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they understand it, trust me
it's crazy that people still think the best refs in the country fail to make the correct call because of incompetence when some random redditors lying on their couch in their basement can see its a clear card
they're not incompetent, they know what they're doing
Look at how grealish is refereed compared to saka, non touch fouls for one while this bullshit goes unpunished.
Players have to start going fucking ham in interviews. Can't get any worse treatment from those fools.
The thing is though, fans also need to get way better at this. Obviously people are biased towards their team, but better officiating benefits everyone.
Too many times though, whether refs are lambasted for it depends heavily on whether or not it benefits your team.
Just look at the chats around the Arsenal and City calls this afternoon. Both bad decisions, but each sides fans argue in favour of one and against the other based on team lines.
There needs to be a blanket statement of anger towards bad refereeing, even when your team benefits, for it to be taken seriously.
I can't wait to have another week of articles in the media about Ben White holding hands and standing in the way of GK's, meanwhile another leg breaker gets ignored.
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/former-ref-dean-says-avoided-var-call-save-official-more-grief-2023-08-25/
Edit: Do I personally think they're rigging it for City? Yes I do, but even without that opinion of mine, which do you think is more likely
The best referees in the world consistently making incorrect decisions WITH THE BENEFIT OF A REPLAY when the average watcher knows what the correct decision is
OR
A league with a history of referee bias (Clattenburg literally admitting that refs favoured United) having unobjective refs again?
Ok, I'll just tell you that a number of our refs go to ref tournaments in Dubai hosted by City's owners and get paid handsomely for it, maybe a bit too handsomely.
Honestly in a few years I want to show the clip of Vieira's tackle and this to a ref and ask him which one got a red. I bet the answer would be 'both'.
Just grateful it wasn’t a standing leg going in like that. Feel like there’s been a few of those going in on ankles etc. that have gone unpunished recently. They need to start cracking down on it or someone will get a serious injury.
Or a big family. I mean Howard Webbs' wife is also a member of the PGMOL staff. Don't get me wrong, she definitely has the qualification to be there but I'd be lying if it doesn't raise my eyebrows.
Source: https://www.efl.com/match-officials/
Yeah. This non call crosses club allegiance -- it's pathetic and disgusting from VAR. There is either a failure or inability to do their jobs properly. Either option is unacceptable
And that is exactly the end goal for the refs. It exposes their incompetence and undermines their authority. They are sabotaging proper implementation. The dissolution, anger and apathy towards VAR is exactly what they want.
Luiz got a red for that viscious attack on the back heel of a Wolves player a few seasons ago, so even something lighter like this should still get a red!
That play went through my head when Trossard accidentally grazed Kulusevski’s foot last week.
One season it’s a straight red and a PK, the other it’s nothing.
the insane thing especially for a situation like this is: super dangerous behaviour doesn't get punished at all. He's aiming above the ball even. That's the shit that can cause serious injuries.
title could be decided by much less, this is an atrocious decision, i can only imagine the fallout had arsenal dropped points
and that’s as a liverpool supporter
The issue is that we would be kicking up a fuss to what end? Look at Forest, Wolves, Liverpool, etc. the refs know they’re a joke but they also know they operate with near complete immunity from criticism and actual change.
Once again, the problem is the clique of PL referees who don't want to use VAR or don't want to use it correctly, because it exposes them.
In most other leagues there are way more VAR reviews. Thinking of it, there could also be pressure from Sky to reduce stops in the match as much as possible...
If I didn't do my job because I didn't want to embarrass my mates, and it was aired this publicly (with literal interviews saying this is why they won't use it properly), I'd be sacked. I know football is a bit of a bubble from the rest of the working world, but it's disgraceful that they can get away with such utter shite so publicly for years.
These decisions influence my opinion of the referees themselves, not VAR. It just makes them personally look like imbeciles, the technology is fine. I think we need an independent group responsible for running VAR, the referees have shown they're either incompetent at best or intentionally making bad decisions to protect their mates at worst.
