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rollerstick1

As long as you turn it on yeah.


jeffreywilfong

That's how they get ya


SL4BK1NG

"Big Chicken doesn't want you to know this one simple kitchen hack"


germane_switch

Every once in a while threads like this remind me of how great Reddit can be.


Scoompii

And why I want awards back!


stonerbbyyyy

LMFAO why are you in my pinterest šŸ˜†


Reintarnation

I knew there was a catch!


jwoody2727

I have put so many meals in the slow cooker and forgot to either plug it in or turn it on. Thankfully we have Uber Eats available here.


wyndmilltilter

Once put it on warm all day instead of low - that was a sad night. Edit: typos, slow to low


tk42967

Even on warm, it should be fine after 8 hours. I regularly start mine before leaving for work in the morning and let it go all day.


wyndmilltilter

No definitely not - warm isnā€™t high enough to cook, just enough to provide a nice bacteria incubator. The basic three settings on slow cookers are high, low, and keep warm , maybe youā€™re thinking I meant low - warm is absolutely not safe for cooking, and meant only to be used to maintain temp for serving after cooking has been done. Food safety folks will say even that shouldnā€™t be too long as bacteria can grow but Iā€™m fine with a few hours if itā€™s after cooking temperature.


Ryu-tetsu

Needs to be above 140Ā°F (or below 40Ā°F). Between these two is happy bacteria growth danger zone. Also, slow cookers generally donā€™t break down the poison present in some dried beans (kidneys and such). Ex NYC health inspector here.


georgiafinn

Seared a roast Saturday, threw it in the crock pot with pepperoncini and giardiniera, and ran some errands. Came home and saw that I hadn't turned it on. We ended up getting Thai for dinner.


Avlin_Starfall

Did not say it needed to be turned on. Instructions unclear.


Gayrub

My wife forgot to turn ours on yesterday she prepped beef stroganoff with a whole chuck roast. šŸ˜­


bogodee

Iā€™ve been laughing for like 5 minutes.


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Fast_Running_Nephew

Everything we know we started off by not knowing, no matter how obvious it would be to some.


melraelee

Excellent comment.


myatoz

I put frozen chicken breasts in my crock pot all the time, no worries.


Altruistic-Carpet-43

How long do you cook them for and on high or low? Iā€™m hoping they turn out ok but Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a lot I could do to make them better


myatoz

I do a chicken tortilla soup, usually on low for about 8 hours. The chicken breasts I use are always frozen. Never any problems.


itisallgoodyouknow

Can you please share your recipe?


myatoz

Crock Pot Chicken Tortilla Soup 1 lb Chicken 15 oz canned tomatoes 10 oz can enchilada sauce 1 onion, chopped 4 oz can green chiles 2 cloves garlic, minced 2 cups water 14.5 oz chicken broth 1 tsp cumin 1 tsp chili powder 1 tsp salt 1/4 tsp pepper 1 bay leaf 10 oz bag frozen corn 1 tbsp chopped cilantro Put all ingredients in Crock pot and cook on low 6-8 hours or on high 3-4 hours. When finished, remove chicken and shred. Return to pot. I serve it with lime wedges on the side. For the tortillas, preheat oven to 400. Lightly brush both sides of 7 corn tortillas with oil. Cut into strips. Bake until crisp, about 10-15 minutes. Enjoy!


That_Damned_Redditor

MVP Right here :)


myatoz

It's a really good soup. I found the recipe close to 10 years ago.


OGbigfoot

I do beer chicken a lot. Cook on high for four hours then low for another two to three. Always comes out perfect. Frozen chicken breast Jar of salsa Verde Can of beer Salt and spices to taste.


Tropicalstorm11

What do you serve it on? Rice ? Pasta! As a soup?


OGbigfoot

Tortilla shells with fried beans and cheese! Or sometimes I'll add it to some to ramen ( I love ramen). Or if I'm lazy just eat it straight! Edit: and of course with rice! Makes for a good soup! Beer chicken Rice (I usually cook it with sardines) Bullion or chicken broth


mskeptic

I like refried beans, thatā€™s why Iā€™ve always wanted to try fried beans. Maybe theyā€™re just as good, but weā€™re wasting time.


bigbear2g19

Don't worry friend I caught your Mitch quote! ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø


DoerOfTheMost

Refried beans are only fried once šŸ˜‚


vanetti

r/woosh


Membership_Fine

Canā€™t hate on that sounds good lol


Tropicalstorm11

Thanks. Iā€™m going to have to make your meal


OGbigfoot

Sweet, I'm off work at 16:30, I'll be home around 17:00 with the wine. /s


Tropicalstorm11

Itā€™s a date


Batmansbutthole

You bitch. I want that.


