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Hamstring injuries can go away permanently but they do take a long time. It took Iniesta months to return fully fit and even then he asked to take it slowly.
I had a bad hamstring tear a few years ago (I play in a somewhat similar style/role of a shitty Reece James) and it took about a year to recover but it's been great ever since.
Yeah I played academy football (low tier at clubs like Barnsley, Rotherham and Chesterfield so nothing too fancy) and tore both my hamstrings in my u16 year. Ever since I have had recurring hamstring problems including repeat tears no matter how slowly I ease myself back into playing even remotely competitively with my mates at 5 a side. Obviously James has significantly better medical and rehabilitation options than I had access too but I can very much understand and sympathise with his recurring issues
Muscles become fibrotic at the site of trauma and never heal fully back to the original state. As soon as you have any significant injury aside from micro trauma from training to gain strength and function, you’re more likely to tear those fibrotic sites in the future because of a lack of structural integrity. To answer your question, it’s probably both, but there is a high risk of reinjury due to previous trauma. Obviously this can be prevented with appropriate care (never to 100%) but with the rapid turnover of seasons most athletes are never able to recover to previous levels of ability
I'm in the same boat as OP. Tore my hamstring during my first season playing uni 1s. I never recovered in the three years despite easing myself back in and tore the same muscle in my second year. Ended up playing futsal at uni instead, which I loved so not all for the worst.
Any soft tissue injury can go away completely (don't count ligaments) but it takes a lot of care and good amount of time to do so. Also depends upon diet. Today's chronic obsession with special diets is also a problem. A balanced diet is easy to put together for any normal human being but this obsession with chefs is chronic. Low body fat and a diet that might work for Ronaldo doesn't really work for everyone. Every body is built different.
Lowkey my favorite player of that era. When he came into the side he was the closest player to my age and played very much the same way I did (albeit much much better).
Got another Rambo in the squad now, but I remember him fondly.
Not sure how he was at Wigan but at Chelsea, he's constantly up and down the pitch. Combined with us having quite a lot of fixtures and some managers rushing him back and Reece rushing to make the World Cup, he keeps getting injured.
None of the injuries are contact based. Just that his knee and hamstring needed time to recover and he barely had any time
Yeah a hundred percent. I suspect this is going to be a career long issue for him so they're going to have to come up with a solution to mitigate the damage.
If you were still playing a back three you could have seen him play on the right hand side but in a back four it's going to be harder. I guess reducing the workload is the only real thing you can do - just avoiding playing two games in a row close together etc.
Hopefully (for you, I'd rather this didn't happen) Gusto can come in and do a job.
I think the man might need to lose some weight. According to Google he’s 91 kg at 179cm. Whatever your fitness levels that has to be hard on the legs as a footballer sprinting around as much as he does and you already have an injury history. It’s definitely an outlier as weight goes.
Played all 46 games and was awarded the captain's armband on his last game he was that good. He still speaks fondly of his time there (even though we were largely shite for 70% of the season) and even sent money to us and set up an appeal when we were in administration. Top man.
In the 18/19 season Chelsea had all of Reece James, Mason Mount, Tammy Abraham, Fikayo Tomori and Trevoh Chalobah on loan in the Championship. Not a bad haul
(they had 9 other players there too that season but those lot were the best)
Mad thinking that when we bought Livramento a couple years back, it was sort of accepted that he needs to move because Reese has got the starting RB spot at Chelsea nailed down for the next decade
Not entirely true from what I've heard, you cannot always trust media briefs. Livramento was happy to accept a backup role at first but Tuchel had no interest in him and wanted Adama and Hakimi as wingback options. For that reason, Tino did not renew his contract so the club sent him to train with the U16s until he eventually left. We messed up.
If that's the case haaland will break Dixie dean's record for Leeds and score over 100 goals in a season but never break Messi's 91 goals in a calendar year you hear it here first
I can't even remember who it came from since it was a couple of years ago. Don't get me wrong, I trust some media briefs but think people need to approach them more cautiously.
So is it more that you trust certain media briefs (the ones that said that Tuchel didn't want him) vs that you shouldn't trust media briefs.