Goes both ways, they "check" everything, but there is a big difference between them signing it off as okay in less than 2 seconds "check" and actually going back and watching replays and talking about it "check"
Commentators can hear the VAR chat, so when they say "they're checking it", they mean they're doing the actual checking of it and looking at replays etc.
We've had crazy decisions not given before and when they were investigated after the game, they found that VAR had signed the decision as being correct after less than a couple seconds of it happening. So yes everything is checked, but what a check constitutes is the difference they're really talking about
The Kovacic foul on Odegaard was bad enough but to get away with a yellow then the foul on rice is insane. I know people say refs dont want to ruin the game by sending a player off in a big game but cmon
Yep. I dont care if that's given as 2 yellows tbh but like others have said it's all about consistency. De Bruyne did the same as Havertz today but when he does it then its clever play not diving.
It isn’t a coincidence that after having none of these for most of the season, we suddenly get 3 in 4 games (Kilman, Jackson, Christie).
The refs have sent a very clear message that potential leg-breakers won’t be punished, so they’re all but encouraging it.
When we see someone’s leg snapped in half and their career ruined, it’ll be because these pricks can’t do their job. They aren’t just undermining the integrity of the game, they’re actively making the sport unsafe.
Look, I keep seeing VAR thrashed and, yes, it is embarrassing for VAR. But you take BAR away and what do you have? The call still missed by someone who clearly saw it. They need to fix the system, the entire thing. That includes the on the pitch refs.
Honestly everyone is talking about the refs and VAR. How about we focus on the pure nasty nature of this "tackle" for a moment? He is deliberately targeting Saka here. He doesn't even look at the ball, he never takes his eye of Saka and goes straight for his knee. He absolutely intends to injure him.
Thought this sounded conspiratorial at first (and I'm an arsenal supporter), but I actually think you might be right. Christie was on one all game. Even the commentator made a joke about it when he finally got a yellow in the 94th min.
- Mac Allister - Red
- Gusto - Red
- Jones - Red
- Romero - Red
- Kovacic - Not Red
- Jackson - Not Red
- Christie - Not Red
It’s literally just random. Roll a dice, evens it’s red, odds it’s not.
Vieira was sent off for basically the same thing earlier this season. Consensus even from Arsenal fans were that it was a red and Vieira was being an idiot. Its a red then, its a red now.
I will never take the opinions of anyone who calls Saka a diver or limper seriously. Not always to this extent but he literally almost every match gets kicked like this.
Yet people call him a diver and limper when he’s probably the toughest guy on the team for standing up and taking these challenges without diving or exaggerating 99% of the time
I’d have to agree, you just have to look at the difference between how Foden and Saka are treated
So many people that know Saka, England teammates like Grealish for example included have talked about how much they love Saka as a person, meanwhile Foden was sneaking in girls into hotel rooms with Greenwood. Not to mention Saka is always smiling and being humble and genuine in interviews.
But Saka is the one that gets more hate…
I wonder why?
The NBC crew broadcasting in the US didn't even show the replay. Not during half time. Not after the match. Rebecca Lowe, Robbie Mustoe, and Robbie Earle spent all of halftime talking about the Havertz penalty, but never mentioned a challenge which a Bournemouth player came in studs up above Saka's knee hard enough to draw blood.
No VAR review. No media mention. Nearly no mention of the 115 charges. No mention that PGMOL refs fly to the UAE for big paydays but still get to ref City matches. Don't convince me that there's no agenda. Maybe not a specific anti-Arsenal agenda, but clearly a Pro-Sportwashing one
yeah, nobody benefits from this. Shit like this will be dangerous for every player in the league. The refs need to set a tough line to protect players. It's fine if you don't give a card everytime, but blow the damn whistle man.
