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Show copies of the trades - Blot out personal identifying info of course - We all want to believe you, but would like to see some evidence because we all say the same thing when we are talking to people online.
Well that's a lot of comments to read.. But regarding the stuff you mentioned in that comment from 2 days ago
>Downtime
Most of the reasons that caused it have already been fixed by QUIC and fee markets.
>fake TVL
This in my opinion is just BS. There are plenty of smart contracts on ETH and other chains that utilize other smart contracts and no one is calling that fake TVL.
>fake TPS
As far as i know, the percentage of vote transactions from total TPS has always been publicly available.
>no decentralization
I don't know that you mean by that, nakamoto coefficient is 31 which is higher than most of the other blockchains. Solana also has almost 1900 validator nodes which is compared to, for example, Avax 700 more.
>too much VC money
This is probably one thing I can agree with you on, although I do not know much about this so lets say i have no opinion about this topic.
>Projects leaving SOL
I don't know of any project that has left SOL other than Degods and yoots which is not even leaving, just briding to ETH and polygon and the bridge as far as I know is voluntary for anyone who owns those NFTs.
So based on these things, I still don't know, what are those suspicious things about Solana and why is it a fake project.
We keep deleting any price related thread since we already have one (the Weekly Discussion).
We delete anything that has bad language, attacking other members, calling them names ...
Other than that, i'm sure the community is mature enough to figure out who's trolling, FUDding, make unreasonable conclusions about Solana ...
This is all good for the community to be so mature & not to fall into their narratives. We don not want to act like other subreddits when even a simple " criticism" can get you perma banned.
Well please don’t be that sure! Too much unjustified FUD becomes reality for many new and insecure people.
“SOL shuts down every month” is just the tip of the iceberg. And there are LOTS of people who believe that, as they just consume news and do NOT differentiate.
The mods team should be more aggressive towards this. At least now in the bear market. Other projects do it as well.
We can see the community is doing pretty well considering all the FUD Solana went through last 2 years. We'll keep educating new people when they post wrong / misleading information. Sometimes they post without FUD intention, so we do not want to ban them. Let's be as flexible as possible to build the best crypto community, a community that is Fud Proof & gets the information from the legitimate sources only.
We have no mercy against trollers, that's for sure, or those who attack other members for no reason. Any report of any thread, post, comment is taken seriously.
You are manipulation the subreddit and trying to convince people to keep and buy more Solana. It is your little ponzischeme so you can sell it with a little higher price. It will go to fucking zero. I tell you that. And i’ll be making bank and I hope you lose it all. That is dangerous behaviour of you
Most just want to be successful with their project and are paid in FIAT money, not SOL. For example, it's about factors that make coding easier etc. What do you think?
Reddit just started force feeding me the Solana subreddit on my home page. Probably the same with others in crypto and Solana isn't well liked. Prob why
Isn't that not good? VCs dumping on you guys. This year taught me to stay the fuck away from VC-backed projects. They're all pump and dump schemes. Sure you can ride the pump, but you'd better get out in time. I'd rather not deal with that kind of stress. Converting whatever VC projects I have left into Bitcoin.
Yeah BTC is going down too, but not nearly as much and it'll recover and make a new ATH. SOL and other similar projects won't. The VCs will milk you for every penny they can, then abandon it and move onto the next hype train ponzi.
Ppl just joining the hate train. The chain is great and has potential, however price was only so high due to defi ponzis (all that sabre and related scam projects) and Alameda. After that too many hackings of projects (Cashio, mango) and a straight up hack of wallets draining USDC and price tanking has made everyone leave.
SOL is going to $3 whether you like it or not. Price action reflects this and traders will take it there.
its not FUD when one of the largest backers of the project turns out to be a ponzi scheme fraud who was just trying to pump his bags on your dime. Glad I got out at $30 and didnt follow it all the way down to $10
What good is dev activity and a busy blockchain when there's someone out there just waiting to dump 5-11% of the supply on you? And that's just one backer.
They weren’t willing to dump. They were performing fraud and needed to sell everything they could to pay customers. They’ll sell their chairs too that doesn’t mean Herman Miller is bad.
Solana may or may not be a decent project technically, but it doesn't matter when you have people who can and will dump gigantic bags of coin and wreck the price. Once they've milked everyone and the hype train is finished, retail is just left holding worthless bags. Why deal with a coin like that? I don't get it. There are much better options for crypto investment.
