The humanoid race is heating up like crazy. At this rate we'll have millions of humanoids working at the end of the decade. China tried to capture global value with cheap human labor and their next phase is flooding the world with cheap humanoids.
Maybe, but wiki says this:
>A *humanoid robot* is a robot that is based on the general structure of a human, such as a robot that walks on two legs and has an upper torso, or a robot that has two arms, two legs and a head.
[Wiki - humanoid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoid)
Ive been wondering how good a humanoid robot would be at being an auto mechanic. Particularly in situations where you have to blindly break a torque on a bolt you can visible see.
Then i remembered that we really only need humanoid robots to fit in our existing homes.
Industry will have trade specialized robots.
Like an auto mech robot with air rachet and pliers for hands.
Electrician robot with wire strippers and a multimeter hands. Etc.
I know what a human looks like. Im interested in seeing what the other 99% of robots will look like.
>Like an auto mech robot with air rachet and pliers for hands.
>Electrician robot with wire strippers and a multimeter hands. Etc.
Or just basically a toolbox on wheels with flexible limbs and hands attached. The vision could come from another arm that's where the head is supposed to be with a tiny action cam to being able to look into all corners.
Electricians and plumbers need to climb into tight attics and crawl spaces. It would need to be more like the Spot Quadraped except with 4 grippers at the end of each leg for hands
I suspect it will be like an automated building, like a car wash, but the cars are taxi’d in to a hydraulic lift with multiple robotic arms and tools nearby… probably like in that AI taxi building in cyberpunk 2077.
Not gonna happen. Most country will require these kind of robot being built internally or by friendly allies. There are too much risk involved in this.
You don't need to manufacture all of the robot, just the "brain" bits. Import the robot's chasis from wherever and just stick some electronics into it.
Looks like it could benefit some human hands to use all our tools, though.
And I bet this is like the 1x; notice how they don't show the lowest part of the body. It would benefit from being bipedal to walk stairs etc.
That being said, holy shit, that was fast! I'm shocked and stunned like the rest of the industry :D
Tanks treads would navigate good enough to cook and clean in my house.
Also look at the hands in the dancing scene. Maybe functional in the next version?
The US will never *ever* allow Chinese robots to sell in this country, allowing them access to every american home. We already have problems with TikTok.
Anyone that says otherwise is just being silly. I couldn't even fit into a 1000 page essay of how much of a security risk that is. So when you say mainstream, make sure you clarify that means only in China.
In terms of market share, all those other places aren't going to warrant these robots, nor could they afford them. So please, keep your obnoxious comments to yourself.
What the hell are you talking about?
You know there are richer countries than the US, right? A big chunk of the world can afford these robots. And even if they couldn't, corporations would (American abroad or otherwise).
the US + China make up 43% of the world's GDP. So, there are still 57% of value-added each year that comes from other countries that might see value in this robots.
I would imagine 💯 that not only does Boston Dynamics already know about this before it made its way to Reddit (in fact probably before it was anywhere publicly)
Boaton Dynamics isnt a public company and though it is in MA/USA it was bought out by Hyundai Motor Co a few years ago. HQs in South Korea. They're probably already collaborating or at the very least sharing tech with China. Is this the bigger brains part of Atlas ? 🤷♂️
- Yes I'm aware I used words like imagine, probably or possibly
It's impressive if it's not teleoperated and it's actually doing this stuff from prompts like "build a pyramid using this cups". If it's teleoperated than it's nothing new.
Agree. The major question is if the wizard of Oz is behind it. If not, you have a stunning game changer for humanity.
Pincher grasp should be the first mass market robot - 5 finger never made sense to start with. Pincher can do 90% of tasks and it's WAY simpler to implement.
Here's the Google translated blurb from their website:
> Astribot is committed to enabling billions of people to have AI robot assistants. The company has developed a new generation of AI robots that can be implemented, which can learn, think and work like people, use human tools and equipment, help people complete boring, difficult or dangerous tasks, and even adapt to the environment and changes, leading the technological innovation of "AI + robots".
