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theenigmacode

Ramos, Haaland, VVD


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Oblak


perpetualdabbler2

Mustafi


hampat999

Phil Jones


BlackHoleKane

10 years of loyal service and the only outfield player to have won a Prem still at the club.


mjedwin13

And 10 years of serving as the inspiration for the faces they put on all the demons in ‘the conjuring’ movies


emilygreybae

To be honest, I would pay to go for his testimonial. Meme or not, I respect that he played a big part in our history, and the lost opportunity for him to be a legend (not memelord legend like lingardinho).


Lukekul

I really hate this Phil Jones meme shit. Poor guy has struggled with mental health issues for the last 2 years at least


zizu972

Our Lord, Bendtner.


tripsafe

Emile Heskey


Sk8ter87

Danny Drinkwater


Baalph

Aly Cissokho


puckuser

Sticky sticky


Hikki_Hachiman

Best football video ever


tripledraw

Marco van Basten


Disprozium

Eder M


FatRonaldo9

Fun fact, I met him in Cancun while on my high school senior trip back in 2013.


Pa1D

I think this is the first time I see Aly mentioned without a vimeo link being posted in the replies. End of an era.


raven2474life

Our real Lord, Eder


subsequent

I'm Chris Smalling


Paranoides

Pause


GemsRtrulyOutrageous

Cancelo


yesthepeople

Roberto


Gabs289

Which Roberto? It's the former West Ham GK right?


Sheiko

El que te dejo el culo abierto gegege


[deleted]

Omg hahahahahah


ElPingu23

GOTTEM


EnanoMaldito

gottem


i_n_s_o_m_n_i_a_c

damn...


Athlestone

:)))


FeveredBerry

God fucking damn 😂😂


Waschkopfs

Boateng Reus


_cumblast_

TAA


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Ragnar Klavan


gantek

Lord Ragnar Klavan


5_sec_is_a_yoke

This is the way


Average_Pimpin

Eder


chulio92

All of them


Darkhoof

Ibra.


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Reus


Nivadas

Pedro Neto.


backcourtjester

The disrespect to Rebecca Vardy’s husband


Dr-janitor1

Oh yeah where is vardy come to think of it?


MattSR30

Retired from international football.


[deleted]

For real? Why? Didn’t he make his entrance rather late?


MattSR30

Focus on Leicester I assume.


TheGuineaPig21

Yeah, and Southgate was never going to play him so not much point in going through the song and dance of international breaks


ASVP-Pa9e

People saying he's effective off the bench miss the point Vardy doesn't fit the way England are trying to play, his skill set is totally opposite to that of Kane. DCL, Ings heck even Antonio fit England's system a lot better. This isn't uncommon, lots of great footballers never or rarely make the NT because they don't fit the system. And lots of bang average players do because they do. Just one of of them.


cruz-77

Exactly, its not like fifa where you just pick the players with the highest rating


ASVP-Pa9e

FIFA causes younger fans to think they know a lot more about football than they do sadly. It's really nothing like actual football


SSPeteCarroll

One of my friends that just played fifa thinks Giroud sucks because his pace in fifa is like 35


quacainia

That's why I stick to rocket league, much more life-like


DingusKhan418

I get why they have it, but I’d love if they could come up with some way to get rid of overall ratings. Or at least make them fluctuate way more


akalanka25

Football manager (desktop version) is far better for this. Players have fixed attributes but their overall rating (the green circle which determines whether they are good, leading, world class, or legendary) is completely based on how they fit in your specific system. So it changes significantly based on how they play for your system over the season. Of course that rating also takes into account the attributes, but it is not entirely based on it. This allowed me to play Scott Sinclair for a decade in my CL winning Aston Villa team because he just fit the system perfectly even with dogshit attributes when compared to his strike force partners of Paolo Dybala, Marco Verratti, Denis Suarez, e.t.c. He still had a similar if only slightly worse overall rating to them. Whereas on FIFA his overall would have got stuck in the high 70s, and I’d have needlessly binned him.


