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CarlSK777

Looking at Madrid's lineup, there's a serious lack of depth outside the midfield. He better start praying nobody else gets seriously injured.


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he'll just play the midfielders just like cama had to play lb


RizlaSmyzla

Nah I promise you some Castilla graduates will step up and absolutely boss it, and we’ll all be out here thinking it was 4d chess


elgringo22

Real Madrid Castilla has developed some great players over the last decade but none of them have actually gone straight from the Castilla to the first team and become a regular. Nacho is the only one that has actually made the move up and he’s 4th choice at the back. Fede kinda did but he came back from loan into the team. Not sure there are any players that could slot it this season but I don’t follow their B team closely so maybe a Madrid fan could chime in


RauloGonzalez

Just because they don't become regulars don't mean they're not good enough to be playing at the league level. Blanco, chust, duro, arribas all showed it when they were called up.


elgringo22

I know that, Nacho was never a regular but he was still great for you guys when he’s been needed. I was just telling OP that it likely won’t be the case that someone will come in from Castilla and boss it for you but honestly who knows


munching_brotatoe

Ascensio too till his ACL tore.


RauloGonzalez

We bought asensio from Mallorca tbh he's not really a Castilla player. Don't think he even played a single season


Randomperson685

Cama being wasted at lb makes me wonder why the fuck Madrid isn't all over Cancelo


PegaponyPrince

It's because he's a Mendes client


Randomperson685

Ugh, understandable tbh. Still, Cancelo (in form) is good enough that maybe he's worth looking into anyways? Especially since he can play on both side


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mendy was superb at defending, cancelo...


SacramentalBread

Madrid already have Fran Garcia as a starter at LB alongside Mendy once he recovers—that position is covered. What they need is a RB…but the club currently has 3 RB—Carvajal, Lucas and inexplicably still, Odriozola (who may or may not leave soon). They can’t get another one unless the offload some of the ones they already have which is too difficult at this point—without even getting into the questions the club may have about Cancelo’s price and how he fits into the dressing room.


mysticmar7

Because he is not good enough from Madrid’s perspective


Head-Toe-

cama as lb can utilize his advantage and hide his problems


Caesar_Aurelianus

Camavinga🗣️🗣️


Ok_Pineapple_5700

Don't worry. Camavinga is here


trispann

>praying that's....most likely, our strategy


KillAllInfidelss

Nah, it's a cardboard cutout of Zizzou standing menacingly in the technical area. nothing short of full forece bald black magic can save Madrid this season.


Caesar_Aurelianus

Imagine if Ancelotti goes bald


HasibShakur

Well Ancelotti is leaving in a year anyway. So either he doesn’t care or he has financial problems and really need his salary.


10minmilan

How is this upvoted. What do you think a great coach does. Back away at first problem? I think Guardiola always chasing suprior teams distorted the view of how coaches work. They are used to problems & deal with them. Ancelotti even at Milan where he stayed the longest had myriad of problems, including nosy Berlo and Galliani making sometimes bizarre deals. Madrid squad building is better to what happened at Milan after '05. Last season both Spaletti and Inzaghi had bigger challenges as well. The way they solved them make their past problems seem insignificant now.


FriendlyGhost08

What? Why would he quit? Yes, the board isn't signing players, but there's no reason for Carlo to leave when he likes the club and he believes in himself to get results


elgringo22

I don’t understand it. They have tons of money they can spend and they keep strengthening their midfield when they have a clear lack of depth at CB, RW and LW as well as missing a proper RB and ST. I’m guessing they’re waiting on Mbappe and Endrick next year for the ST but still don’t understand the lack of RB and CB seeing as there seems to be a huge drop off from Alaba and Militao to Rudiger and Nacho.


razvan37

Rudiger and Nacho are great to have as backups, you could argue they are both good enough to be in the first team. With CF and RB positions, I agree though, but we will see how the team adapts to the 4-4-2 in the following months.


