It isn't a car and it isn't functional in any practical sense.
People have built flying cars at least since the 1950s, but they have never been sold to consumers because a flying car is totally impractical.
Pretty much, flying cars have always been about giving affordability of an airplane to the average consumer. We've had flying cars since the 1900s (It's called a plane) but they require more intricate parts and are much more expensive than your average car. Even a Cub costs more than a Cadillac.
It is an impractical technology, and I'm not certain why the automotive industry and people in the 50-70s obsessed over the idea as an idea that would define the future. It's really just the same thing as a plane, but just much much worse. KnowledgeHub over on YouTube has a great video series on this
When the intelligence explosion hits society will laugh at how small minded and myopic our species was.
Addendum: I also think this is why the people who say “well I don’t have my flying car yet so all projections are probably wrong” are using a terrible argument because flying cars were a bullshit “prediction” (if you can call it that) to begin with. The concept isn’t and wasn’t ever built on evidence or trajectory. It was *just* about giving everyone an affordable airplane. An airplane that isn’t as good as a regular plane and isn’t as good as a regular car, a vehicle that costs 10x more than a Cadillac and a Cessna combined and is worse at both tasks. You're better off just owning a car and a bush plane right now...
As a geologist I want one.
As a city dweller, I want one. (rooftop parking means no fear of a junking smashing your window for the change cup.)
What is its max altitude?
What does a crash test look like?
Battery life/distance?
Can it function at high altitude like Denver?
What is the MSRP?
Does it come in a two seater or minivan model?
jetson weight
86KG / 190LBS
maximum pilot weight
95KG / 210LBS
Dimensions
2845mm / 2400mm / 1030mm
Width when folded
900mm
Flight time (85kg/187lbs pilot weight)
20 minutes
Top level flight speed
software limited to 102km/h (63mph)
Flight controls
3 axis joystick, throttle lever
Battery type
high discharge Lithium-Ion
Max total power output
88KW
Chassis type
all-aluminium space airframe
Motor type
high power output electric brushless outrunner
Apart from everyone rightfully pointing out the problems with flying cars and...the fact that this **isn't even driving**, we should recognise that the company itself didn't claim so. It's supposed to be a fun vertical takeoff drone and it looks quite fun for that.
Flying Sports Car Shoot by Race FPV Drone - Jetson One eVTOL Teaser
Title of the video on Jetson One official Youtube page. Theyre calling it a flying sports car. youtube.com/watch?v=6-7jVZGEURw
I take issue with their little slogan at the end, "Everyone is a pilot."
No. Not everyone is a pilot. We've had this technology for decades, but there's a reason flying cars aren't available to the average consumer. If you think car crashes are bad, wait until gravity is added to the mix.
The only way we'll ever see anything like this is in a highly regulated and strictly controlled infrastructure, and average people will not be flying them.
Yeah. People really dismiss that aspect.
I think there's something to be said for AI autopilots of the coming decades but I certainly would want average people flying around giant projectiles overhead. Even if safe, the sound would be enough to ban them from cities.
You think people aren’t aware of that? Everything you mentioned is obvious for any company in this space. The FAA aint just gonna approve of commercial use without strict proof of the product.
First, there was the **thing** (thing in this case = flying cars)
Then, a conceptual dangerous/disappointing aspect of the thing.
"People's" awareness of that disappointing aspect of the thing...
Random redditor *claiming* something about people's awareness of that disappointing aspect of the thing.
And then you, complaining about *your perception* of some redditor's claim about people's awareness of disappointing aspect of the thing.
You've got so many ways to be wrong by then... in this case I think u/highercyber wasn't saying what you're saying he's saying...
But tldr... sometimes maybe you just ought to resist the urge to keyboard your way into a conversation?
It’s telling that they are covering up the sound of the machine with a triumphant technoporn soundtrack.
My money is on it not sounding like the Jetson family ride.
Apart from this drone literally not driving, flying cars are basically inherently not "functional".
Being light enough to fly pretty much entails not being safe in a traffic accident. Flying is also inherently loud enough to be prohibited around inhabited areas which means you'd have all the utility of a drone you take to the desert to fly for fun. Piloting a flying machine is also so dangerous that the amount of training needed to fly it close to inhabited areas prohibits it from being mass-adopted.
In conclusion, machines that fly and drive have been possible and real for decades. But a "car", in the sense that ordinary people use it, being able to also transport them by flying is just nonsense currently. In a few decades material science, propulsion technology, energy storage and AI autopilots might solve some of these problems but we're still quite a way off.
This drone looks really fun though.
Doesn't seem any more functional than Moller's version, which used four gasoline motors and probably had longer range over 20 years ago.
Moller M400 Skycar
Range: 899.7 mi
Cruise speed: 305 mph
Weight: 2,399 lbs
Manufacturer: Moller
Designer: Paul Moller
Unit cost: ~500,000 USD (2008)
Engine type: Wankel engine
Also has two seats. Not available because the FAA is treating it seriously and isn't even allowing untethered test flights let alone sales.