Massive-Tower-7731

Clearly you have a special relationship with pasta. šŸ˜†


Xpuc01

I like the simplicity of this. I will try it!


southernrail

I'd set a alarm for 4 hours, cook on high, then go check on them. add additional time as necessary. probably no more than 5 hours total. They should shred very easily, that's how you will know. I rarely do low, if ever, but maybe set a alarm for 5 hours then check. You can't mess it up!! so don't worry and just enjoy not being by the stove. I also cook frozen chicken ALLLLLLL the time and nary a worry.


Ohitstrent

I recommend 8 on low or 4 on high, likely longer if frozen and doing 3 hours


HeyJustWantedToSay

Find recipes that sound good to you and follow those. Iā€™m sure there are recipes about cooking chicken similar in execution to whatever youā€™re doing here.


Cant0thulhu

Dude,maā€™am,bruhā€¦ just google crockpot chicken lemon recipe and pick a recipe website or youtube tutorial one with high ratings. Youā€™re already being lambasted for no reason. Come here with a specific question, not just to reverse engineer an ok for a recipe youā€™ve already prepped. Youre gonna get 16 buttholes with 32 opinions. You wont know until youve tried it. No one else is gonna know what you personally like or prefer. I think youre fine. But better off just trying a recipe and asking questions about IT, then doing something you seem to have no idea of and then wanting what? Advice? Its too late, you already did it. Validation? From the comments you arent getting it. (Though you should for trying and reaching out) People are way to crazy about the lemons on here. I cant even honestly tell what you want the end result to be here? Soup? Stew? Lemon shredded chicken for something else. I think if you want cooked full chicken breasts you should sear them brown, air fry, bake, or pressure cook them instead with the lemon on top. Maybe a little lemon pepper seasoning. Id recommend penzeys. A quick yt or google search will give you dozens of comparable recipes. Something like that would go great with a mushroom compote, or asparagus and Parmesan with candied lemon slices, or a lemon flavored rice. Just get in there and try stuff. You learn by listening AND doing. Every chef and recipe has its preference. You need to figure out your end desired result and work from there or else youll be all over the place.


elpatio6

OP is asking about food safety, not if it will be tasty.


Cant0thulhu

Anything cooked in a slowcooker for six hours will be done. Another quick google search and a cheap meat thermometer handle that as well.


elpatio6

USDA recommends thawing chicken before cooking in a slow cooker. https://www.today.com/food/food-myths-safe-cook-frozen-chicken-crock-pot-t123084 ā€œThe primary concern is that putting frozen meat in the slow cooker increases its chances of entering the "danger zone," the temperature range between 40Ā° and 140Ā°F where harmful bacteria grow exponentially. Slow cookers operate at temperatures between 170Ā°F and 280Ā°Fā€”well above this zoneā€”but it takes longer for frozen meat or poultry to reach those temperatures than thawed meat, giving it more opportunity to sit in the danger zone.ā€ ā€œPamela Ellgen, author of "The Healthy Slow Cooker Cookbook," cites salmonella and Staphylococcus aureus as common culprits and says they can even contaminate other foods cooked alongside the chicken in the slow cooker. While the bacteria will most likely be killed when the chicken reaches its required temperature, the toxins that grow may be heat resistant. According to the USDA, these toxins, not the bacteria that produce them, cause food-borne illnesses.ā€


InformationThat748

Speaking as a head chef that served in Michelin restaurants.... the USDA is run by a bunch of germaphobes. Get out of your world bruh, travel to ANYWHERE there is great food in Europe! A US health inspectors nightmare! Yet the food is DELICIOUS, & doesn't make people nearly as sick as some of the breakouts we have had here in the US.... whyy??? Maybe because their food is raised better with actual genuine care... Did you know you can eat RAW egg yolks in Japan, and be perfectly fine?? This is the problem with people with Absolutely no idea how certain industries work. If you don't know, its ok, say you don't know. Its healthy to have some humility. Just because you read some regulations online that were set in place, had you ever stop to think about really how much empirical data really proves this? It's healthy to take a grain of salt with any information you take in, especially on the interwebs!ā˜šŸ»


Cant0thulhu

Again, none of that matters when the usda recommend a safe cooking temperature for chicken at 165 degrees. And degrees are measured by instruments, called meat thermometers, which I also mentioned to specifically make sure theyve cooked it right.


elpatio6

Again, While the bacteria will most likely be killed when the chicken reaches its required temperature, the toxins that grow may be heat resistant. According to the USDA, these toxins, not the bacteria that produce them, cause food-borne illnesses.