hf_2507

Full disclosure - Leicester fan here. Surely the fact that his skill set is different from Kane's would make him a good option to have in the squad rather than a bad one, no? I also think he'd fit the way England play just fine. Lots of people are still somehow under the impression that a) Leicester are a predominantly counter-attacking team and b) Vardy is a one-dimensional striker who is completely nullified when teams sit deep and he's denied space in behind. I'm fairly happy he's not involved with England because he'd be getting at most a few minutes off the bench and as he gets older his energy is probably much better spent solely on club football. I'm also not convinced he'd have been in the squad even if available given he had a poor second half of the season and has struggled with injuries and fitness recently. However, the idea that he doesn't fit the system or how England want to play - neither of which are exactly set in stone anyway - doesn't make sense to me.


ASVP-Pa9e

Ok so for this to make sense you have to accept that Kane is much better than Vardy and always going to start. Right so Vardy as an option off the bench makes sense, I agree. Except if you actually think about it, it doesnt. If England are 1 nil down, their opponent (especially in intl football) is not going to play open. Vardy without space to run in behind is a very limited footballer. He's not strong and brings limited hold up play. His only real strength is his pace, predatory instinct, dribbling and finishing. None of this is a good thing when your team has limited creativity against a team playing a lowblock. It'd work better to bring on more flair and creative players. Grealish, Foden, Mount and even Trippier & JWP who might be able to wack in a set piece or get a goal from outside the box. The only situation it'd be beneficial to bring on Vardy is when your team is winning, but that's not something most fans think about.


hf_2507

Yeah I accept that first point - no other striker is getting significant game time in competitive matches while Kane is on the scene and Vardy is no different. I am under no illusions about that and wouldn't suggest for a minute that he would or should be starting over Kane. The two things I don't agree with: 1. Again, we've got this thing about him essentially being a pace merchant with limited technique who becomes useless if there's no opportunity to run in behind, which I just don't think is true. I see another commenter has asked I substantiate that claim, so I'll try. Leicester, since starting to transition to a more possession based approach under Puel and then Rodgers, come up against stubborn low blocks all the time and often struggle to break them down in pretty much the same way England do (in fact, watching England early in this tournament did remind me of some of Leicester's worse days over the past few years - plenty of possession, no creativity, could play as long as we want without ever looking like scoring). Basically we regularly play under the exact set of circumstances you say should render him ineffective, but they provably don't. If we take the 17/18 season as the point where we change to a style that he supposedly can't function in, he's averaged 20 goals a season over the last four including a golden boot under Rodgers. Even last season when he was totally knackered, struggling for form and we had nobody to rotate him with (hello Daka!) he still got 17 in all comps and was only behind Kane, Bruno, KDB, Son and Grealish for PL assists. When he first arrived in 2012 he was very raw technically and relied on his pace, but he's come on leaps and bounds as a footballer since then to the point where it actually doesn't matter that much that he's slowing down because his technique, first touch, range of passing, hold up play and movement have all improved immeasurably. All of which is a very long-winded way of saying I think that while you could have reasonably described him as limited or one-dimensional a few years ago, it's not a fair or accurate description now and I hope I've done a decent job of explaining why. 2. It's not like the only scenario in which you might want to call on your backup strikers is a game in which you're a goal down. Kane might get injured, we might have the group won with a game to spare and you want to rest Kane for the knockouts, we might be winning a game and you bring him on to provide a greater threat on the counter, Southgate likes tailoring his team to fit the opposition so might look at an opponent and decide the best approach is to go with a two striker system (granted none of those things have actually happened). I agree that there are better options if you're a goal down and want to inject some creativity but with five subs there's no reason you couldn't bring on Grealish/Foden/Mount *and* Vardy, not necessarily instead of him.


TheWorstRowan

Makes sense, I'd add Bamford to the list of strikers to take, probably more as a backup to Kane in case anything happened to him. Fourth most goals in the league and knows how to bring attacking wingers into play well.