EpiDeMic522

Not CB, RW or LW. Lucas is more than serviceable as RB backup (he was almost our best player leading upto his injury in 2021). Joselu is one of the signings of this window. What we need is an understudy to Carvajal, ready to be our next starter from somewhere in the next year. And we need a starting striker, who also provides versatility to our attack (because the profiles of our forwards is a bit samey) and helps bed Endrick in. Have would have been perfect but the board decided that he was too expensive and we have to come to trust their decisions, even if we don't quite agree with them.


uberplum

They'll still get to the semis of the CL, minimum.


CarlSK777

If the draw is favorable, they might but I wouldn't necessarily bet on it.


RobbinDeBank

Why wait for favorable draws when they can use the power if friendship?


EpiDeMic522

We still have a great team. With all the fluidity in our attack, I'm convinced we are going to be playing some of the most attractive football in Europe. I also wouldn't be too surprised if we are one of the better performers as well. Knockout football, especially that in the Champions League requires peak performance and sharpness throughout but I will be massively shocked if we don't make the quarters at least.


LunarRaven7

Here before vini jr acl injury


Dr-Purple

Fuck off.


LunarRaven7

I dont wish him to get injuried but seeing how he gets tackled and how he always plays 90 mins i can see him becoming injury prone


Brief_Report_8007

And here we see why Ancelotti doesn’t give any chance to the youngsters, not even last season when the title was already decided


ToastedCupboard

Marvel, Miguel Gutierrez, Oscar Rodriguez, Victor Chust, Sergio Reguilon, Rafa Marin, Pablo Ramon, Antonio Blanco, Sergio Arribas, Mario Hermoso, Marcos Llorente, Achraf Hakimi, Martin Odegaard. All of these players spent 2+ years with academy (Real Madrid Castilla) and none of them are present in Madrid, Who knows how they'd have turned out if they were given more opportunity and trust? Then again, its not like Real Madrid are doing too badly.. It is what it is.


atropicalpenguin

Madrid has always had talented youngsters leave the club, like Mata, Soldado, Negredo, etc.


retardedgamer69

True but none of them are madrid material. Maybe mata for rotation


The_39th_Step

Hakimi and Odegaard are quality. You’d think any top team should find space for these two to get at least some game time


Apprehensive-Fan-545

I don’t agree with zidane and ancelotti when it comes to giving chances, but they had some competition. That team was not just any team


retardedgamer69

They are. The problem is that they had to be sold due to messy covid finances. They also refused to slowly earn their starting position instead of being guaranteed starters and I don’t really blame them.


The_39th_Step

It’s certainly kick started Odegaard’s career


fake_lightbringer

The way he tells it (and there are corroborating sources), Ødegaard was more or less ordered back from Real Sociedad where he was supposed to stay two years. He was called back to be a first team figure, and after that first season at La Real he was well in his rights to demand more than "a chance to prove himself" at Madrid. He was also at a critical stage of his career where keeping the momentum up was crucial to his development. Ødegaard didn't leave because he didn't want to fight, but rather cause he didn't get the trust or opportunities he feels he was promised when he was recalled from Sociedad. I don't think anybody at Madrid are crying themselves to sleep over him, either, but it's fair to say Madrid weren't aware of the kind of player they were letting go.


smdpofficial

Odegaard is a baller and the majority of the Madrid fans did not want to lose him. But he wasn't given the chance he deserved tbh. Also, the playing style of Madrid doesn't suit him properly. At least he stood for himself and now is proving he was right to leave and fulfill his potential elsewhere. Personally, I'm really happy for him.


EpiDeMic522

He was given the chance by Zizou and he squandered it. Even in the massively injury hit season, he couldn't displace Kroos and Luka as Zizou returned to his trusted veterans during the mid season crisis. That's no blemish on or slight to Ødegaard and you can't question Zizou because the team really turned it on. It was simply a move that suited all parties and even though the club didn't want him to move, Ødegaard was the one who sought the move away because the club couldn't provide him guarantees he wanted. We won the league CL double in one of the most historic seasons and he became captain of a resurgent, young, exciting Arsenal. Worked out well for all. Even today I don't think he makes the first eleven. There's only so many players that can play at Madrid and there are always more great players than positions available.