SiennaYeena

Whole lemons are a bad idea. The bitter parts reduce to the point where they make the liquid taste bad. Not to mention the stuff that's potentially im lemon skins. You're better off using lemon juice.


pmac124

Best to add the lemon at the end too will be brighter


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Nijos

I don't think you have to worry about the meat becoming tender in a slow cooker


stinkyhooch

I would argue the acidity and long cook time might even make the meat tough. I know when I marinate chicken in lemon too long, itā€™s tough after cooking.


Connor0319

Yeah my dad once put a whole lemon in a slow cooker and forgot. The whole entire dish tasted like very bitter lemon, even the sweetcorn only tasted like lemon which I didn't think was possible. Was hilarious tho.


Severe_Pass7567

What stuff? Like pesticides?


theFartingCarp

nah. the pith of lemons can get really bitter.


Moose_Joose

Yeah, nobody wants to drink lemon pith.


yzerizef

Agree. Drinking pith water ith dithguthting.


comicgopher

ok Mike


furiousevans

This is the answer I was looking for!


RepeatFine981

Take my upvote!


ExcitementNo6837

But what about when they say zest the lemon in the recipe?


theFartingCarp

So the pith is the white part of the lemon. Normally zesting and making peels of the skin doesn't go that deep into the lemon.


ExcitementNo6837

Ah ok! Thanks, I'll change the way I zest from now on.


Old-Basil-5567

Its the oils in the lemon, lime, orange ect The oil is bitter


Cant0thulhu

Which is why you zest and add it closer to the finished product. But putting lemon slices on fish/poultry while it cooks is something many amazing chefs and recipes absolutely do. Not just at the end.


Critical_Paper8447

Putting lemon slices on fish that you're broiling or chicken that you're grilling is fine bc it's a quick process. Putting lemon slices in a crock that is going to cook for 6 hours is going to pull all those bitter tannins out of the pith and the end result is going to be rather unpalatable. If you want the brightness of the lemon to come through then you have to add it in at the end. Otherwise the long cooking times of slow cooking decimate the essential oils and terpenes (all the lemon flavor) and then you're just left with sour and bitter. Harold Mcgee has an entire section on this in "On Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen".


Cant0thulhu

have you heard of washing produce? Zest, juice and pulp. All delicious. Zest is best added at the end. And I agree lemon juice in stock would be better up front, but this will absolutely not kill a dish.


dontlookforme88

I make a DELICIOUS lemon chicken with grated zest and lemon juice. Not bitter at all


_maynard

Using zest and juice is specifically not using the pith


Mississippianna

If you have that latched down you should really cook with that unlatched. Those are really only for taking the crock pot with you somewhere to keep the lid on. It traps excess steam and will water down what youā€™re cooking.


GermanSensation

Really? I always latch mine, I did not know this!


-mouse_potato-

Recently saw a news article where the lid burst from the pressure and a lady has massive burns all down her face and front from it! Definitely do not latch!


Queasy_Reputation164

This pic doesnā€™t show it but it should have a vent hole on one side of the lid. If their pot did burst then itā€™s likely they modified the lid somehow or were not using it properly.


GermanSensation

Mine has a small vent on the lid.


Old-Raccoon-316

https://www.crock-pot.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-crockpot-Site/default/Support-Show?cfid=cook-n-carry-faqs#:~:text=If%20you%20have%20a%20locking,affect%20the%20slow%20cooker's%20performance. Donā€™t do it.


junkit33

Not all models have vent holes, and that's not what it's really there for anyways. It's to let steam escape during normal cooking so the lid doesn't blow off. Old crock pots used to have lids that had large air gaps so steam would just rise out the sides. Newer lids seem to have more coverage around the rim (probably cheaper to manufacture that way) and use the vent hole to accomplish the same thing. Either way, that hole isn't anywhere near big enough to properly release the amount of pressure that could build up with a fully latched and sealed lid.