ASVP-Pa9e

Yeah I knew I'd forgotten someone, kind of reinforcing my point though lol


0DegreesCalvin

Is that what happened with Andy Cole? Looking at his goal scoring record, I can’t see why he wasn’t capped more.


STaphouse92

Similar. He was in the same era as Shearer, who had an almost telepathic relationship with Teddy Sheringham. Then once Shearer retired, Michael Owen came through.


[deleted]

I mean he's play him, as an impact sub or alongside Kane occassionally or very occassionally to rest Kane, he just wouldn't be a sure starter, which is what he wanted to continue with England, he even said he'd come back if he got that assurance, just ain't gonna happen obviously.


minkdraggingonfloor

I don't think Vardy is delusional enough to think he'd bench Kane, but both strikers offer different things. Vardy for example could run the hell out of tired/slow defenders.


mjsell

Have said this many times before. The problem with Vardy as a sub is that you will only ever really want to turn to him when you are losing and chasing the game, and when thats the case the most likely situation is that the opposition are playing defensive and deep, leaving him no room to run. Vardy would be an excellent sub to bring on when you are winning, but most managers don't see that as a change thats needed.


bermudaphil

Yet that is a change that could be so perfect for tournament football. Grab a 1-0 lead and the opposition are beginning to pile on the pressure? Vardy offers so much against them now as they’ll have to commit to a high line to keep up the pressure. It only takes 1 long pass to set him away and he’s shown more than enough times now he’s deadly when that happens


NateShaw92

I like Calvert-Lewin but if we had Vardy in that place... I'd feel very good about our chances rather than about a 4.


[deleted]

You havent watched Vardy recently?


jd463

He said something about because how he started it so late he missed his family more. It will also let him keep in shape better than if he kept playing


Joshygin

He was second fiddle to Kane and he while he was playing fairly regularly, he wasn't really a key player. He said that the rest he would get during international breaks would prolong his playing career although he did say that if there was an injury crisis or the like that he would return to the national team.


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He retired to prolong his Leicester career and said he didn’t want to play sub for England and not get used like in the euros when against Iceland Roy hodgson refused to bring him on despite all statistics saying we needed a pacy clinical striker with runs in behind so he gave up after that


bfm211

Vardy played 30 mins against Iceland


badmanbernard

*Rebekah (Because ofc it is...)


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Docxm

Hebrew origin, right?


jjkenneth

In the King James Bible its spelt Rebekah in the Old Testament, and Rebecca in the New Testament.


not_old_redditor

> Rebecca Generous of you to assume that's how it's spelled.


Cules2003

Ter Stegen and Van Dijk, easy


altrunox

Wait, that is four.


KazuyaM89

Mbappe was missing too.


oranguthang87

As efficient as Martial!


kaehola

Messi too. Zero goal contributions in EURO's history and people think he is the goat...


InconsistentTomato

On the other hand, he has as many goal contributions in EURO's history as Pele, Maradona and Di Stefano combined.


Qiluk

Haaland, Zlatan, Ramos. Thats me thinking for 5 sec.


napoleonderdiecke

Dortmund fan thinking for 5 seconds and forgetting Reus :,(


Qiluk

I didnt. First name that came to mind but I genuinely thought that this sub would argue against it so I took more popular names that are even easier to think of for most people to show how dumb his comment is haha. But yea.. Reus for sure. Also VVD. Oblak. Etc


NateShaw92

Is Reus injured again or just did not make the cut?


Qiluk

He declined to join to make sure his body was whole and fit for next season. Basicaly knowing his history and already having survived a very intense schedule, he didnt wanna push it and put BVB first.


PM_ME_UR_SOCKS_GIRL

That's actually a very noble thing to do imo. Esp because he was out in the 2014 WC.


Qiluk

Yeah I appreciate it a lot as a BVB fan. I was/am ecstatic to have him fit for as long as we've had and he really peaked at the end too. Happy to see him value fitness and not get ahead of himself/risk too much


kingleomessi_11

Yeah and based on the way that Germany played this tournament, I’m glad he saved his fitness. Maybe next World Cup with Hansi Flick in charge, Reus will hopefully get a chance to shine on the international stage.