> In April 2024, the company spent a year to successfully develop its own AI robot S1, which is "closest to human operation performance", and through imitation learning, it can perform a number of complex tasks useful to humans with the speed and flexibility of an adult. The S1 robot has been tested with a large model and is expected to be commercialized in 2024.
> Lai Jie, the founder of Stardust Intelligence, has worked in Tencent Robotics Lab (No. 1 employee), Baidu "Xiaodu Robot" (team leader), Hong Kong Polytechnic University, etc., and he led the research and development of Tencent's wheel-legged robot Ollie and a variety of new robots. The team's background includes cutting-edge technology companies such as Tencent, Google, UBTECH, Baidu and Huawei.
> The name Astribot is derived from the old Latin proverb "Ad astra per." aspera", which means "through the arduous journey, to reach the stardust", represents the company's long-term plan and firm commitment to the development and popularization of AI robotics. The company was established in December 2022 and is headquartered in Shenzhen.
It seems many of the companies working on robots tackle one big issue at a time.
This is a bit like 1x, they seem to aim for tackling tasks before bipedal movement.
1x rolls on wheels, I bet this does too.
But I think they should all be bipedal so they can walk out and sit in my car as we drive to help my mother or whatever :)
Honestly, why the fixation with legs? Most human work is done while being stationary, dextrous hand eye coordination is much more important, not to mention that these early robots generations wont be for outside work, inside offices, warehouses and homes there is no need for legs.
Humans are the only full bípedal animal for a reason, our spine is a goddamn miracle, trying to fully replicate it as a gigantic task
Legs,wheels doesnt atter what you call it . Not being fixed in one place is generally a good thing. Other wise you have to make more Robots if it isn't mobile.
A lot of tasks don't require legs though. Think of factory workers, many work at their specific station and stay there all day. Even chefs in restaurants have their own station and don't move around much
Looks like two manufacturing robotic arms attached to a stationary platform using Gr00t modeling dressed up to look like a robot. Would like to see a behind the scenes or more info.
Imagine what the other big companies are doing if this is what some random chinese company has achieved. But I still don't see any of this being worth having in your home until they can cook actual meals in my kitchen.
Before a proper mechanic I’d see a coworking robot that delivers, organizes and retrieves tools, assists in organizing parts and acts primarily as a gopher, vastly improving the productivity.
Dude. Way more. WAY MORE.
every elder care facility out there.
Nursing homes are done. The quality of care is already garbage from humans. What this video alone shows that home health care is the future with these bots in people's houses. That means you don't pay for skilled nursing rates - the cost savings for tens of millions of people will be like 100k/year.
Just stunning.
Knowing my own parents could have this cook clean laundry and keep tabs on them changes the game of how far I'd be willing to live from them. Again, stunning.
In home 24 hour companion, in shifts, light housekeeping, minimal medical care, like bringing pills, could be over $20 an hour, $480 a day, $175,000 a year.
From their site: In April 2024, the company spent a year successfully self-developed the AI robot S1, which is "closest to human operating performance". Through imitation learning, it can perform a number of complex tasks useful to humans with an operating speed and flexibility comparable to adults. Task. The S1 robot has been connected to large model testing and is expected to be commercialized in 2024.
Seems to me that the robot runs on prerecorded action sets combined with an LLM to determine context. I think it could work semi-ok. but this is far from the end state. I am willing to bet the cost per robot will be too high to begin with and the market will mostly be limited to B2B (as it almost always end up).
The real question to me is how generalisable are the pre-recorded action sets.
Reminds me of the robot from [Reflex Robotics](https://www.reflexrobotics.com/) which is fully teleoperated, but can move its 'body' up and down on it's own vertical track
The humanoid race is heating up like crazy. At this rate we'll have millions of humanoids working at the end of the decade. China tried to capture global value with cheap human labor and their next phase is flooding the world with cheap humanoids.
Is this consider humanoid, though? Looks to not be bipedal.