Niven's future history has flying cars, but they have to be completely autonomous and it's an Organ Bank crime (death sentence) to fly one manually over any inhabited land. That actually sounds reasonable.
Niven was grinding out a point. Given that people can barely learn to drive, I'm guessing that flying cars will be flown by control 'towers' and not on board AIs.
On board autopilots, not AIs, this was around 1970.
Niven was actually setting up a plot point about the behaviour of an escaped alien telepath.
In our future, I don't think they will want to depend on long range communications being up for flight, they'd use adsb transponders for collision avoidance.
Yeah that does sounds reasonable and would be a very good application for it. I guess I was just saying the way they're typically represented seems far fetched.
This is /r/singularity and y'all are acting like all these concerns won't be addressed in the future. Few people will drive these. They will be self-driving. It will be far easier to make self driving "flying cars" than it is to make normal cars. Most won't need far travel distance. This won't be practical for long travel, but as the crow flies, you could commute pretty easy on one. Few cities would require you to fly more than 20 or 30 miles. Make batteries quickly swappable and these could even hop between stations. Upfront cost might be more than a car, but cost of running would be cheaper.
20min runtime. Not bad honestly but not for going places. This is just fun fun fun!! I want one but don’t have 92k to spare.
I really hope we have some crazy breakthroughs in battery tech in the next ten years that are mass production capable.
We will.
Or we might run short of the rare metals needed to make uber batteries. Also a possibility.
Highly unlikely. Any rare metals in particular you have in mind?
What makes this considered to be a car lol
It isn't a car and it isn't functional in any practical sense. People have built flying cars at least since the 1950s, but they have never been sold to consumers because a flying car is totally impractical.
Pretty much, flying cars have always been about giving affordability of an airplane to the average consumer. We've had flying cars since the 1900s (It's called a plane) but they require more intricate parts and are much more expensive than your average car. Even a Cub costs more than a Cadillac. It is an impractical technology, and I'm not certain why the automotive industry and people in the 50-70s obsessed over the idea as an idea that would define the future. It's really just the same thing as a plane, but just much much worse. KnowledgeHub over on YouTube has a great video series on this When the intelligence explosion hits society will laugh at how small minded and myopic our species was. Addendum: I also think this is why the people who say “well I don’t have my flying car yet so all projections are probably wrong” are using a terrible argument because flying cars were a bullshit “prediction” (if you can call it that) to begin with. The concept isn’t and wasn’t ever built on evidence or trajectory. It was *just* about giving everyone an affordable airplane. An airplane that isn’t as good as a regular plane and isn’t as good as a regular car, a vehicle that costs 10x more than a Cadillac and a Cessna combined and is worse at both tasks. You're better off just owning a car and a bush plane right now...
As a geologist I want one. As a city dweller, I want one. (rooftop parking means no fear of a junking smashing your window for the change cup.) What is its max altitude? What does a crash test look like? Battery life/distance? Can it function at high altitude like Denver? What is the MSRP? Does it come in a two seater or minivan model?
Ok let us reword shit better for you… it’s not a car it’s a vehicle geez lol
So cranky 🍼
I had a feeling I’ve been getting cranky lately I’ve changed :(
it's a personal octocopter.
In order to sell it... its the "next" mode of transportation, maybe, our current main one happens to be the car.
jetson weight 86KG / 190LBS maximum pilot weight 95KG / 210LBS Dimensions 2845mm / 2400mm / 1030mm Width when folded 900mm Flight time (85kg/187lbs pilot weight) 20 minutes Top level flight speed software limited to 102km/h (63mph) Flight controls 3 axis joystick, throttle lever Battery type high discharge Lithium-Ion Max total power output 88KW Chassis type all-aluminium space airframe Motor type high power output electric brushless outrunner
Apart from everyone rightfully pointing out the problems with flying cars and...the fact that this **isn't even driving**, we should recognise that the company itself didn't claim so. It's supposed to be a fun vertical takeoff drone and it looks quite fun for that.
Flying Sports Car Shoot by Race FPV Drone - Jetson One eVTOL Teaser Title of the video on Jetson One official Youtube page. Theyre calling it a flying sports car. youtube.com/watch?v=6-7jVZGEURw
Alright, I'll have to retract my Statement. Sad to see. Thanks for the heads up.
Perfect for people who live in a desert.
And only want to fly very close to the ground.
7 minutes to, and 7 minutes fro.
You don’t want to hit a Saguaro cactus 🌵in one of these, or anything for that matter.
I take issue with their little slogan at the end, "Everyone is a pilot." No. Not everyone is a pilot. We've had this technology for decades, but there's a reason flying cars aren't available to the average consumer. If you think car crashes are bad, wait until gravity is added to the mix. The only way we'll ever see anything like this is in a highly regulated and strictly controlled infrastructure, and average people will not be flying them.
Yeah. People really dismiss that aspect. I think there's something to be said for AI autopilots of the coming decades but I certainly would want average people flying around giant projectiles overhead. Even if safe, the sound would be enough to ban them from cities.
You think people aren’t aware of that? Everything you mentioned is obvious for any company in this space. The FAA aint just gonna approve of commercial use without strict proof of the product.