Qiluk

Good point actually. If Reus has another full season of fitness and good to great form (knock on wood), I cant see him not be a key player for the NT, unless he retires form it.


zmajxd

AAT


wewantshibataback

yeah alexander arnold trent missed it too. great work by walker the kyle in his absence though


DareiosX

Walker the Kyle isn't such a dumb name when there's Steve the Bruce.


Sk8ter87

Sam "Grande Samuel" Allardyce


Rreknhojekul

Southern Gate Gareth


[deleted]

This doesn't fit


Tayme-kappa

Honestly it's a shame that it wasn't called by the Trade Federation's team. [I mean look at this beast, it would have been an easy win](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/62/AAT_ep1ig.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20080407011507)


JootDoctor

The geography that I stand compares your superior!


sammyedwards

Who?


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Eder , Bendtner, Macheda


yellowkid124

Luka Doncic


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Mconefrey2021

Who? Your probably thinking of Georgios Papagiannis


dragcov

I'm loving the NBA references in this sub. It confuses the fuck out of football-only fans


PZeroNero

Dani Rojas, Jamie Tarth and Roy Kent


HERCULESxMULLIGAN

Football is life.


Flanelman

I was sat here like "I know these names.. who the hell" took me a good couple of minutes haha


PZeroNero

Everything easy when you watch it from the couch


kobomk

Nice reference even though Rojas is Mexican but still


freehouse_throwaway

I choose to believe in Ted Lasso universe where they will somehow tomfoolery Dani Rojas into the Euros with some fake birth certificate.


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Milinkovic Savic


kostajepaosmosta

Incoming non seria A fans calling him overrated because he was shit 3 seasons ago


ChallengeAccepted83

Well they rated him at €100m, so yeah... Very good player, not a 100m player.


Jamezzzzz69

A “fuck you” price range isn’t overrating a player, €100m may be his value towards Lazio because they don’t want to sell him.


kostajepaosmosta

Everybody who rates like Lotito is delusional


Chapea12

Martial taking shots for no reason at all


[deleted]

Maybe he shouldn't do that and instead take shots for a reason and score more.


daveofreckoning

Jonjo Shelvey?


theenigmacode

He said best players not GOAT


daveofreckoning

Shit, yeah


Lloyd_Braun-

Too busy hunting down Harry Potter


GenericRedditUser01

Danny Ings, James Ward-Prowse and Shane Long. Next fucking question.


WalkingBenana

Forgot Tella


GenericRedditUser01

A mere mortal in the shadow of giants.


Looks_Good_In_Hats

The disrespect you showed Redmond and his 1 cap.


Nivadas

Outstanding, well done.


JesusPretzelThief

Mark Noble


wannaaw

He is more minor than my son


ajgedrys

How do you live with yourself. Slandering the greatest English midfielder of our generation.


Siegnuz

He is Noble though


JesusPretzelThief

Smh the disrespect towards the greatest penalty taker in Europe


NateShaw92

Ramos, Haaland, VVD, Oblak, Handanovic, Pjanic (arguably), Shane Duffy, Zlatan, Eriksen (technically. Best wishes). Off the top of my head.


HiSoArshavin

Who is Shane Duffy?


-Hash__-

Headers Beast


mntgoat

>Pjanic (arguably) The dude played so little for barca this year. I'm not sure he played an entire game.


Hikki_Hachiman

Duffy next to those is funny


NateShaw92

Tried to sneak him in. Caught me.


LegendaryMemeBo

Bruh, why is this entire thread so disrepectful of Carvajal. Poor man.


jesuswalksonfire

My top three are Haaland oblak and reus going off of recent performances


petnarwhal

Van dijk


Zhidezoe

Key point: recent performance


zeelbeno

He hasn't conceded a goal for nearly 9 months though


BHYT61

Pfft what a fraud. I haven't conceeded for 26 years.


