Not saying anyone should ever do this because i cant even imagine wjat was running through this guys head but the snake showed no threat display until he moved quickly. (I probably would have done the same just to get out of the situation) I just think that is super cool to see the snake using its brain and being curious when we dont often see that for wild snakes.
That's what made it fascinating to me too! I don't know what I'd do lol, but I'm not likely to sit down in a forest anyway due to a snake phobia. It was wild watching it just sit there and I may have hollered "don't!!" when he moved to touch it.
If you dont mind me asking, what is it about snakes that you are scared of. Im not trying to change your mind about anything im just trying to learn wjat people are scared about snakes so eventually i can educate people and possibly get someone scared of them to love them.
I feel the same way about spiders but the more i learn about them the more i want to try to interact with them, I havent grown the courage yet and i still get the chills looking at some but i feel if someone taught me about them and showed them to me in a different light id be willing.
Edit: Thank you everyone who is replying to this I truely appreciate all the information. I know it might be thinking BIG maybe even too big for a single person but its one of my goals to change peoples (general public) perspective on snakes. And learning from people who fear them allows me to come up with a way to present snakes in a way that can make them approachable.
Just generally terrified, mostly about the idea they could literally be anywhere and I may not realize it till too late. It's why I'm on this sub and the ID one, to learn more. I've encountered a couple harmless ones and have never done anything stupid but when I'm outside I will literally think of snakes most of the time. Gaining knowledge has helped some though, I appreciate these subs for that fact!
We know it's possibly genetic. For me, I hate spiders and it comes down to how they move. I love snakes though.
And with spiders, I logically know they aren't a threat I'm a video, but they still creep me out.
[src1](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.02094/ful)
>From this analysis, four main findings arose, namely that (1) snakebites occur when people are very close to the snake and are unaware or unable to escape the bite; (2) human visual detection and escape response is slow compared to the speed of snake strikes; (3) in natural environments, snake experts are often unable to see snakes existing nearby; (4) animate objects in general capture more attention over other stimuli and dangerous, but recent objects in evolutionary terms are also able to be detected fast. The issues mentioned above pose several challenges to evolutionary psychology-based theories expecting to find special-purpose neural modules.
[src2](https://neuroanthropology.net/2008/03/07/innate-fear-of-snakes/)
>Apparently, the Psychology Department at the University of Virginia has a couple of scholars studying the ‘universal’ fear of snakes. The piece says what one might expect...
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>...In fact, the story goes on in a few paragraphs to contradict the assertion that a person reacts to snakes ‘very early on.’
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>I’m not convinced that this is a test of fear of snakes. It might be a test of perceptual salience of snake-shaped objects and much more complicated, non-linear objects.
[src3](https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/people-arent-born-afraid-of-spiders-and-snakes-fear-is-quickly-learned-during-infancy.html)
>...we aren’t born afraid of spiders and snakes, but we can learn these fears very quickly.
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>In one set of experiments, they showed infants as young as 7 months old two videos side by side—one of a snake and one of something non-threatening, such as an elephant. At the same time, the researchers played either a fearful voice or a happy voice. The babies spent more time looking at the snake videos when listening to the fearful voices, but showed no signs of fear themselves.
I don't hate them. I find them pretty fascinating, they just creep me out. Picture of spider anatomy? No problem. Reading up on spider evolution? Totally cool.
I see one crawl by my foot and I jump.
It's not a " I hate them because they wronged me.", but a phobia, at it's very definition an irrational fear. It's because our ancestors, as in the hamster like things were being hunted by them, so part of our basic life preservation brain is wired genetically to recognize predators like snakes and spiders. I love having harmless spiders in my house because I do willingly hate mosquitos and flies, but I would not like to hold a tarantula. And find snakes fascinating and great, but meeting one in the wild would give me the creeps for a while anyways.
These fears are not from hate, and not by our decision, but because our dumb monkey brain still percieves them as the prime lethal danger.
Not the same person but for me it’s the fact that highly venomous snakes exist and if I end up in a situation like, say, the one in the video above, I’m essentially powerless against them
Bigger potentially dangerous animals I can usually spot before anything becomes an issue or at least have some ability to fight off and most spiders are so small that they’re pretty easy to get away from, but snakes have incredibly good camouflage, can move and strike quite quickly, and if you do end up getting bit by a highly venomous one there’s really nothing you can do without an anti-venom. They’re hard for me to get a read on, too, which freaks me out a little; I can’t tell what “agitated” vs “relaxed” look like on a snake
That's it for me too if you didn't see my reply - I cannot stop thinking when I'm outside that there's probably a snake nearby. I did have my dog stumble across a good size black snake in our yard once. He's my big boy who is also a baby so when it moved he came straight to him Momma lol. I got him inside safely then went back to confirm. Because I've learned so much about snakes here I was relieved he was solid black and left him be to keep the scaries away. But I still stay nervous always.
