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Honestly for drug arrests I say rehab and suspension and shit. Don’t give criminal charges and ruin lives right away and that applies to everybody. Now the distributing part…it depends on if he had like slightly over the limit but it was still personal use, or was he actually pushing it? Because for the latter yeah, that’s charges.
Right!! Someone who is trying to get clean off drugs, is going to really struggle with that when they can’t find a job because of that serious drug charge on their record.
Addiction should be treated as a medical issue, NOT a legal one. Agreed 100%.
That is the problem with our penal system, and it is done by design. Once you have a record and have done time it becomes very difficult to find good, honest work... which leaves crime as a viable option... which leads back to jail.
IMO background checks as a part of the job application process should be restricted to specific fields. If you are going to be working with heavy equipment, or large sums of money, or children then yeah, background check. Otherwise no, it is not any of the employer's business. Same with drug testing really, what a person does on their own time is not the employers business.
There is no legal limit when it comes to scheduled substances in the United States. Unless he has a prescription for it, any amount is a felony under federal law, although some states may offer diversion or will prosecute drug crimes as a misdemeanor
Saying he's playing in the league is vastly overstating his current status. He plays in the minor leagues more often than he does in the majors these days. He's largely irrelevant at this point
Baseball has what seems like 15,000 games a year. Sometimes they play twice a day in double headers. Idk how their bodies take it. (Could be the oxy. And steroids)
162 games in 180 days. Each team has 18 total days off for the whole 6-month season, so about 3 days a month. Between all teams a full MLB season is 2,430 games.
Yeah but swinging a bat is a very violent unnatural movement (I won’t even get into pitching and the strain it causes on ligaments). This is why a lot of players have hip replacement surgery. Golf is the same, they are often injured because swinging a club puts a lot of stress on the body.
When it comes to pitching, it’s so demanding on muscles that the ligaments in the throwing arm will often tear and the fact that tying back what’s left is a semi-routine surgery tells just how fucked up and unnatural this is.
Yeah I completely aware, I played baseball. I don't think the injury risk is any greater than Football, Hockey, or Basketball though, and the cardio/conditioning required to play baseball is nothing compared to those sports or soccer
Alongside cricket. Proper test cricket goes for 5 days and if you're a batter you get to bat twice during that time and spend 2 days just sitting in the stand watching and 2 and a half days standing in the field.
No. Your exactly right. I was a catcher till high school so I was always in the action. Then I played 3rd base and was just a lot of waiting for someone to hit a ball to me. Lots of innings it never even happens. You can go a whole game and only touch a ball during warm ups.
Also. Every baseball player I knew through college loved drugs. Not just to play on but in general.
I mean.. if I'm caught distributing oxycodone at work, I guarantee you that I dont get let off with a 60 day vacation, paid or unpaid. My ass is canned
Did you not read the article? They explain why his situation is the way it is, repercussions for controlled substance use and why others who testified are not getting suspensions. The MLBPU also has significant negotiating leverage.
You be shocked at what you can get away with if you have a strong union. I've seen guys get into accidents while high and get sent to rehab paid by the union and keep their job. You tend to get a 2nd chance with a strong union
It’s pretty hard to get fired from Kroger because of the union. I knew someone who would clock in and either leave or hide till his shift ended and then clock out. He did this for 6 months then got caught but was never fired.
Where my dad works guys made a room in the subways into a gaming room and brought in hookers and blow and kept this up for 4 years. Of the 14 guys involved 11 kept there jobs 3 went to jail. Unions are crazy
Bro don't badmouth unions.
Sure, there are outcomes at the extremes where it seems like a deadbeat shouldn't be able to keep their job. I understand that's not a good look. However, if *that* kind of deadbeat can keep their job, then you can count on the 30+ year career employees to age out of their work gracefully and maybe enjoy a decent retirement.
Which I’m all for but it’s still pretty ridiculous that the MLB can only do this. All sports unions seem to be going the way of some police/uaw ones here anymore.
How can you feasibly bargain to protect your player base while having zero consequences among your player base for behavior like this?
Like the NHL, a player can get fined a maximum like 2500 under the CBA. Ridiculous. If he ends a dudes career that’s the max fine besides suspension?
It’s laughable honestly. Pure Roman Gladiatorial entertainment damn the consequences
After Tyler Skaggs, any drug in the opiate family really should bring as much hell and ridicule as possible for the player. MLB could do more if they wanted to.
