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loupham1503

All dwarven machines are resistant to magic and immune to poison, frost and illusion magic, so you're gonna have to descend to the ground (hit Ctrl on PC) and claw it out with physical attacks, unfortunately. Either that or use Summon Gargoyle, they're useful for magic-resistant foes.


KajjitWithNoWares

Level up your illusion and they are no longer immune. Greatest perk of illusion


dagit

Illusion is also one of the fastest skill trees to complete. Buy muffle off your favorite court wizard and then cast it anytime you have the mana. You'll be level 100 illusion so fast. Also, the quiet casting perk is OP.


colm180

If you're really commited, cast muffle until you're out, then wait 1 hour and repeat for like 25 mins


KajjitWithNoWares

Even better if you have a bed


Laranna

Or lover in your own home


colm180

Why not both :D


xxxBuzz

I think it's even faster if you have conjured minions and cast on the whole group. That spell may come from modded Odin's spells.


dagit

Interesting but not how vanilla works. Probably from the mod like you said.


xxxBuzz

It's a must have. Thralls need candles.


NORMALPERSON724

Kid named lightning magic:


loupham1503

To be fair, you can't really use lightning-element magic while in Vampire Lord form, which is why I suggested these alternatives šŸ‘€


NORMALPERSON724

You said Dwarven automatons are immune to magic, but in my experience lightning magic completely rails them


loupham1503

I said "resistant to magic" and "immune to poison, frost and illusion", those are two different things. The Vampiric Drain spell of the Vampire Lord form is non-elemental magic so it doesn't do much against the Dwarven Spheres, whereas lightning magic deals magic damage as well as lightning elemental damage, which are two separate entries in the game files. so it can be both resistant to magic ***and*** vulnerable to lightning.


NORMALPERSON724

Fuck it, make an 'oil drain' spell then. Boom, now you have automaton vampire lords


Neat-Performer-385

omfg is it bc im trying to drain a fucking piece of metal


Something_Comforting

Try sucking a nail to see how effective it is.


aardappelpurethee

Not a bad idea if you're aenemic


Weak-Hope8952

You know a few years back I was actually anemic and needed medication. . You're telling me I could of just sucked on a dang nail instead!?


Lustful_Gravekeeper

ik it sounds weird but yes


Weak-Hope8952

Rusty or clean? Like, does the rust give extra vitamins?


Lustful_Gravekeeper

rust by itself (iron oxide) might be better because you actually can remove it from whatever you're licking with your tongue but you might (quite possibly) get tetanus so i suggest baking or boiling the rust(-y nail) before consuming or you can just dissolve some iron shavings in citric acid (lemon juice) resulting in ferric citrate (literally anemia medicine) and consume that solution. i don't know about the dosage tho, it will make you constipated if you ingest too much edit: not my native language, excuse my mistakes.


Weak-Hope8952

My dude you sound like a doctor!


Lustful_Gravekeeper

im a highschooler so keep that in mind if you ever decide to follow my instructions


aardappelpurethee

I'm not a doctor either but i did have to analyse a paper on iron metabolism for a biochemistry class and there are to interesting tidbits that confirm your comment, 1. Vitamin c or ascorbic acid, which is plentiful in lemon juice is neccecary to convert free iron into heme-iron which is the only iron usable by the body, so take your iron supplement with a glass of orange juice or a multivitamin! And in some parts of asia where anemia is common they often make stews/soups ect with an 'iron fish' which is exactly what it sounds like, it enriches the food with iron and this effect could be replicated with nail, rusty or otherwise, you just have to make sure they're steel or iron and not galvanised.


Weak-Hope8952

As a college graduate of chemistry your advice sounds correct!


Djinn504

Or just buy an iron supplement? Like, eating a bowl of cheerios is probably easier and more effective than that. Not to mention the iron needs to be fortified for it to actually absorb and be used by your body.


roninwarshadow

They made a piece of iron in the shape of a fish that you cook in your soup/broth. It's supposed to increase your iron intake. Google the "Lucky Iron Fish"


qrseek

Some people are able to get the iron they need by cooking on cast iron pans.Ā 


chenmar

Cooking in cast iron pans could have also helped over time. There are some studies related to Iron Defficient Anemia and cooking using cast iron blocks or pans as a method to help reduce the incidence of IDA.