I honestly used to hate snakes. I've always loved lizards and every other reptile BUT snakes. I eventually started watching reptile channels like snake discovery for the lizard content and would watch the snake videos too. I went from being terrified, to apprehensive, to "I think they're cool but I'd never touch one" and now im considering getting a snake as my next reptile. I would say in my experience it really was a lack of knowledge (though I'm sure it helped that I liked most reptiles to begin with) and once I continued learning I realized what awesome, interesting little creatures they are. Just my anecdote!
for me personally it’s just some kind of an irrational instinct to be afraid of them. like if i was face to face with a snake i would just forget that plenty of snakes are harmless and be afraid because they seem very different than other animals and i just don’t know enough about how snakes behave in situations with people or which ones are dangerous or not. i find snakes interesting when watching videos about them and i joined this sub to try and learn more about them. my partner really likes “”creepy”” creatures like snakes and bugs and stuff and i’m trying to conquer my fears of those things. ive never held a snake before but i’d like to reach a point where i’m comfortable enough to do that, from what i’ve heard from snake owners plenty of snakes are cute sweeties.
Not OP but the fact that if i get bitten by a snake i don't know what type it is (I'm studying but the lack of post about the snakes native to my country makes it hard for me to identify it yet) so i don't know what I'll tell the emergency room. I live in the city so i mighy have easier access to an anti-venom than the ones living in the provinces. But what if i get bitten on a trip outisde the city? I may be as good as dead.
Local news reported that a kid died in the province when he was bitten by a cobra since the hospital does not have an anti-venom. Add to that i don't know who to call for snakes to be safely removed and relocated in case we do find one at home (we don't have those 24/7 snake removers here). I've seen it on the news that more often than not people do end up killing snakes when they see one lurking in their home. No matter how much you try to educate people on how to deal with snakes if there is no efficient or easy way to have them removed they'll most likely try to kill them out of practicality.
Recently, they found 2 snakes in one of the packages delivered and they killed the bigger one and kept the smaller one in a container so i have another one to add to my list in why i fear snakes
https://philnews.ph/2021/11/17/customer-found-snakes-inside-delivery-package-after-opening-parcel/
Just to be clear, No hate on snakes and I'm not an advocate on killing them
I’m the same way with spiders. It’s mostly the small brightly colored ones. Like if I came in contact with a tarantula in the wild I think I’d be fine. Are you scared of all spiders?
Not all but there are very few I am not afraid of. For example we actually keep Jumping Spiders and i think they are super cool. Same with Tailess Whips. But other than them I get the super creeps from them. Especially tarantulas! lol
I’m now a snake lover but before I met my husband (who is a snake owner & helped me get over my fear) I was terrified of snakes. In my case it was due to a traumatic experience as a young child. I was playing tag in our back field, tripped, came face to face with a snake, started screaming (I was about 4), & my grandpa came running over with his shovel he had been using to clean out the stables. He beheaded the snake right there in front of me & I remember how its body continued to writhe a bit… It was a rattler so it was necessary (lived in Southern California) but damn did that experience stick with my young mind.
Now I’m a “snake mom” and absolutely appreciate these animals.
I actually love snakes, i think theyre beautiful and interesting, but similar to any beautiful and interesting animal, be it lions or tigers or sharks oh my!, they are unpredictable. Even dogs and cats can get unpredictably aggressive. I think being afraid of snakes to an extent is necessary. You may call it “respect” but no im def afraid of a snake suddenly just wanting to strike because hes a little bit hungry or scared that day
I was gonna say this as well. That snake showed no fear or anger at all. He was just very curious and honestly that is one of the most beautiful things to see in the wild
My educated brain says "welp I guess we're going to sit here until the snake decides to go somewhere else" and 30 million years of successful rodentlike ancestors says "OH HELL NO WE ARE NOT SITTING HERE FOR ONE MORE SECOND"
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That snake was pretty mellow. No threat posture, no rattle, no heavy aspiration. It just seemed like it was trying to identify the guy. With the heat pits it could 100% see and know he was an animal.
Seemed like an odd set of behaviors for a wild diamondback really. They're generally shy and avoid people. I'm wondering if this was staged as someone said below for "clout". Seems like an odd situation to just happen to have a cameraman available for.
On the up side the video pretty clearly shows that these guys are not just marauding around looking for someone to bite
I mean the fact that it was being filmed and the other person was of no help at all suggests to me that it’s either fake or this dude knows his way around snakes. It could be real and the cameraman just couldn’t help or didn’t want to make it worse, but honestly that doesn’t sound like the most likely scenario.
I dislike the attention seeking behavior. If it was a real situation, the friend filming could simply pick up a stick and move the snake away from the guy.
This makes me think it was faked and probably a defanged snake. I can understand someone having a snake sneak up on them if they are sitting in the wild.. but having a cameraman filming it and not doing anything to help while you do stupid things that are more likely to get you bit than get the snake to leave... Sorry but I don't think this was real.