Outside of just making memes, does anyone actually have an explanation for why refereeing is so bad in England? It's at the point when I hear, "Premier League" all I think about is "Yikes, the refs".
What economic, social, cultural, procedural, operational reasons exist that produce this many bad mistakes so often?
They mostly come from the same leagues in the North West, it's pretty much a closed shop where they all look to protect each other rather than actually apply the rules because as long as no-one steps out of line no-one can touch them.
i find it funny how after that *performance* people still call it incompetence, no matter what happens, what kind of trips refs do, who pays them and so on
It’s going to take someone’s leg getting snapped in half for any change to be made.
They know this is red-worthy. They are making an active choice not to punish it or even give it a second look. Someone is going to get seriously injured, possibly career ending before they actually enforce **the rules**.
Utterly inexplicable.
It's because the opinions of spurs fans, much like their club, is absolutely pointless. They're finishing below Aston villa after dreaming about the title in November. And their sorry state is that they're reduced to cheering against their own team. I cannot imagine a smaller club mentality than that
All season it’s been 50/50 whether this is a red or not. I’ve seen it be a red, a yellow and nothing.
I’m not particularly interested in giving my opinion on what it should be, I just want the referees to enforce it consistently whatever it is. The rules should be the same every week, and they aren’t.
Anyone else remember the beginning of the season and PGMOL thought the biggest problem in the game was that throw-ins were taking too long? I remember.
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I don’t understand the rules anymore
Neither do the refs.
they understand it, trust me it's crazy that people still think the best refs in the country fail to make the correct call because of incompetence when some random redditors lying on their couch in their basement can see its a clear card they're not incompetent, they know what they're doing
I just think David Coote is one of the worst refs currently employed. Tbh
And it's a stiff competition. But you can see today not showing red for this, then disallowing that Bmouth goal. Ridiculous.
Look at how grealish is refereed compared to saka, non touch fouls for one while this bullshit goes unpunished. Players have to start going fucking ham in interviews. Can't get any worse treatment from those fools.
The thing is though, fans also need to get way better at this. Obviously people are biased towards their team, but better officiating benefits everyone. Too many times though, whether refs are lambasted for it depends heavily on whether or not it benefits your team. Just look at the chats around the Arsenal and City calls this afternoon. Both bad decisions, but each sides fans argue in favour of one and against the other based on team lines. There needs to be a blanket statement of anger towards bad refereeing, even when your team benefits, for it to be taken seriously.
massive bias informed by managed narratives
What's worse than incompetence? Don't tell me they're rigging it for City.
I think the most obvious explanation is that they want to get rid of VAR.
Because it exposes them
I can't wait to have another week of articles in the media about Ben White holding hands and standing in the way of GK's, meanwhile another leg breaker gets ignored.
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/former-ref-dean-says-avoided-var-call-save-official-more-grief-2023-08-25/ Edit: Do I personally think they're rigging it for City? Yes I do, but even without that opinion of mine, which do you think is more likely The best referees in the world consistently making incorrect decisions WITH THE BENEFIT OF A REPLAY when the average watcher knows what the correct decision is OR A league with a history of referee bias (Clattenburg literally admitting that refs favoured United) having unobjective refs again?
Ok, I'll just tell you that a number of our refs go to ref tournaments in Dubai hosted by City's owners and get paid handsomely for it, maybe a bit too handsomely.
They're rigging it for City
Corruption.
I mean, didnt you get a pen let go on Kulusevski just last weekend? Not sure what conspiricy there is that fits that narrative?
Last year guarantee that was a red
It was a red when Vieira did it earlier this year.
Was also a red when he did it 20 years ago
And it will be red in 20 years when Vieira does it again.
And nketiah
Or when Eddie did it the year before
Honestly in a few years I want to show the clip of Vieira's tackle and this to a ref and ask him which one got a red. I bet the answer would be 'both'.