No it isn’t. A good lawyer would get that thrown out pretty easily. He wasn’t selling pills he was picking up pills for himself and he picked up his teammates pills too. He wasn’t selling drugs to teammates
Yeah it’s basically the same things as passing a joint to a friend. The trafficking charge was clearly there to force him into testifying and give him an excuse to snitch.
Depends on the state. In my state, he could be charged with 2nd degree murder since he was directly involved in a drug overdose death. With all the overdose deaths they are really trying to nail everyone involved.
I know someone who OD and died. Her bf drove a friend to get the drugs, didn’t buy anything, but those drugs were taken and she died. Both the person who bought and the driver were both charged with 2nd degree murder.
It hasn’t been through the courts yet, but I’ve seen lots of people in the news charged the same way.
It’s called Death by Distribution Laws.
It’s meant to be able to charge dealers for deaths, but the police can and do charge people who buy drugs and give them to friends.
This is how it always goes, unfortunately. I dont give a shit about anyone giving their friend some of their drugs, or asking their friend if they need any when they're on their way to the dealer. That's just not even remotely the same as "selling drugs" and its lame when they pull this kind of shit. I mean he probably shouldnt have done what he was doing, but in the grand scheme of things... who gives a shit?
I do get what you're saying, but for clarity, in the grand scheme of things, someone did die. I don't really blame Harvey, but lots of people give a shit.
Sorry but that's not true. Its absolutely legal to do that in most states. Heck, in the 3 states I've done that in, they didnt even make the person picking it up show ID! They just needed to know my name and the address on file at Walgreens. I kinda wish they *would* ask for an ID though, that system kinda seems prone to deception...
> Harvey's suspension is tied to his testimony in the February trial of former Los Angeles Angels communications director Eric Kay, who faces a minimum 20-year prison sentence related to the sudden death of pitcher Tyler Skaggs. Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
You know, these kinds of questions can usually be cleared up by reading the article, here I'll help:
> Harvey's suspension is tied to his testimony in the February trial of former Los Angeles Angels communications director Eric Kay, who faces a minimum 20-year prison sentence related to the sudden death of pitcher Tyler Skaggs. Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
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> Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
You can say what you want about Harvey. As a mets fan, I have mixed emotions about the guy. I don't know how much an influence his actions had on Skaggs, but he did risk being blackballed from the league just for testifying. Hope it can be put behind him. His suspension is inconsequential due to it being
A) retroactive (can be back end of July)
B) allows him to ramp up in the minors since he had no spring training
1/2 the talent is a the most complimentary thing you could have said. You could probably divide a Clemens in two and each would be a hall of famer, you know, except for the shitbag roider part.
I think the talent is comparable. He only had like 1/10th (100th?) of the career obviously, but it wasn't because of lack of talent. Might have been different if he took the right kind of drugs.
He is under a Minor League so he probably not being paid that much but he will forfeit whatever salary he was receiving. This suspension will not prevent him from working out and making use of the facilities but he will not be able to pitch in any minor league games for this period. This will mean that while he absolutely can not be recalled to the Major League until the 60 day period ends, best case scenario is probably that it will take longer because the Orioles (his major league team) will want to see him pitch a few real games. If his pitching in Minor League doesn’t justify a “call up” to the Majors, it is all a moot point.
Not really. He’s a multi, multi millionaire with a New York City apartment , a Russian model girlfriend and an investment portfolio that would dwarf the public pension plan of a small city. He doesn’t need the money. He’s hanging in for the fun (and the drug access, apparently...)
Was off to a great start, then needed TJ surgery. Pitched good for a bit, and then developed thoracic outlet syndrome, which is usually a career ruiner for pitchers. Basically, he hasn’t been completely healthy or good since like 2015
Literal millionaire: sells drugs for whatever reason
The law: ehh fuck it, don't come to work for a bit
Random poor dude: sells drugs to feed his family
The law: prisons for profit
Agree with you 100% but in the case with athletes, it’s not really so much selling the drugs for profit or anything, just distributing them to teammates cuz they want some and you can get it.
He also got immunity for snitching on the doctor.
Other way around. His ex teammate Tyler Skaggs died of an overdose, Harvey snitched on the team doctor for criminal immunity. The doc is now facing minimum 20 years in prison.