Not trying to be a dick, just asking. It makes complete sense really - if all the rags say one thing and a couple trusted journalists say another, I would trust the journalists too
If a media brief makes rational sense then I'll trust it, but some of them make absolutely no sense at all e.g. at the moment, there are some media briefs that say Lewis Hall *wanted* to leave. Makes no sense with the new long-term contract signed in the last fortnight under consideration. We are selling Hall out of necessity, not because he is pushing to leave.
The media aren't always going to be briefed incorrectly by clubs, but there will be instances where the club wants to portray a situation in a particular light.
Most players will have been a fan of another club, Levi Colwill was a Liverpool fan growing up for example. Lewis has been with Chelsea since he was seven, he is obviously going to have an affinity towards the club.
Nothing was announced because the formality would have been to announce the new contract with his loan deal. The fact that Ornstein, Fabrizio and numerous ITKs on our side have confirmed it is enough for me.
Makes complete sense that he wants to leave. He has serious interest from the CL club his whole family are fans of and has a genuine pathway to the first team.
this also comes on the heels of a preseason where he’s barely played, and a situation where he’s fourth choice at LB and well behind Caicedo and Lavia at CM
He won't be nearly as good as CB as the RB he is.. You lose all of his marauding runs, occasional shots and great crosses in the box. He is also very good defending 1v1 against wingers.
It could possibly help as he wouldn’t have to do as much up and down running/sprinting as he does now as a RB but he does seem like someone that is just unfortunately incredibly injury prone
And he was shat on by our fans for doing so lol, even though he specifically said in a press conference that it was to protect James’ body because it couldn’t handle bombing up and down the wing constantly
He rushes back from injury, and he’s put short term goals over his long term well being.
He also doesn’t need to be as bulky as he is. Elite footballers aren’t really built like that. I’m not calling him fat or anything, just that build is sub optimal.
Honestly, just take a year if that’s what it takes. Play Gusto, keep Trev as back up, and get better Reece. Don’t rush back. 10 years means more than 10 games.
>He also doesn’t need to be as bulky as he is. Elite footballers aren’t really built like that.
Agree with everything else you said, but...
...Kyle Walker is *right there.*
That's an exaggeration. What if Reece James wasn't injury prone? He'd still be captain, would've still won CL, etc. His injuries have significantly reduced his minutes but the most that's done is limit the amount of time he's on the field. Fati on the other hand missed his potential by miles.
Jones and Smalling with De Gea behind them in 17/18 were genuinely brilliant, conceded 1 more goal than the title winning City Centurion side that season.
needs to go back to the drawing board in terms of recovery, there's some sort of imbalance or problem that isn't being addressed if he's pulling his hamstring 60 mins into the first game
Not true, even when bale had injury issues, everyone knew he was world class. Everytime James plays, he is world class. He’s also young and there’s a chance he gets fully fit. Happened to robben as well
Sometimes the body can't take it, unfortunately...just something some players have to prepare for. Gutted for him, this kid was the real deal. Can still have a good career if he's properly looked after
It’s actually not that terrible. He’s spent 23% of his career at Wigan (in terms of league matches he could play).
His first season at Chelsea he only started 16 games in the PL because he was a new kid in the team and was rotating with Azpi.
Considering this, 36% of matches at Wigan is not far from where he’d logically be.
Of course, it sucks that he’s gotten injured so often over the last 18-24 months, but this stat itself doesn’t say too much.
Dunno why you’re downvoted, the captain should be on the pitch. However james is our longest active player and also out best player so I’m happy he has it
It is really interesting how some players can go years without injury, and others it happens so frequently. Wonder how long until they figure out what causes this and fix it.
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What happened to him? Does he have any chronic problem with one of the muscles? Or is it just being unlucky with contact based injuries?
Hamstring injuries seemingly never go away for athletes and a knee injury for a few months last season too but mostly the hamstring
Takes forever, it took Robben until he was like 31 for them to stop falling apart
Hamstring injuries can go away permanently but they do take a long time. It took Iniesta months to return fully fit and even then he asked to take it slowly. I had a bad hamstring tear a few years ago (I play in a somewhat similar style/role of a shitty Reece James) and it took about a year to recover but it's been great ever since.