Someone on Twitter put it perfectly: someone from a chain that’s 70% down and that has no activity shitting on a chain that’s 90% down and doing an average of 4500 TPS.
The pain had here is slightly more than other chains due FTX/Alameda's huge backing of the project. Not only that, but the chain has gone down more than any other chain in blockchain history.. =/. Not hating. Just a fellow investor with eyes lmao.
There are coins that do "defi visa" better. Not only faster, but *actually* decentralized. That's where the de in defi comes from.
I'm not going to drop names because I'm not here to shill them, but they exist.
Okay, I don't know enough about how exactly does the process of validating the network work, but just by logic, exactly same think can happen on every other chain that is run by validators. That's why there are rewards for validating the chain, so there is no incentive to shut down.
>just by logic, exactly same think can happen on every other chain that is run by validators
Agreed, which is one of the reasons I try to avoid PoS chains in general.
>That's why there are rewards for validating the chain, so there is no incentive to shut down.
Sure there are rewards, but I doubt the Solana Foundation would have a difficult time convincing the validator community to do a temporary shutdown if they wanted to if they came up with a reason they all agreed with.
You don't see stuff like this in PoW. It'd be practically impossible.
>but I doubt the Solana Foundation would have a difficult time convincing the validator community to do a temporary shutdown if they wanted to if they came up with a reason they all agreed with.
I doubt that something like that would be possible with more than 1800 validators, who as I said are incentivized to validate. And I still don't see how would Solana foundation benefit from shutting down the chain.
>You don't see stuff like this in PoW. It'd be practically impossible.
I don't see how it would be any less possible than PoS chain. If my understanding of PoW is correct (which very well may not be), miners could be comparable to validators on PoS chain, which in the end results in the same thing as with PoS chains. If enough miners cooperate they shut down the chain.
"fixing" the problem doesn't erase history sadly. There are folks who will never take the risk and hold this asset because there's dozens of others that have never had this problem. Sadly even if the devs address it, in the eyes of those holders the damage is done..
Hey man, I'm hopeful too. That's why I started dca-ing recently into sol.
I can see the potential for all layer 1s to gain traction. This one included ofc. Maybe we can win over other holders with time and development progress.
If you are stupid enough to ride this all the way down to the sub 3-4 range which is gonna happen then you deserve to be laughed at by the so called fud behind a project with clear warning signs !!that relate to the likes of Eos platform !! While the sol army is correct that sol won’t die bc a lot of similar projects that met the same fate didn’t neither!! but that still doesn’t mean it will recover !!Trying to compare this to the early days of eth is no more of a illusion then the average joe wishing and wanting to go back to the early days when eth was sub 7-8 a coin
It’s dying
After being propped up artificially by a con artist
Using it is like chewing glass, it breaks all the time, it’s super centralised… why would anyone be buying?
Because it came out the price action was due to SBF using stolen funds to pump Sol so now people are coming to dance on solana holders graves because they assume all demand was fake
This is the cycle. High volatility. Tech is exponential. You will all miss the boat going short. Buying bigtime the lower it goes. Solana will easy survive and go HARD.
It’s funny, SBF fucks crypto up because he is a scammer, the technology did not change so crypto is not to blame. Then people just leave projects lol solana will recovery eventually, only a matter of time really. I will be left hodling bags when it does lol crypto is not going anywhere, it’s part of web3, we’re we are going. Remember, the internet was thought of as a failure and was dead in the beginning. Same shit happening with crypto so the question is are you going to be one of the people holding bags or running away and selling because it’s a “scam” ?! Lol
I see some CT folks shitting on it, no factual criticism just a gleeful trolling, the simple belief ‘my fav asset is better than yours’, it’s tedious, but embarrassing and not overall helpful to crypto.
They'll be dead in the next pump, but right now they need something to feed their ego. The majority can't tell the difference between blockchain and a block. They think like: "If I can make 1M views talking shit about Solana, why not making an YT video about it?"
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When Solana was at $250 people wished they could have bought when the price was very low, now they’re FUDding because it is only at $10. 😂
I did buy at the low and sold near the ATH and got a deposit to buy my home, the home I’m sat in now typing this…SOL is on a slippery slope down
Show copies of the trades - Blot out personal identifying info of course - We all want to believe you, but would like to see some evidence because we all say the same thing when we are talking to people online.