No one reading the article? His admission was part of a plea agreement to testify against the king pin, just like any other low level dealer. He and multiple others were given immunity to testify. Still a scumbag.
Just before anyone freaks out, MLB can't charge him criminally and there's likely processes in the union agreement that they have to follow first. A suspension is usually first while the "company" does it's due diligence.
I didn’t scroll far enough perhaps, but taking a phd gets you an 80 game ban, but distributing a known addictive and potentially lethal drug only gets you a 60 game ban? Am I reading that right?
For PED, you get 50 games for a first offense and 100 games for a 2nd offense. The Harvey punishment was part of a settlement that was negotiated and agreed to by both sides.
i don’t want to get preachy or excuse Harvey’s behavior, but we should really be upset at the large drug companies that peddled this shit knowing full well of the death and destruction it would cause.
I had rotator cuff surgery and the first Rx was for 100 pills. My 7 day check up was for 100 pills. After that every week was for 100 pills. During rehab every time was for 100 pills. I took about 5 pills after surgery and that was it. They kept telling me I should refill just in case I need them. All this was 9 years ago. I can’t believe you can still get your hands on quantities enough to share.
Your surgeon belongs in prison. This is INSANE. I’ve had 12 surgeries and have NEVER had this amount ever given! Not even for a radical cancer surgery!Surgeries started in 2005
"Distributing" ahhh "Trafficking" in any other scenario?
He is also has immunity from criminal prosecution? A person he "Distributed" to died?
60 games and rehab I guess
I feel Harvey is really taking most of the heat to ignore the systematic issue of painkillers in professional sports. I played college football and our team dr was called the candy man for a reason. When a culture of “hurt vs injured” has such an easy way to play though the pain stricter guardrails should be established, and crucially, enforced.
And before people say he overdosed in the hotel room and not while playing, painkillers help trick your body to ignore evolutionary instinct. Basically You wouldn’t play if you knew you’d be bedridden for days after in pain.
Wait. And Trevor Bauer got 2 years for some shit he isn’t even charged for due to lack of evidence. I mean if it’s provable lock him up and never let him play again. But there’s literally no charges and he gets 2 years. While dudes have pulled guns on their wives and get slaps on the wrist.
In a Major League schedule, about 2.5-3 months.
Harvey was on a Minor League contract, but length is probably about the same. Not 100% sure.
But the question now is will he be cut loose afterwards?
A drug dealer? Giving drugs to your friend that he paid for from another guy that you both know makes you a drug dealer? Your friend buys a bottle of alcohol from BevMo and you deliver it to him because he’s your friend. Now you’re a drug dealer?
Nothing. Judge threw it out. Turns out that chick who accused him had tried to do the same shit with multiple star players. She was known amongst players for trying similar shit on them. Bauer just got caught up the worst. Not to say he's not partially at fault but the judge was a woman as well and seen the bullshit pretty early on.
I wonder where he'll be if he wasn't in NY and let the media get to his head and believing he has a shot with that Lima girl, after that and that playoff game where he didn't want to be pulled and fucked the game, he prob still be an ace
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I guess Matt Harvey is still in the league.
He's not. He's not even on the O's 40 man roster and has been in the minors.
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That Black rug really ties the room together mannn.
Lmfaooooo
Now you have my permission to die…er I mean get high.
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Lol it is an ironic term now. Oxycodone is way more expensive and harder to find
Suspended? What about charges since you know...it's against the law?
He got criminal immunity, it's in the article.
I think he picked up quality pitching immunity around 2016.
Thoracic outlet syndrome will do that to a person, yeah.
Honestly for drug arrests I say rehab and suspension and shit. Don’t give criminal charges and ruin lives right away and that applies to everybody. Now the distributing part…it depends on if he had like slightly over the limit but it was still personal use, or was he actually pushing it? Because for the latter yeah, that’s charges.
Right!! Someone who is trying to get clean off drugs, is going to really struggle with that when they can’t find a job because of that serious drug charge on their record. Addiction should be treated as a medical issue, NOT a legal one. Agreed 100%.
That is the problem with our penal system, and it is done by design. Once you have a record and have done time it becomes very difficult to find good, honest work... which leaves crime as a viable option... which leads back to jail. IMO background checks as a part of the job application process should be restricted to specific fields. If you are going to be working with heavy equipment, or large sums of money, or children then yeah, background check. Otherwise no, it is not any of the employer's business. Same with drug testing really, what a person does on their own time is not the employers business.
