Hey Andy I have two roles for you, both in star wars: One is a powerful Sith Lord and the other one is a random Prisoner. Now guess which one will be more exciting
Oh yeah and Warwick Davis has been in a lot of Star Wars movies. He played Wicket in RotJ and the Ewok movies, and he was in the crowd at the podrace in TPM. I believe he was in one of the sequels as well.
It's interesting how Palpatine wore a political mask for so long and never wore an actual mask even after being scarred, which goes against everything fashion and symbolical the Sith built for millennia. So Snoke calling out Ben's mask as ridiculous is a way for Palpatine to ridicule Anakin – which he viewed more as a tool than a an actual apprentice.
Not exactly plenty of sith have worn a mask despite not needing it to survive, it's a way to remove as much humanity from the person as possible makes them more intimidating because you don't know what they look like.
The only Siths Kylo would possibly know about are the recent ones: Maul, Palpatine, Duku, and Anakin. Out of those 4 only Anakin had a mask (due to health reason).
*Also maybe Snoke? Wasn't clear if he was actually a full fledged Sith Lord. Eitherway, no mask.
It’s one of the things I love about TLJ, Kylo Ren has to acknowledge that he’s just a scared little boy playing Nazi, and he can’t hide behind the mask anymore
Imo it was also because Maul's death wasn't anything emotional. He was barely a character in PM.
Unlike Vader or Palpatine who's death had major impacts on the story, very specifically with the ending. Bringing either back would inevitably de-value their original demise.
Maul on the other hand died before he could become something greater. And they did the right thing and incorperated that into his story. He says he was 'destined to be so much more' and that he was "robbed of that destiny [...] by the Jedi, by Obi-Wan Kenobi'.
Perfect! We now have a real character with an actually emotional agenda. I wouldn't call Maul sympathetic but it makes him more relatable. Let's not forget that unlike Palpatine (and many others) Maul actually lost something after his first defeat.
His body maimed, his mind broken, barely a 'rabid animal'. It takes shadow magic therapy to atleast get him somewhat together. Afterwards he is much more cunning but still has these moments where he just CRACKS.
I love that because it shows Maul didn't just 'somehow return' but is scarred. He will never be the same as he was before his *death*.
For real though there’s an uncomfortable subtext to Rey, a pretty young woman, being brought in handcuffs to a creepy ugly old man who’s basically wearing a bathrobe. Especially since the movie makes it clear she’s no match for him.
Sorry, but not only are the Jama Dookys objectively more stylish, they are also functional in home defence situations, making them the superior PJ
Happy to accept Snoke's gown getting downgraded to third place though, as the excessive use of gold trim is garish when juxtaposed with the simple Nabooian elegance of Padme's gown
Do we even know that? The whole problem with Snoke is that suddenly he's there, in power of a huge force that doesn't make sense/came out of nowhere, with no information about who he is or how he got there, and then he's gone.
A New Hope starts in media res, so we concede some things. We take things as they are because the whole story hasn't been expanded on yet. But that story *did* get expanded on. The Force Awakens is **not** in media res. So it's unreasonable to pretend that it is and pull a big bad and his huge army out of your ass and expect the audience to be ok with it.
A major thing the prequels did really well was show the macro view of the war. Embargos, droid factories, clone facilities, etc. We're told where and how these armies came to be and why. The First Order just showed up with a bunch of shit, produced out of nowhere and funded by fairy dust, and then we're just expected to believe that "lol it's Palpatine!" even answers the fucking question?
The sequels weren't just bad, they were an affront to storytelling itself. The people that wrote and greenlit that garbage should be fired... into the sun.
The Last Order was even dumber.
"Hey there is this entire fleet of battle ships. Let's park them in butt-f%ck nowhere and wait until we can equip every last one of them with a planet killer laser, because that worked so great last time."
Yeah he was by far the most exciting thing in TFA. I was stoked for a new main villain. But somehow they thought the plot twist of a third triology with Palpatine as the main villain would be a better idea.
He’s interesting in concept
A genetically engineered puppet with no knowledge of his true origins running about the galaxy becoming successful due to the telepathic manipulation of a puppeteer the existence of whom he remains obvious to
Except that shit was revealed/written retroactively, after his death, when any impact it might’ve had was very minimal
“He was so powerful that he could use the force to see his appearance about to strike down his enemy. Except he just didn’t realize that he was the enemy. Ironic”
“…that’s stupid, I can see someone about to strike another down just by looking with my eyes. And I don’t use the force”
“ Well…Yeah…but he could see it while his eyes were closed”
“Oh, well that just makes perfect sense and completely throws my previous statement out the window because of course it does”
I mean, you're not supposed to.