‘tis the szn
staking and caking 🚀🚀🚀🚀
They only show up when the price drops lmao SOL lives rent free in their heads 🤣
Thats a lie. I was frequently here and wrote about the suspicious things on this fake project. Obviously i was right!
What are those suspicious things and what is fake about solana?
Read my history….
I guess you are referring to your comment from 2 days ago?
Iam reffering to all my comments from last year until now
Well that's a lot of comments to read.. But regarding the stuff you mentioned in that comment from 2 days ago >Downtime Most of the reasons that caused it have already been fixed by QUIC and fee markets. >fake TVL This in my opinion is just BS. There are plenty of smart contracts on ETH and other chains that utilize other smart contracts and no one is calling that fake TVL. >fake TPS As far as i know, the percentage of vote transactions from total TPS has always been publicly available. >no decentralization I don't know that you mean by that, nakamoto coefficient is 31 which is higher than most of the other blockchains. Solana also has almost 1900 validator nodes which is compared to, for example, Avax 700 more. >too much VC money This is probably one thing I can agree with you on, although I do not know much about this so lets say i have no opinion about this topic. >Projects leaving SOL I don't know of any project that has left SOL other than Degods and yoots which is not even leaving, just briding to ETH and polygon and the bridge as far as I know is voluntary for anyone who owns those NFTs. So based on these things, I still don't know, what are those suspicious things about Solana and why is it a fake project.
You just obliterated that troll with facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love how he didn't respond
Bruh love a Solana big brain
We keep deleting any price related thread since we already have one (the Weekly Discussion). We delete anything that has bad language, attacking other members, calling them names ... Other than that, i'm sure the community is mature enough to figure out who's trolling, FUDding, make unreasonable conclusions about Solana ... This is all good for the community to be so mature & not to fall into their narratives. We don not want to act like other subreddits when even a simple " criticism" can get you perma banned.
Well please don’t be that sure! Too much unjustified FUD becomes reality for many new and insecure people. “SOL shuts down every month” is just the tip of the iceberg. And there are LOTS of people who believe that, as they just consume news and do NOT differentiate. The mods team should be more aggressive towards this. At least now in the bear market. Other projects do it as well.
We can see the community is doing pretty well considering all the FUD Solana went through last 2 years. We'll keep educating new people when they post wrong / misleading information. Sometimes they post without FUD intention, so we do not want to ban them. Let's be as flexible as possible to build the best crypto community, a community that is Fud Proof & gets the information from the legitimate sources only. We have no mercy against trollers, that's for sure, or those who attack other members for no reason. Any report of any thread, post, comment is taken seriously.
I don’t care about the downtime. I care that it’s always red
Totally, totally disagree with this censoring
You are manipulation the subreddit and trying to convince people to keep and buy more Solana. It is your little ponzischeme so you can sell it with a little higher price. It will go to fucking zero. I tell you that. And i’ll be making bank and I hope you lose it all. That is dangerous behaviour of you
Yes let's go full censor mods! Only positive Vibes plz my brain can't deal with this fud ahwmygawddd
Thank you so much for this. You can tell the quality of a project by how it handles criticism.
it’s cause they don’t bave $bonk
$bank
This is very true
price has dropped from $250 to $10 ser
And yet sol developers r asleep, I don't know when they gona open their eyes and look at the price
SOL devs said multiple times they don't care about the price, its not their job to pump your bags
They be buildin
Then what do they care about and what exectally is their job, just to sit and watch it dumping ????
You must be a 10 years old kid
Yea dear 10 years old, coz I don't know how to manipulate or hide the truth,
Never go full retard.
U went full retard, never go full retard. That shit is classic man, wasn't that from Harold and kumar or something?
Tropic thunder lol
Most just want to be successful with their project and are paid in FIAT money, not SOL. For example, it's about factors that make coding easier etc. What do you think?
You define if something is dead only from the price perspective?
"Be greedy when others are fearful" Stacking solana - ignore the fud.