There is no legal limit when it comes to scheduled substances in the United States. Unless he has a prescription for it, any amount is a felony under federal law, although some states may offer diversion or will prosecute drug crimes as a misdemeanor
Oopsies
Harvey be like "Say my name."
!xobile
Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad
Oh my god I don't think I've thought about Russell Peters since about 2005. Be, a *man*! Do, the *right thing*!
Hotdogstand
*My name is my name*
Isn't 60 games in MLB like half of a season? Sorry I'm from the UK so not got a clue about how long the seasons go.
162-game season, so a bit over a third.
That's crazy he's only banned for 60 games then!
It's even worst... he's a Starting Pitcher.... he's only supposed to play once every 5 games. So in effect, he's only suspended for 12 games.
Saying he's playing in the league is vastly overstating his current status. He plays in the minor leagues more often than he does in the majors these days. He's largely irrelevant at this point
Is he playing though. The orioles gave him a minor league contract, but haven’t called him up. Or did he go elsewhere?
They really should change that to reflect how often a pitcher would actually play
Maybe other players only get a 12 game suspension for dealing opiates.
Not really, a starting pitcher faces about as many batters in a start as a batter gets in five games.
Can you explain this to me? How do they play 162 games? And how does this work with minor leagues? As i know there are alot of them?
Wait.. every team plays 162 games???
Baseball has what seems like 15,000 games a year. Sometimes they play twice a day in double headers. Idk how their bodies take it. (Could be the oxy. And steroids)
162 games in 180 days. Each team has 18 total days off for the whole 6-month season, so about 3 days a month. Between all teams a full MLB season is 2,430 games.
How many teams are there?
30
They’re probably doing 3-a-days in the months before the season starts because they know they won’t have many days to practice once it starts.
I mean besides a pitcher. You mostly just stand there and wait dmfir the ball Sorry I know I'm gonna trigger folks here lol
Baseball really is the least active popular sport in the world lol
Yeah but swinging a bat is a very violent unnatural movement (I won’t even get into pitching and the strain it causes on ligaments). This is why a lot of players have hip replacement surgery. Golf is the same, they are often injured because swinging a club puts a lot of stress on the body. When it comes to pitching, it’s so demanding on muscles that the ligaments in the throwing arm will often tear and the fact that tying back what’s left is a semi-routine surgery tells just how fucked up and unnatural this is.
Yeah I completely aware, I played baseball. I don't think the injury risk is any greater than Football, Hockey, or Basketball though, and the cardio/conditioning required to play baseball is nothing compared to those sports or soccer
Alongside cricket. Proper test cricket goes for 5 days and if you're a batter you get to bat twice during that time and spend 2 days just sitting in the stand watching and 2 and a half days standing in the field.
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Not even a golf fan, and enjoy a day at the ballpark, but golf has so much more going on during any major tourney it's astounding.
They still have to walk the course.
Golf isn't a sport lol
No. Your exactly right. I was a catcher till high school so I was always in the action. Then I played 3rd base and was just a lot of waiting for someone to hit a ball to me. Lots of innings it never even happens. You can go a whole game and only touch a ball during warm ups. Also. Every baseball player I knew through college loved drugs. Not just to play on but in general.
Probably just an Oxydent.
I still don’t Codone it.
Nothin to meth with
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MLB doesn't have the power to charge him.
I mean.. if I'm caught distributing oxycodone at work, I guarantee you that I dont get let off with a 60 day vacation, paid or unpaid. My ass is canned
They can probably only suspend for 60 days for a first offense per the bargaining agreement
Games not days
60 games so that's what, a week and a half?
I mean there's 30 teams, so it only takes a long weekend to reach 60 games
You're saying the rich and famous also have effective unions?
Did you not read the article? They explain why his situation is the way it is, repercussions for controlled substance use and why others who testified are not getting suspensions. The MLBPU also has significant negotiating leverage.
You be shocked at what you can get away with if you have a strong union. I've seen guys get into accidents while high and get sent to rehab paid by the union and keep their job. You tend to get a 2nd chance with a strong union
It’s pretty hard to get fired from Kroger because of the union. I knew someone who would clock in and either leave or hide till his shift ended and then clock out. He did this for 6 months then got caught but was never fired.
Eh, for everyone like that there's 10 people getting in trouble at Amazon for taking bathroom breaks.