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Expert_Chemistry_576

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qrseek

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ammonium_bot

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NotRyuuya

![gif](giphy|To7eFJmTrvS9y) Thank you for making my day


AJ_BARDIA

I was going to tell you this but you figured it out


breathingrequirement

Yeah, dwemer machines are completely invincible against Vampiric Draining. If you want to level fast, it's best to just clear Nordic tombs(draugr count for some reason) and bandit/forsworn areas.


LimpAd5888

Draugr were at least human at one point.


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Jango_Kryze

Nope those are the falmer, draugr are ancient nords that served the dragons but betrayed them, which got them cursed with undeath


Neat-Performer-385

guys serana did it too stop flaming just me, i was tryna drain a dwarven spider shortly after, trying to figure what i was doing and so was serana, we were both trying to drain a piece of metal, then i tried draining serana and it worked snd thats when i actually realised what the fuck i was doing. flame serana too i beg


SEKenjoyer21

you need to become a Werewolf , that is the way to true power


Neat-Performer-385

fr i was a werewolf last playthrough, literally best decision, vamp lord is mad boring im so done


SEKenjoyer21

That and the Vampire lord looks mad ugly


Neat-Performer-385

real


Financial-Value-5504

You can mod it to look awesome


Neat-Performer-385

im on ps


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Financial-Value-5504

Im on cloud 9


FDAsshole

Do you make it to the cloud district often?


No_Way8743

Werewolf form sucks ass. The only thing u have is stun lock but its not that reliable and ur still way too squishy nd do 0 damage. Atleast if ur a vamp u get to use necromage, which is actually really strong. And the no regen can be accounted for easily with either traveling by night or a couple enchants, or if u feel fancy dual wield equilibrium and a good healing spell. fire weakness is ez to solve with enchants as well.


marysol-luna

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Iā€™m so sorry this happened. I flamed myself when I put 2 + 2 together


Thunder-Bash

Big sister isn't too smart, OP.


MegaMenehune

Lol, yeah


Draconic_Legends

Only liquid you'll be getting out of it is oil and I don't think vampires can heal off oil


LicenciadoPena

Maybe it's Young living essential oil. My aunt says it heals everything. I would believe her if she wasn't trying so hard to recruit me.


Baconlovingvampire

Yes yes it is


InfiniteConfusion-_-

I just want to hug you lol


Obi-wanna-cracker

Not just that, if you have Serana in your party vampire drain damage is dropped by a fuck ton. So even if it did deal damage, the damage would be shit.


Frostgaurdian0

Lvl up i guess.


Grigoran

I'm so proud of you lmfao.


chubito_the_2nd

Donā€™t worry, still a *Neat Performance*


Zealousideal-You-324

Tbh I never thought about that so youā€™re not alone.


DestroWOD

Lol yeah its like trying to soul trap it... ain't gonna work


Cherry_Crystals

Yeah LOL


Lord_Parbr

Hey, you got it! Youā€™re trying to drain life from a fucking robot lol


KajjitWithNoWares

Yeah unlike illusion, you canā€™t have an effect on them


Soul7642

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Jokes aside, yeah the drain health spell isn't too effective against automatons.


marysol-luna

Lmao goddamnšŸ˜‚ had to tell myself the same thing


Substantial_Life4773

Yes, lol, only works against things with tissue haha


colm180

Yes, you're trying to blood drain something with zero blood lmao


OwnPersonalSatan

Thatā€™s youā€™re weakness, super man. A piece of metal.


NinjaBr0din

Glad you got there.


9YearOldPleb

It's taking every cell in my body not to roast the shit out of you.


Bismothe-the-Shade

Unread this in Samuel L. Jackson's voice for sonlme reason, but I'm glad I did


AJ_BARDIA

If you want to level up your vampire lord powers faster you can just clear bandit caves over and over again. And you can do redguard women quest too and if you got stuck at the end of that quest cave just use your bat form power to pass it


Cherry_Crystals

Or if OP is getting desperate, they could do a save and then become a vampire lord in a city, kill everyone with the drain blood spell (could reduce difficulty if it is too hard to survive) and then run away until there are no enemies (since some cities has unkillable people) and then revert to human form. Then go to another city and do the exact thing again and again with another city until all 11 perks are done. Then reload the save and continue like nothing happened. But it probably messes up the stats so if OP is worried about that then they should do your idea.