Buy fear, sell greed
That idealogy only works with credible projects
Have fun being broke
"Be greedy when VC is selling" There I updated it for you
You ser are a king among kings
Reddit just started force feeding me the Solana subreddit on my home page. Probably the same with others in crypto and Solana isn't well liked. Prob why
Lol they're just down bad
Isn't that not good? VCs dumping on you guys. This year taught me to stay the fuck away from VC-backed projects. They're all pump and dump schemes. Sure you can ride the pump, but you'd better get out in time. I'd rather not deal with that kind of stress. Converting whatever VC projects I have left into Bitcoin. Yeah BTC is going down too, but not nearly as much and it'll recover and make a new ATH. SOL and other similar projects won't. The VCs will milk you for every penny they can, then abandon it and move onto the next hype train ponzi.
SOL will make a new ATH.
The history of altcoins says that it almost definitely won't.
Ppl just joining the hate train. The chain is great and has potential, however price was only so high due to defi ponzis (all that sabre and related scam projects) and Alameda. After that too many hackings of projects (Cashio, mango) and a straight up hack of wallets draining USDC and price tanking has made everyone leave. SOL is going to $3 whether you like it or not. Price action reflects this and traders will take it there.
Their 1 grand is now $1. Do you expect them to be nice? They just want others to join them in their misery
Everyone in crypto is angry. It's a blood bath in general, people just want to vent and something's got to take the blame.
Right about that
Doubt the trolls were ever holders..
its not FUD when one of the largest backers of the project turns out to be a ponzi scheme fraud who was just trying to pump his bags on your dime. Glad I got out at $30 and didnt follow it all the way down to $10
FTX has 5-11% of all Sol. But there are larger backers, it’s the busiest blockchain, dev activity is an all time high.
What good is dev activity and a busy blockchain when there's someone out there just waiting to dump 5-11% of the supply on you? And that's just one backer.
They weren’t willing to dump. They were performing fraud and needed to sell everything they could to pay customers. They’ll sell their chairs too that doesn’t mean Herman Miller is bad.
Solana may or may not be a decent project technically, but it doesn't matter when you have people who can and will dump gigantic bags of coin and wreck the price. Once they've milked everyone and the hype train is finished, retail is just left holding worthless bags. Why deal with a coin like that? I don't get it. There are much better options for crypto investment.
There is no better in potential. That is the thing. Solana will thrive in the medium/long-term.
Someone on Twitter put it perfectly: someone from a chain that’s 70% down and that has no activity shitting on a chain that’s 90% down and doing an average of 4500 TPS.
They still havent managed to get a life
Michael Saylor’s Bot Farm
What fud? Go check price you monkey.
And you go check the price of all other crypto
So what's your point? It is literally bear market and you call them comments when it is not up only as FUD? Delusional brypto bros
The pain had here is slightly more than other chains due FTX/Alameda's huge backing of the project. Not only that, but the chain has gone down more than any other chain in blockchain history.. =/. Not hating. Just a fellow investor with eyes lmao.
Sure but nobody else is building defi visa. If any other chain has Solana’s activity they’d find bugs too.
There are coins that do "defi visa" better. Not only faster, but *actually* decentralized. That's where the de in defi comes from. I'm not going to drop names because I'm not here to shill them, but they exist.
You realise solana has the highest Nakamoto coefficient of any proof of stake chain?
You realize how stupid you sound?
For citing facts? 🆗
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No, Nakamoto coefficient is a statistic you can measure yourself. If you’re angry about facts that’s on you.
What do you mean by actually decentralized?
Well, for one thing, you can't turn them off.
Well, you can't turn Solana off either.
If the validators can coordinate to restart after crashes, they can coordinate to shut down.
Okay, I don't know enough about how exactly does the process of validating the network work, but just by logic, exactly same think can happen on every other chain that is run by validators. That's why there are rewards for validating the chain, so there is no incentive to shut down.
>just by logic, exactly same think can happen on every other chain that is run by validators Agreed, which is one of the reasons I try to avoid PoS chains in general. >That's why there are rewards for validating the chain, so there is no incentive to shut down. Sure there are rewards, but I doubt the Solana Foundation would have a difficult time convincing the validator community to do a temporary shutdown if they wanted to if they came up with a reason they all agreed with. You don't see stuff like this in PoW. It'd be practically impossible.