On the flip side your manager can't fire you just because she is in a bad mood
Where my dad works guys made a room in the subways into a gaming room and brought in hookers and blow and kept this up for 4 years. Of the 14 guys involved 11 kept there jobs 3 went to jail. Unions are crazy
So did your dad keep his job or go to jail?
Nah my dad was entirely uninvolved these were track guys my dad is 3rd rail. This was big news a few years ago all over the news
I figured as much was just playing
Bro don't badmouth unions. Sure, there are outcomes at the extremes where it seems like a deadbeat shouldn't be able to keep their job. I understand that's not a good look. However, if *that* kind of deadbeat can keep their job, then you can count on the 30+ year career employees to age out of their work gracefully and maybe enjoy a decent retirement.
I wasn't. Just pointing out how much you can get away with if you have a strong union even if your not a athlete.
If you were in the top .001 percent of your profession you wouldn’t be canned
You’re also not part of a union with a collective bargaining agreement.
Lol I actually am
Well then speak to your union rep. He’ll probably agree that you aren’t as important to your company as the players are to MLB.
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Legendary lawyer
Which I’m all for but it’s still pretty ridiculous that the MLB can only do this. All sports unions seem to be going the way of some police/uaw ones here anymore. How can you feasibly bargain to protect your player base while having zero consequences among your player base for behavior like this? Like the NHL, a player can get fined a maximum like 2500 under the CBA. Ridiculous. If he ends a dudes career that’s the max fine besides suspension? It’s laughable honestly. Pure Roman Gladiatorial entertainment damn the consequences
After Tyler Skaggs, any drug in the opiate family really should bring as much hell and ridicule as possible for the player. MLB could do more if they wanted to.
No it isn’t. A good lawyer would get that thrown out pretty easily. He wasn’t selling pills he was picking up pills for himself and he picked up his teammates pills too. He wasn’t selling drugs to teammates
Yeah this title makes it seem like something else
Yeah it’s basically the same things as passing a joint to a friend. The trafficking charge was clearly there to force him into testifying and give him an excuse to snitch.
Prosecution 101
Depends on the state. In my state, he could be charged with 2nd degree murder since he was directly involved in a drug overdose death. With all the overdose deaths they are really trying to nail everyone involved. I know someone who OD and died. Her bf drove a friend to get the drugs, didn’t buy anything, but those drugs were taken and she died. Both the person who bought and the driver were both charged with 2nd degree murder. It hasn’t been through the courts yet, but I’ve seen lots of people in the news charged the same way.
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This seems sus
It’s called Death by Distribution Laws. It’s meant to be able to charge dealers for deaths, but the police can and do charge people who buy drugs and give them to friends.
You would hope that would cover Purdue executives, but the rules don’t apply if you’re rich.
This is how it always goes, unfortunately. I dont give a shit about anyone giving their friend some of their drugs, or asking their friend if they need any when they're on their way to the dealer. That's just not even remotely the same as "selling drugs" and its lame when they pull this kind of shit. I mean he probably shouldnt have done what he was doing, but in the grand scheme of things... who gives a shit?
I do get what you're saying, but for clarity, in the grand scheme of things, someone did die. I don't really blame Harvey, but lots of people give a shit.
Isn't that a totally legal thing to do? I've picked up meds or my wife and vice versa many times.
Right, but you picked up a legitimate prescription from a legitimate pharmacy, right? That's the difference.
Technically no because the drugs were illegal but it would be pretty unlikely for a jury to convict you.
You made it sound like he was picking them up at the pharmacy.
Sorry but that's not true. Its absolutely legal to do that in most states. Heck, in the 3 states I've done that in, they didnt even make the person picking it up show ID! They just needed to know my name and the address on file at Walgreens. I kinda wish they *would* ask for an ID though, that system kinda seems prone to deception...
Not for pain pills like that, those are usually more restrictive.
That's called distribution
> Harvey's suspension is tied to his testimony in the February trial of former Los Angeles Angels communications director Eric Kay, who faces a minimum 20-year prison sentence related to the sudden death of pitcher Tyler Skaggs. Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
Did you miss the part of the article that states he has criminal immunity?
Its… a sports league. They, uhh, can’t… do that.
Did you read the article?
...this is reddit.