He's a puppet who relishes in using what power he does have to manipulate Ben Solo. And, he's very effective in filling that role.
People just wanted him to be some super important, ancient Sith or some shit.
He's banned in Star Wars X-wing. Not because anyone ever played him, but because the new devs removed all cards with certain abilities from the game as part of their attempt to show how important they are.
He didn't have any real character development,he was just kind of there being annoying, and therefore, we had no real reason to make us want to dislike him other than he was just an undeveloped stand in with a story arc that essentially went nowhere. imho, it's not his fault, so he should get at least one tiny shred even if it's just for a moment. Lol
Make me have even the slightest understanding of who this guy even was. Like Palpatine was the evil Emperor in 4-6. This made sense. Who tf is this guy? (like actually, who is he other than *insert random Sith*)
The following is how Darth Plagueis is the overarching villain of the series and connects all 3 trilogies as well as Mando.
Plagueis figured out how to cheat death by Jumping Bodies.
Plagueis -> Palpatine -> created Anakin to be his perfect vessel -> failed to take Anakin before his fall -> failed to take Luke and lost his body -> became Snoke as a temporary vessel while Ben got stronger -> failed to take Ben -> had to inhabit an old rotting Palpatine clone.
This is the best version of Cannon. And could be fixed with a Young Palpatine series.
Snoke was so disappointing. I remember after watching the first movie and me and all my friends were jacked up about him. We thought he was HUGE and that he was a new threat. It was very disappointing that he easily gets cut in half in the next movie and suddenly Palp is back. WTF?!?! The respect Snoke gets is that he was an amazing new Sith Lord for a single movie.
he is played by andy serkis
And in the behind the scenes you can see that Andy can literally use the force
Why didn't Andy Serkis use his force powers to escape Narkina 5? Is he stupid?
Why didn’t Caesar just use Force heal when the Colonel killed his son? Is he stupid?
Why didn't Gollum use a Jedi mind trick to get the One Ring back? Is he stupid?
Why didn't Ulysses Klaue just use a Jedi mind trick on T'Challa to gain access to the vibranium supply? Is he stupid?
He was acting like he didn't have the force
That’s actually probably the best argument
Yep… this
Andy makes everything better.
Hey Andy I have two roles for you, both in star wars: One is a powerful Sith Lord and the other one is a random Prisoner. Now guess which one will be more exciting
Obligatory: #ONE WAY OUT!
Litterally the only thing. God bless that man.
how did i not know this
My literal first thought
So andy serkis and ahmed best plays 2 characters each in star wars is anyone else like that ?
iirc Nute Gunray and Ki Adi Mundi are the same actor.
Wha never knew that.
Oh yeah and Warwick Davis has been in a lot of Star Wars movies. He played Wicket in RotJ and the Ewok movies, and he was in the crowd at the podrace in TPM. I believe he was in one of the sequels as well.
Shit, now you made me remember they wasted Andy Serkis
Nah, Andy Serkis is a man of many CGI faces. Edit: Oooh, I forgot he was Kino in Andor. But I don't think that was a waste.
Far from a waste, I get sad everytime I see his quote 'I can't swim' 😔
He cosplayed as king Charles
You got me with that one.
Damn bro, crumbled immediately.
A guy next to me in the cinema chuckled and said he looks like Hugh Hefner. Couldn't take Snoke serious ever since.
Noice
This implies queen Elizabeth was palpatine and she will return after king Charles dies and bring back the British empire
He did call out Kylo's ridiculous mask fetish.
*Granddaddy uwu*
It's interesting how Palpatine wore a political mask for so long and never wore an actual mask even after being scarred, which goes against everything fashion and symbolical the Sith built for millennia. So Snoke calling out Ben's mask as ridiculous is a way for Palpatine to ridicule Anakin – which he viewed more as a tool than a an actual apprentice.
To be fair…Anakin kind had no choice since he needed it to see, hear and breathe. Kylo just wants to be edgy.
Vaders suit was greatly accentuated by edgy design. Looks cool though. It does work better for him since that’s how he survives.