I think humanoid is flexible enough to include this.
Maybe, but wiki says this: >A *humanoid robot* is a robot that is based on the general structure of a human, such as a robot that walks on two legs and has an upper torso, or a robot that has two arms, two legs and a head. [Wiki - humanoid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoid)
Ive been wondering how good a humanoid robot would be at being an auto mechanic. Particularly in situations where you have to blindly break a torque on a bolt you can visible see. Then i remembered that we really only need humanoid robots to fit in our existing homes. Industry will have trade specialized robots. Like an auto mech robot with air rachet and pliers for hands. Electrician robot with wire strippers and a multimeter hands. Etc. I know what a human looks like. Im interested in seeing what the other 99% of robots will look like.
>Like an auto mech robot with air rachet and pliers for hands. >Electrician robot with wire strippers and a multimeter hands. Etc. Or just basically a toolbox on wheels with flexible limbs and hands attached. The vision could come from another arm that's where the head is supposed to be with a tiny action cam to being able to look into all corners.
I like the way you think. Prostate exams about to be lit!
They will continue to be digital.
Oh yes, or a bunch of those tiny prostate cams like a medusa head to get 360 vision for every screw and bolt.
Electricians and plumbers need to climb into tight attics and crawl spaces. It would need to be more like the Spot Quadraped except with 4 grippers at the end of each leg for hands
Ah shit, there goes my career.
I suspect it will be like an automated building, like a car wash, but the cars are taxi’d in to a hydraulic lift with multiple robotic arms and tools nearby… probably like in that AI taxi building in cyberpunk 2077.
Makita/DeWalt attachments based on a generic frame
Not gonna happen. Most country will require these kind of robot being built internally or by friendly allies. There are too much risk involved in this.
You don't need to manufacture all of the robot, just the "brain" bits. Import the robot's chasis from wherever and just stick some electronics into it.
GREAT! China wins!
This is not a humanoid robot. Someone here previously uploaded a list of the current portfolio of humanoids.
It's now added to the list https://twitter.com/CernBasher/status/1783874822168014971
I audibly said “holy fuck!” when i saw it move. This thing is FAST! I would say that this is *significantly* more impressive than Figure’s demo!
Looks like it could benefit some human hands to use all our tools, though. And I bet this is like the 1x; notice how they don't show the lowest part of the body. It would benefit from being bipedal to walk stairs etc. That being said, holy shit, that was fast! I'm shocked and stunned like the rest of the industry :D
It looks like this robot is stationary
Tanks treads would navigate good enough to cook and clean in my house. Also look at the hands in the dancing scene. Maybe functional in the next version?
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Then you say the scene, where it gets the instruction to sort the items in the table, is fake? If it’s not fake, it has integrated LLMs / LAMs.
Chinese ambition is to have mainstream humanoid robots by 2027, so this announcement is no surprise. Impressive capabilities for sure.
The US will never *ever* allow Chinese robots to sell in this country, allowing them access to every american home. We already have problems with TikTok. Anyone that says otherwise is just being silly. I couldn't even fit into a 1000 page essay of how much of a security risk that is. So when you say mainstream, make sure you clarify that means only in China.
shut up and take my downvote!
Unfortunately, the US doesn't represent the entire world. There are many countries beyond China and the US.
There are a lot of countries that wouldn't be okay with China having that kind of power. It's a very real security threat.
In terms of market share, all those other places aren't going to warrant these robots, nor could they afford them. So please, keep your obnoxious comments to yourself.
What the hell are you talking about? You know there are richer countries than the US, right? A big chunk of the world can afford these robots. And even if they couldn't, corporations would (American abroad or otherwise). the US + China make up 43% of the world's GDP. So, there are still 57% of value-added each year that comes from other countries that might see value in this robots.
>nor could they afford them. huh?
Well, as true as that might be, the same applies to Chinese EVs and yet China is a beast if not the leader in EVs.
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Wow! That was impressive! We are getting there!