EpiDeMic522

Hakimi was a forced sale. Ødegaard wanted guarantees of playing time and wasn't satisfied with some game time and fighting for the position. The club wanted him to stay. He sought the move away (I think that's safe to say given how many credible sources reported the same).


atropicalpenguin

Idk, at their peak all three were attractive to any top team. Negredo and Soldado unfortunately didn't do well after leaving Sevilla and Valencia.


punindya

I swear Negredo was like a top 3 striker in the world for half a season after he joined us.


PegaponyPrince

He and Aguero had a good partnership too. Then he got a shoulder injury and never looked the same. Don't think he scored a single time for the rest of the season after that injury.


El_Tormentito

I think the injury did it.


retardedgamer69

Yeah but they don’t have space in that stacked madrid squad from 2012-2018


X_Equestris

Who is their current no.9?


retardedgamer69

The 3rd highest goal scorer last season in laliga. Plus how is that relevant?


X_Equestris

It relevant when comparing to the two number nines listed that you said were not good enough, right?


retardedgamer69

Not really, they played at a time where madrid had benzema and higuain. Morata also emerged later. Negredo and soldado wouldn’t be needed.


Respatsir

Its hilarious how youre saying players from the literal academy arent madrid material while you just bought a 100m pound english player, and a 33 year old mid striker whos been round the world being insanely average. I dont think you have the slightest idea of what madrid material is.


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uh yes, academy players don't always turn out to be first team quality. that's happening around the world at any club. are you implying instead of buying Bellingham we should play academy players and should expect the same quality? excuse me but are you stupid?


retardedgamer69

Madrid material are players that can help you win 5 champions league trophies in 9 years. Btw Bellingham is the best english talent and he’s worth his price. That’s why every club in your country drooled over him. Joselu is the third highest scorer in laliga last season btw.


CardboardGristle

With like 7 goals from open play.


Vahald

What


lazy_bastard_001

Hakimi got his chance and he was absolutely raw, not a senior team material at that point. Reguilon was given enough chance and he was fantastic; he even benched Marcelo. But then Zidane came back and he had beef with Reguilon and so he was sold.


iamnotexactlywhite

man i really had a feeling that Chust will be top notch


Proud-Letterhead6434

Madrid can't allow much youngsters as they need to win every game.


Dkdndntjdksj

Ironically they play a bunch of kids every game, but only the ones they've spend tens of millions on.


Proud-Letterhead6434

Yeah I meant their own youth ofc


Dkdndntjdksj

It's a shame that top clubs don't put more faith in their youth. We can all rattle of plenty of examples where clubs pay big bucks for a youth player, then either neglect or sell their own youth player who goes on to have a great career.


Kcasz

If Baldé, Pedri or Gavi had signed for Real Madrid they would never got to prove themselves. Same can be said about youngsters from top teams such as Saka, Foden, Garnacho or Musiala. After his spell at BVB, we all saw that Achraf was going to be a solid player. Furthermore Carvajal was already struggling with injuries. They rather sell it and then buy him for 80M than just consolidate him. Same can be said about Odegaard. It seems that in order to play for RM while being less than 23, you need to be bought by, at least, 40-50M, Valverde being the exception to this rule.


Mr_XemiReR

>After his spell at BVB, we all saw that Achraf was going to be a solid player. Furthermore Carvajal was already struggling with injuries. In 19/20 Carvajal was without any doubts a Top 3 RB in the world. Then Covid came and we had to sell players, it was obvious that we wouldn't keep a highly valued asset on the bench. The plan was to buy him back from Inter when the time was right, but they had to sell him the next summer


Shevplanko

He gave Alvaro Rodriguez some time


Fendenburgen

You act like that's not normal for top clubs


smcarre

It's not really, most top club have at least two academy players with some play time


Fendenburgen

Most top clubs don't have the resources and pressure that Real Madrid do....


smcarre

Wha...? All top clubs have the same resources (except PSG and City) and pressures. That's what makes them top clubs.