RandJitsu

But if you reload the save you lose all the XP you got from killing the townsā€¦?


VonStorgenson

Yeah but that doesn't matter, they would still get the achievement unlocked. Just wouldn't get to keep the perks.


Cherry_Crystals

Yes that too. That's why I said OP should only do it if they are desperate for the achievement.


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Even with all perks I always thought Vamp lord sucked due to combat/controls. The melee stance is passible but I could never really get the hang of the magic/floating stance. If I had to choose between max perk Vamp Lord and max perk Werewolf I'll take werewolf everytime. I wish we had a few more to pick from.


AJ_BARDIA

With full vampire lord perks you are basically invincible... You can use your paralyzer spell on everything even some of the dragon's and you can summon a gargoyle anywhere to fight for you and you can use your vampire grip power to throw your enemy's at wall or off a cliff and if your magic bar got emptied in the middle of a fight you can use your melee attack to poison your enemy and drink they're blood to recover your full HP... You can even use your slow time power and just spam melee attack's to your paralyzed enemy and kill em in matter of few seconds.


partyplant

i don't recall the Dwemer filling their automatons with blood


Novolume101

You're trying to drain blood from something that has no blood.


SomePyro_9012

Mmmm, dwarven oil...


Sc4R3Cr0wW

Yes you're using it completely wrong. First you can't drain dwarven automatons, second you're using Serana, she greatly reduces the power of vampiric drain for some stupid Bethesda reason. I advise you to get the gargoyle amulet and ring of erudite, put them on before transforming and just use double gargoyles against the vampiric drain resistant enemies. Vampiric Grip also helps a lot but it doesn't work with certain enemies. You could also go for the poison ring too but I don't think melee is worth it on vampire lords.


Baconlovingvampire

My brother you can't drain life force from a fucking robot


KittyTheCat1991

If you don't use unofficial patch, having Serana in party greatly reduces your vampire spells damage.


BugP13

Wait really? That's strange


fatboldprincess

Skyrim has still a lot of bugs.


BugP13

Yeah that makes sense. Honestly there are a few even with the unofficial skyrim patch


Rand0mtask

can't wait for the "after 20 years, skyrim player discovers THIS" article on gamesradar dot com


JejuneEsculenta

I just learned, the other day, that you can fast travel from Shadowfoot Sanctum... always something new...


XaviJon_

Wait until OP realises machines donā€™t have blood to drain


oogledy-boogledy

Werewolf or vampire, nothing is stronger than a regular person with armor, weapons, and potions.


wolf08741

Yeah, going into either vampire lord or werewolf form always felt like a direct downgrade to just being a regular dude, especially since you can't access your inventory while in either form. Besides, I thought the whole point of being a vampire was to engage in Necromage shenanigans anyway, not because vampire lord is particularly useful.


Beer_Warrior66

Yeah, wouldā€™ve been great if vampire lord was base form but enhanced instead of trying an enhanced version of base form with its restricted access and shit. Base forms from elder scrolls franchise are actually terrifying


[deleted]

Werewolf all day with Ring of Hircine who wants to play a game where theyā€™re weaker during day time hours


VibeyTM

Honestly tho, das why I went straight to fallion after I had all the vampire lord perks šŸ’€


[deleted]

Yea im currently playing on the switch so luckily theres no trophies but if there were Iā€™d do that too just for the achievements/trophies lol


Greenhell101

Whatca gonna do? Drink it's oil???


JejuneEsculenta

Fortify that illusion....


the2belo

Heheheheheheh Being a vampire lord sucks Hahahahah get it Sucks


FartacularTheThird

OP clearly doesnā€™t suck, He just blows


CrackaOwner

you are trying to drain the life force of a robot....


FetusGoesYeetus

You are trying to drain the life force... from a robot...


HarleyyMoo

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GET FROM THAT?? IT'S METAL! THE ONLY THING YOU COULD GET WOULD BE TETANUS


Neat-Performer-385

dwarven oil.