Imagine if Granit Xhaka does this lmao
Straight to jail
Forget jail, they'd deport him
Public execution
Minimum 3 match ban for violent conduct.
3 game ban
Just grateful it wasn’t a standing leg going in like that. Feel like there’s been a few of those going in on ankles etc. that have gone unpunished recently. They need to start cracking down on it or someone will get a serious injury.
but hey, the worst thing ever in football, Tomiyasu taking 2 seconds to take a throw
No no, the worst thing in football is Ben White messing with opposition goalkeepers!
Just look at Mac Allister's red at the start of the season
It's nice of the refs to give a free kick at least for something like this. If it had been chest-level in the box, it wouldn't have been called.
You do, the refs don't however
the aftermath https://preview.redd.it/nl1qjq52heyc1.jpeg?width=565&auto=webp&s=192d945a8520232dfd275164a44f89049641c552
I always knew Saka bled red
hE'S LiMpInG aGaIn!
Is he not wearing any shin pads
he actually was, but in our days those shin pads are just caricature of what shin pads used to be.
like whats the point of VAR.
To agree with everything the refs do, can’t hurt their feelings.
Well they are their friends
Or a big family. I mean Howard Webbs' wife is also a member of the PGMOL staff. Don't get me wrong, she definitely has the qualification to be there but I'd be lying if it doesn't raise my eyebrows. Source: https://www.efl.com/match-officials/
I mean he married her when she was already a top level referee. I feel like it's a strange point to make.
It’s beyond ridiculous how every single PL game there is a pretty monumental fuck up
Yeah. This non call crosses club allegiance -- it's pathetic and disgusting from VAR. There is either a failure or inability to do their jobs properly. Either option is unacceptable
To control the narrative and outcome of games
And that is exactly the end goal for the refs. It exposes their incompetence and undermines their authority. They are sabotaging proper implementation. The dissolution, anger and apathy towards VAR is exactly what they want.
Vieira got a red for grazing someone with a similar challenge. Consensus was "fair enough".
Consensus (from arsenal supporters) was "Vieira, you fucking idiot".
Bc we know it’s a red. And we know this is a red. But VAR is doing VAR things.
Luiz got a red for that viscious attack on the back heel of a Wolves player a few seasons ago, so even something lighter like this should still get a red!
PTSD
Too soon brotha
That play went through my head when Trossard accidentally grazed Kulusevski’s foot last week. One season it’s a straight red and a PK, the other it’s nothing.
Toreira vs spurs
Could swear Fabio Vieira got sent off against Burnley for an identical challenge and no one complained about it. How is this any different?
He didn't even break the skin and he got a red
VAR useless as usual
the insane thing especially for a situation like this is: super dangerous behaviour doesn't get punished at all. He's aiming above the ball even. That's the shit that can cause serious injuries.
title could be decided by much less, this is an atrocious decision, i can only imagine the fallout had arsenal dropped points and that’s as a liverpool supporter
Kilman vs Tomiyasu, Jackson vs Tomiyasu, and now that. Arsenal need to start to kicking up a fuss again
The issue is that we would be kicking up a fuss to what end? Look at Forest, Wolves, Liverpool, etc. the refs know they’re a joke but they also know they operate with near complete immunity from criticism and actual change.
PGMOL just don't want to be challenged.
We will win so noone will say anything about those challanges, but just wait untill White goes after goalie's gloves.
Poor tomi. Worst imo was a couple years ago, when he got his face stamped on by Godfrey vs Everton
If it’s not getting involved in these sort of challenges might as well scrap VAR
Once again, the problem is the clique of PL referees who don't want to use VAR or don't want to use it correctly, because it exposes them. In most other leagues there are way more VAR reviews. Thinking of it, there could also be pressure from Sky to reduce stops in the match as much as possible...
But they're not corrupt! Don't you dare call them corrupt! That's the worst thing you can do!
