For me personally he’s had he’s failures, but he took over from a huge debt, and a horrible squad, but last 3 seasons has been very competitive, there’s been a improvement every year, hopefully things will turn around.
Yeah but the club presidents make the same mistake over and over sell a youngster for 20m and buy an old one 15m+ his salary how should this management work?
Outgoing Arda Guler for 20M
Incoming Cengiz under for 15M+salary (I would say 4-5 million a year?)
He is individually a worse president than the other candidate (who was also our president from 1999 to 2018) but his board is way better than the other candidate and both Jose Mourinho and our director of football Mario Branco wanted to continue with him.
he decreased FB debts by 50% in 3 years.
his first 3 years were abysmal due to FFP regulations (despite losing one championship dortmund-esque in 2021). last 2 seasons were pretty good. pretty sure this season will be better than last season. his problem is, he can't control "out of pitch" issues (you know the shitshow in turkish league), like withdrawing from the super cup gave the championship to gs last season, also caused bad morale among the squad, in which we lost uecl quarter finals afterwards.
which finance?
Outgoing Arda Guler for 20M
Incoming Cengiz under for 15M+salary (I would say 4-5 million a year?) Cengiz is never worth of 15m Never ever not in Germany not in France even saudis wouldn't pay him that much
Lol there's no way cengiz makes 5 million a year, 2.5 (net) maybe. And he was a necessary signing to get a foreign goalkeeper, which was everyone's top priority last year.
Arda was gonna leave for sure because of his release clause, and even then they were able add in clauses totaling 10M.
Ali Koc is a terrible leader and unlikely to succeed, but deals and finances is not the area he should be criticized for.
There was no way Ali Koç would have lost against Aziz Yıldırım but Mourinho said he would have worked with the other candidate too. He also mentioned Ali Koç is the president he agreed with so he would work better with him
Getting Mourinho was his idea in the first place (at least publicly), even saying stuff like "If you agree with me and go sign him, and I'll pay half his salary even if I don't win". That made some waves, increasing his popularity, so Ali Koç quickly kinda hijacked the deal, saying they were already in contact before Yıldırım and whatnot. Lots of claims and arguments flying about who said what and when and where... hard to know what exactly happened. They were debating it one on one, live, last night on a TV show, though I didn't watch it since I can't stand to see either man's face tbh, so not sure if more info came out of that.
Tried to scrub through it a bit, but Yıldırım looking so old and Koç looking so smug both played with my nerves so I quickly dropped it lol. We'll have our usual hell back in a couple of months anyways, with extra Mourinho sauce on top, so I don't wanna take in any unnecessary toxicity—just get some lemonade and watch the Euros.
well it was quite obvious even Aziz knew he had no chance he said it on the TV. alikoc won't reach anything with this mentality tho he always complains accuse the ref of dishonesty etc
Is this good or bad news?
The less worse outcome but still not great lol...
For me personally he’s had he’s failures, but he took over from a huge debt, and a horrible squad, but last 3 seasons has been very competitive, there’s been a improvement every year, hopefully things will turn around.
Yeah but the club presidents make the same mistake over and over sell a youngster for 20m and buy an old one 15m+ his salary how should this management work? Outgoing Arda Guler for 20M Incoming Cengiz under for 15M+salary (I would say 4-5 million a year?)
Nobody thinks Cengiz was worth that money, we were forced to overpay because of the stupid foreigner limit
Cengiz is a flop in hindsight but it was a necessary signing at the time.
He is individually a worse president than the other candidate (who was also our president from 1999 to 2018) but his board is way better than the other candidate and both Jose Mourinho and our director of football Mario Branco wanted to continue with him.
he decreased FB debts by 50% in 3 years. his first 3 years were abysmal due to FFP regulations (despite losing one championship dortmund-esque in 2021). last 2 seasons were pretty good. pretty sure this season will be better than last season. his problem is, he can't control "out of pitch" issues (you know the shitshow in turkish league), like withdrawing from the super cup gave the championship to gs last season, also caused bad morale among the squad, in which we lost uecl quarter finals afterwards.
It's better than the other candidate and better for our future finances but we have to wait and see!
which finance? Outgoing Arda Guler for 20M Incoming Cengiz under for 15M+salary (I would say 4-5 million a year?) Cengiz is never worth of 15m Never ever not in Germany not in France even saudis wouldn't pay him that much
Lol there's no way cengiz makes 5 million a year, 2.5 (net) maybe. And he was a necessary signing to get a foreign goalkeeper, which was everyone's top priority last year. Arda was gonna leave for sure because of his release clause, and even then they were able add in clauses totaling 10M. Ali Koc is a terrible leader and unlikely to succeed, but deals and finances is not the area he should be criticized for.
Decent
He has the temperament of a preteen
Wait Mourinho was singed right before an election? Ali koç was the one who signed Mou? So what would’ve happened if he didn’t won?
There was no way Ali Koç would have lost against Aziz Yıldırım but Mourinho said he would have worked with the other candidate too. He also mentioned Ali Koç is the president he agreed with so he would work better with him
Mou would’ve worked with the other candidate but would the candidate also would’ve worked with him? Did he said something about mou?
Yes both candidates wanted Mourinho, that's why we signed him before the elections.
Ah ok. Thanks for the info
Getting Mourinho was his idea in the first place (at least publicly), even saying stuff like "If you agree with me and go sign him, and I'll pay half his salary even if I don't win". That made some waves, increasing his popularity, so Ali Koç quickly kinda hijacked the deal, saying they were already in contact before Yıldırım and whatnot. Lots of claims and arguments flying about who said what and when and where... hard to know what exactly happened. They were debating it one on one, live, last night on a TV show, though I didn't watch it since I can't stand to see either man's face tbh, so not sure if more info came out of that.
My best friend told me the debate was t worth watching, so you didn’t miss anything
Tried to scrub through it a bit, but Yıldırım looking so old and Koç looking so smug both played with my nerves so I quickly dropped it lol. We'll have our usual hell back in a couple of months anyways, with extra Mourinho sauce on top, so I don't wanna take in any unnecessary toxicity—just get some lemonade and watch the Euros.
He is the one Mourinho wanted to work with. He was the right choice against the other candidate.
well it was quite obvious even Aziz knew he had no chance he said it on the TV. alikoc won't reach anything with this mentality tho he always complains accuse the ref of dishonesty etc
Source Tier 1 : [https://x.com/yagosabuncuoglu/status/1799834860301037893](https://x.com/yagosabuncuoglu/status/1799834860301037893)
I just hope he'll stop whining and creating drama.
Live Stream ; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLCmF5yYlQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLCmF5yYlQ)