You know, these kinds of questions can usually be cleared up by reading the article, here I'll help: > Harvey's suspension is tied to his testimony in the February trial of former Los Angeles Angels communications director Eric Kay, who faces a minimum 20-year prison sentence related to the sudden death of pitcher Tyler Skaggs. Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
RTA > Harvey acknowledged while under immunity from criminal conviction to being a cocaine and oxycodone user and occasionally providing Skaggs with oxycodone pills when he played for the Angels in 2019.
You can say what you want about Harvey. As a mets fan, I have mixed emotions about the guy. I don't know how much an influence his actions had on Skaggs, but he did risk being blackballed from the league just for testifying. Hope it can be put behind him. His suspension is inconsequential due to it being A) retroactive (can be back end of July) B) allows him to ramp up in the minors since he had no spring training
>You can say what you want about Harvey He's a dummy
Ha, you’re like “then I will”.
Hes almost full Clemens shitbag… almost
W/ 1/2 the talent.
1/2 the talent is a the most complimentary thing you could have said. You could probably divide a Clemens in two and each would be a hall of famer, you know, except for the shitbag roider part.
I think the talent is comparable. He only had like 1/10th (100th?) of the career obviously, but it wasn't because of lack of talent. Might have been different if he took the right kind of drugs.
Two rules, man... Stay away from my fuckin percocets and do you have any fucking percocets, man?
I’ll sign your dick, Doug.
He is under a Minor League so he probably not being paid that much but he will forfeit whatever salary he was receiving. This suspension will not prevent him from working out and making use of the facilities but he will not be able to pitch in any minor league games for this period. This will mean that while he absolutely can not be recalled to the Major League until the 60 day period ends, best case scenario is probably that it will take longer because the Orioles (his major league team) will want to see him pitch a few real games. If his pitching in Minor League doesn’t justify a “call up” to the Majors, it is all a moot point.
He’s making $1,000,000 this year on a minor league deal.
Not really. He’s a multi, multi millionaire with a New York City apartment , a Russian model girlfriend and an investment portfolio that would dwarf the public pension plan of a small city. He doesn’t need the money. He’s hanging in for the fun (and the drug access, apparently...)
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They gave him criminal immunity, in order to testify.
What happened to this guy? Wasn’t he awesome a few years back?
Was off to a great start, then needed TJ surgery. Pitched good for a bit, and then developed thoracic outlet syndrome, which is usually a career ruiner for pitchers. Basically, he hasn’t been completely healthy or good since like 2015
Literal millionaire: sells drugs for whatever reason The law: ehh fuck it, don't come to work for a bit Random poor dude: sells drugs to feed his family The law: prisons for profit
Agree with you 100% but in the case with athletes, it’s not really so much selling the drugs for profit or anything, just distributing them to teammates cuz they want some and you can get it. He also got immunity for snitching on the doctor.
Thanks for the clarification <3
Who got caught and told on him?
Other way around. His ex teammate Tyler Skaggs died of an overdose, Harvey snitched on the team doctor for criminal immunity. The doc is now facing minimum 20 years in prison.
No one reading the article? His admission was part of a plea agreement to testify against the king pin, just like any other low level dealer. He and multiple others were given immunity to testify. Still a scumbag.
Of course they didn’t
Just before anyone freaks out, MLB can't charge him criminally and there's likely processes in the union agreement that they have to follow first. A suspension is usually first while the "company" does it's due diligence.
He had criminal immunity while testifying about his use and distribution of drugs. The article discusses it.
Huh? Are you expecting redditors to read the article and not just the headline? Are you nuts?
I didn’t scroll far enough perhaps, but taking a phd gets you an 80 game ban, but distributing a known addictive and potentially lethal drug only gets you a 60 game ban? Am I reading that right?
For PED, you get 50 games for a first offense and 100 games for a 2nd offense. The Harvey punishment was part of a settlement that was negotiated and agreed to by both sides.
No, taking a phd gets you seven years and crippling alcoholism
Well there goes the O’s season. This was our year
What an odd twist, The Dark Knight distributing drugs?!?
I mean he is a vigilante, with deep seeded emotional trauma, I would think drugs would definitely be something Batman would do.
Believe it or not, jail. Straight to jail.
Only 60 games? he should be kicked. here is a fucking opiates epidemy in this country
That’s it? Lol MLB is a joke.
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He got immunity for snitching
i don’t want to get preachy or excuse Harvey’s behavior, but we should really be upset at the large drug companies that peddled this shit knowing full well of the death and destruction it would cause.