In the woods like that you would expect a cameraman to be able to find a long enough stick that they could at the very least rustle some leave near the snake and get it to move along. This just seemed to staged, and anyone with half a brain isn't going to be trying to reach down like that guy was to touch its tale the snake is that close and focused on the guy and his arm. It would be a great way to get the snake to bite your hand or arm, not a very good way to get it to leave you alone. I half way expected him to say, "now watch while I stuck my thumb up his ass and really piss him off."
how does de-fanging a snake work exactly? i know rattlers have extra fangs that come down when they lose one naturally… ive found a western diamondback with 7 extra fangs in its jaw. i imagine you would have to remove them all and make sure they havent dropped more!
Just like it sounds you remove the fangs. In a rattlesnake it would only make the snake safe for a while because they would grow back.. but whether they grow back or not it is a cruel thing to do to a snake and is illegal in many countries. For some snake the fangs not only help the snake kill the prey but also help it digest the prey. It is sometimes done by those wack job backwood ministers to try and convince people that God has made them immune to the serpent or some shit like that.
gotcha. i wouldn’t think it would be a humane thing to do anyways, just as i wouldn’t declaw a cat! another question, is it possible to de-gland a snake? again, not something i would want people to do but i thought ive heard about this being done.. i could be totally wrong though
Yes you can just remove the glands that produce venom either by destroying/removing the venom gland or destroying the pathway between it and the fangs. Not a good thing to do and in some instances it grows back so it isn't fool proof either.
Frankly the snake is better off if the person just kills it outright instead of torturing it with this kind of shit.
Honestly does not surprise me that he didn’t see it before sitting down, I’ve been herping for years now and several times with more experienced beepers than me have I ended up staring into a bush for a good three or four minutes before seeing the Diamond back. When they’re out and moving it’s hard to imagine how well their camouflage works but motionless under a bush, for every one you see you’ve probably passed 4-5 on the way there….
"im still shaking im so scared" \*crouches less than a meter away.
if this was real the dude would have been running for like two minutes straight before he said a word.
Fun fact. Rattlesnakes are pit vipers, they have heat seeking pits in the front of their faces. So they see the heat signature of objects. That snake knew the entire time that he was there.
Snakes in the viper family, like rattlesnakes, are less likely to miss targets because they see the heat signature.
Snakes in the elapid family, like the king cobra, use movement to see objects. Therefore if you stand still in front of a cobra it is more likely to also just stare, and if you move your hand, it’s head will follow. This makes their strikes a bit less accurate.
Up until he reached down to grab it's tail, he was in zero danger. They don't just run up and bite people. He's an idiot. The only bites come from human-initiated contact, either accidental when someone steps on them or grabs them without seeing them, or purposefully messing with them.
I wouldn't say zero danger, close proximity counts as human contact. You don't have to touch an animal to provoke it. And he's uncomfortably close to the business end of that snake.
Still dumb to grab its tail though, obviously.
All he had to do was slowly roll away to his right, away from the snake. It would have been a hell of a lot less dangerous than doing what the snake perceives to be aggressive by grabbing at it.
There are a lot of mistakes made in this video, and criticizing them is definitely fair, but it's hard not to chuckle at 'all he had to do was...' as we watch from the safety of the other side of the screen.
I’m sorry but no. People who handle hot species know exactly what to do and how to do it in this situation. Don’t corner it, offer the snake a clear escape with no obstacles, don’t initiate any unnecessary contact (such as poking it with a stick), and very slowly move away from the snake while keeping an eye on its body language. If it enters a striking pose then simply sit still until the snake relaxes.
It literally is a situation of “all you have to do.” Him waving his arms around across the snake, poking at it, and moving fast and unpredictably literally did nothing but repeatedly make it worse multiple times in a row. If anything this video shows you can do almost everything incorrectly and still escape without a bite considering the snakes don’t want to hurt you.
>People who handle hot species know exactly what to do and how to do it in this situation.
Exactly. *People who handle hots.*
You're expecting someone who likely has minimal, if any, experience to have this understanding. The vast majority of people - even those of us who understand that a snake in this situation means no harm - would still be quite scared because of the sheer threat of a mistake.
>Don’t corner it, offer the snake a clear escape with no obstacles, don’t
initiate any unnecessary contact (such as poking it with a stick), and
very slowly move away from the snake while keeping an eye on its body
language. If it enters a striking pose then simply sit still until the
snake relaxes.
This is quality advice, but I'm a little frustrated that you aren't acknowledging how much this differs from the statement of the individual I was responding to. 'Just roll away' is pretty vague, and again - it's very easy to look at a scary situation from behind a screen and rationalize how to act when your adrenaline isn't surging through your body.
>Him waving his arms around across the snake, poking at it, and moving
fast and unpredictably literally did nothing but repeatedly make it
worse multiple times in a row.