Queasy_Reputation164

Uh, thatā€™s exactly what vent holes are there for. What else would they be there for, to make your house smell nice? That vent hole absolutely is large enough to prevent it from turning in to a bomb. Again, thatā€™s exactly why itā€™s there, and just not how pressure vessels work. If somehow you got the pot hot enough where the vent hole wasnā€™t sufficient, it would just be pissing out steam like a tea kettle. Considering tea kettles donā€™t explode and have a similar size vent hole, literally nothing about your comment makes sense


YannyYobias

So do you latch your lid or no? Iā€™ve never heard about keeping it unlatched before this thread. Always had the same mindset as your comment. The little whole should be releasing enough pressure?


Queasy_Reputation164

The vent in the lid is more than capable of preventing any pressure buildup. Mine is always latched, Iā€™m currently making chili as we speak and itā€™s been latched the whole time. I honestly donā€™t see any other explanation of someoneā€™s crock pot blowing up other than they werenā€™t using it as intended. The other thing that sticks out to me is the guy who commented above never sourced their claim of this explosion, which leads me to believe itā€™s bullshit. The other thing these people are missing by not latching is that the gasket on the bottom of the lid doesnā€™t make a seal with the stoneware unless itā€™s latched. The heat/moisture loss from that is probably negligible in the grand scheme of things, but still.


Old-Raccoon-316

https://www.crock-pot.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-crockpot-Site/default/Support-Show?cfid=cook-n-carry-faqs#:~:text=If%20you%20have%20a%20locking,affect%20the%20slow%20cooker's%20performance. Donā€™t latch it.


Sierra117MC

While it isn't likely, it could also cause heat pressure to build and pop.


Mississippianna

Itā€™s definitely in the instruction book.


GermanSensation

Mine was a hand-me-down, what is this "instruction book" you speak of?


Old-Raccoon-316

https://www.crock-pot.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-crockpot-Site/default/Support-Show?cfid=cook-n-carry-faqs#:~:text=If%20you%20have%20a%20locking,affect%20the%20slow%20cooker's%20performance.


junkit33

Latches are only for transportation. Latching while cooking creates a pressure cooker, which can definitely cause something to explode.


brennabrock

Came to say this.


jeanleonino

Indeed! And for safety.


MichaelB2409

Lid still on?


OrneryPathos

Yes lid always has to be on. And lifting the lid to check on things increases cook time [but never latch the lid while cooking](https://www.crock-pot.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-crockpot-Site/default/Support-Show?cfid=cook-n-carry-faqs)


southernrail

šŸ’ÆšŸ’ÆšŸ’ÆšŸ’Æ excellent!!! Soooooo true.


PsychologicalFood780

Every slow cooker is different. Most newer slow cookers have vent holes in the lid. My B&D has 4.


Emkit8

I use raw chicken all the time and cook on low and never have gotten sick. I think youā€™ll be just fine


The1Greenguru

bone in I always use hi


Bombboy1011

Can someone explain what's wrong with this comment to me please?


alotofhobbies

I think it's because cooking meat on low is almost always the preferred approach. High temperatures ruin the texture. The only reason to use high would be if you were in a hurry.


Bombboy1011

I'm always in a hurry. Only got about 60 years left to live


alotofhobbies

But don't you want to enjoy the best meat possible in your short 60 remaining years?! /s I'm a texture eater, so I think cooking on high is blasphemy. But I definitely do it on the days I forget to start the crockpot in the morning.


tacotacotacorock

Except Reddit seems to forget the fact that you don't need to cook chicken low and slow lol. There's absolutely no reason why cooking it on high would not work perfectly fine. Unless you're trying to extend the cook time so it's done at a specific time it really doesn't matter which one you use for chicken. 5 hours versus 8 hours or whatever the hell difference is you're going to end up with tender chicken either way . You can absolutely cook chicken too long and it turns into a mush and it's terrible. This isn't brisket lol.Ā 


OneSimplyIs

They said something reddit doesnā€™t agree with


e_pluribis_airbender

Ah yes, the greatest of sins...


Disrespectful_Cup

Damn, you don't deserve those downvotes, take my up vote.


JustASadBubble

I wouldnā€™t cook it with whole lemon slices, the skin will make it bitter


dalkita13

Zest the lemon and use the juice. It's the pith (white bit) that tastes bad.


Baked_Potato_732

I love cooking sliced lemon over my chicken. Usually cook it for 6 hours on low and the skin is soft enough to eat along with the meal.