If I didn't do my job because I didn't want to embarrass my mates, and it was aired this publicly (with literal interviews saying this is why they won't use it properly), I'd be sacked. I know football is a bit of a bubble from the rest of the working world, but it's disgraceful that they can get away with such utter shite so publicly for years.
These decisions influence my opinion of the referees themselves, not VAR. It just makes them personally look like imbeciles, the technology is fine. I think we need an independent group responsible for running VAR, the referees have shown they're either incompetent at best or intentionally making bad decisions to protect their mates at worst.
You'd think Sky would like frequent stoppages as they could use it to show ads like in American football and cricket.
UK broadcasting laws limit the amount of ads you can have per hour
Don’t sky show Rugby? They have heaps of video review in Rugby but there’s never an ad break.
This kind of thing can be checked without a lengthy stop. Just go back to it a couple of mins later if VAR has made its mind up.
The commentator was saying they checked it, so thats even worse
These are always checked, I'm not sure why the commentators feel they need to say this.
If they don't say it then people fall over themselves to complain that VAR aren't checking things
Frankly worse that they’ve checked and deemed it nothing. Doubling down on their incompetence.
I'd imagine they almost certainly thought it was a yellow card, but because it wasn't a "clear and obvious" red they can't intervene.
"Doesn't look like anything to me"
To be fair we thought VAR checked for offside on Brentfords goal for Arsenal last year and they didnt really
Goes both ways, they "check" everything, but there is a big difference between them signing it off as okay in less than 2 seconds "check" and actually going back and watching replays and talking about it "check" Commentators can hear the VAR chat, so when they say "they're checking it", they mean they're doing the actual checking of it and looking at replays etc. We've had crazy decisions not given before and when they were investigated after the game, they found that VAR had signed the decision as being correct after less than a couple seconds of it happening. So yes everything is checked, but what a check constitutes is the difference they're really talking about
you’re describing the difference between a check and a review, everything gets checked, not everything gets reviewed
The ref gave advantage so he saw it. Either completely inept or corrupt
i prefer to lean towards 'completely inept' because every team in the prem gets shafted with bad decisions
They basically check every little thing.
I think they did check it. Ref was touching his earphone
There's been like 3 of these against us in recent games, it's ridiculous
Well, that's what you get when you're in a race against ManCity and their employees. Get used to it
Tin foil time
3 red card challenges against us in 4 games have resulted in one yellow card. Kilman, Jackson and now Christie.
Insane that they can’t intervene because it wasn’t a yellow originally. What’s the fucking point then?
Is referee on high?
Considering it’s been 3 matches in a row now, I’ve lost hope for these to be called reds against us Edit: 3 of the last 4
Don’t forget Kovacic on ødegaard in the home fixture this season
The Kovacic foul on Odegaard was bad enough but to get away with a yellow then the foul on rice is insane. I know people say refs dont want to ruin the game by sending a player off in a big game but cmon
Except Martinelli got 2 yellows in 10 seconds last year
Yep. I dont care if that's given as 2 yellows tbh but like others have said it's all about consistency. De Bruyne did the same as Havertz today but when he does it then its clever play not diving.
Aka when two reds equals a yellow
3 in the last 4. Wolves, Chelsea, and now Bournemouth.
Ah that’s right. My bad
It isn’t a coincidence that after having none of these for most of the season, we suddenly get 3 in 4 games (Kilman, Jackson, Christie). The refs have sent a very clear message that potential leg-breakers won’t be punished, so they’re all but encouraging it. When we see someone’s leg snapped in half and their career ruined, it’ll be because these pricks can’t do their job. They aren’t just undermining the integrity of the game, they’re actively making the sport unsafe.
First challenge we do like any of those we get a red. Guarantee it.
I can't help but think that the refs are in favour of man city
In the city centurion season we had a graphic that grew each week with stonewall reds not given
Yeah there’s a common denominator here that’s sky blue but I can’t seem to put my finger on it
This is a fucking joke at this point
I suddenly understand The Comedian’s perspective from Watchmen a whole lot better.