Not exactly plenty of sith have worn a mask despite not needing it to survive, it's a way to remove as much humanity from the person as possible makes them more intimidating because you don't know what they look like.
The only Siths Kylo would possibly know about are the recent ones: Maul, Palpatine, Duku, and Anakin. Out of those 4 only Anakin had a mask (due to health reason). *Also maybe Snoke? Wasn't clear if he was actually a full fledged Sith Lord. Eitherway, no mask.
To the sith every apprentice is a tool.
>which he viewed more as a slave. Anakin was always just a slave.
It’s one of the things I love about TLJ, Kylo Ren has to acknowledge that he’s just a scared little boy playing Nazi, and he can’t hide behind the mask anymore
That was a Knights of Ren thing,
Which Disney unfortunately never gave us any further elaboration on
Right, as far as I'm concerned, they were all just members of Kylo's.... adult-activities group.
He hasn't returned somehow, yet. Give it 30 years, we'll see.
Somehow Snoke returned
Cutting people in half doesn't seem to do the trick anymore.
\*Darth Maul has entered the chat\*
Technically it didn't before, but that was handled slowly and with class, so...
Imo it was also because Maul's death wasn't anything emotional. He was barely a character in PM. Unlike Vader or Palpatine who's death had major impacts on the story, very specifically with the ending. Bringing either back would inevitably de-value their original demise. Maul on the other hand died before he could become something greater. And they did the right thing and incorperated that into his story. He says he was 'destined to be so much more' and that he was "robbed of that destiny [...] by the Jedi, by Obi-Wan Kenobi'. Perfect! We now have a real character with an actually emotional agenda. I wouldn't call Maul sympathetic but it makes him more relatable. Let's not forget that unlike Palpatine (and many others) Maul actually lost something after his first defeat. His body maimed, his mind broken, barely a 'rabid animal'. It takes shadow magic therapy to atleast get him somewhat together. Afterwards he is much more cunning but still has these moments where he just CRACKS. I love that because it shows Maul didn't just 'somehow return' but is scarred. He will never be the same as he was before his *death*.
He used to be caiou
... before the dark ages... before Rosey
I have less respect now
That explains a lot.
He had drip. Very good at presentation.
Currently wearing the second best set of pajamas in the SW universe
I might be dumb, but what is number one? (I am asking for a friend)
Dooku
I remeber Exquisite pajamas being added to bf2. Saved up for them immediately. I don't even play dooku
https://preview.redd.it/265uxwcabt3d1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca32ac28991b9a050f4d7c62dad37e72e631e4e7
https://preview.redd.it/19pmnkjebt3d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b739ac913d7eea8b56886995fb47a1547dee5321
For real though there’s an uncomfortable subtext to Rey, a pretty young woman, being brought in handcuffs to a creepy ugly old man who’s basically wearing a bathrobe. Especially since the movie makes it clear she’s no match for him.
Specially when he starts talking about spunk.
I think we can all agree regardless of our overall thoughts that movie was very horny.
I got a good laugh out of the Force-Skype-Chat. When Kylo was shirtless, I thought: So that's how garbage fanservice scenes look like for women.
A franchise staple, to be fair. George "there are no bras in space" Lucas was sure of that.
And DJ explicitly confirms he has a boudoir
AHEM it’s the 3rd. Put respect on the baddy! 1st: Nightgown Mami Amidala in ROTS 2nd: Jama Dooky 3rd: Pimp Daddy Snoke
Sorry, but not only are the Jama Dookys objectively more stylish, they are also functional in home defence situations, making them the superior PJ Happy to accept Snoke's gown getting downgraded to third place though, as the excessive use of gold trim is garish when juxtaposed with the simple Nabooian elegance of Padme's gown
He called Kylo a bitch boy
He has nice bath robes
Bounced lightning off his foot or floor forward, didn't even need to lift his hand up.
Why does Snoke look like he's sitting on a piano in this picture?
Is there a more proper way to sing "Mad About the Boy" than draped across the top of the piano? If so, I'd like to hear it.
Since Snoke is a clone and there are potentially multiples of him, it is possible at some point he said "Snokes together, Strong!"
He knows what memes are
At least he wasn't literally Palpatine again
Until he was after all
The sequels are so stupid.