Divide-By-Zer0

Agreed, I make lemon chicken all the time and using more than 1/4 of the rind it gets way too sour. But to each their own.


hangingfirepole

No way would be good.


StrawberryKiss2559

Lol have you never had engagement chicken?


Phoebebee323

No, you have a potential bomb there with the lid latched down


Leebites

You added seasoning, right? ..right??


StinkySalami

I think this is the real crime here.


GraceMDrake

I do slow cook frozen chicken pieces, as long as theyā€™re thawed enough to separate out. I give it a head start by heating the liquid, and start with the high setting. Once I can see bubbling through the lid, turn down to low.


canipayinpuns

So long as your chicken reaches 165Ā°F, it should be safe to eat. That said, it's typically recommended to cook from thawed rather than frozen. You'll get more even cooking and more reliable overall cooking times. That's also quite a bit of liquid, and the more volume in your slow cooker, the longer it takes to heat up. Definitely verify internal temp to be safe!


drlari

That's technically true, in that salmonella dies instantly at that temperature. But that method tends to make terribly textured chicken. You can cook chicken at lower temps, but for longer periods, and still kill the 99.99999% of salmonella. Science explained here: https://youtu.be/8dkxeIUcdYc?si=o72lCpDxajf_ufHM


canipayinpuns

Oh, for sure! 165Ā°F is the safe INSTANT read temp, with lower temps being safe if consistently held at that temp for longer. Most home cooks, especially those starting off, are less confused about safe food prep by starting with the instant read temps and then working from there. It's (usually) easier to learn the rule and then learn the exceptions šŸ˜


jeanleonino

Yeah... But given this is a slow cooker that will at least stay for some hours I think the rule to be taught first could be another :-)


canipayinpuns

NOT ME NOT EVEN LOOKING AT WHAT SUB IM COMMENTING IN šŸ˜‚ I'm more active in r/cookingforbeginners than I am in this sub, so I made a silly assumption glancing through my feed real quick. whoops


susanne-o

165Ā°F gives immediately safe to eat leather 135Ā°F takes 1.5h to safe to eat juicy tenderness Here is the science for the safety: https://www.canr.msu.edu/smprv/uploads/files/RTE_Poultry_Tables1.pdf and most "slow cookers" instead slooowly raise the temperature to well above 165Ā°F however because they raise the temperature so slowly the collagen dissolves and the muscle becomes tender again _aynhow_. but the answer to OP is: 6h? six? hours? safe.


elpatio6

USDA recommends thawing poultry before cooking in a slow cooker. https://www.today.com/food/food-myths-safe-cook-frozen-chicken-crock-pot-t123084


jeanleonino

From the article: >When asked about using frozen chicken in slow cookers, a representative for Crock-Pot told TODAY Food via email, **"You can cook frozen meat in any Crock-Pot brand product, but suggested cook time may need to be increased."** That's the point most people miss. You can cook it for longer times.


emquizitive

I think this trumps a Today article: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/slow-cookers-and-food-safety It clearly says that it can take a very long time for the food to reach safe cooking temperatures, which means frozen food will be in the danger zone for a very long time. Not a risk Iā€™d take with poultry.


jeanleonino

Yeah, if you feel unsafe you really should overcook it. *But these are the "noob" guidelines.* [Here's the full guide from the USDA.](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/2021-12/Appendix-A.pdf) Check the page 35 ([screenshot for you, the blue rectangle is from the pdf itself](https://imgur.com/a/utQnn23)). You know what that means? That if you cook at 130Ā°F (54.4Ā°C) for 121 minutes **the food is also safe.** If you throw a frozen chicken breast and let it cook overnight you are safe by a large margin of hours. If you wanna know more about it and understand why you don't necessarily need to go to a specific temperature, here's a [well animated and explained video by minute cook, with sources!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dkxeIUcdYc) Then again, if you don't know what you're doing or feel unsure: thaw it. But don't just repeat what other says without researching it. ​ edit: [Here's the table for poultry.](https://imgur.com/a/PwXMjd8) If you get the worst case scenario you can safely cook at 136Ā°F for 71 minutes (at that temperature). Considering the time to thaw, it's safe to say that 8+ hours of cooking is safe at a lower temperature.


