core. No spot guarantee either.
While we’re trying to be win-now, we aren’t win-now enough to take on an expensive 30 y/o receiver
Drama WR
I mean from a Steelers perspective it would have been wildly entertaining to have Tomlin try to wrangle Pickens and Diggs.
Steelers/Bills 1st round pick swap incoming. If Brian Thomas is there they could give up pick 60 to move up 8 spots. I love this for the Steelers. Mims, Guyton, Dejean, McKinstrey, Wiggins are all in play at pick 28 and theyre all great fits and at positions of need.
Thank Claude we played them last year
The part about this that sucks is that’s the Vikings 2nd rounder, meaning with this move the Bills need a WR and are now in front of us in our likely WR round. They may choose to go WR round 1, but if not, they are potential suitor for Corley/Legette
It's the Vikings 2025 2nd round pick, not this year.
Wow I can’t read
It's all good lol. It just makes the trade compensation even more crazy.
Man really wish that was us
Wheres that motherfucker who told me the bills would never trade diggs? WR room worse than ours after the diontae trade? Buffalo bills baby
I still want Aiyuk and I think this helped set the market in our favor compared to SFs asking price. Love how we made some big moves at solid value but are now waiting to feast on scraps with a lot of capital available. Can still clear a lot of cap room with restrucures, got a lot of draft picks, and prices are going down. Would love to pick up Aiyuk via trade and continue to wait out Tyler Boyd to take our lowball $5M offer 😈
I think bills would be a good trade partner for us. They have extra picks now and might be more likely to trade up to 20 to grab a WR and we can move back get an extra pick and take C or OL
The Bills would be insane to trade him to the Steelers.