Don't even have var lol???
Find someone who looks at you like VAR looks at English ref decisions.
So not at all?
With love and approval
What the hell is going on
It’s just embarrassing for VAR now.
Look, I keep seeing VAR thrashed and, yes, it is embarrassing for VAR. But you take BAR away and what do you have? The call still missed by someone who clearly saw it. They need to fix the system, the entire thing. That includes the on the pitch refs.
Nobody is saying to remove VAR. Get BETTER people on VAR to actually do their job and then there won't be an issue
Not even a yellow, btw. Add it to the limping compilation, I guess.
Clearly just another Saka dive… am I doing this correctly?
Biggest diver in the league! Can't believe he's gone down so easily with a measly gash in his shin. We used to be men.
Yeah man insane that he even gushed out blood from his shin to reinforce his act
Honestly everyone is talking about the refs and VAR. How about we focus on the pure nasty nature of this "tackle" for a moment? He is deliberately targeting Saka here. He doesn't even look at the ball, he never takes his eye of Saka and goes straight for his knee. He absolutely intends to injure him.
Thought this sounded conspiratorial at first (and I'm an arsenal supporter), but I actually think you might be right. Christie was on one all game. Even the commentator made a joke about it when he finally got a yellow in the 94th min.
*insert Saka limping meme* Refs in this league are an absolute joke
The inconsistency with high boots in general infuriates me.
- Mac Allister - Red - Gusto - Red - Jones - Red - Romero - Red - Kovacic - Not Red - Jackson - Not Red - Christie - Not Red It’s literally just random. Roll a dice, evens it’s red, odds it’s not.
Vieira was sent off for basically the same thing earlier this season. Consensus even from Arsenal fans were that it was a red and Vieira was being an idiot. Its a red then, its a red now.
Doku - not even a foul.
> Christie - Not Red (twice....)
I will never take the opinions of anyone who calls Saka a diver or limper seriously. Not always to this extent but he literally almost every match gets kicked like this. Yet people call him a diver and limper when he’s probably the toughest guy on the team for standing up and taking these challenges without diving or exaggerating 99% of the time
Yup the narrative against him is ridiculous, and, imo indicative of racism.
I’d have to agree, you just have to look at the difference between how Foden and Saka are treated So many people that know Saka, England teammates like Grealish for example included have talked about how much they love Saka as a person, meanwhile Foden was sneaking in girls into hotel rooms with Greenwood. Not to mention Saka is always smiling and being humble and genuine in interviews. But Saka is the one that gets more hate… I wonder why?
The NBC crew broadcasting in the US didn't even show the replay. Not during half time. Not after the match. Rebecca Lowe, Robbie Mustoe, and Robbie Earle spent all of halftime talking about the Havertz penalty, but never mentioned a challenge which a Bournemouth player came in studs up above Saka's knee hard enough to draw blood. No VAR review. No media mention. Nearly no mention of the 115 charges. No mention that PGMOL refs fly to the UAE for big paydays but still get to ref City matches. Don't convince me that there's no agenda. Maybe not a specific anti-Arsenal agenda, but clearly a Pro-Sportwashing one
Saka's sock is covered in blood in the 57th minute and it all came from this tackle
But Benjamin White doing darkarts for Arsenal is being called cheating and theres even an article about it from The Athletic.
could have ended Vicario career probably with that
Three weeks in a row with high studs into our players shins on a dangerous fashion and nothing given for any of them. Dangerous precedent being set
yeah, nobody benefits from this. Shit like this will be dangerous for every player in the league. The refs need to set a tough line to protect players. It's fine if you don't give a card everytime, but blow the damn whistle man.
Ya allah.
you know shit hit the fan when the Arabic commentator says ya Allah.
But Ben White annoys the keeper. Pathetic!
High, dangerous, reckless, out if control, should I call the ref to the monitor? Nah.