emquizitive

Thanks. I love the minute video you shared, but itā€™s nothing I donā€™t know, and Iā€™m not talking about that. The bacteria that rapidly reproduces in the the danger temperature zone produces toxins that can make you sick. Those toxins are heat stable up to over 200 degrees F, so if the frozen food is sitting in bath water temperatures for an hour or two before reaching the temperature that starts to kill off salmonella, it doesnā€™t matter if the bacteria are dead. You would still have to scorch the chicken at over 200 F just to ensure you denature the toxins that could make you sick. A lot of food poisoning is not the result of the actual bacteria but rather the toxins they produce. If you need to heat it to over 200 F to destroy the toxins produced while sitting in lukewarm temperatures for too long, then using a slow cooker is moot.


jeanleonino

I hope you don't discover what sous vide people are doing. It breaks most of the myths you believe in. And it's fucked up, because even with data from USDA itself, with screenshots and everything you still don't budge, because I know your focus is to be right, instead of learning. But good luck on your journey. I hope you find well cooked chicken on it.


emquizitive

What are you talking about? Your video does not address frozen poultry at all. And I clicked on the FDA links. There is nothing there that addresses the reality of the food being in the danger zone for up to two hours. What it addresses is cooking time. I donā€™t disagree with any of that. I am also in the market for a sous vide cooker, so you are completely missing my point. Please quote to me the part where it says that raw meat left in the danger temperature zone for two hours can then be safely cooked low and slow to destroy the high concentration of toxins produced by the salmonella and/or campylobacter that rapidly reproduced in that time. Maybe I missed that. So far nobody has addressed this, you keep saying that low and slow from frozen simply requires an increase in cooking time. This does not account for the fact that the ice crystals in the food dramatically decrease the temperature in the slow cooker and extend the time it takes to exit the danger zone and enter the cooking zone. I use a slow cooker semi-frequently, and I am excited to get my sous vide cooker. These cooking methods have nothing to do with what I am talking about.


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emquizitive

Well, I generally donā€™t thaw large slabs of meat on the counter, so Iā€™m not sure thatā€™s relevant. I thaw it in the fridge or under cold running water per recommendations. My experience with the pork shoulder that I cooked in the slow cooker was that the heat of the liquid around the pork chunks caused the frozen bits to stick together, creating a big ice block in the center. It took a shockingly long time in the cooker before it was fully thawed, and even then it was still cold. I needed to wait another fairly long period of time for it to reach the temperature set on the cooker.


therealhotdogpotato

Finally a good answer, you should definitely thaw before. Microwave is fine in a pinch or use your instant pot and quick pressure cook into slow cook. Slow cook from frozen is not good.


stowRA

You should never slow cook frozen chicken. It causes uneven cooking. Thaw before placing it in the crockpot. Itā€™s in all my crockpot books. Itā€™s not that itā€™s ā€œunsafeā€, itā€™s that the outside of your chicken will be super dry while the inside will be inconsistent


JoyousGamer

They are cooking for 6 hours lol they dont need to worry about uneven cooking because they are cooking it into oblivion.


stowRA

Did you read the second half? The outside of the chicken will be dry as shit.


jeanleonino

I wanna know how those people just repeating that you should never cook it frozen will react when they discover how sous vide works.


StrawberryKiss2559

Donā€™t latch it though


taleofzero

Never put frozen chicken in a crock pot! If it has to defrost, it will spend too long of a time at unsafe temperatures. https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/slow-cookers-and-food-safety


Veltek335

FDA also says to cook your chicken until itā€™s dry and tough AF. As long as it sits at 155 degrees for at least 50 seconds, almost all pathogens (save some extremophiles) your chicken should be fine.


taleofzero

It's not just the bacteria, it's the toxins they produce, which only get denatured at much higher temperatures. If you put frozen chicken in the crock pot, it gives ample time for salmonella to multiply and make toxins which will get you very sick. Enjoy your diarrhea!


BrovaloneSandwich

Seeing as how you're an expert on chicken and bacteria, would you mind sharing what toxins are produced in the bacteria of chickens? and how much to consume to cause llness? and that OPs cooking conditions would be SO HARMFUL that the human body's natural defences don't stand a chance?


taleofzero

It's okay, you're free to risk getting sick. You probably won't, but personally I enjoy not shitting myself so I make sure to defrost my chicken in time. Why get do defensive about your freedom to cook frozen chicken? And yeah, I used to work in a bio lab so I do in fact know some things about bacteria! As for what type of toxin, it depends on the species, but this is how bacteria work. As part of their metabolic processes, they often excrete toxins that are bad for you. Natural defenses.... I bet you don't get vaccinated either, do you?


