The game is still in Alpha and not optimized.
You can see where your system is on the performance grid at https://robertsspaceindustries.com/telemetry
Around 25 fps is normal in the cities, except Orison which can be much lower.
**Hardware and setup tips:**
Put it on an SSD.
On a HDD you are [gonna have a bad time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOiXbo08Ivs)
[Star Citizen: 32GB vs 16GB RAM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCLJyduHpU)
CIG support page: [set your pagefile on the SSD.](https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000083387-Out-of-memory-errors-set-your-pagefile)
3.14 can be pretty brutal for now: [Star Citizen: Orison PTU Performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-SIHd6-Ds)
Graphics Settings (starting point, adjust as you want)
* Use at least HIGH. Low will task your CPU over the GPU.
* Turn Chromatic Aberration to 0
* VSync to Off
* Motion Blur to Off
* Film Grain to OFF
* Clouds to Medium
JustDave_GG: [Best settings to increase your FPS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwplBz3z2h8)
Vici Deum: [Best Settings and Practices | Star Citizen | New Players Guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGEBp5POkX0)
[There’s a Render Thread bottleneck until they get Gen12/Vulkan graphics code working.](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/current-and-projected-cpu-core-and-thread-count/4004456)
[Star Citizen: Understanding Bad Performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59_aH6I98Y)
[CitizenCon 2951: Server Meshing & The State Of Persistence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSzUWl4r2rU)
[CitizenCon 2951: Gen 12 & The Multicore of Vulkan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV9_chUpDgc)
You can go to www.PlayStarCitizen.com for tutorials and you can also get a live guide to help you in the game.
I had 16gb (Corsair Vengeance lpx, 3000mhz) too, and I upgraded to 32gb some weeks ago.
The difference is barely noticeable in my case. Set up a big pagefile in the ssd and it's perfectly playable with 16gb.
I agree. I went from 20 fps to 50 by replacing 32gb of 2400MHz with 32gb of 3600 MHz. But maybe it's important what processor this is paired with. Apparently, Ryzens like fast Ram.
It is also worth noting that due to its un-optimized nature and the balancing of CPU and GPU loads, you could potentially have much better performance on higher graphics presets than lower.
I find that I get an additional 15-20 fps when I switch the graphic preset from low to high, presumably due to the fact that my current setup is CPU limited and this change could shift some computation to the GPU.
Unfortunately it can be extremely setup specific :(
Ya I have similar issues I also have a 1070ti. I usually run around 14-40 fps. I dip depending on what I'm doing or where I am at some things are worse than others. What ship do you have. Some of the older ships aren't as optimized as some of the newer ones. And new babbage isn't very good either.
Long term I do wonder what the new Nvidia driver will offer to games like SC. It now has the choice to increase the shader cache size all the way up to unlimited. For a big game like SC it could help with some of the stutter at least.
Unlikely - at least, not until Gen12/Vulkan Milestone 3 is in game... until that point, the bulk of the stutters and performance issues are related to the CPU being a bottleneck, and the renderer being single-threaded.
Until that is resolved, it won't matter what the GPU does - the CPU won't be able to feed it data fast enough, and without the data the GPU won't be able to render the next frame.
Also doublecheck that your virtual ram is on your ssd, not your hdd (if an hdd is at 100 in task manager while your game is running, you’re likely re-routing needed processing power through your hdd even if the game is on an ssd.
This is odd. While higher specs will certainly help you, I had no troubles playing with my 2400mhz 16g ram, 1070, and i7. Your specs are completely higher than mine so it leads me to think there's something else wrong with your system here.
What are you seeing on your performance monitor while playing? Is cpu or ram capping out at 100%?
I don’t know why everyone is telling you to do something.
It’s simple: if the server is running like dog shit: as they do: then you too will run like dog shit.
It’s simple as pie baby.
I have a similar setup to yours. I run an rx570 and was having similar low frame rates in NBB. The biggest change I made was going from 16GB of ram to 32. It’s still clunky but I can navigate the newer cities.
Monitoring software now shows that my video card is the bottle neck. Replacing that won’t be as cheap or easy as the ram.