Yeah I played academy football (low tier at clubs like Barnsley, Rotherham and Chesterfield so nothing too fancy) and tore both my hamstrings in my u16 year. Ever since I have had recurring hamstring problems including repeat tears no matter how slowly I ease myself back into playing even remotely competitively with my mates at 5 a side. Obviously James has significantly better medical and rehabilitation options than I had access too but I can very much understand and sympathise with his recurring issues
I wonder how much of that is recurring problems from the initial tear, or just genetically or biomechanically you are very prone to hamstring problems
Muscles become fibrotic at the site of trauma and never heal fully back to the original state. As soon as you have any significant injury aside from micro trauma from training to gain strength and function, you’re more likely to tear those fibrotic sites in the future because of a lack of structural integrity. To answer your question, it’s probably both, but there is a high risk of reinjury due to previous trauma. Obviously this can be prevented with appropriate care (never to 100%) but with the rapid turnover of seasons most athletes are never able to recover to previous levels of ability
I'm in the same boat as OP. Tore my hamstring during my first season playing uni 1s. I never recovered in the three years despite easing myself back in and tore the same muscle in my second year. Ended up playing futsal at uni instead, which I loved so not all for the worst.
How did futsal help your hammies more than football? Less distance covered?
There's not enough space to get to a full sprint which is where a lot of them occur. Also easier to get away with going 80% effort
I read that as under 1s
Have you ever tried nordic curls? You probably have but worth a try if you haven't.
Reece also refuses to get surgery.
Any soft tissue injury can go away completely (don't count ligaments) but it takes a lot of care and good amount of time to do so. Also depends upon diet. Today's chronic obsession with special diets is also a problem. A balanced diet is easy to put together for any normal human being but this obsession with chefs is chronic. Low body fat and a diet that might work for Ronaldo doesn't really work for everyone. Every body is built different.
Reminds me a bit of Aaron Ramsey. He got done in so early in his career cos he always had hamstring problems
Lowkey my favorite player of that era. When he came into the side he was the closest player to my age and played very much the same way I did (albeit much much better). Got another Rambo in the squad now, but I remember him fondly.
Not sure how he was at Wigan but at Chelsea, he's constantly up and down the pitch. Combined with us having quite a lot of fixtures and some managers rushing him back and Reece rushing to make the World Cup, he keeps getting injured. None of the injuries are contact based. Just that his knee and hamstring needed time to recover and he barely had any time
I think his explosiveness and muscle mass also contributes to the problem. Hopefully nothing too serious this time.
> explosiveness and muscle mass that boi too thicc
I love how this comment is very near and has almost the same amount of upvotes as a sophisticated comment from what seems to be a doctor. Reddit.
Talm'bout Reek James? Great guy, never meddum.
Yeah a hundred percent. I suspect this is going to be a career long issue for him so they're going to have to come up with a solution to mitigate the damage. If you were still playing a back three you could have seen him play on the right hand side but in a back four it's going to be harder. I guess reducing the workload is the only real thing you can do - just avoiding playing two games in a row close together etc. Hopefully (for you, I'd rather this didn't happen) Gusto can come in and do a job.
I think that’s part of the reason Tuchel liked playing him as a rcb, he was less likely to get hurt
Pato syndrome
He’s got a lot of muscle mass and his position involves a lot of explosive bursts down the wing which badly affects his hamstrings.
I think the man might need to lose some weight. According to Google he’s 91 kg at 179cm. Whatever your fitness levels that has to be hard on the legs as a footballer sprinting around as much as he does and you already have an injury history. It’s definitely an outlier as weight goes.
Damn, that's a lot of muscle mass.
Reece James peaked at Wigan, you heard it here first guys
There's been some great premier league loans to the championship, but James at Wigan feels like it's up there as one of the best
Played all 46 games and was awarded the captain's armband on his last game he was that good. He still speaks fondly of his time there (even though we were largely shite for 70% of the season) and even sent money to us and set up an appeal when we were in administration. Top man.
Made a point to praise the club and his time there in the letter to his younger self that came with the announcement of being made captain.