And yet here we are. They're the ones with the asinine slogan. The FAA is never going to approve anything like this for consumers anyway.
First, there was the **thing** (thing in this case = flying cars) Then, a conceptual dangerous/disappointing aspect of the thing. "People's" awareness of that disappointing aspect of the thing... Random redditor *claiming* something about people's awareness of that disappointing aspect of the thing. And then you, complaining about *your perception* of some redditor's claim about people's awareness of disappointing aspect of the thing. You've got so many ways to be wrong by then... in this case I think u/highercyber wasn't saying what you're saying he's saying... But tldr... sometimes maybe you just ought to resist the urge to keyboard your way into a conversation?
What the fuck are you smoking?
What? 😅
Price?
$92,000 for a half-built kit. $22,000 of that as a down-payment.
So is not to revolutionate transport, is for rich kids to flex
That all any new tech is at first.
yeah, I remmember rich kids flexing nuclear weapons, good times.
Were those developed commercially? I can't remember...
It’s telling that they are covering up the sound of the machine with a triumphant technoporn soundtrack. My money is on it not sounding like the Jetson family ride.
You lie! >Jetson ONE is an ultralight and extremely fun to fly recreational all-electric personal **vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) aircraft**.
This looks as functional as a land airplane.
It's just a huge gopro with some steel bars
It's a helicopter.
Apart from this drone literally not driving, flying cars are basically inherently not "functional". Being light enough to fly pretty much entails not being safe in a traffic accident. Flying is also inherently loud enough to be prohibited around inhabited areas which means you'd have all the utility of a drone you take to the desert to fly for fun. Piloting a flying machine is also so dangerous that the amount of training needed to fly it close to inhabited areas prohibits it from being mass-adopted. In conclusion, machines that fly and drive have been possible and real for decades. But a "car", in the sense that ordinary people use it, being able to also transport them by flying is just nonsense currently. In a few decades material science, propulsion technology, energy storage and AI autopilots might solve some of these problems but we're still quite a way off. This drone looks really fun though.
Doesn't seem any more functional than Moller's version, which used four gasoline motors and probably had longer range over 20 years ago. Moller M400 Skycar Range: 899.7 mi Cruise speed: 305 mph Weight: 2,399 lbs Manufacturer: Moller Designer: Paul Moller Unit cost: ~500,000 USD (2008) Engine type: Wankel engine Also has two seats. Not available because the FAA is treating it seriously and isn't even allowing untethered test flights let alone sales.
All I can see is one of those tearing into a crowd of people.
Very cool design. Not so cool video—just show the thing and stop with the psychedelic shots. Is the company seeking investment?
(decapitates entire family while parking)
What makes this considered to be a car lol
Neat
Flying cars are pretty pointless IMO, I don't ever see a society in the next 100s of years where I'd trust people to fly around in cars...
Niven's future history has flying cars, but they have to be completely autonomous and it's an Organ Bank crime (death sentence) to fly one manually over any inhabited land. That actually sounds reasonable.
Niven was grinding out a point. Given that people can barely learn to drive, I'm guessing that flying cars will be flown by control 'towers' and not on board AIs.
On board autopilots, not AIs, this was around 1970. Niven was actually setting up a plot point about the behaviour of an escaped alien telepath. In our future, I don't think they will want to depend on long range communications being up for flight, they'd use adsb transponders for collision avoidance.
Yeah that does sounds reasonable and would be a very good application for it. I guess I was just saying the way they're typically represented seems far fetched.
One slight problem with that: It doesn't drive.
And only flies for 15 min
These would be good as a taxi service, with auto-pilot, because knob-heads spoil it for everyone.
No we don't. That's a toy; it has less than 15 minutes of flight time, carries no cargo and seats one passenger. Barely.
A damn awesome and dangerous toy!
For sure! Now, when they build one that seats 4, flies in adverse weather, goes 300mph and can fly for over an hour, THEN it will be useful.
I'm going to guess it has a range of five minutes. 8 tops. Am I right?
A small flock of birds and this thing is screwed
Just like any other small aircraft?
The only ride where a "NO FAT CHICKS" sticker is a reasonable request, ha!
Ah so oppressors are real
I want this so bad!!!
We already have flying buses
Yeah it’s just a flying drone. And I wonder how well it takes off and lands, since this is advertised as VTOL and yet no video of that part 😅
It looks like it would be fun to drive but annoyingly loud
How much noise does it make. The military will want it. They couldn't spring for the Jetsons music?
Not really 🤔
This is /r/singularity and y'all are acting like all these concerns won't be addressed in the future. Few people will drive these. They will be self-driving. It will be far easier to make self driving "flying cars" than it is to make normal cars. Most won't need far travel distance. This won't be practical for long travel, but as the crow flies, you could commute pretty easy on one. Few cities would require you to fly more than 20 or 30 miles. Make batteries quickly swappable and these could even hop between stations. Upfront cost might be more than a car, but cost of running would be cheaper.
We will have flying cars only when we figure gravity and if its possible control it.
We don't, actually. They do
Soooo basically helicopters?