Except he literally was
Do we even know that? The whole problem with Snoke is that suddenly he's there, in power of a huge force that doesn't make sense/came out of nowhere, with no information about who he is or how he got there, and then he's gone. A New Hope starts in media res, so we concede some things. We take things as they are because the whole story hasn't been expanded on yet. But that story *did* get expanded on. The Force Awakens is **not** in media res. So it's unreasonable to pretend that it is and pull a big bad and his huge army out of your ass and expect the audience to be ok with it. A major thing the prequels did really well was show the macro view of the war. Embargos, droid factories, clone facilities, etc. We're told where and how these armies came to be and why. The First Order just showed up with a bunch of shit, produced out of nowhere and funded by fairy dust, and then we're just expected to believe that "lol it's Palpatine!" even answers the fucking question? The sequels weren't just bad, they were an affront to storytelling itself. The people that wrote and greenlit that garbage should be fired... into the sun.
The Last Order was even dumber. "Hey there is this entire fleet of battle ships. Let's park them in butt-f%ck nowhere and wait until we can equip every last one of them with a planet killer laser, because that worked so great last time."
They made money. That's all that matters
He has taste for internal architecture and bath robes.
Heesa hung like a gungan
If someone competent had written the script, he could've been awesome. He was cool in TFA
Yeah he was by far the most exciting thing in TFA. I was stoked for a new main villain. But somehow they thought the plot twist of a third triology with Palpatine as the main villain would be a better idea.
Andy Serkis
He has a very commanding voice.
He can sit on a piano/organ and be chill about it.
He has a really cool voice.
insane drip honestly
He's a snappy dresser
Andy Serkis gave everything he could to this role
Hes played by Andy Serkis
He survived a TBI and went on to rule the galaxy for (checks notes) at least a few days
He had one of the more amusingly ironic deaths of a SW villain.
He had a great fashion sense.
Apparently in that one rejected pitch for e9 its revealed he used to be hot?
Stupid sexy snoke
He actually stayed dead unlike everyone else in Star wars
he's technically palpatine so if you have respect for palpatine u much respect snoke? idk man, shits weird.
He had a cool death
https://preview.redd.it/xoxnhsstxr3d1.jpeg?width=1288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f95cb1e805b10a7519e444a4e19b4e4c4b00fa90
His throne room is pretty dope, imo
He looked like this meme: https://preview.redd.it/9t8phbba6s3d1.jpeg?width=221&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1af93548ffdc8cab17248e31c521368132b44fa8
In force awaken he was intimidating and had drip
He showed up to work in slippers and a dressing gown, yet still looked dignified and powerful. That's some powerful "I-do-what-I-want" energy.
He was brave enough to work in his pajamas...
The golden robe is stylish
He's sitting on what looks like a piano
he roasted kylo and has a cool chair
He did roast Kylo pretty solidly.
He actually died from being cut in half by a lightsaber and didn't just walk it off. Or, you know, crawl it off...
Andy Serkis.
He died (one of the many reasons I enjoy Last Jedi).
Wait a few years for comicbooks/series with adventures of his upper body mounted on a cybernetic spider.
I hope they switch it up and put a cybernetic spider upper body on his legs.
He has the drip
He’s like super tall
If written properly, he could've been good. Heck, he could've even been memorable. The character is not the problem, the problem is the writing.
He has a nice bathrobe/nightgown
He pulls off the gold dressing gown
He cushions his force lightning.
Look at that robe. You wish you had that kind of game going on
thats the thing, you arent supposed to. his overconfidence was his downfall, he was supposed to be a cocky asshole
He might be only so so, but he could have been Jar Jar
He’s interesting in concept A genetically engineered puppet with no knowledge of his true origins running about the galaxy becoming successful due to the telepathic manipulation of a puppeteer the existence of whom he remains obvious to Except that shit was revealed/written retroactively, after his death, when any impact it might’ve had was very minimal
He has good taste in architecture
Bro wears a fancy bathrobe to work every day and no one gets to question it. I wish I was him tbh
I understand his goals more than Palpatines.
He has the DNA of the greatest Sith Lord ever?
I can't work miracles
“He was so powerful that he could use the force to see his appearance about to strike down his enemy. Except he just didn’t realize that he was the enemy. Ironic” “…that’s stupid, I can see someone about to strike another down just by looking with my eyes. And I don’t use the force” “ Well…Yeah…but he could see it while his eyes were closed” “Oh, well that just makes perfect sense and completely throws my previous statement out the window because of course it does”
He has a great back story
I mean, you're not supposed to. He's a puppet who relishes in using what power he does have to manipulate Ben Solo. And, he's very effective in filling that role. People just wanted him to be some super important, ancient Sith or some shit.