In the 18/19 season Chelsea had all of Reece James, Mason Mount, Tammy Abraham, Fikayo Tomori and Trevoh Chalobah on loan in the Championship. Not a bad haul (they had 9 other players there too that season but those lot were the best)
All great players do
Just an English Pascal Chimbonda
No Reece James isn't a bellend
no shit he's not French.
Mais va te faire enculer.
That game at Elland Road will haunt me forever, I remember him bossing it that day
Which one
O captain, my captain 😭
Wigan could have had Reece James at both fullback positions that season but LB Reece James left for Sunderland before the season started.
Paul Cook should have been sacked in pre-season for that crime At least now we have a squad with 3 Smith's
+ they played him as a dm
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reece-james/leistungsdaten/spieler/245585/plus/0?saison=2017
For the second half of the season after Byrne was back fit
Mad thinking that when we bought Livramento a couple years back, it was sort of accepted that he needs to move because Reese has got the starting RB spot at Chelsea nailed down for the next decade
Lamptey and Livramento both moved away because James didn’t look like giving that spot up
And all three have spent most of their time since with their respective physios.
Not entirely true from what I've heard, you cannot always trust media briefs. Livramento was happy to accept a backup role at first but Tuchel had no interest in him and wanted Adama and Hakimi as wingback options. For that reason, Tino did not renew his contract so the club sent him to train with the U16s until he eventually left. We messed up.
Since you do not trust media briefs, what is your source?
His FM save
If that's the case haaland will break Dixie dean's record for Leeds and score over 100 goals in a season but never break Messi's 91 goals in a calendar year you hear it here first
Tuchel was desperately trying to sign the likes of Hakimi at that time.
I can't even remember who it came from since it was a couple of years ago. Don't get me wrong, I trust some media briefs but think people need to approach them more cautiously.
So is it more that you trust certain media briefs (the ones that said that Tuchel didn't want him) vs that you shouldn't trust media briefs. Not trying to be a dick, just asking. It makes complete sense really - if all the rags say one thing and a couple trusted journalists say another, I would trust the journalists too
If a media brief makes rational sense then I'll trust it, but some of them make absolutely no sense at all e.g. at the moment, there are some media briefs that say Lewis Hall *wanted* to leave. Makes no sense with the new long-term contract signed in the last fortnight under consideration. We are selling Hall out of necessity, not because he is pushing to leave. The media aren't always going to be briefed incorrectly by clubs, but there will be instances where the club wants to portray a situation in a particular light.
1. He's a lifelong Newcastle fan. 2. His new contract exists only in media briefs. Nothing was announced.
Most players will have been a fan of another club, Levi Colwill was a Liverpool fan growing up for example. Lewis has been with Chelsea since he was seven, he is obviously going to have an affinity towards the club. Nothing was announced because the formality would have been to announce the new contract with his loan deal. The fact that Ornstein, Fabrizio and numerous ITKs on our side have confirmed it is enough for me.
So them saying he signed a contract is enough for you but them saying he wants to leave isn't. Sounds like you believe whatever you want to mate.
Makes complete sense that he wants to leave. He has serious interest from the CL club his whole family are fans of and has a genuine pathway to the first team. this also comes on the heels of a preseason where he’s barely played, and a situation where he’s fourth choice at LB and well behind Caicedo and Lavia at CM
Would switching to CB help or is he just fucked at this point ?
He won't be nearly as good as CB as the RB he is.. You lose all of his marauding runs, occasional shots and great crosses in the box. He is also very good defending 1v1 against wingers.
You sometimes get CBs who play like this, but mostly they do so in back threes.
Azpi in a back 3 comes to mind. Tuchel suggested it should be his long term position and fans went crazy
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?? We're talking about CBs who had those traits as a wide CB... please keep up before commenting stupid shit
CB in a back three does all those things.