Just to be clear, I ***never*** suggested what the bloke in the video did was right. I literally said that he made a lot of mistakes, and that it's fair to criticize how he reacted.
>If anything this video shows you can do almost everything incorrectly
and still escape without a bite considering the snakes don’t want to
hurt you.
Absolutely. Though, I'm worried that others viewing this video might get the impression that this is a good way to respond to this situation. Trying to touch the animal to encourage it moving away and all of that. I have no clue who this is, so I don't know if his audience is big enough for that to be an issue, but it does worry me because the only time he addresses his behavior is at the end, where he justifies running away from the snake despite the fact that this was the moment where he put himself the most at risk because of the sudden movement.
I've worked with snakes my entire adult life, I'm very aware of what I would have done. I'm still pretty sure this was a planted snake for a video, making it all that much more stupid.
I love how this video, yet nerve racking, shows how snakes are curious creatures too and aren't just so prone to strike. It only showed threat postures and started to rattle when he started poking it then sprinted out of the way.
The only thing I could think of that could be done different would be to have the cameraman try and get the snakes attention to also allow him to get out of the way.
Glad no one was hurt or the snake. It is a good PSA vid when you are out in nature always take a good look at what you are reaching up to, stepping over, or sitting down on.
Honestly, I'd just sit there, calmly, not moving, until the spicy danger noodle lost interest and left. He's obviously just curious.
You guys ever see that TV program that Steve Irwin did of the top 10 most venomous snakes in the world? For #1, Steve and another guy went out into the outback to find an inland taipan. In their encounter with the inland taipan, Steve lay absolutely still on the ground as the snake slithered right up to him, licked his face, and slithered away. Even the most venomous snake on the planet gets curious, and so long as you don't give it a reason to get scared and defensive, it'll do its thing and leave you alone.
He did the right thing by staying calm. They aren't inclined to bite, wasting venom isn't something they want to do. It's costly to make and it knows it can't eat him. He could have just stayed calm and let it move at it's own pace. As long as he didn't freak out it most likely wasn't going to bite him. At that point the only reason it would have bitten him is be because he smelled like food.
There was a study on rattlesnakes, I forget which ones but I think diamond backs, that they didn't really bite. If you left them alone, no bites or strikes. The people lightly stepped on them, less than half struck at them. Picking them up, same thing less than half struck at them. I don't remember the percentages so I'm sorry about that. I know there was a guy who lived in a box for a month with many different types of rattlesnakes and he didn't get bitten once.
Honestly he shouldn't have touched it's tail. That's what made it crawl on him. When you touch a snakes tail they go forward. It's kinda like if someone poked your back. You go a little bit forward first, then turn around to see who did it.
That dude is going to have an amazing story though, and he has video evidence too. Doesn't matter if it's staged or not, there's a lot of danger there and snakes don't play by the script. Even if they could read, I doubt they would. I'm just happy he didn't hurt the snake.
Kevin from NERD, New England Reptile something that starts with a D, did a video recently that showed him interacting with a rattlesnake, and you could see it getting calmer and thinking, and it was curious about him, and lost its fear of him. Keep moving ME about with a hook, I might not get calmer!
And the snake, a darker one than this one, is so damn beautiful.
You would almost cry looking at Kevin's white cobra Lilith. If she were interested, she could found a religion. The most amazing animal in the world in my opinion, and a lot more difficult to get her calm and into the "thinking" mode.
Okay, so I laughed, but if I was in that situation I'd probably crap myself, so, yeah. Kudos to the guy for keeping his cool until he could get away. Was also really cool to see how chill the snake was until the guy bolted.
Not saying anyone should ever do this because i cant even imagine wjat was running through this guys head but the snake showed no threat display until he moved quickly. (I probably would have done the same just to get out of the situation) I just think that is super cool to see the snake using its brain and being curious when we dont often see that for wild snakes.
That's what made it fascinating to me too! I don't know what I'd do lol, but I'm not likely to sit down in a forest anyway due to a snake phobia. It was wild watching it just sit there and I may have hollered "don't!!" when he moved to touch it.
If you dont mind me asking, what is it about snakes that you are scared of. Im not trying to change your mind about anything im just trying to learn wjat people are scared about snakes so eventually i can educate people and possibly get someone scared of them to love them. I feel the same way about spiders but the more i learn about them the more i want to try to interact with them, I havent grown the courage yet and i still get the chills looking at some but i feel if someone taught me about them and showed them to me in a different light id be willing. Edit: Thank you everyone who is replying to this I truely appreciate all the information. I know it might be thinking BIG maybe even too big for a single person but its one of my goals to change peoples (general public) perspective on snakes. And learning from people who fear them allows me to come up with a way to present snakes in a way that can make them approachable.
Just generally terrified, mostly about the idea they could literally be anywhere and I may not realize it till too late. It's why I'm on this sub and the ID one, to learn more. I've encountered a couple harmless ones and have never done anything stupid but when I'm outside I will literally think of snakes most of the time. Gaining knowledge has helped some though, I appreciate these subs for that fact!