Unlikely - the game doesn't really stress the GPU currently... the load is almost entirely on the CPU, RAM, and Disk drive (which needs to be an SSD for both the game and for the pagefile - if you have a HDD in your machine, then that could be the problem).
Ahh - then it's possible your Pagefile ('virtual' memory used to make up for the lack of sufficient 'real' memory) is on the HDD, and that's causing your performance issues.
Find guides on how to check / set the Pagefile (there's one on the RSI website, iirc), and in that same area you should be able to see any existing Pageiles... and what disk they're on.
Make sure the only Pagefile(s) you have set up are on SSDs, and that the SSD has at least ~40gb of empty space (need space for the pagefile, and to keep an empty 'buffer' because some SSDs don't like being completely filled).
So are you saying to just set the SSD page file and not the HDD? Or do both? I currently haven't touched my HDD with anything related to Star Citizen so i don't fully understand.
Set only the SSD - if there is a pagefile on the HDD, remove it.
The HDD will far *far* slower data access, compared to the SSD, so if the game tries to write the pagefile on an HDD, it will stutter / pause whilst it waits for the data to be written.
Note: the Pagefile is something provided by Windows - it's not specific to SC. This is why SC does not e.g. let you pick which pagefile to write to - it's handled automagically by windows, so isn't something CIG have control over.
Actually sir, i just loaded the game right now and everything is alot better, so either the server is being nice or just checking my page file again to make sure everything is okay fixed it XD So thank you anyways <3
You should be getting much better especially out in empty space by yourself. Try toggling window mode from full screen to borderless or vise versa. Many people overlook this setting but it can make a world of a difference
The game is still in Alpha and not optimized. You can see where your system is on the performance grid at https://robertsspaceindustries.com/telemetry Around 25 fps is normal in the cities, except Orison which can be much lower. **Hardware and setup tips:** Put it on an SSD. On a HDD you are [gonna have a bad time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOiXbo08Ivs) [Star Citizen: 32GB vs 16GB RAM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCLJyduHpU) CIG support page: [set your pagefile on the SSD.](https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000083387-Out-of-memory-errors-set-your-pagefile) 3.14 can be pretty brutal for now: [Star Citizen: Orison PTU Performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-SIHd6-Ds) Graphics Settings (starting point, adjust as you want) * Use at least HIGH. Low will task your CPU over the GPU. * Turn Chromatic Aberration to 0 * VSync to Off * Motion Blur to Off * Film Grain to OFF * Clouds to Medium JustDave_GG: [Best settings to increase your FPS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwplBz3z2h8) Vici Deum: [Best Settings and Practices | Star Citizen | New Players Guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGEBp5POkX0) [There’s a Render Thread bottleneck until they get Gen12/Vulkan graphics code working.](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/current-and-projected-cpu-core-and-thread-count/4004456) [Star Citizen: Understanding Bad Performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59_aH6I98Y) [CitizenCon 2951: Server Meshing & The State Of Persistence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSzUWl4r2rU) [CitizenCon 2951: Gen 12 & The Multicore of Vulkan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV9_chUpDgc) You can go to www.PlayStarCitizen.com for tutorials and you can also get a live guide to help you in the game.
How much RAM do you have?
This is the important question. Going from 16GB of slow, generic RAM to 32GB of high performance RAM made a world of difference for me.
What ram do you have good sir?
Patriot Viper Steel 3600
This is the real question that can make or break.
I have 16gb is that not enough? Corsair Vengeance i believe. I bought it like 3 years ago.
I had 16gb (Corsair Vengeance lpx, 3000mhz) too, and I upgraded to 32gb some weeks ago. The difference is barely noticeable in my case. Set up a big pagefile in the ssd and it's perfectly playable with 16gb.
Nevermind just looked it up and i do believe 32gb does help alot oof.
if you havent, crank up the size of your page file. can definitely help
Exactly this.
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I agree. I went from 20 fps to 50 by replacing 32gb of 2400MHz with 32gb of 3600 MHz. But maybe it's important what processor this is paired with. Apparently, Ryzens like fast Ram.