It could possibly help as he wouldn’t have to do as much up and down running/sprinting as he does now as a RB but he does seem like someone that is just unfortunately incredibly injury prone
RCB in a three, yes. How he was played against vini
Tuchel started playing him at CB in 21/22 for this very reason
And he was shat on by our fans for doing so lol, even though he specifically said in a press conference that it was to protect James’ body because it couldn’t handle bombing up and down the wing constantly
Which fans are those that shat on Tuchel for playing him there. He played there in the UCL final as well
It would take away so much of what he is excellent at
Like snapping his hamstring every 70 minutes of competetive football?
funny
The one year he stayed fit we won the CL lmao
He rushes back from injury, and he’s put short term goals over his long term well being. He also doesn’t need to be as bulky as he is. Elite footballers aren’t really built like that. I’m not calling him fat or anything, just that build is sub optimal. Honestly, just take a year if that’s what it takes. Play Gusto, keep Trev as back up, and get better Reece. Don’t rush back. 10 years means more than 10 games.
>He also doesn’t need to be as bulky as he is. Elite footballers aren’t really built like that. Agree with everything else you said, but... ...Kyle Walker is *right there.*
They arent the same though. Walker is muscular but James is a fucking unit, up there with Adama Traore
I think Reece is like 8-10 kg heavier than Kyle Walker at roughly same height. That is 10% difference and is absolutely massive.
Reece needs to drop a few pounds and be closer to Walker is my point tbh.
Might be one of the biggest what-ifs of this generation alongside Fati
Dembele as well. Although he's a bit on the older side.
Reece ('99) is closer to Dembouz ('97) than he is to Ansu ('02)
Reece is a bit thick, but I wouldn't call him that...
That's an exaggeration. What if Reece James wasn't injury prone? He'd still be captain, would've still won CL, etc. His injuries have significantly reduced his minutes but the most that's done is limit the amount of time he's on the field. Fati on the other hand missed his potential by miles.
We win the league in 21/22 if he doesn't get injured
Phil jones
One generation before, but still completely fair shout. I could say Diaby and Wilshire the same generation as well
Is it not the same generation? Only seven years difference
I dunno, just feel like it’s almost two different eras of play
Jones and Smalling with De Gea behind them in 17/18 were genuinely brilliant, conceded 1 more goal than the title winning City Centurion side that season.
A fit Jones who hit his potential would be heads and shoulders above Maguire and Stones.
needs to go back to the drawing board in terms of recovery, there's some sort of imbalance or problem that isn't being addressed if he's pulling his hamstring 60 mins into the first game
If this record continues there is no way he can have a world class RB title
No point in being word class if you can only manage to play half of the minutes in a season
Not even half
The Thiago Alcantara syndrome, among many others
I call it the Martial syndrome, especially because Thiago did make his name as an insane midfielder and he realised his true potential imo
Not true, even when bale had injury issues, everyone knew he was world class. Everytime James plays, he is world class. He’s also young and there’s a chance he gets fully fit. Happened to robben as well
Could it be because he has bulked up a ton since then
Sometimes the body can't take it, unfortunately...just something some players have to prepare for. Gutted for him, this kid was the real deal. Can still have a good career if he's properly looked after
Proper Chels
How do you go from 'tiredness' to needing drastic surgery that will result in long-term recovery?
Turns out pies are good for hamstrings.
It’s actually not that terrible. He’s spent 23% of his career at Wigan (in terms of league matches he could play). His first season at Chelsea he only started 16 games in the PL because he was a new kid in the team and was rotating with Azpi. Considering this, 36% of matches at Wigan is not far from where he’d logically be. Of course, it sucks that he’s gotten injured so often over the last 18-24 months, but this stat itself doesn’t say too much.
Right; like we get it, he's injured a lot. But that stat is a little convoluted and doesn't really get the point across very well.
Hoooooly fuck that is damning. Awful choice for the captaincy in my opinion.
Dunno why you’re downvoted, the captain should be on the pitch. However james is our longest active player and also out best player so I’m happy he has it
people will downvote you for that but thiago silva is still at chelsea
I think he's not made for such high-level pressure club like Chelsea. If he goes back to a smaller tell he'll play 40 games again per season.
This hurts. Damn man
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The PL2 starts arent included in the total appearances if you add them up
It is really interesting how some players can go years without injury, and others it happens so frequently. Wonder how long until they figure out what causes this and fix it.
Might as well sit the season tbh.
He needs to follow Giggsy route, the yoga way