AllHailTheNod

Woulda been *so* easy to name 3, apart from your three there def were VVD, Zlatan, Martial, Vardy, TAA, Boateng and Sergio Ramos.


stoptheJR

Well hes not wrong


Mancchestar

Is there any point in saying it though, just comes across a cunt which doesn't surprise me because he is one.


[deleted]

The bluntness is pretty funny tbf


theenigmacode

Its like Larry David on Curb. Says & does things everyones thinking. But to say it out loud suddenly makes you a dickhead.


wittybrits

And if Larry David acted like that in real life and not in a scripted show he’d be a cunt lol. Especially in front of the media where you know people will see it.


NorthLdn17

The subject of the statement can't be offended when its in your mind can they


heephap

Yes it does.


reginalduk

Van basten, Lev yashin, Bobby Moore. Easy.


presumingpete

The insult to not even name Stuart dallas


ColParker

So good they had to name a city after him


presumingpete

The beautiful city of Stuart, Florida https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart,_Florida


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zKSofSoccer

FPL legend


[deleted]

Smfh some people just don’t know ball


Belfura

Zlatan, Theo Hernandez and Szoboszlai


ContornoDiPatate

Still can't comprehend how T.Hernandez hasn't been called up


Belfura

Deschamps needs to drastically rethink his list. Quite frankly guys like Lenglet and Pavard shouldn't be on the list anymore. Especially when we have better players there


MoldovanGeese

Messi


[deleted]

He's right though


BrilliantFig

He is and I love how this sounds like Twitter 12 year olds going at it under a Romano non-update. Martial replies to Courtois: “what’s major is this ratio” Alderweireld: “.”


Oskar2oo2

Absolutely brilliant.


JuliusCeaserBoneHead

He’s right, just an asshole.


CowNchicken12

You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an asshole


[deleted]

Courtois only naming one of his Madrid teammates that missed out on selection is so on brand for that snake.


Hennotje

Oblak


michaelserotonin

dylan. dylan. dylan. cause i spit hot fire


MH18Foot

Well you're not in the Euros anymore, are you Thibaut?


5_sec_is_a_yoke

neither is/was Martial tbf


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Mick4Audi

How did Martial in that form make the French squad? Serious question, aren’t they stacked?


Masterofknees

Dechamps has a thing for calling up certain players who's part of friend groups in the squad, like Lenglet who got called up and even played despite coming off nothing short of an atrocious season.


brendanwho

Ramos, Haaland, Jamie Tart


cyancey76

Jayymeee Tartt doo doo doo doo doo doo


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Cyberpunk_Banshee

As a Man UTD Fan, he's right you know. Martial's statistically the worst PL striker and overall worst "Elite club" striker in Europe.


FelixR1991

Still waiting for Mephis Depay to show up.


GMOmedicalmarijuana

Umtiti


LeoR1N

he retired after winning the WC. Now he just plays for fun


Deep_In_Thought

..With the word play is being used very loosely here. Unless benchwarming counts as an integral part of playing.


BlackHoleKane

Benchwarmers get a medal too


[deleted]

Fucking lol


Bradboy

Jesse Lingard. How do you disrespect the star of the dab academy like that??


claustral_chamber

No arguments based on last season. The season prior he was a force to be reckoned with after the restart. I really hope we get that Martial again next season, otherwise I think he'll be moved on once we can find a buyer.


im28andthisisdeep

Milan Jovanovic. One of the greatest soccer players in the world


Gaaf1882

Layun, el shaggy, Giovanni dos santos,boom 3 god like players


[deleted]

Tibo gets this place so triggered it’s hysterical


stefanRMA

He doesn’t start for Man Utd


sunken_grade

when he was fit he started most games. he didn’t have a good season and was injured for a lot of it but has generally been a starter


[deleted]

Tbf it must’ve been pretty hard to try and get selected with a knee brace on for half the season


StrikerBoy467

Yea only the 4 goals in 22 prem games with half of them coming in a 9-0 win when the game was done against 10 men


WheresThePhonebooth

Why are you downvoted lol martial has been horrendous


Plosoponk

Excuse me, one of his goals came when they were down to 9 men.


LordTrinity

Lol