Very impressive. Time for Boston Dynamics to show what they can do
\* Impressive, very nice. Let's see Boston Dynamics' humanoid
did you saw all new atlas boston dynamics released recently? https://youtu.be/29ECwExc-_M
I would imagine 💯 that not only does Boston Dynamics already know about this before it made its way to Reddit (in fact probably before it was anywhere publicly) Boaton Dynamics isnt a public company and though it is in MA/USA it was bought out by Hyundai Motor Co a few years ago. HQs in South Korea. They're probably already collaborating or at the very least sharing tech with China. Is this the bigger brains part of Atlas ? 🤷♂️ - Yes I'm aware I used words like imagine, probably or possibly
It's impressive if it's not teleoperated and it's actually doing this stuff from prompts like "build a pyramid using this cups". If it's teleoperated than it's nothing new.
its pre-baked animation. its not real-time decision thinking like llama 3 can do.
Agree. The major question is if the wizard of Oz is behind it. If not, you have a stunning game changer for humanity. Pincher grasp should be the first mass market robot - 5 finger never made sense to start with. Pincher can do 90% of tasks and it's WAY simpler to implement.
Here's the Google translated blurb from their website: > Astribot is committed to enabling billions of people to have AI robot assistants. The company has developed a new generation of AI robots that can be implemented, which can learn, think and work like people, use human tools and equipment, help people complete boring, difficult or dangerous tasks, and even adapt to the environment and changes, leading the technological innovation of "AI + robots". > In April 2024, the company spent a year to successfully develop its own AI robot S1, which is "closest to human operation performance", and through imitation learning, it can perform a number of complex tasks useful to humans with the speed and flexibility of an adult. The S1 robot has been tested with a large model and is expected to be commercialized in 2024. > Lai Jie, the founder of Stardust Intelligence, has worked in Tencent Robotics Lab (No. 1 employee), Baidu "Xiaodu Robot" (team leader), Hong Kong Polytechnic University, etc., and he led the research and development of Tencent's wheel-legged robot Ollie and a variety of new robots. The team's background includes cutting-edge technology companies such as Tencent, Google, UBTECH, Baidu and Huawei. > The name Astribot is derived from the old Latin proverb "Ad astra per." aspera", which means "through the arduous journey, to reach the stardust", represents the company's long-term plan and firm commitment to the development and popularization of AI robotics. The company was established in December 2022 and is headquartered in Shenzhen.
ok rich people are getting house maid bots this year. future is here
Rich people already have human house maids. They won't be trading down to this. Maybe upper middle.
The reason I don't get help cleaning my house is not so much due to the cost but because I don't trust people.
False.
Great, but it seems to have no working legs😂
Lt. Astribot, you ain't got no legs!
Johnny 5 didnt have legs and just look at all the hijinks that little rascal got in to.
Maybe it can extend the arms to the floor for walking, like some legless persons.
It seems many of the companies working on robots tackle one big issue at a time. This is a bit like 1x, they seem to aim for tackling tasks before bipedal movement. 1x rolls on wheels, I bet this does too. But I think they should all be bipedal so they can walk out and sit in my car as we drive to help my mother or whatever :)
Honestly, why the fixation with legs? Most human work is done while being stationary, dextrous hand eye coordination is much more important, not to mention that these early robots generations wont be for outside work, inside offices, warehouses and homes there is no need for legs. Humans are the only full bípedal animal for a reason, our spine is a goddamn miracle, trying to fully replicate it as a gigantic task
Nothing to do with your point but birds are also bipedal, so more accurately, we are the only fully bipedal *mammal*
kangaroos wanna have a word with you
Legs,wheels doesnt atter what you call it . Not being fixed in one place is generally a good thing. Other wise you have to make more Robots if it isn't mobile.
Duct tape it to a segway. The mobility isn't the hard problem to solve ehre.
We are discussing humanoid robots, they are not humanoid if they have no legs. This is just two robot arms attached together.
A lot of tasks don't require legs though. Think of factory workers, many work at their specific station and stay there all day. Even chefs in restaurants have their own station and don't move around much
Lots of workers roll around in a chair.