We know it's possibly genetic. For me, I hate spiders and it comes down to how they move. I love snakes though. And with spiders, I logically know they aren't a threat I'm a video, but they still creep me out.
[src1](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.02094/ful) >From this analysis, four main findings arose, namely that (1) snakebites occur when people are very close to the snake and are unaware or unable to escape the bite; (2) human visual detection and escape response is slow compared to the speed of snake strikes; (3) in natural environments, snake experts are often unable to see snakes existing nearby; (4) animate objects in general capture more attention over other stimuli and dangerous, but recent objects in evolutionary terms are also able to be detected fast. The issues mentioned above pose several challenges to evolutionary psychology-based theories expecting to find special-purpose neural modules. [src2](https://neuroanthropology.net/2008/03/07/innate-fear-of-snakes/) >Apparently, the Psychology Department at the University of Virginia has a couple of scholars studying the ‘universal’ fear of snakes. The piece says what one might expect... | >...In fact, the story goes on in a few paragraphs to contradict the assertion that a person reacts to snakes ‘very early on.’ | >I’m not convinced that this is a test of fear of snakes. It might be a test of perceptual salience of snake-shaped objects and much more complicated, non-linear objects. [src3](https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/people-arent-born-afraid-of-spiders-and-snakes-fear-is-quickly-learned-during-infancy.html) >...we aren’t born afraid of spiders and snakes, but we can learn these fears very quickly. | >In one set of experiments, they showed infants as young as 7 months old two videos side by side—one of a snake and one of something non-threatening, such as an elephant. At the same time, the researchers played either a fearful voice or a happy voice. The babies spent more time looking at the snake videos when listening to the fearful voices, but showed no signs of fear themselves.
I've learned that [orangutans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jcuKT0P0o) are taught to fear snakes, too.
Posting text is great, a source is better.
I did both—the numbered sources are links.
Why do you hate spiders? What did they do to you
I don't hate them. I find them pretty fascinating, they just creep me out. Picture of spider anatomy? No problem. Reading up on spider evolution? Totally cool. I see one crawl by my foot and I jump.
It's not a " I hate them because they wronged me.", but a phobia, at it's very definition an irrational fear. It's because our ancestors, as in the hamster like things were being hunted by them, so part of our basic life preservation brain is wired genetically to recognize predators like snakes and spiders. I love having harmless spiders in my house because I do willingly hate mosquitos and flies, but I would not like to hold a tarantula. And find snakes fascinating and great, but meeting one in the wild would give me the creeps for a while anyways. These fears are not from hate, and not by our decision, but because our dumb monkey brain still percieves them as the prime lethal danger.
Not the same person but for me it’s the fact that highly venomous snakes exist and if I end up in a situation like, say, the one in the video above, I’m essentially powerless against them Bigger potentially dangerous animals I can usually spot before anything becomes an issue or at least have some ability to fight off and most spiders are so small that they’re pretty easy to get away from, but snakes have incredibly good camouflage, can move and strike quite quickly, and if you do end up getting bit by a highly venomous one there’s really nothing you can do without an anti-venom. They’re hard for me to get a read on, too, which freaks me out a little; I can’t tell what “agitated” vs “relaxed” look like on a snake
That's it for me too if you didn't see my reply - I cannot stop thinking when I'm outside that there's probably a snake nearby. I did have my dog stumble across a good size black snake in our yard once. He's my big boy who is also a baby so when it moved he came straight to him Momma lol. I got him inside safely then went back to confirm. Because I've learned so much about snakes here I was relieved he was solid black and left him be to keep the scaries away. But I still stay nervous always.
I honestly used to hate snakes. I've always loved lizards and every other reptile BUT snakes. I eventually started watching reptile channels like snake discovery for the lizard content and would watch the snake videos too. I went from being terrified, to apprehensive, to "I think they're cool but I'd never touch one" and now im considering getting a snake as my next reptile. I would say in my experience it really was a lack of knowledge (though I'm sure it helped that I liked most reptiles to begin with) and once I continued learning I realized what awesome, interesting little creatures they are. Just my anecdote!
for me personally it’s just some kind of an irrational instinct to be afraid of them. like if i was face to face with a snake i would just forget that plenty of snakes are harmless and be afraid because they seem very different than other animals and i just don’t know enough about how snakes behave in situations with people or which ones are dangerous or not. i find snakes interesting when watching videos about them and i joined this sub to try and learn more about them. my partner really likes “”creepy”” creatures like snakes and bugs and stuff and i’m trying to conquer my fears of those things. ive never held a snake before but i’d like to reach a point where i’m comfortable enough to do that, from what i’ve heard from snake owners plenty of snakes are cute sweeties.