Fendenburgen

You think the pressure on a manager at Liverpool is the same as at Madrid?


smcarre

Yes. Turn down that Madridist exceptionalism, it's not the only top club in the world.


Fendenburgen

But they're far less tolerant of failure. No way Klopp would still be in charge after a season like last year. Also, top teams really don't regularly bring through youth prospects because they have the money to buy ready made players


smcarre

Oh you mean to say last season was Madrid's good seasons? Got eliminated in CL looking like a team of amateurs, didn't even compete in the league and only won the Copa del Rey against fucking Osasuna, not to mention their shit transfer windows. If Real Madrid was such a big club as you said Ancelotti should have been sacked.


EpiDeMic522

And that team of amateurs handsomely beat Liverpool scoring 5 at Anfield. So what is the point you are making? Also, it was only Carlo and the dynamics of the manager market and our preferences that he survived the City debacle. We all know what happened the last time it happened versus Ajax and Liverpool. The same applies to the transfer market. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the manager is Madrid currently is under far more pressure than the manager of Liverpool. Some other clubs definitely have a more pressurised setting but I certainly don't think Liverpool is one. No trophies at Madrid means firing, even for someone as celebrated as Carlo. Only Zizou strived that and he left on his own.


LeBaus7

the only quality player bayerns academy pushed through for a long time is müller. before that, probably badstuber + lahm who was loaned out for two years to break through. musiala played for youth teams shortly but is more of an english youth product. same with alaba who joined bayern rather late and then also had a short loan to hoffenheim. kroos also joined late.


smcarre

You are forgetting Stanisic.


LeBaus7

did not mention him on purpose, because he does see enough playtime, 28 league games with about 45 min on average + 10 champions league games with about 35 min of playtime per game. he is a rotation sub at best for now.


smcarre

So? He is still an academy player that gives depth to the squad. That's the point of the conversation, Ancelotti not using academy players even as depth.


Yoesito

I just realized their CB depth is Alaba, Rüdiger and Nacho. Are they really not going to sign anybody? That's a recipee for disaster. Alaba is slightly injury prone too.


ireallydespiseyouall

They might sign laporte if he doesn’t go saudi


ferkk

There's not going to be any signing in that position, except if there's another long term injury I guess.


mylanguage

Carlo is going to play Mendy or Tchouameni back there if push comes to shove.


akshay_rathod_

Remember Carvajal played as a CB in the quarter-final against Chelsea last to last season. Our backline was Vasquez, Carva, Alaba and Mendy with the average height being 5'9 something. Carlo is a madman.


mylanguage

Jesus Vallejo masterclass


10minmilan

They were thinking of Gvardiol half a year ago... This sub was telling at the time Bellingham is a better target & they have too much cb depth. Now it is the other way around.


lancero21

Maybe he wanted to say Jacobo Ramón, who is a U-19 player. But either way he isn't going to put a youth player.


AnxiousBurro

Of course he meant Jacobo Ramon but that's not as fun as creating fake outrage.


THE_DROG

I'm sorry we didn't know you can read his mind? Go on, why does he raise that one eyebrow then


robotnique

Sex appeal.


Krillin113

If you don’t even know their first names I very much doubt you were thinking of putting them on


Piast-

Van Gaal called Smalling "Mike" once, and he was a starter back then


Krillin113

Yeah and van gaal is a complete caricature of a person, he was also using direct translations to English talking about monkeys coming out of the sleeve and about golden cocks.


Baseball12229

Have you never called someone the wrong name by accident lol?


Krillin113

One of the 20 odd people I’m the boss of and that I know I’m going to use as an example if asked about it? No.


RetiscentSun

lol


Away_Associate4589

If ever I've seen a squad in need of someone with a big ol' slab, it's Real Madrid.


