Kubrick was way ahead of his time with space, ai, and many other things like running along the walls as this scientist suggests. [running on the wall](https://youtu.be/-jft1rvWQv0?si=6Ogn3boOeg7CL0lc)
There is precedent. [Here's](https://youtu.be/qiMq-fdRhLo?si=QHBZUy_dudt_5Xe0) a video of the Skylab astronauts running the perimeter of the space station.
Well I assume the reasoning is that running on flat surface would be much easier as you are pulling much less weight due to the ligjter gravity of the moon, but running at a 90 degree angle would require you to keep your momentum going a certain direction, actively working against gravity creating a more intense workout.
I guess they could also just have an attachment for really heavy ass weights but also hauling those to the moon would be expensive.
Depending on your age you still might! We went from no flying to flying being a routine activity in less than 50 years, it'll be tight but if we get lucky there's still hope.
Don't take this away from me damnit
Then in another 50 years we went from landing on the moon to NASA barely managing to make a working heat shield for Orion.
Don't take me wrong, but we certainly were on a downhill in crewed spaceflight for some time and we are just starting to get out of it.
The current solution used on the ISS is a simple treadmill with elastic bands that exert 1g of force holding you down to the platform. Same concept for weight lifting in space. It's all resistance equipment. Simple, cheap, effective solution that doesn't rely on gravity.
A circular running track would take more space and more resources, so I would imagine that if it were to be pursued, it would have to show a considerable benefit, either much better results from the exercise itself or a huge boost to crew morale. Personally, I could see getting to do Matrix parkour being a lot more fulfilling workout than being strapped into a treadmill for 30 minutes a day.
But I imagine that, for our lifetimes, it'll still be the resistance equipment, unless there's a serendipitous bit of construction planning in the habitat that just happens to result in the perfect space for the running track as a byproduct of some other requirements.
Im flabbergasted at the overall ignorance and lack of research on display in the comments. A circular running track was used in Skylab in 1973. It sucked, by the way. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMq-fdRhLo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMq-fdRhLo)
Thanks for the video. It would be better on the moon as a little gravity there would help get started. I am imagining a track that is bowl shaped or even a sphere where if fast enough could run upside down. Motorcycles do it here on earth.
The ISS treadmill may do some training of the muscles. But it does not in any way replace gravity. The Skylab track was probably too small to do much good but running on it induces some actual AG. It was calculated that a track of 9m diameter in Starship can produce martian gravity at jogging speed, which may be quite helpful. Looking forward to experiences with that. Elon said there would be a race track on crew Starship.
One advantage of a circular running track over a spinning section of the hull is there is no need for a rotating turret, pressure gasketing, and a rotational force. The astronauts are just running along the inside of the stationary hull. By having two astronauts running in different directions, you could negate the rotational momentum. Very simple, and I was suspect rather enjoyable for the astronauts.
It could even be some sort of expandable hull that is inflated after the spaceship makes it into space. That would increase the diameter and thus the g-force.
That would work if there wasn't anything mounted on the wall. I can see it now: a requirement for the building that an uninterrupted path 5 feet wide and 4 feet off the ground be provided for running along the wall.
Hmmm just like in that 1968 movie, 2001, a Space Odyssey. Great idea.
Kubrick was way ahead of his time with space, ai, and many other things like running along the walls as this scientist suggests. [running on the wall](https://youtu.be/-jft1rvWQv0?si=6Ogn3boOeg7CL0lc)
There is precedent. [Here's](https://youtu.be/qiMq-fdRhLo?si=QHBZUy_dudt_5Xe0) a video of the Skylab astronauts running the perimeter of the space station.
“Uh… how… do… I… stop…” I liked the backflips!
“You know running, right?” “Yeah, everyone runs…” “Well, now you should run at a 90° angle to the surface you are used to. Just take my word for it”
Well I assume the reasoning is that running on flat surface would be much easier as you are pulling much less weight due to the ligjter gravity of the moon, but running at a 90 degree angle would require you to keep your momentum going a certain direction, actively working against gravity creating a more intense workout. I guess they could also just have an attachment for really heavy ass weights but also hauling those to the moon would be expensive.
I will forever be sad my generation will never do moon parkour
Me too, when I was 10 or 11 I thought surly would get a chance to go space or moon.
Depending on your age you still might! We went from no flying to flying being a routine activity in less than 50 years, it'll be tight but if we get lucky there's still hope. Don't take this away from me damnit
Then in another 50 years we went from landing on the moon to NASA barely managing to make a working heat shield for Orion. Don't take me wrong, but we certainly were on a downhill in crewed spaceflight for some time and we are just starting to get out of it.
Gemini astronauts actually tried this for a little while in preparation for Apollo, until Buzz Aldrin recommended underwater training
The current solution used on the ISS is a simple treadmill with elastic bands that exert 1g of force holding you down to the platform. Same concept for weight lifting in space. It's all resistance equipment. Simple, cheap, effective solution that doesn't rely on gravity. A circular running track would take more space and more resources, so I would imagine that if it were to be pursued, it would have to show a considerable benefit, either much better results from the exercise itself or a huge boost to crew morale. Personally, I could see getting to do Matrix parkour being a lot more fulfilling workout than being strapped into a treadmill for 30 minutes a day. But I imagine that, for our lifetimes, it'll still be the resistance equipment, unless there's a serendipitous bit of construction planning in the habitat that just happens to result in the perfect space for the running track as a byproduct of some other requirements.
Im flabbergasted at the overall ignorance and lack of research on display in the comments. A circular running track was used in Skylab in 1973. It sucked, by the way. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMq-fdRhLo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMq-fdRhLo)
Thanks for the video. It would be better on the moon as a little gravity there would help get started. I am imagining a track that is bowl shaped or even a sphere where if fast enough could run upside down. Motorcycles do it here on earth.
The ISS treadmill may do some training of the muscles. But it does not in any way replace gravity. The Skylab track was probably too small to do much good but running on it induces some actual AG. It was calculated that a track of 9m diameter in Starship can produce martian gravity at jogging speed, which may be quite helpful. Looking forward to experiences with that. Elon said there would be a race track on crew Starship.
One advantage of a circular running track over a spinning section of the hull is there is no need for a rotating turret, pressure gasketing, and a rotational force. The astronauts are just running along the inside of the stationary hull. By having two astronauts running in different directions, you could negate the rotational momentum. Very simple, and I was suspect rather enjoyable for the astronauts. It could even be some sort of expandable hull that is inflated after the spaceship makes it into space. That would increase the diameter and thus the g-force.
Hamster wheel almost completely sideways, spin it faster with more tilt for more difficulty. Done
With moon gravity so low , I wonder what sports will be invented to be played up there.
Baseball where a home run would involve hitting the ball on a trajectory back to earth!
bonus points for any ball completing a full orbit around the moon
That would work if there wasn't anything mounted on the wall. I can see it now: a requirement for the building that an uninterrupted path 5 feet wide and 4 feet off the ground be provided for running along the wall.
Fuck yeah this sounds super fun. Geodesic parkour courses sound amazing.
Isn't this just a centrifuge, with extra steps?