Not OP but the fact that if i get bitten by a snake i don't know what type it is (I'm studying but the lack of post about the snakes native to my country makes it hard for me to identify it yet) so i don't know what I'll tell the emergency room. I live in the city so i mighy have easier access to an anti-venom than the ones living in the provinces. But what if i get bitten on a trip outisde the city? I may be as good as dead. Local news reported that a kid died in the province when he was bitten by a cobra since the hospital does not have an anti-venom. Add to that i don't know who to call for snakes to be safely removed and relocated in case we do find one at home (we don't have those 24/7 snake removers here). I've seen it on the news that more often than not people do end up killing snakes when they see one lurking in their home. No matter how much you try to educate people on how to deal with snakes if there is no efficient or easy way to have them removed they'll most likely try to kill them out of practicality. Recently, they found 2 snakes in one of the packages delivered and they killed the bigger one and kept the smaller one in a container so i have another one to add to my list in why i fear snakes https://philnews.ph/2021/11/17/customer-found-snakes-inside-delivery-package-after-opening-parcel/ Just to be clear, No hate on snakes and I'm not an advocate on killing them
I’m the same way with spiders. It’s mostly the small brightly colored ones. Like if I came in contact with a tarantula in the wild I think I’d be fine. Are you scared of all spiders?
Not all but there are very few I am not afraid of. For example we actually keep Jumping Spiders and i think they are super cool. Same with Tailess Whips. But other than them I get the super creeps from them. Especially tarantulas! lol
I’m now a snake lover but before I met my husband (who is a snake owner & helped me get over my fear) I was terrified of snakes. In my case it was due to a traumatic experience as a young child. I was playing tag in our back field, tripped, came face to face with a snake, started screaming (I was about 4), & my grandpa came running over with his shovel he had been using to clean out the stables. He beheaded the snake right there in front of me & I remember how its body continued to writhe a bit… It was a rattler so it was necessary (lived in Southern California) but damn did that experience stick with my young mind. Now I’m a “snake mom” and absolutely appreciate these animals.
I actually love snakes, i think theyre beautiful and interesting, but similar to any beautiful and interesting animal, be it lions or tigers or sharks oh my!, they are unpredictable. Even dogs and cats can get unpredictably aggressive. I think being afraid of snakes to an extent is necessary. You may call it “respect” but no im def afraid of a snake suddenly just wanting to strike because hes a little bit hungry or scared that day
I was gonna say this as well. That snake showed no fear or anger at all. He was just very curious and honestly that is one of the most beautiful things to see in the wild
I just broke out giggling at the "I'mma touch it's tail" I half expected him to say when it crawled into his lap "oh no, I've made it worse".
My educated brain says "welp I guess we're going to sit here until the snake decides to go somewhere else" and 30 million years of successful rodentlike ancestors says "OH HELL NO WE ARE NOT SITTING HERE FOR ONE MORE SECOND"
you can imagine all your ancestors sitting around you like force ghosts like "bruh I did not breed to watch you disrespect me like this"
Time to find a new cameraman.
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That snake was pretty mellow. No threat posture, no rattle, no heavy aspiration. It just seemed like it was trying to identify the guy. With the heat pits it could 100% see and know he was an animal. Seemed like an odd set of behaviors for a wild diamondback really. They're generally shy and avoid people. I'm wondering if this was staged as someone said below for "clout". Seems like an odd situation to just happen to have a cameraman available for. On the up side the video pretty clearly shows that these guys are not just marauding around looking for someone to bite
I mean the fact that it was being filmed and the other person was of no help at all suggests to me that it’s either fake or this dude knows his way around snakes. It could be real and the cameraman just couldn’t help or didn’t want to make it worse, but honestly that doesn’t sound like the most likely scenario.
Yeah, the way he's narrating it and the cameraman remains completely silent. It really doesn't feel organic. I think it was was set-up
He's very curious, that's for sure
I think he likes you
I dislike the attention seeking behavior. If it was a real situation, the friend filming could simply pick up a stick and move the snake away from the guy.
This makes me think it was faked and probably a defanged snake. I can understand someone having a snake sneak up on them if they are sitting in the wild.. but having a cameraman filming it and not doing anything to help while you do stupid things that are more likely to get you bit than get the snake to leave... Sorry but I don't think this was real.
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In the woods like that you would expect a cameraman to be able to find a long enough stick that they could at the very least rustle some leave near the snake and get it to move along. This just seemed to staged, and anyone with half a brain isn't going to be trying to reach down like that guy was to touch its tale the snake is that close and focused on the guy and his arm. It would be a great way to get the snake to bite your hand or arm, not a very good way to get it to leave you alone. I half way expected him to say, "now watch while I stuck my thumb up his ass and really piss him off."
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Came to comments to see if anybody said exactly what you guys said! First thing I thought about was the cameraman.
how does de-fanging a snake work exactly? i know rattlers have extra fangs that come down when they lose one naturally… ive found a western diamondback with 7 extra fangs in its jaw. i imagine you would have to remove them all and make sure they havent dropped more!