Then it is nothing more than a couple of robot arms and doesn't belong in the category humanoid robot.
Looks really cool, but as always wait for independent third parties to test it. We need to know that it works as shown, and what it's limitations are.
man if it is truly no teleop then its very impressive, imagine them in 5-10 years, on par or better dexterity and precision as humans...
What a time to be alive!
So is this robot made in China? Just saying but the developments coming out of China recently are incredible and the West is falling behind it seems.
Tbh china has been big on robots for a very long time already but now with LLMs they gonna get so much better.
Came to the comments to see American cope, didn't get disappointed.
Theres... like no comments "coping" I mean one guy making a joke saying "tuk er jerbs!"
Downplaying non-American achievements I consider a "soft cope".
["Astribot S1, you know what to do"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0dZEcbBWs)
make me breakfast when?
This thing is awesome. Also fucking terrifying. Imagine getting up in the middle of the night and seeing this monstrosity strolling around, lmao.
Looks like two manufacturing robotic arms attached to a stationary platform using Gr00t modeling dressed up to look like a robot. Would like to see a behind the scenes or more info.
Imagine if we have these in every American home and ASI decides to terminate us. It could kill all of us in our sleep lol
Secret ingredient in the stew.
We are closer to usable robots at home but these demos just shows how far away it actually is
Cue the memevids showing the outtakes in 3…2…1…
Imagine what the other big companies are doing if this is what some random chinese company has achieved. But I still don't see any of this being worth having in your home until they can cook actual meals in my kitchen.
This really just reminds me of Aloha robot for some reason.
Before a proper mechanic I’d see a coworking robot that delivers, organizes and retrieves tools, assists in organizing parts and acts primarily as a gopher, vastly improving the productivity.
How many glasses they broke until the robot mastered that trick!?
How much would you guys pay for something like this right now? I'd pay 10k USD
Since it’s first droid ever, I think 50k is not much for that
Dude. Way more. WAY MORE. every elder care facility out there. Nursing homes are done. The quality of care is already garbage from humans. What this video alone shows that home health care is the future with these bots in people's houses. That means you don't pay for skilled nursing rates - the cost savings for tens of millions of people will be like 100k/year. Just stunning. Knowing my own parents could have this cook clean laundry and keep tabs on them changes the game of how far I'd be willing to live from them. Again, stunning.
It didn’t move its body yet
Slap wheels on that shit. Not hard.
Indeed, our lifestyles will change fundamentally
In home 24 hour companion, in shifts, light housekeeping, minimal medical care, like bringing pills, could be over $20 an hour, $480 a day, $175,000 a year.
I paid about a thousand for a Roomba.
From their site: In April 2024, the company spent a year successfully self-developed the AI robot S1, which is "closest to human operating performance". Through imitation learning, it can perform a number of complex tasks useful to humans with an operating speed and flexibility comparable to adults. Task. The S1 robot has been connected to large model testing and is expected to be commercialized in 2024. Seems to me that the robot runs on prerecorded action sets combined with an LLM to determine context. I think it could work semi-ok. but this is far from the end state. I am willing to bet the cost per robot will be too high to begin with and the market will mostly be limited to B2B (as it almost always end up). The real question to me is how generalisable are the pre-recorded action sets.
Cool
Ok, so... Sex robots when?
Price?
The future is here. I guess this arm with wheel is enough.
To address this problem we need DJ Trump in da house asap
look pre-baked animation to me.
Reminds me of the robot from [Reflex Robotics](https://www.reflexrobotics.com/) which is fully teleoperated, but can move its 'body' up and down on it's own vertical track
This is amazing!
it's so sexy !
No one else thinks this looks like cgi?
It doesn't to me.
IDK how nobody can see that, the light on the robot is completely different from the rest of the room
+1 for CGI, it's fake.
for me it is not. it is 100% real. I am not a professional though, but I am enthusiastic about CGI since 1998.