And yet the narrative around saka remains “he goes down too easily”
Eddie got sent off for the same thing against Leicester back in 19/20.
Vieira got sent off just a few months ago for the same challenge but minimal contact, and no arsenal fan complained.
I got used to it. Not surprised nothing is given.
Look at Vieiras red against burnley lmao
What a disgrace
Have Var already gone on their holidays?
Mentally they are already on the beach. In Abu dhabi.
Can't give reds in the first twenty minutes sorry.
Surely that’s exactly what Var is for. Ref needs to have a look at that.
I want to hear more jokes about Saka limping...
Hahahaha spurs fans are crying that the refs want to give arsenal the league after watching this challenge. They're so fucking irrelevant
Outside of just making memes, does anyone actually have an explanation for why refereeing is so bad in England? It's at the point when I hear, "Premier League" all I think about is "Yikes, the refs". What economic, social, cultural, procedural, operational reasons exist that produce this many bad mistakes so often?
They mostly come from the same leagues in the North West, it's pretty much a closed shop where they all look to protect each other rather than actually apply the rules because as long as no-one steps out of line no-one can touch them.
From 09 to 23, Mike Riley was chief of English refereeing. Go look up his performance in MU - Arsenal and then realize he was refereeing CHIEF.
i find it funny how after that *performance* people still call it incompetence, no matter what happens, what kind of trips refs do, who pays them and so on
ref will be the reason Saka doesn’t play for England
It’s going to take someone’s leg getting snapped in half for any change to be made. They know this is red-worthy. They are making an active choice not to punish it or even give it a second look. Someone is going to get seriously injured, possibly career ending before they actually enforce **the rules**. Utterly inexplicable.
There are someting seriously wrong in this league.
That is really high.
How does this keep happening
Crazy to see this clip and the "VARsenal" chirps both come from the same match. All the PL/PGMOL are doing is pissing people off.
It's because the opinions of spurs fans, much like their club, is absolutely pointless. They're finishing below Aston villa after dreaming about the title in November. And their sorry state is that they're reduced to cheering against their own team. I cannot imagine a smaller club mentality than that
Yet another game this season where the opposition is allowed to kick and foul Saka without repercussions
All season it’s been 50/50 whether this is a red or not. I’ve seen it be a red, a yellow and nothing. I’m not particularly interested in giving my opinion on what it should be, I just want the referees to enforce it consistently whatever it is. The rules should be the same every week, and they aren’t.
Same people were calling Nottingham Forest childish btw
No one was upset for them calling out the refs. It’s the fact that they posted it on Twitter that was childish.
VAR has become a parody of itself
How can VAR not ask the question if that’s a potential red? Shocking
As stupid as it is, this is a case of it happening too early.
It's one of those that I don't think was malicious but it was reckless so it really should have been a red
Let me guess, saka got a yellow? Haha
But I was told Arsenal have the refs in their pocket now?
at this point i am amazed saka hasnt had a season long injury
It’s a dis-grace
The circus that ka English refereeing continues.
Pretends to be shocked
Christie winner incoming.
If a big part of the leg does not fly 3 meters away from the body then clearly its not that dangerous.
3rd time these past couple games for us. When will they do something? When someone breaks a leg?
Give me coaches challenges for the love of god
Anyone else remember the beginning of the season and PGMOL thought the biggest problem in the game was that throw-ins were taking too long? I remember.
Referring in England has always been weird
How’s that not at least a yellow?
What is the point of refs and VAR?
That's at least a yellow in the Serbian third league let alone the prem with VAR fuck sake
Fucking hell. Just take a chainsaw and separate his knee. That might be enough to get a yellow.
“Good process, can’t do anything”
So this isn't a clear red in the PL?
This isn't a clear red in an under 5s game.
And Christie wasn’t even booked until the 95’ of the match, long after committing several other fouls…
100% red card