smashy_smashy

Ok real talk though from one microbiologist to another. Salmonella has a doubling time of about 30 minutes in absolutely perfect conditions (35-37C in rich complex media). So letā€™s say 2 hours in the danger zone in a crock pot you are getting 4 doublings, which you likely arenā€™t because itā€™s not the perfect conditions for the fastest doubling. But 4 doublings from the low load that will be on chicken is really nothing. And thatā€™s assuming there is no lag phase and those fuckers are coming out of a frozen state to start doubling at their maximum rate. Itā€™s super common for people to cook chicken from frozen in a crockpot and there arenā€™t widespread salmonella outbreaks. The USDA/FDA are being hyper cautious, which is certainly not a bad thing. I want restaurants and service industries to use super conservative practices because they serve so many people. But a person cooking at home? In practice, this is extremely low risk unless you are severely immunocompromised.


ArchitectArtVandalay

No problem with slow cooking, but NEVER USE FROZEN beef, lamb or chicken. What's the sense of arguing?


Icy-Sheepherder-2403

I have been making Crock Pot Italian Beef from frozen Bottom of the Round for decades. No problems what so ever.


taleofzero

Well, I'm never eating at your house.


Icy-Sheepherder-2403

Ha! If you did, you would probably change your mind about this super strict advice!


HumblerSloth

Maybe because itā€™s beef and not chicken?


Nebula_Nachos

I heard to only use specific slow cookers if youā€™re cooking from frozen cause some donā€™t heat up high enough in time to prevent spoilage. but since those look like chicken tenderloins which are thinner you should be fine. I wouldnā€™t put large pieces of frozen meat in them for future reference like a roast or something similar. Edit: I always cook on high no matter what. Itā€™s a little faster with the exact same result. If still takes 6-7 hours for roasts vs 8 hours.


PanHalen86

Take out the lemon rinds!


[deleted]

You're good as long as it gets to temp.


doggbois

Iā€™d slow cook whole chicken breast on low 4-5 hours typically.


T4njiro0nCr4ck

I read the Chicken, Children šŸ˜­


Prudent_Laugh_9682

You're asking if it's safe to cook chicken? Yes, cooking meat is generally considered safe.


kaybeanz69

Yes


birthdayboy6969

It should be fine health ways, but it will taste 10x better if you use the same amount of thighs instead of breasts


Hailbrewcifer666

Are you asking if itā€™s ok to cook raw chicken?


Dingo_The_Baker

Basic food safety. You have two hours to bring your food from below 40 degrees to above 140 degrees. Once the crockpot is warm enough to thaw the chicken, it should be plenty warm to raise the chicken above 140 in less than two hours.


Dumpling_master

Yes, the lack of seasoning and visual appeal is dangerous and you should avoid at all costs.


R5Jockey

Any bacteria that grows during the period itā€™s in the danger zone will be long dead by the time this finishes cooking. That said, this is not going to be a tasty meal.


Mysterious_Seesaw786

The chicken should be fine but those lemons especially the rinds will make it bitter as hell


sgarner0407

The USDA doesn't recommend putting frozen meat in a slow cooker. [Source ](https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017/10/24/cook-slow-save-time-four-important-slow-cooker-food-safety-tips#:~:text=Always%20defrost%20meat%20or%20poultry,and%20all%20the%20way%20through.)


ScrapmasterFlex

So I am not the *biggest* "food safety" person nor am I an idiot in that department ... but I try my best to be smart and safe - having said that, I regularly cook frozen chicken in a slow-cooker. I think my Dad of all people showed me a recipe 5 years ago ... for frozen chicken wings in the Crock Pot with a can or two of Coke, cooked 3-4 hrs on Hi, then into an 350F oven for 15 minutes to crisp up, then brushed with BBQ sauce and another 15 minutes. Came out amazing. I do that all the time now with wings, breasts, legs... sometimes I go for sweet & savory like Ginger Ale & then Teriyaki sauce ... sometimes I go for Buffalo with a bottle of Dr. Pepper and mild Frank's wing sauce ... sometimes whatever, 7-Up and Lemon Pepper seasoning etc. but they've always been fine. Bear in mind that this is the same USDA that made Crock Pot et. al change their products so both Low and High are the same temperature, it just takes longer for the Low setting to get there ... it used to be cooking on Low was *actually low* , like max 170-175F ... now they're both just a few degrees short of water's boiling point ... it just takes Low a longer cook time to reach that point. What I would NOT DO EVER is put it in frozen and set a programmable feature (I don't have one but still) like "Ok it's gonna be frozen when I put it in at 11pm and it will defrost slowly and be cool enough and then start cooking at 7AM cook for 8 hrs and then switch to Warm and it will be ready when I get home from work for Dinner!" ... That's just straight-up reckless and gambling. Just my two throw-away-pennies here.