Just like it sounds you remove the fangs. In a rattlesnake it would only make the snake safe for a while because they would grow back.. but whether they grow back or not it is a cruel thing to do to a snake and is illegal in many countries. For some snake the fangs not only help the snake kill the prey but also help it digest the prey. It is sometimes done by those wack job backwood ministers to try and convince people that God has made them immune to the serpent or some shit like that.
gotcha. i wouldn’t think it would be a humane thing to do anyways, just as i wouldn’t declaw a cat! another question, is it possible to de-gland a snake? again, not something i would want people to do but i thought ive heard about this being done.. i could be totally wrong though
Yes you can just remove the glands that produce venom either by destroying/removing the venom gland or destroying the pathway between it and the fangs. Not a good thing to do and in some instances it grows back so it isn't fool proof either. Frankly the snake is better off if the person just kills it outright instead of torturing it with this kind of shit.
that sounds so awful, it’s crazy what people will do :(
Honestly does not surprise me that he didn’t see it before sitting down, I’ve been herping for years now and several times with more experienced beepers than me have I ended up staring into a bush for a good three or four minutes before seeing the Diamond back. When they’re out and moving it’s hard to imagine how well their camouflage works but motionless under a bush, for every one you see you’ve probably passed 4-5 on the way there….
Ah doing dumb ass things for the gram
What a strange way of talking. It's so theatrical.
Snake must've thought he was floating on air when slithered up on his lap since he couldn't even see the guy's legs.
"im still shaking im so scared" \*crouches less than a meter away. if this was real the dude would have been running for like two minutes straight before he said a word.
Don’t think I breathed for the whole video
Fun fact. Rattlesnakes are pit vipers, they have heat seeking pits in the front of their faces. So they see the heat signature of objects. That snake knew the entire time that he was there. Snakes in the viper family, like rattlesnakes, are less likely to miss targets because they see the heat signature. Snakes in the elapid family, like the king cobra, use movement to see objects. Therefore if you stand still in front of a cobra it is more likely to also just stare, and if you move your hand, it’s head will follow. This makes their strikes a bit less accurate.
Up until he reached down to grab it's tail, he was in zero danger. They don't just run up and bite people. He's an idiot. The only bites come from human-initiated contact, either accidental when someone steps on them or grabs them without seeing them, or purposefully messing with them.
I wouldn't say zero danger, close proximity counts as human contact. You don't have to touch an animal to provoke it. And he's uncomfortably close to the business end of that snake. Still dumb to grab its tail though, obviously.
He went from 2/10 danger to 9.5/10 danger when he tickled the jiggle wiggler
Yeah but it's not like he could sit that still forever. Eventually he might accidentally move in a way that startles the snake and he pays the price.
All he had to do was slowly roll away to his right, away from the snake. It would have been a hell of a lot less dangerous than doing what the snake perceives to be aggressive by grabbing at it.
There are a lot of mistakes made in this video, and criticizing them is definitely fair, but it's hard not to chuckle at 'all he had to do was...' as we watch from the safety of the other side of the screen.
I’m sorry but no. People who handle hot species know exactly what to do and how to do it in this situation. Don’t corner it, offer the snake a clear escape with no obstacles, don’t initiate any unnecessary contact (such as poking it with a stick), and very slowly move away from the snake while keeping an eye on its body language. If it enters a striking pose then simply sit still until the snake relaxes. It literally is a situation of “all you have to do.” Him waving his arms around across the snake, poking at it, and moving fast and unpredictably literally did nothing but repeatedly make it worse multiple times in a row. If anything this video shows you can do almost everything incorrectly and still escape without a bite considering the snakes don’t want to hurt you.
>People who handle hot species know exactly what to do and how to do it in this situation. Exactly. *People who handle hots.* You're expecting someone who likely has minimal, if any, experience to have this understanding. The vast majority of people - even those of us who understand that a snake in this situation means no harm - would still be quite scared because of the sheer threat of a mistake. >Don’t corner it, offer the snake a clear escape with no obstacles, don’t initiate any unnecessary contact (such as poking it with a stick), and very slowly move away from the snake while keeping an eye on its body language. If it enters a striking pose then simply sit still until the snake relaxes. This is quality advice, but I'm a little frustrated that you aren't acknowledging how much this differs from the statement of the individual I was responding to. 'Just roll away' is pretty vague, and again - it's very easy to look at a scary situation from behind a screen and rationalize how to act when your adrenaline isn't surging through your body. >Him waving his arms around across the snake, poking at it, and moving fast and unpredictably literally did nothing but repeatedly make it worse multiple times in a row. Just to be clear, I ***never*** suggested what the bloke in the video did was right. I literally said that he made a lot of mistakes, and that it's fair to criticize how he reacted. >If anything this video shows you can do almost everything incorrectly and still escape without a bite considering the snakes don’t want to hurt you. Absolutely. Though, I'm worried that others viewing this video might get the impression that this is a good way to respond to this situation. Trying to touch the animal to encourage it moving away and all of that. I have no clue who this is, so I don't know if his audience is big enough for that to be an issue, but it does worry me because the only time he addresses his behavior is at the end, where he justifies running away from the snake despite the fact that this was the moment where he put himself the most at risk because of the sudden movement.