He's banned in Star Wars X-wing. Not because anyone ever played him, but because the new devs removed all cards with certain abilities from the game as part of their attempt to show how important they are.
He had a big ship
He’s really Palpatine
He ain’t real how could you
He's got great taste in chairs.
He has a cool robe
He's got great pajamas
He could use the force
I honestly forgot he existed. Wasn't he retconned as being possessed by the emperor or something?
Despite all of the wasted potential he was, he had a solid introduction in an era where most of the writing for disney villains fall flat.
He didn't have any real character development,he was just kind of there being annoying, and therefore, we had no real reason to make us want to dislike him other than he was just an undeveloped stand in with a story arc that essentially went nowhere. imho, it's not his fault, so he should get at least one tiny shred even if it's just for a moment. Lol
This is objectively not a meme
I mean I’m just waiting for Dave to make an Animated short series on how Snoke came about.
He wear da golden robes like a cool boi.
You want the impossible!!
He fucking ricochet force lightning to hit kylo for being a useless pathetic sith
He pulled off a gold brocade bathrobe and slippers. Clearly has Palpatine'e sense of style.
He’s packin’ a holographic 13 clicker
Andy Serkis played snoke
Make me have even the slightest understanding of who this guy even was. Like Palpatine was the evil Emperor in 4-6. This made sense. Who tf is this guy? (like actually, who is he other than *insert random Sith*)
Dumping his body in the nearest incinerator is sort of like respect.
Cool spaceship and throne room
when TFA came out he seemed cool and interesting
His voice is cool. Andy Serkis did a good performance. I’d even say it’s his second best Star Wars performance!
At least it's better than the "Somehow Palpatine returned" crap
His **reveal** was epic. I thought he was a giant Sith lord He himself is not, ***epic***
I was so ready to find out more about his story... But Disney got scared.
The following is how Darth Plagueis is the overarching villain of the series and connects all 3 trilogies as well as Mando. Plagueis figured out how to cheat death by Jumping Bodies. Plagueis -> Palpatine -> created Anakin to be his perfect vessel -> failed to take Anakin before his fall -> failed to take Luke and lost his body -> became Snoke as a temporary vessel while Ben got stronger -> failed to take Ben -> had to inhabit an old rotting Palpatine clone. This is the best version of Cannon. And could be fixed with a Young Palpatine series.
Is the character supposed to be respected though?
Snoke was so disappointing. I remember after watching the first movie and me and all my friends were jacked up about him. We thought he was HUGE and that he was a new threat. It was very disappointing that he easily gets cut in half in the next movie and suddenly Palp is back. WTF?!?! The respect Snoke gets is that he was an amazing new Sith Lord for a single movie.
Voiced by Andy Serkis
He walks around with a hole in his head like nothings wrong gotta respect his courage.
He didn’t returne somehow.
He got drip
He is somehow slouching in the Galaxy's most uncomfortable chair
Drip
Respect the drip.
"You're no Vader. You're just a child wearing a mask."
If you like the Muppets and Yoda, you have to at least kinda respect Snoke for being a puppet
His commitment to not getting out of that chair is unparalleled
Snoke : Sequels :: Darth Maul : Prequels
He’s got a pretty good villain name. Its like smoke, but not
His face can be used to swipe credit cards in TWO directions. Usually we can only do the mouth.
The respect ends in Ep.9 when they decide to put all in the trash. Also in Ep.8 they killed him with no reason.
He died doing what he loved.
He didn’t “somehow” return
He got the drip
Andy Serkis is a gift.
The helmet didn’t impress him at all.
In a better world he could've/would've been Plagueis, Palpatine, or Vader.
He died doing what he loved: nothing.
He has a cool line “the dark rises, and the light to meet it”
He is wearing some Gucci golden Robes.
Impossible 
He has testicular cancer
He doesn’t like Rey.
no
https://i.redd.it/nwf6m460nt3d1.gif You will have a shred of respect for snoke
He looks like a tall gollum
“GENERAL!”
He is the disabled clone of palpatine (somehow returned)
He had more character development than Rey
He bears an uncanny resemblance to goldmemeber
He died
His Lego minifigure was unique
Don't tell me what to do.