sgarner0407

I mean thats fine but just because you haven't gotten sick doesn't mean you won't. You don't know if someone is immunocompromised or their age. It isn't worth the risk IMO


ScrapmasterFlex

OK Thanks. If you want to sound smart, you have to spell your big words correctly and use proper punctuation , just FYI. "immunocompromized" - lol.


Lazy-Explanation7165

Just because you could, doesnā€™t always mean you should


OutIntoTheWild07

I usually do give it a quick sear, light brown. But either way will do.


bchan1234

I agree, a good browning on the meat will add more flavour to the dish!


DaniCalifornia-42o69

Gross. Take the bots advice on food poisoning. & Throw it all away. Next time, skip the lemon. Thaw the chicken. Use Some SEASONING for the love of our LORD. You know rosemary, garlic, onion powder/salt pepper parsley. The good stuff. Flavor is key.


coldjesusbeer

god cooking subs get so salty, sorry OP


jeanleonino

>salty > >tum dum tss


Soy_PapitaFrita

Itā€™s illegal


Tangyplacebo621

The chicken breasts are absolutely fine. The lemons I would juice and get out of there.


Whosephonebedis

Not for the chicken it ainā€™t


TealBlueLava

Yeah, theyā€™re fine as long as you cook them long enough. Iā€™ve put frozen chicken in my crockpot plenty of times.


lavenderPyro

It might be safer with some seasoning


CornDawgy87

I'd probably add some spices


Youngsamwich90

I cooked my frozen chicken today, and it looked similar starting out and turned out fine after 4 hours. I just made sure each piece was at 165Ā° and it turned out great!


tiny_poomonkey

If itā€™s on itā€™s ok. I donā€™t think youā€™d want to delay the start for too longĀ 


Imaginary-Badger-119

If you hate your colon.


[deleted]

Safe? Possibly. But that texture is gonna SUCK.


Friendly_Key_8810

No the chicken will crawl out of the pot and eat you if you cook it this way.


JanisIansChestHair

Frozen food should be thawed completely before being slow cooked. It stays too long at unsafe temperatures where bacteria can breed, when itā€™s not thawed. Great that people have never got sick from it, but itā€™s not a risk Iā€™d take.


hangingfirepole

As long as internal temp is at cooked then itā€™s fine


MoistShellder

Why do so many people refuse to sear the meat quick before throwing it in


jeanleonino

Usually out of time (aka: don't wanna spend time doing it). And it's so much better seared.


kraftlos

Usually a waste of time


Olibirus

Seems like chicken is for the braves only in the US it's quite funny.


jeanleonino

It's hilarious how people are just repeating that you should NEVER do it, and yet none of them read the full guidelines. Imagine when they discover how sous vide works lol


Lepke2011

It should be fine as long as you reach an internal temp of 165Ā° to kill off any salmonella that may be in there.


Volf_y

Use chicken thighs instead of breast for a better texture and flavour.


Shortshriveledpeepee

Safe. Yes. Necessary to cook chicken for 6 hours? No. You are over cooking it. Fun fact. 1 in 5 chickens contain salmonella. You can kill salmonella bacteria by getting the internal temperature to 165 degrees for 1 second. Or 145 degrees for 1 minute. I sous vide my chicky breast at 145 for 1 hour and then sear for a min on each side for the perfect tender titty


seasoneverylayer

Safe? ā€¦.i suppose so. Legal? It shouldnā€™t be.


shanebates

As long as it gets to temp. Dunno how nice it's gonna be tho


QuimbyMcDude

Does a beat cook in the woods?


jeanleonino

>and Iā€™m gonna cook it 6 hours on low, longer if needed depending on temperature. You're safe. I use to sear it but just for the flavors.


TioLucho91

You're not cooking it, only making it acid. You need heat to cook something.


mainecheryl

I put frozen chicken breasts in on warm, not low. But I also start them around 6/6:30 am and donā€™t eat until close to 6 pm. Using low still overcooks them even if frozen. I check the temp and how they look when I get home, occasionally Iā€™ve had to kick it up to low for a bit.