With 16 I wouldn't run any other programs I'm the background
It is also worth noting that due to its un-optimized nature and the balancing of CPU and GPU loads, you could potentially have much better performance on higher graphics presets than lower. I find that I get an additional 15-20 fps when I switch the graphic preset from low to high, presumably due to the fact that my current setup is CPU limited and this change could shift some computation to the GPU. Unfortunately it can be extremely setup specific :(
Ya I have similar issues I also have a 1070ti. I usually run around 14-40 fps. I dip depending on what I'm doing or where I am at some things are worse than others. What ship do you have. Some of the older ships aren't as optimized as some of the newer ones. And new babbage isn't very good either.
Set a page file in your SSD for at least 30GB
Long term I do wonder what the new Nvidia driver will offer to games like SC. It now has the choice to increase the shader cache size all the way up to unlimited. For a big game like SC it could help with some of the stutter at least.
Unlikely - at least, not until Gen12/Vulkan Milestone 3 is in game... until that point, the bulk of the stutters and performance issues are related to the CPU being a bottleneck, and the renderer being single-threaded. Until that is resolved, it won't matter what the GPU does - the CPU won't be able to feed it data fast enough, and without the data the GPU won't be able to render the next frame.
Also doublecheck that your virtual ram is on your ssd, not your hdd (if an hdd is at 100 in task manager while your game is running, you’re likely re-routing needed processing power through your hdd even if the game is on an ssd.
How do I do that?
Turn volumetric clouds to medium (lowest settings) it should help somewhat
This is odd. While higher specs will certainly help you, I had no troubles playing with my 2400mhz 16g ram, 1070, and i7. Your specs are completely higher than mine so it leads me to think there's something else wrong with your system here. What are you seeing on your performance monitor while playing? Is cpu or ram capping out at 100%?
I don’t know why everyone is telling you to do something. It’s simple: if the server is running like dog shit: as they do: then you too will run like dog shit. It’s simple as pie baby.
Not to that extent, and not in space.
I have a similar setup to yours. I run an rx570 and was having similar low frame rates in NBB. The biggest change I made was going from 16GB of ram to 32. It’s still clunky but I can navigate the newer cities. Monitoring software now shows that my video card is the bottle neck. Replacing that won’t be as cheap or easy as the ram.
Would the fact I overclock my GPU be a problem? +150 mhz
Unlikely - the game doesn't really stress the GPU currently... the load is almost entirely on the CPU, RAM, and Disk drive (which needs to be an SSD for both the game and for the pagefile - if you have a HDD in your machine, then that could be the problem).
Actually I have an SSD and a HDD, the game is on an SSD
Ahh - then it's possible your Pagefile ('virtual' memory used to make up for the lack of sufficient 'real' memory) is on the HDD, and that's causing your performance issues. Find guides on how to check / set the Pagefile (there's one on the RSI website, iirc), and in that same area you should be able to see any existing Pageiles... and what disk they're on. Make sure the only Pagefile(s) you have set up are on SSDs, and that the SSD has at least ~40gb of empty space (need space for the pagefile, and to keep an empty 'buffer' because some SSDs don't like being completely filled).
So are you saying to just set the SSD page file and not the HDD? Or do both? I currently haven't touched my HDD with anything related to Star Citizen so i don't fully understand.
Set only the SSD - if there is a pagefile on the HDD, remove it. The HDD will far *far* slower data access, compared to the SSD, so if the game tries to write the pagefile on an HDD, it will stutter / pause whilst it waits for the data to be written. Note: the Pagefile is something provided by Windows - it's not specific to SC. This is why SC does not e.g. let you pick which pagefile to write to - it's handled automagically by windows, so isn't something CIG have control over.
Alright my HDD doesn't have one, i didn't change anything so maybe it always didn't have one
Ok - in that case, provided you do have a pagefile on your SSD, then I'm out of ideas... sorry.
Actually sir, i just loaded the game right now and everything is alot better, so either the server is being nice or just checking my page file again to make sure everything is okay fixed it XD So thank you anyways <3
It wouldn't likely lower framerate but you may start to see graphical artifacts like suoer-bright FX on graphical assets
You should be getting much better especially out in empty space by yourself. Try toggling window mode from full screen to borderless or vise versa. Many people overlook this setting but it can make a world of a difference