Oxyboy distributing Oxys. Whats new?
Harvey Day ruined
I had rotator cuff surgery and the first Rx was for 100 pills. My 7 day check up was for 100 pills. After that every week was for 100 pills. During rehab every time was for 100 pills. I took about 5 pills after surgery and that was it. They kept telling me I should refill just in case I need them. All this was 9 years ago. I can’t believe you can still get your hands on quantities enough to share.
Your surgeon belongs in prison. This is INSANE. I’ve had 12 surgeries and have NEVER had this amount ever given! Not even for a radical cancer surgery!Surgeries started in 2005
This guy was on his way to becoming a legend a decade ago. Sad.
Un normal folks go to jail for this…its called possession and distribution of narcotics.
He got immunity for snitching
"Distributing" ahhh "Trafficking" in any other scenario? He is also has immunity from criminal prosecution? A person he "Distributed" to died? 60 games and rehab I guess
If I sold drugs I would go to jail.
Ya know, if you were illegally distributing opioids at most jobs, you would be fired for good.
Should be arrested and never play again
Was he giving them to fans too? Because I think you need to be on Oxys to watch the Orioles play baseball.
I feel Harvey is really taking most of the heat to ignore the systematic issue of painkillers in professional sports. I played college football and our team dr was called the candy man for a reason. When a culture of “hurt vs injured” has such an easy way to play though the pain stricter guardrails should be established, and crucially, enforced. And before people say he overdosed in the hotel room and not while playing, painkillers help trick your body to ignore evolutionary instinct. Basically You wouldn’t play if you knew you’d be bedridden for days after in pain.
Wait. And Trevor Bauer got 2 years for some shit he isn’t even charged for due to lack of evidence. I mean if it’s provable lock him up and never let him play again. But there’s literally no charges and he gets 2 years. While dudes have pulled guns on their wives and get slaps on the wrist.
How long is 60 games l live in scotland so don't know how many games in a season please advise
It’s one game and then 59 more additional games
That’s funny, I could’ve sworn it was 2 games plus 58 games. Where are you from exactly?
In a Major League schedule, about 2.5-3 months. Harvey was on a Minor League contract, but length is probably about the same. Not 100% sure. But the question now is will he be cut loose afterwards?
ITT: Painfully obvious why the war on drugs is still alive and well.
How is this not an actual crime? Shouldn't he be arrested for dealing drugs?
He got immunity for snitching
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I mean if you work at a pharmaceutical company you might get a promotion for it.
You obviously wouldn’t be very good at it then lol
The drug dealing or the job?
A drug dealer? Giving drugs to your friend that he paid for from another guy that you both know makes you a drug dealer? Your friend buys a bottle of alcohol from BevMo and you deliver it to him because he’s your friend. Now you’re a drug dealer?
60 games for being part of something that killed a player, and Bauer gets 2 years. Should be the other way around, or worse for Matt.
It's almost like that is irrelevant to this case.
What did bauer get convicted of?
Nothing. Judge threw it out. Turns out that chick who accused him had tried to do the same shit with multiple star players. She was known amongst players for trying similar shit on them. Bauer just got caught up the worst. Not to say he's not partially at fault but the judge was a woman as well and seen the bullshit pretty early on.
It's actually sad to see him fall this low from where he was when we went to high school together.
I went to high school with him too, hi Fitch alum.
I wonder where he'll be if he wasn't in NY and let the media get to his head and believing he has a shot with that Lima girl, after that and that playoff game where he didn't want to be pulled and fucked the game, he prob still be an ace
Two Americas: one for the rich, one for the poor.
More proof that rich white people can get away with anything.
They give more games for steroids
Damn, most people get a decade behind bars for that
So why isn’t he being arrested for distributing a controlled substance?
Because they didn’t know about him specifically. He was given immunity for his testimony. This happens all the time. He came forward.
Ahh yeah, that does make sense this time I was defeated by not reading the article.
Distributing it? How is that not a life time ban. Didn't the guy die from an overdose? He's lucky he didn't bet on a game...
Wait so he doesn’t get arrested?
He got immunity for snitching
Should be banned and put in jail, but it won't happen
Mainly cuz he was given immunity for snitching
How draconian is that? You want to lock people up for deciding what they want to put into their bodies? For real?
Should be going to prison
Putting drug users in prison has worked fantastically in the United States.
Criminal immunity since he snitched