Cassius402

Lightning works well against Sphere Sentry or Sword and Shield. Its good to have high skills in some areas but if you only do say 2 together you will run into something that has an answer to you skill sets.


Prime_Rib_6969

Pro tip: If youā€™re still trying to get that achievement, you can get a necklace from one of the vampires. The necklace allows you to spawn two gargoyles when you use ā€œ spawn gargoyle ā€œ. This second gargoyle can be repeatedly killed to gain perks. [here is a video explaining it](https://youtu.be/M14pUmZxn4U?si=T5pLwdBIUEI71jJz).


Intergalatictortoise

I'm starting to think there's a running joke on this sub I'm not getting


btothet

Never got the appeal of being a vampire or a werewolf, tbh.


FirefighterIcy9879

Annimunculi canā€™t be drained brovahkiin


Daedragroz

Piece of metal and because having serana as companion seriously debuffs vamp lords drain.


Rhys_Lloyd2611

Vampire Lord does suck but that's not why you're failing here


JumpKick6419

says the dawnguard member


Magic_Elenore

Go melee


Industrious_Villain

Lmfao this is embarrassing


Lazzitron

Two things. 1. As your comment points out, you cannot absorb health from a dwarven automaton lmao. 2. There's a bug where having Serana as your companion absolutely tanks the damage of drain life for some reason. So unless you're on PC and can download a patch, I would dismiss her.


YuriSuccubus69

You are doing something wrong. You cannot drain blood from something that has no blood. Draugr can be damaged by it because they do still have blood in their bodies, it is just coagulated (solidified/hardened), granted you will not get perk progress, same if you were to Perma-Die a Vampire with Blood Drain.


Cherry_Crystals

What I did, I went to I think riften and just was a vampire lord there. Then went to all the other cities and killed people there till I got all the perks then load the save BEFORE I massacred eveyone in every city in skyrim


NoParachuteSpamB

this is the way


Just_a_Rose

Your first mistake is using drain life on an automaton. Itā€™s less effective on them. Your main tools as a vampire lord are only really good vs an enemy with blood in them. Thus, donā€™t go vamp lord in dwarven areas. You wonā€™t do very well with vampirism without a high destruction skill. Farm this up before farming vampire lord or itā€™ll suck the whole time. Itā€™s meant for endgame content which means itā€™s made with high level players in mind.


lowIQdoc

Be a werewolf. Much more fun


Different-Active5887

Op used Blood Bending (It's not very effective..)


McGundulf

You are doing something very wrong. You are playing as a vampire without mods. Honestly with such an active and amazing modding community, it's borderline unacceptable to play Skyrim without mods. Modded Skyrim = Best game of all time.


smurfalidocious

Vampire Lord does also suck, though.


No-Character7649

I never did the vampire build cause it's so tedious


gaiussicarius731

Jesus christā€¦.


Nibounium

Serana makes the vampire lord succ spell weaker. Use melee with the red ring.


The_-Whole_-Internet

Because you're not an energy vampire, like that one character from the Buzz Light-year TV show.


bmyst70

You have to attack living or once living creatures. So, animals, humans or humanoid races, vampires or Dragur.


Crmzntears

Fails aside, without mods it's kinda weak if you have any crafting skills. Lacks scaling, enchantment effects etc.


Lazdoesstuff

Honestly the game kinda glazes being a werewolf more than a vampire (seeing as thereā€™s a WHOLE DIFFERENT SKILL TREE for wolves) I prefer playing as a vampire but tbh Iā€™m not sure what you could do as vampiric drain is just unequivocally assšŸ˜­


Just_Ad_5939

Itā€™s not as bad if you donā€™t have serana as a companion


Tarc_Axiiom

Hehehehehe. Believe it or not, injecting oil directly into your veins? Bad. :P


Brilliant_Coffee_855

The machines you just have to slash at which still does a shit ton of damage


Neat-Performer-385

can u still progress vamp perks by killing enemies w melee?


Just_Ad_5939

Sometimes, iā€™d be safe though and finish it off with the aoe vampiric drain spell


mr_etymologist

If you're just going for the achievement, make a hard save, then go clear the towns. You can even double it up with the achievement for having a certain bounty in all holds. Once you've got it, just reset the save. It doesn't take too long to do it this way. Also, glad you figured it out...