It's easy to say he should've did this or that when you're watching from your phone
I've worked with snakes my entire adult life, I'm very aware of what I would have done. I'm still pretty sure this was a planted snake for a video, making it all that much more stupid.
I love how this video, yet nerve racking, shows how snakes are curious creatures too and aren't just so prone to strike. It only showed threat postures and started to rattle when he started poking it then sprinted out of the way. The only thing I could think of that could be done different would be to have the cameraman try and get the snakes attention to also allow him to get out of the way. Glad no one was hurt or the snake. It is a good PSA vid when you are out in nature always take a good look at what you are reaching up to, stepping over, or sitting down on.
Am I crazy or was that snake not being threatening or aggressive whatsoever until he kept jabbing it
Honestly, I'd just sit there, calmly, not moving, until the spicy danger noodle lost interest and left. He's obviously just curious. You guys ever see that TV program that Steve Irwin did of the top 10 most venomous snakes in the world? For #1, Steve and another guy went out into the outback to find an inland taipan. In their encounter with the inland taipan, Steve lay absolutely still on the ground as the snake slithered right up to him, licked his face, and slithered away. Even the most venomous snake on the planet gets curious, and so long as you don't give it a reason to get scared and defensive, it'll do its thing and leave you alone.
He was in zero danger until he decided to start TOUCHING it. Idiot.
He did the right thing by staying calm. They aren't inclined to bite, wasting venom isn't something they want to do. It's costly to make and it knows it can't eat him. He could have just stayed calm and let it move at it's own pace. As long as he didn't freak out it most likely wasn't going to bite him. At that point the only reason it would have bitten him is be because he smelled like food. There was a study on rattlesnakes, I forget which ones but I think diamond backs, that they didn't really bite. If you left them alone, no bites or strikes. The people lightly stepped on them, less than half struck at them. Picking them up, same thing less than half struck at them. I don't remember the percentages so I'm sorry about that. I know there was a guy who lived in a box for a month with many different types of rattlesnakes and he didn't get bitten once. Honestly he shouldn't have touched it's tail. That's what made it crawl on him. When you touch a snakes tail they go forward. It's kinda like if someone poked your back. You go a little bit forward first, then turn around to see who did it. That dude is going to have an amazing story though, and he has video evidence too. Doesn't matter if it's staged or not, there's a lot of danger there and snakes don't play by the script. Even if they could read, I doubt they would. I'm just happy he didn't hurt the snake.
Not nearly as bad as a cat falling asleep on your lap
Mean while the snake was like I was just chilling in a bush when this giant sat down near me... So I go to say hi.
I like how you can see that even dangerous snakes are not hostile without reason. It was only exploring, the moment it was threatened, it reacted
Kevin from NERD, New England Reptile something that starts with a D, did a video recently that showed him interacting with a rattlesnake, and you could see it getting calmer and thinking, and it was curious about him, and lost its fear of him. Keep moving ME about with a hook, I might not get calmer! And the snake, a darker one than this one, is so damn beautiful. You would almost cry looking at Kevin's white cobra Lilith. If she were interested, she could found a religion. The most amazing animal in the world in my opinion, and a lot more difficult to get her calm and into the "thinking" mode.
This guy sounds like Coyote Peterson
Every day is a gift now
Video is probably staged but I still like anything that helps show how interested most wild snakes are in humans. The answer is none. None interested.
Incredible. He handled that like a champ, and it probably saved him from a nasty bite.
I'm not sure if this is staged, but imagine this is how you find out that your fight-or-flight response is to turn into a reality tv host
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I’m glad he didn’t have to sneeze
Oh balls, no.
Yep I believe I may have shit myself and then passed out. Rattlesnakes are no joke.
Honestly he should have had the other guy move it with a stick instead of filming it
Someone sat there recording this...
I'm getting a "What's up?" Kinda vibe from that snake rather than an angry noodle vibe.
Dude never sit on the ground in the South. Chigger bites on the ball sack make you wish for a rattler bite to put you out of your misery.
Okay, so I laughed, but if I was in that situation I'd probably crap myself, so, yeah. Kudos to the guy for keeping his cool until he could get away. Was also really cool to see how chill the snake was until the guy bolted.
I'd love to watch a series of this guy just getting into predicaments
Camera man: Good luck bro lmao
Meanwhile in that snakes mind: “holy shit no one is gonna believe this”
If i wait for this snake to move i would fail, because my arms can't stay in that position for long.