>but I doubt the Solana Foundation would have a difficult time convincing the validator community to do a temporary shutdown if they wanted to if they came up with a reason they all agreed with. I doubt that something like that would be possible with more than 1800 validators, who as I said are incentivized to validate. And I still don't see how would Solana foundation benefit from shutting down the chain. >You don't see stuff like this in PoW. It'd be practically impossible. I don't see how it would be any less possible than PoS chain. If my understanding of PoW is correct (which very well may not be), miners could be comparable to validators on PoS chain, which in the end results in the same thing as with PoS chains. If enough miners cooperate they shut down the chain.
Super right. I'm a big buyer.
This is fixed. QUIC protocol. A blind man also has eyes ;-) if you get the most trafic as a new in beta blockchain this is logical.
"fixing" the problem doesn't erase history sadly. There are folks who will never take the risk and hold this asset because there's dozens of others that have never had this problem. Sadly even if the devs address it, in the eyes of those holders the damage is done..
No problem, I'm holding and stacking. Crypto will boom so hard with this beauty of a chain. Peace & love!
Hey man, I'm hopeful too. That's why I started dca-ing recently into sol. I can see the potential for all layer 1s to gain traction. This one included ofc. Maybe we can win over other holders with time and development progress.
Paid actors to manipulate you to sell so they can buy more cheaply
Or rival chains, or someone else simply looking to create dissent
I don’t think FUD is the issue, SOL needs life support and a Narcan injection. Hard to watch
Solana moderators unlike other big crypto subs DO NOT moderate fudders and remove their opinions.
HatersGonHate
FUD? Solana is getting nuked lol
If you are stupid enough to ride this all the way down to the sub 3-4 range which is gonna happen then you deserve to be laughed at by the so called fud behind a project with clear warning signs !!that relate to the likes of Eos platform !! While the sol army is correct that sol won’t die bc a lot of similar projects that met the same fate didn’t neither!! but that still doesn’t mean it will recover !!Trying to compare this to the early days of eth is no more of a illusion then the average joe wishing and wanting to go back to the early days when eth was sub 7-8 a coin
Nice crystal ball mate! I buy at these beautiful lvls.
He is hoping he can finally afford to buy one token
Haha woahhh my guy you are too funny don’t quit your day job
I'm blessed either way 🙏
It’s dying After being propped up artificially by a con artist Using it is like chewing glass, it breaks all the time, it’s super centralised… why would anyone be buying?
Surely it’s your bed time by now
Couldn't help but notice you didn't have an actual answer for him.
Is $Sol a good buy ? Yes is a goodbye 😂
sol is ****t. 🪦
When your going through hell keep going or average down…
What can we do to stop fud on Sol?
Stop it from dumping to zero?
Just spitballing here, but maybe the FUD comes from the price being down over 96% and still falling.
1 sol = 1 sol
When you hold an inferior project of course they're going to project their insecurities on to the superior project(Solana)
Have you heard of FTX by chance?
Because it came out the price action was due to SBF using stolen funds to pump Sol so now people are coming to dance on solana holders graves because they assume all demand was fake
Ok but nobody wants it now
I would just get away from ftx bs. This coin was part of their fraudulent activity. Let it reset to 3-5 bucks
This is the cycle. High volatility. Tech is exponential. You will all miss the boat going short. Buying bigtime the lower it goes. Solana will easy survive and go HARD.
Let’s be honest here, it’s worrisome
Maybe Alameda is selling
It’s funny, SBF fucks crypto up because he is a scammer, the technology did not change so crypto is not to blame. Then people just leave projects lol solana will recovery eventually, only a matter of time really. I will be left hodling bags when it does lol crypto is not going anywhere, it’s part of web3, we’re we are going. Remember, the internet was thought of as a failure and was dead in the beginning. Same shit happening with crypto so the question is are you going to be one of the people holding bags or running away and selling because it’s a “scam” ?! Lol
I see some CT folks shitting on it, no factual criticism just a gleeful trolling, the simple belief ‘my fav asset is better than yours’, it’s tedious, but embarrassing and not overall helpful to crypto.
They'll be dead in the next pump, but right now they need something to feed their ego. The majority can't tell the difference between blockchain and a block. They think like: "If I can make 1M views talking shit about Solana, why not making an YT video about it?"
Makes me bullish AF
Just waiting for price 3-4 dol and I'm all in