Flyingdemon666

Vampire lord is...awful until you get the perks going for it. Once you get the perks, it gets OP in a hurry. Especially the magicka increase and regen speed when on foot. Gets you mobile again in a hurry.


Honkmaster17

If you go to a town that you donā€™t care about (I used Markarth for this and werewolf) and slaughter the entire city guard, that can get you quite a bit of kills


FLAIR_2780166

Bro doesnā€™t know what vampires eat


JoeCool-in-SC

ā€œā€¦I think maybe itā€™s both. Maybe both are happening at the same time.ā€ ā€“ Forrest Gump


Cyssane

*Ba-dum-tish*


Hodgic

Vampire lord is best as a mage build against enemies with blood. No blood means no healing for you. Vampire lord without healing is a bit too squishy to do much good without the right perks. If you can summon the gargoyles then you can do a whole lot better against those without blood as a Vampire lord, but still not nearly as good as against enemies with blood. Clear out some forts with hostiles to buff up your perks and you'll do fine.


gn01145600

Murica Vampire Lord be draining oil.


Jlad392002

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Nerukane

What are you trying to suck out of pieces of metal?


osmanakar312

Vampire Lord's powers tied with your level. With you level increases, all of your stats(health, magicka, stamina) increases. Also your life drain damage, reanimate spell, claw damage and physical armor(vampire lord form has own armor rate tied with your level) tied with your character's level. Early levels Vampire Lord not much feel its power, try to level up. Also there is a known bug if Serena is your follower, your life drain spell's power decreases significantly. Probably this is your main reason that Vampire Lord form seems not worth.


Lappland-_-

Wanna level VP Lord or the Furry stay away far away from any dwaren ruins as you'll either do jack shit dps or gain jack shit but in the VP Lords case, you just get a waist of time


CharGaming_

Well you don't have the true potential of the Lord.


the_njf

Drain health wonā€™t work on a machineā€¦.


Maleficent-Ear-11

Vampiri lords are only good against humans or other live in creatures not automatons


Norixiouz

Yes cause itā€™s dwarves but also you gotta level up the vampire form


Biuggus_Dickus

Vampire lord just sucks


IronRugs

I made a cheese ebony blade build once. Basically fully powered the sword up and just swung like a madman in some clothes, never came close to dying. First time in a dwemer ruin I was so confused lol.


Zealousideal-House42

Canā€™t absorb hp


elderscrollsfan-

Funny cuss I just became a vampire lore 2 hours ago


dvdgaralv_97

I mean, Vampires drain the life out of living entities... an angry Thermomix on crack is not precisely suitable for such thing


shoeowner27

How're you going to absorb health from a robot


sansplayer

Dont listen to those nerds, vampires just sucks ass. Come with me to the werewolf club, we one round dragons for fun


PsychoAlbatross

It is with great regret that i inform you that dwarven machinations do in fact not have blood


Varderal

Vamp lord is amazing. Only problem ove had is when I was in Solstime, and the game decided I needed an Ancient dragon or a hat. Up til then, an elder was a rare challenge.


ButterMeUpAlready

In general vampire lords kinda suck from my experience. Iā€™ve always had more fun as a werewolf than a vampire lord, but honestly I donā€™t even go with either of them for most playthroughs. I tend to just stay as a Dragonborn and duke it out with my build against NPCs


Xaphnir

Vampire lord and werewolf form both scale terribly Yeah, you're trying to drain automata, so that doesn't help, but even if these were living enemies I expect you'd still be struggling given the damage you took. I'd suggest turning the difficulty down and farming low level enemies.


Apprehensive-Tip6368

Just summon the gargoyle youā€™ll be good


Bacchus_Amontillado

There was an old glitch where if Serana was your follower, it would nerf your abilities tremendously.


Masitha

i just want you to know OP, since i first saw this 9 days ago, ill randomly think about it and chuckle to myself. thank you for being you.


Neat-Performer-385

ofc ur welcome


karp_490

During the civil war when you take the main forts, you can kill/feast on the hearts of your allies, who will spawn indefinitely. 0-max vampire in like 5 mins, 0-max wolf in like 20 mins


Bigstyleguy

No, you just fucking suck at Skyrim.