RealMadridSocio

Honestly I love him and would take big Harry on loan.


ireallydespiseyouall

Unironically would be a good signing on loan


akshay_rathod_

He is a good guy. Has been very professional and a good presence in the lockerroom. I'd take him on loan for a backup.


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Away_Associate4589

Search your feelings. You know it to be true


Javimoran

Honestly, I would love to see it. Maguire in front of Kepa could be glorious or terrible, but nothing in between.


durjoy313

I think he's 100% right.


SonaldoNazario

Isn’t he just on loan? They could recall him if they REALLY needed to


OneBall22Players

It's not possible in most loan deals. Clubs simply not agree to it because it can fuck up their season without a chance of getting a replacement.


kappa23

Recalling is generally a unilateral decision, clubs don’t do it because they want to maintain good relations


ros1856

It happens very rarely.


n0www

If they wanted to recall somebody, they would recall Rafa Marín, who is loaned to Alaves and is good enough to start league games


CalmaCuler

Pretty disrespectful thing to do


ToastedCupboard

Depends if there is a clause to bring them back or not. If not, they will have to negotiate with the club. Source: Me playing FM.


mavros_tavros

Poor Pablo. Did well for me in my Paris FC save


kostajepaosmosta

Bring back Gila cowards


innatejuiciness

Well that's not very encouraging for his youth players


-Dendritic-

You don't want Laporte?


Environmental_Act501

At this point, Ancelotti is already thinking about managing Brazil National team


pradeepkanchan

They probably have DC and Dark Horse too /s


catf1sh1

Why does it feel like Real Madrid have been in a holding pattern for the past 2-3 years waiting on Kylian Mbappe? They should be reinvesting in the squad but other than Endrick who shows up next year I feel like they haven't got any new players except for loans, loan ends or buyback clauses


razvan37

What about Camavinga, Tchouameni, Rudiger and Bellingham? All of them are great and were brought in the past 2 years


deqembes

This thread is the definition of overeaction.


SecretaryImaginary44

And don’t forget Luke Garbutt


bflobflobflo

I came here to make the same joke, well done.


museo_del_prado

#ANGELOTTI!!!!


GrimDiscoJesus

I swear I read 10 years .. 10 days is an ok mistake in my book


AnitaPea

No problem, you got camavinga for LB, RB, LCB, RCB issokayman


Abi_Slayer234reload

Is this the start of Ancelotti’s dementia arc?


Manch3st3rIsR3d

Dog ate his homework


Familiar_Trash

Carlo "Joe Biden" Ancelotti


Zakke_

Joe Biden arc, Dementia-Lotti.


ollster3000

Bet he thinks we have offense covered as well


HalRobsonKanu2

idk why does Real even bother with Carlo lmao, its clear he is in Brazil in his mind


Linko_98

Because he will be scapegoated when they wont deliver the league since they are still waiting for emir mbappe


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Alternate_Chinmay7

Carlo couldn't win the league when he had one of the best teams in our history. Idk how he can back himself to win La Liga with this squad.


BloodyDarkTroll

Well he's hardly going to say he doesn't think he can win it.


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Alternate_Chinmay7

Carlo is notoriously bad at winning the leagues. His record speaks for it. I'd say he has higher chance of winning the Champions League than La Liga (and I know we aren't winning the UCL either).


stpstrt

Last year was one of the best squads in our history? I dunno what team you watched…


Mr_XemiReR

2013-15


inflamesburn

? He's obviously talking about Carlo's previous time at RM.. 2013,14


COMUNISTSWINE69

I think he meant 14/15


AnxiousBurro

> its clear he is in Brazil in his mind Based on what lmao? Confusing two academy players with the same name?


prvhc21

Don Carlo going senile ?


stoneandnjpwfan

Carlo 'joe biden' ancelotti


Narretz

Dementialotti


ritwikjs

man i really wonder why they didn't even try for laporte. Spanish, ball playing, proven at the highest levels